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Is it me, or can you always tell when school is out for the holidays?
Ah, well. I'll wait a few weeks for the artful trolls to return.
Since the first requirement of tragedy is hubris in the face of the gods, and there's little chance that your favorite uncle is both a mail carrier *and* a follower of the old Roman ways
I would like to gracefully bow my head and stand in awe of you. You are officially the only Slashdotter more sarcastic and thick with archaic knowledge than myself. I salute you, sir.
Marvin Berry: [on the phone, as Marty plays "Johnny B. Goode"] Chuck! Chuck! It's Marvin - your cousin, Marvin BERRY. You know that new sound you're looking for? Well, listen to this! [holds the receiver out]
Your first computer had DOS 5.0? And a HARD DRIVE?
Surely I can't be that old. So you're telling me that "DOS 3.3 with DOS TOOLS" means nothing to you? First incarnation of DOS SHELL? Using EDLIN to change your AT string to make your damn 2400 baud modem connect to the local BBS so you could download porn all night long?
But I bet it ran DeskMate like nobody's business, didn't it?
I remember keeping a journal in whatever the word processing program in DeskMate was. Printing up banners and such with another one of the programs. Having to switch disks to load up the calendar app.
The DAYS, jack!
Commodore Vic 20
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Coding up adventure games out of my "101 GW-BASIC Adventure Games" (or whatever it was called) whiled away quite a few hours. Had a cartridge slot, and I remember wishing to high heaven that I had the external tape drive for it.
10 PRINT "I AM THE GREATEST! "; 20 GOTO 10
At least I think ';' is the "no hard return" character in GW-BASIC.
Ahhhh, memories.
Things got more interesting when I stepped up to the high power Tandy 1000 from Radio Shack (YEAH, baby!). I still remember upgrading the RAM from 256K to 640K. I thought I was the MAN!
5 1/4" floppy drive. No hard drive. Playing The Bard's Tale I, II, and III (Mangar's Mind Blade RULES ALL), Space Quest I-III, King's Quest I, a handful of Zorks, countless others. All by swapping those 5 1/4" floppies to and fro at several points during the game.
Funboy: Jesus Christ! Eric Draven: Jesus Christ? Stop me if you heard this one: Jesus Christ walks into a hotel. (Fun Boy shoots him) Ow! He hands the innkeeper three nails, and he asks... (Fun Boy shoots him again) Funboy: Don't you ever fuckin' die? Eric Draven: Can you put me up for the night?
Macs have been the native platform of artists and designers doing serious image creation/manipulation, video editing, and music composition for a long time. OS X just continues that tradition, but makes it simple for the end-user to also get into how powerful a multimedia machine the Mac is with tools such as iMovie, etc. And of course, on the other end, you've got thesetwo.
So, to answer your question, ramping up speed on the G5 chips is not only good for the whole marketing "Mine is bigger" approach, but there is also real value to Mac users, from casual to hard core.
They're not talking about sorting by thread, which has indeed been existant in several clients for years. Nor are we talking about USENET.
Imagine a web forum (much like the one you're looking at now). Take a look at the front page, you see topics and short descriptions. Click a topic, and you get user postings (sorted however you like).
Now let's take a step back. I send an e-mail, subject "Party at Greg's house!" to a group of individuals, or perhaps several lists, or even a combination. Replies abound, either to me, or to the whole group. Now, with (for example) Mutt, these messages would be sorted by thread, so we have a good grasp on which message is IN_REPLY_TO which, and all of them sorted under the original topic.
Back to our web forum. Imagine all those e-mails and that same threading structure being seamlessly integrated into a dynamically updating web forum. I reply to an e-mail in the topic (like replying to a/. post) and not only do the people I replied to get a copy in their INBOX, but they can view my reply and all the other relevant e-mails on the topic through the web forum. Users can choose to either contribute via e-mail, or directly through the web forum.
I see something like this being very attractive to corporate users. Make the forum part of the Intranet, and everyone (or a select few) can easily participate in conversations without having to dig through a ton of past e-mails. This would be excellent for people off-site, who could access the Intranet via VPN or what have you and keep abreast of forums that they're subscribed to (read: e-mails that they've been on the To: line for) quickly and easily.
It is a good idea given the implementation that they're talking about. Not a brand new idea, of course, but it is an interesting evolution of a mixture of old ideas.
And let me stop you before you go nattering on about how it doesn't matter how much money it made, it was still a flopped and it sucked and I hated it and people that liked it are dumb. That's an opinion, and you're entitled to it. The movie was a financial success, if not a critical one, and my opinion has always been that critical review is flaky and insubstantial anyway. Critics hated the Wizard of Oz when it came out.
Kind of like/., where we hate everything.:)
Bottom line, I liked it, a lot of people didn't which is understandable. I'll be buying the boxed set when it comes out and keeping 'GLMatrix' as my screensaver and sporting my "I took the red pill" shirt proudly.
had started the revolution of the Matrix from the inside, instead of from the outside.
Converting people on the inside, gaining an army of followers battling the system.
Which is exactly what Smith did. Makes you think about the convo between Neo and the Oracle:
Neo: What is he? Oracle: He's you.
I think once all three are out, and can be watched back to back, there will be a better appreciation for the series. I recently re-watched Revolutions (in IMAX! Woo hoo!) and picked up on a lot of things that I missed the first time. Same goes with repeat viewings of Reloaded.
I think people just wanted a slam-bang action movie with guns and martial arts and cool effects (like the first). Though, knowing the/. crowd, had it been that all we'd be talking about is how 'trite' it was and how they 'basically remade the first movie' and blah blah blah.
That's definitely true. I read the similar or the same article. I'm not suggesting an MBA as a magic bullet, I'm suggesting it as something that goes well with real skills. The problem with the Harvard MBA in his Mom's basement is he went to Harvard for pre-business, got a degree in Economics or what have you, went to the B-School, got his MBA, and....nothing. I don't think the value is in the MBA, the value is what it can add to already present skills.
For example, a learned geek with a CS degree, MBA, and 5-10 years of solid tech experience would be truly formidable, and could even look into starting his own business.
Objective: To not work for rude overbearing cocksuckers with such an inflated sense of their own self-worth that they will dismiss a resume out of hand if the objective doesn't "interest" them.
Better?
FYI: My objective is generalized because I'm applying to anything that I'm even remotely qualified for. Pigeonholing myself is a good way to get my resume tossed. Even if it were more specific, it wouldn't be the kind of "power adjective" laden nonsense that you suggested.
When labor went away, blue collar workers were forced to retrain in other fields, many just retired. They pushed thier children to get degrees in engineering, law, and medicine. Now the engineering jobs will be gone.
Who will pay the taxes to support those millions who will retire in the next few years? Not the engineers and laborers, they live in China and India.
What industry would you tell a young adult to get into, if all of them are destined to either be outsourced, or priced out of existence?
Without the brain the body dies.
Hear motherfucking hear. I've been trying to make this point all day. Welcome to my friends list, I hope you enjoy your stay.
Reasonable point, but I thought that an individual (read, someone who is unemployed) can't apply for clearance on their own, but instead has to be sponsored or have someone apply on his behalf or something like that.
I'm suggesting that the more clueful people we have in a managerial/executive role, the better off the rest of us will be. A lot of the problem (as you said) is we have schmucks with English degrees that learn everything they know about tech from Business Week and Forbes who are in charge of the hiring and firing. I know it's dirty pool for a real dyed-in-the-wool geek to ever put himself in that situation, but think of the long-term benefits if some of us did!
I would just love to see in the next few years a legion of IT Directors (or whatever the titles are) being able to present clear and concise arguments to the E-Board about the value of open source products, duplicating functionality while improving security, man-hours lost on securing inherently insecure products, etc. Brings a tear to my eye just thinking about it.
OK, I just took a look at your previous posts and realized that you're maybe about 15, and probably hear your daddy complaining about Clinton over the breakfast table or some similar shit, so I'll cut the argument short.
The total number of H1-Bs issued being roughly equivalent to the total number of techs working today doesn't have a whole hell of a lot to do with anything, unless your assumption is that all tech workers currently employed are H1-Bs, which is obviously untrue. Not to mention that H1-B visas have a 2-year expiration date last I checked, which means that (barring extension) all the visas issued during Clinton's campaign have expired.
But let's not make this a Clinton thing, because I know Bill O'Reilly and the gang can go on all day about what fantastic time we're living in and how underhanded and deceitful the Clinton administration was, and how we'll be much better off with another 4 years under Bush etc. etc. etc. Let's also not make it a money thing, because my point was never that I feel I should be paid outrageous amount of money for the services that I offer. The current tech layoffs are not about outrageous employee salaries, they are about the fact that you can offshore your department to India for pennies on the dollar of what you're paying your employees. Even if we were all capable of doing our thing for $20,000 a year, we can't compete with India and China in that respect.
From a neo-conservative dickhead standpoint, this seems like a good idea: slash the bottom line, get myself a nice fat bonus, the hell with all the workers that I'm laying off as long as we get the job done. I realize that this type of person doesn't have a lot of respect for the middle class, but I think in 5-10 years we'll see that the middle class is the strength of this country. Tuition is skyrocketing, yet recent graduates can't get jobs. Middle class parents who can barely afford to send their kid to school in the first place are having to make hard decisions; the house or college. If there's no real value in that degree, this decision becomes simpler. Middle class bankruptcies are at record numbers, the number of citizens that can even call themselves middle class is rapidly dwindling, but the Dow is up given that companies are starting to see the profit margin from firing everyone.
Hopefully when you're old enough to vote, you'll have more perspective on things.
I voted for Clinton, in tech, and I'm unemployed. I also have a decent grasp on the facts. The H1-B program was started to meet a need in the United States. We had companies with massive tech needs and not enough workers to fill the positions (I know, sounds crazy today, doesn't it?).
However, given that these numbers (1,282,000 computer programmers and software engineers) are from the year two thousand, before the massive layoffs of the past few years really started happening,
What happened is, companies started tightening their belts in the face of our brand new shitty economy. It occured to a lot of them, "Hey...why don't we just hire a bunch of H1-Bs instead of American programmers?". This was possible because at the time the number of H1-B visas issued was still at dot-com levels. The law states that a company can only hire an H1-B to fill a slot if the compaqny is incapable of otherwise filling that position. So corporations got creative, posting jobs with ridiculous requirements for a paltry salary. Leave it out there for the required length of time, go to the Department of Labor crying "We can't get anyone for this job!", and bring on the H1-Bs.
Nowadays, an even cheaper alternative to going through all that is just to ship the whole of your IT operations to India, no muss no fuss. Which brings us to today.
I know it's certain peoples reflex to breath heavy and blame Clinton for everything, but you need to step back from your Fox News rhetoric for a sec and examine the facts.
Modded funny, but an MBA from a decent, fairly reputable Business School WILL take you places, regardless of your skillset. Plenty of people who don't even need them get them. We as techies turn up our nose at management, but one thing you'll notice is that, while we're all getting laid off left and right and our wages whittled down to nothing, managers and executive salaries are going up.
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Is it me, or can you always tell when school is out for the holidays?
Ah, well. I'll wait a few weeks for the artful trolls to return.
Unless there's another use for this that perhaps I'm unaware of.
Oh come on. 45 minutes? Color video? Hand held? What are you gonna watch, skiing training videos?
Heh. Dean Director, is that you?
Since the first requirement of tragedy is hubris in the face of the gods, and there's little chance that your favorite uncle is both a mail carrier *and* a follower of the old Roman ways
I would like to gracefully bow my head and stand in awe of you. You are officially the only Slashdotter more sarcastic and thick with archaic knowledge than myself. I salute you, sir.
Chuck Berry's little brother.
I thought that was Marvin?
Marvin Berry: [on the phone, as Marty plays "Johnny B. Goode"] Chuck! Chuck! It's Marvin - your cousin, Marvin BERRY. You know that new sound you're looking for? Well, listen to this!
[holds the receiver out]
Your first computer had DOS 5.0? And a HARD DRIVE?
Surely I can't be that old. So you're telling me that "DOS 3.3 with DOS TOOLS" means nothing to you? First incarnation of DOS SHELL? Using EDLIN to change your AT string to make your damn 2400 baud modem connect to the local BBS so you could download porn all night long?
But I bet it ran DeskMate like nobody's business, didn't it?
I remember keeping a journal in whatever the word processing program in DeskMate was. Printing up banners and such with another one of the programs. Having to switch disks to load up the calendar app.
The DAYS, jack!
Coding up adventure games out of my "101 GW-BASIC Adventure Games" (or whatever it was called) whiled away quite a few hours. Had a cartridge slot, and I remember wishing to high heaven that I had the external tape drive for it.
10 PRINT "I AM THE GREATEST! ";
20 GOTO 10
At least I think ';' is the "no hard return" character in GW-BASIC.
Ahhhh, memories.
Things got more interesting when I stepped up to the high power Tandy 1000 from Radio Shack (YEAH, baby!). I still remember upgrading the RAM from 256K to 640K. I thought I was the MAN!
5 1/4" floppy drive. No hard drive. Playing The Bard's Tale I, II, and III (Mangar's Mind Blade RULES ALL), Space Quest I-III, King's Quest I, a handful of Zorks, countless others. All by swapping those 5 1/4" floppies to and fro at several points during the game.
Those were the DAYS, baby! The DAYS!
Top Dollar: Quick impression for you: Caw! Caw! Bang! Fuck, I'm dead!
Here's to you, Mr. Coward, for making me laugh my ass off in a nice, quiet, pre-holiday cube farm.
And yes, the Crow does indeed rock.
Funboy: Jesus Christ!
Eric Draven: Jesus Christ? Stop me if you heard this one: Jesus Christ walks into a hotel. (Fun Boy shoots him) Ow! He hands the innkeeper three nails, and he asks... (Fun Boy shoots him again)
Funboy: Don't you ever fuckin' die?
Eric Draven: Can you put me up for the night?
Most of the people encoding audio and video
Macs have been the native platform of artists and designers doing serious image creation/manipulation, video editing, and music composition for a long time. OS X just continues that tradition, but makes it simple for the end-user to also get into how powerful a multimedia machine the Mac is with tools such as iMovie, etc. And of course, on the other end, you've got these two.
So, to answer your question, ramping up speed on the G5 chips is not only good for the whole marketing "Mine is bigger" approach, but there is also real value to Mac users, from casual to hard core.
Asimov does not make any mention of black characters in I Robot. Why does film-whore-house need to include a black character?
So if race isn't specified, the casting should default to white?
Here you go, troll. Here's a cookie. Do you like cookies?
They're not talking about sorting by thread, which has indeed been existant in several clients for years. Nor are we talking about USENET.
/. post) and not only do the people I replied to get a copy in their INBOX, but they can view my reply and all the other relevant e-mails on the topic through the web forum. Users can choose to either contribute via e-mail, or directly through the web forum.
Imagine a web forum (much like the one you're looking at now). Take a look at the front page, you see topics and short descriptions. Click a topic, and you get user postings (sorted however you like).
Now let's take a step back. I send an e-mail, subject "Party at Greg's house!" to a group of individuals, or perhaps several lists, or even a combination. Replies abound, either to me, or to the whole group. Now, with (for example) Mutt, these messages would be sorted by thread, so we have a good grasp on which message is IN_REPLY_TO which, and all of them sorted under the original topic.
Back to our web forum. Imagine all those e-mails and that same threading structure being seamlessly integrated into a dynamically updating web forum. I reply to an e-mail in the topic (like replying to a
I see something like this being very attractive to corporate users. Make the forum part of the Intranet, and everyone (or a select few) can easily participate in conversations without having to dig through a ton of past e-mails. This would be excellent for people off-site, who could access the Intranet via VPN or what have you and keep abreast of forums that they're subscribed to (read: e-mails that they've been on the To: line for) quickly and easily.
It is a good idea given the implementation that they're talking about. Not a brand new idea, of course, but it is an interesting evolution of a mixture of old ideas.
It's because it flopped. It was horrible, why would they spend money advertising something that failed so horribly.
/., where we hate everything. :)
Yeah, if only I could have such a failure.
Reloaded
Revolutions
And let me stop you before you go nattering on about how it doesn't matter how much money it made, it was still a flopped and it sucked and I hated it and people that liked it are dumb. That's an opinion, and you're entitled to it. The movie was a financial success, if not a critical one, and my opinion has always been that critical review is flaky and insubstantial anyway. Critics hated the Wizard of Oz when it came out.
Kind of like
Bottom line, I liked it, a lot of people didn't which is understandable. I'll be buying the boxed set when it comes out and keeping 'GLMatrix' as my screensaver and sporting my "I took the red pill" shirt proudly.
I'm so glad I'm not the only /.-er to think Wu-Tang whenever I hear Chessboxing.
The game of chess, is like a swordfight
You must think first, before you move
had started the revolution of the Matrix from the inside, instead of from the outside.
/. crowd, had it been that all we'd be talking about is how 'trite' it was and how they 'basically remade the first movie' and blah blah blah.
Converting people on the inside, gaining an army of followers battling the system.
Which is exactly what Smith did. Makes you think about the convo between Neo and the Oracle:
Neo: What is he?
Oracle: He's you.
I think once all three are out, and can be watched back to back, there will be a better appreciation for the series. I recently re-watched Revolutions (in IMAX! Woo hoo!) and picked up on a lot of things that I missed the first time. Same goes with repeat viewings of Reloaded.
I think people just wanted a slam-bang action movie with guns and martial arts and cool effects (like the first). Though, knowing the
That's definitely true. I read the similar or the same article. I'm not suggesting an MBA as a magic bullet, I'm suggesting it as something that goes well with real skills. The problem with the Harvard MBA in his Mom's basement is he went to Harvard for pre-business, got a degree in Economics or what have you, went to the B-School, got his MBA, and....nothing. I don't think the value is in the MBA, the value is what it can add to already present skills.
For example, a learned geek with a CS degree, MBA, and 5-10 years of solid tech experience would be truly formidable, and could even look into starting his own business.
I was going to talk to you about a job until
OK, how about I change it to:
Objective: To not work for rude overbearing cocksuckers with such an inflated sense of their own self-worth that they will dismiss a resume out of hand if the objective doesn't "interest" them.
Better?
FYI: My objective is generalized because I'm applying to anything that I'm even remotely qualified for. Pigeonholing myself is a good way to get my resume tossed. Even if it were more specific, it wouldn't be the kind of "power adjective" laden nonsense that you suggested.
Thanks for the critique, though.
When labor went away, blue collar workers were forced to retrain in other fields, many just retired. They pushed thier children to get degrees in engineering, law, and medicine. Now the engineering jobs will be gone.
Who will pay the taxes to support those millions who will retire in the next few years? Not the engineers and laborers, they live in China and India.
What industry would you tell a young adult to get into, if all of them are destined to either be outsourced, or priced out of existence?
Without the brain the body dies.
Hear motherfucking hear. I've been trying to make this point all day. Welcome to my friends list, I hope you enjoy your stay.
Reasonable point, but I thought that an individual (read, someone who is unemployed) can't apply for clearance on their own, but instead has to be sponsored or have someone apply on his behalf or something like that.
Do tell if I'm wrong.
if you're good at your job, get a new one.
Oh well shit, is that all it takes? I've been going about this all wrong!
I'm gonna get a pony too, while I'm out getting things. Anyone else want something?
Just like it did with the textile industry in the late '70s, early '80s.
Or the manufacturing industry.
Or the steel industry.
I'm suggesting that the more clueful people we have in a managerial/executive role, the better off the rest of us will be. A lot of the problem (as you said) is we have schmucks with English degrees that learn everything they know about tech from Business Week and Forbes who are in charge of the hiring and firing. I know it's dirty pool for a real dyed-in-the-wool geek to ever put himself in that situation, but think of the long-term benefits if some of us did!
I would just love to see in the next few years a legion of IT Directors (or whatever the titles are) being able to present clear and concise arguments to the E-Board about the value of open source products, duplicating functionality while improving security, man-hours lost on securing inherently insecure products, etc. Brings a tear to my eye just thinking about it.
OK, I just took a look at your previous posts and realized that you're maybe about 15, and probably hear your daddy complaining about Clinton over the breakfast table or some similar shit, so I'll cut the argument short.
The total number of H1-Bs issued being roughly equivalent to the total number of techs working today doesn't have a whole hell of a lot to do with anything, unless your assumption is that all tech workers currently employed are H1-Bs, which is obviously untrue. Not to mention that H1-B visas have a 2-year expiration date last I checked, which means that (barring extension) all the visas issued during Clinton's campaign have expired.
But let's not make this a Clinton thing, because I know Bill O'Reilly and the gang can go on all day about what fantastic time we're living in and how underhanded and deceitful the Clinton administration was, and how we'll be much better off with another 4 years under Bush etc. etc. etc. Let's also not make it a money thing, because my point was never that I feel I should be paid outrageous amount of money for the services that I offer. The current tech layoffs are not about outrageous employee salaries, they are about the fact that you can offshore your department to India for pennies on the dollar of what you're paying your employees. Even if we were all capable of doing our thing for $20,000 a year, we can't compete with India and China in that respect.
From a neo-conservative dickhead standpoint, this seems like a good idea: slash the bottom line, get myself a nice fat bonus, the hell with all the workers that I'm laying off as long as we get the job done. I realize that this type of person doesn't have a lot of respect for the middle class, but I think in 5-10 years we'll see that the middle class is the strength of this country. Tuition is skyrocketing, yet recent graduates can't get jobs. Middle class parents who can barely afford to send their kid to school in the first place are having to make hard decisions; the house or college. If there's no real value in that degree, this decision becomes simpler. Middle class bankruptcies are at record numbers, the number of citizens that can even call themselves middle class is rapidly dwindling, but the Dow is up given that companies are starting to see the profit margin from firing everyone.
Hopefully when you're old enough to vote, you'll have more perspective on things.
So I looked it up.
I voted for Clinton, in tech, and I'm unemployed. I also have a decent grasp on the facts. The H1-B program was started to meet a need in the United States. We had companies with massive tech needs and not enough workers to fill the positions (I know, sounds crazy today, doesn't it?).
However, given that these numbers (1,282,000 computer programmers and software engineers) are from the year two thousand, before the massive layoffs of the past few years really started happening,
What happened is, companies started tightening their belts in the face of our brand new shitty economy. It occured to a lot of them, "Hey...why don't we just hire a bunch of H1-Bs instead of American programmers?". This was possible because at the time the number of H1-B visas issued was still at dot-com levels. The law states that a company can only hire an H1-B to fill a slot if the compaqny is incapable of otherwise filling that position. So corporations got creative, posting jobs with ridiculous requirements for a paltry salary. Leave it out there for the required length of time, go to the Department of Labor crying "We can't get anyone for this job!", and bring on the H1-Bs.
Nowadays, an even cheaper alternative to going through all that is just to ship the whole of your IT operations to India, no muss no fuss. Which brings us to today.
I know it's certain peoples reflex to breath heavy and blame Clinton for everything, but you need to step back from your Fox News rhetoric for a sec and examine the facts.
Modded funny, but an MBA from a decent, fairly reputable Business School WILL take you places, regardless of your skillset. Plenty of people who don't even need them get them. We as techies turn up our nose at management, but one thing you'll notice is that, while we're all getting laid off left and right and our wages whittled down to nothing, managers and executive salaries are going up.