No big deal. Ted's 86 years old. He's independently wealthy. This is just a stage show for the government to have something to feed to the media to quell the questions about complete and utter lack of ethics and the exploitation of loopholes for their own benefit.
Whatever they find on Ted they could just as easily find on 95% of Capitol Hill, from elected officials to appointed positions to chauffers to the FBI/CIA/NSA agents themselves.
We'll hear about Ted's little corner of the conspiracy theory, maybe he'll get sacked out of his office, and then he'll retire to his home, the population will be exhausted from the effort, and the other 95% will continue along their merry way to robbing us all blind.
Don't US Senators have an appreciable amount of immunity from any real criminal prosecution, anyway? I don't know for certain. That's only what I recall from $somewhere. That could be wrong.
Why do we feel this compulsion to take advantage of somebody else's bad luck, when that other entity is a corporation? I think it's because corporations do the same to their employees?
"Oh, your car broke down? So effing what? Get to work or you're fired." "Oh, you have extra bills to pay? Sorry about your luck. There's no room for a salary increase." "Oh, you say you need at least $11/hour to live? Tough crap. We can hire someone at minimum wage."
The bank doesn't deserve to 'eat it' just because they're a bank. "Oh, you're already just skimming your bills? Tough crap. We want to fund a war with Afghanistan. Tack on another $500 billion spending bill."
We don't deserve to "eat it" just because there's no "throw the politicians out!" on the ballot ticket.
Good business or not isn't our government supposed to be protecting the citizens from a conspiratorial monopoly rather than selling them into it? It seems like we'd have to indict everyone on Capitol Hill and stage a revolution to fix this.
That's pretty much exactly what I said. Then I'm happy to agree with you.
If we didn't want greedy warmongering pigs, we wouldn't keep voting for greedy warmongering pigs. We'll just ignore the technicalities of a rigged system which lead to a significant lack of any other candidates.
These people taking advantage of an ATM are morons. With average American household debt what it is, and what it has been for over one hundred years, I'd think they're just trying to make ends meet.
Banks are bigger than you. But it's a conspiracy theory to think that they've rigged the economy to maintain perpetual debt for a majority of the population?
It's only proper to take money from people who are smaller and weaker. Well, sounds like we agree that it's quite logical that the banks have rigged the economy (and the election system) in their favor.
Not to point out the obvious or anything, but with average American household debt being what it is, and what it has been for over one hundred years, juggling bills and living paycheck to paycheck is a mathematical fact.
As long as you ignore that rather simple fact, then, yes, you have a point. People should pay their bills before the due date.
What's fascinating to me is why there's a discussion on this at all. People in the USA have no problem taking the cash out of my wallet before returning it, Maybe it's their Federal Government setting the example.
Seriously, just because you were not the one who hacked the thing, doesn't give you the right to exploit the flow. Can similar logic be applied to an AC who makes around 30 posts at ten minute intervals? Regardless of how you feel about the subject matter of that thread it's pretty obvious that the admins don't care.
How about employers who make direct deposits to your bank account and then, four weeks later, send a collection notice saying,"Ooops. We overpaid you."
Nice try at boxing all of reality into one instance of 4chan and one specific threat.
You've obviously not been reading the news lately--say for, oh, the last ten years. Teachers losing jobs, CEOs admitting to message board trolling, online rumors leading to job terminations...
Yet he endures nothing but hassle and expense from the American officials Such conspiracy theory. This doesn't sound like anyone else I know...
You're just making up excuses to blame someone else for his failures.
Mind you, many of these workers are highly uneducated, often criminal, and usually able to do little more than work as a janitor. I'm highly uneducated, non-criminal, and I still can't get a job... even as a janitor (not that I would want to take it away from those who are much more qualified to be one).
What they should've done was offer to buy some stocks in the German company on the international market and then let his company cut him in on a few priveleged options when he returned home. That's the way international players conduct their money-laundering.
A security researcher should definitely know how to get around such simple rules, don't you think?
The only people in Guantanamo were shooting at Americans after teaching in terrorist training camps. There you go with your pretend version of reality again.
most of these young jerks will mature into perfectly descent human beings It's been my experience that these young jerks will grow up into adult jerks and, as long as their family and social position grants them the money to keep _their_ house and home secure, they'll continue to hound, harass, harangue, and ruin the lives of anyone they can just for "LuLZ". Many of those young jerks who grow up to be adult jerks move into managerial positions, have security clearances, join the military and then receive the default respect and admiration of their fellow citizens. They'll work in HR and decide the salaries for the people they victimize. They'll work in banks and decide whether or not you qualify for a home loan. They'll own new car lots and decide which way to spin your credit report when you want to buy or lease a new vehicle. They'll work in the police department and decide how hard to crack down on you for that speeding ticket. They'll work in the FBI and decide, for themselves, whether or not it's truly ethical to start sifting through the government records concerning the guy down the street whose kids they don't like. It turns into one big invitation for a blanket abuse of authority.
And what does authority do when it's caught making a huge mess of things? "Oh, sorry about that. We'll launch a Congressional inquiry and get back to you in twenty or thirty years when anyone who cares, except you, has forgotten about it."
Well, yes, I agree that we'd all be better off if the very fabric of our society could be woven with a brighter thread of "don't believe everything people tell you". The fact is, though, that our society isn't woven with that very bright color--and the color becomes both dimmer and more subjetive as you look up the ranks of people who have authority. You _might_ be a terrorist? The FBI has an obligation to investigate you. You _might_ be a pedophile? The authorities have an obligation to investigate you? That pr0n you looked at _might_ have contained a 16 year old? Looks like you're a pedophile, but only if they were watching you ahead of time, while the ten thousand other people who downloaded the same video are free and clear. You might be an anarchist? The FBI has an obligation to investigate you. You _might_ be suicidal, especially after all those trolls have been hounding you for so many months (and look! we have the logs to prove it!)? Your employer has an obligation to keep you on a short leash and under a tight watch.
That there are flaws in the authoritarian segments of the society still doesn't excuse the actions of the people who act with deliberate malicious intent.
You _might_ have weapons of mass destruction? Well, "mustard gas" wasn't a weapon of mass destruction when we sold it to you--but it is now--sorry about your luck.
I'm just asking people to be a little bit more honest with themselves about what it is they're actually doing and, until we can get all the wrinkles ironed out of the obviously flawed authoritarian segments (and we know they'll just jump right up to correct their oversights and vest the power they've illegally abused back into the general population straightaway), then maybe we should also begin considering a more productive method of aiding those who did get targetted because the "blame the victim" mentality, while it's fun for someone who's never had to experience such a situation, only leads to bigger problems.
The dynamic that we're looking at is, really, no different than bullying on a first grade playground. The problem is that, on a first grade playground, kids forget and move on to second grade rather quickly. When this sort of thing happens to someone in their twenties or thirties, though, we're talking real impacts.
there are an assload of assholes just waiting to get in a lengthy flamewar with you and then take it to the next level once you've gotten tired of it. I think it's the part about forwarding a daily digest to their boss, their HR department, their family, their friends, and anyone who lives within a 50 mile radius of them that's the problem.
Second, the tool with the MySpace account--it's clear to anyone that has any idea about anything that he simply ended up with a virus/keylogger installed...He simply appears even more foolish for not having even that much of a clue Oh, you didn't read the backside of the story. He knew that there was a keylogger installeda and every time he tried to ask anyone for help with it he'd just get a new swarm of "conspiracy theorist", "paranoid", and insults.
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No big deal. Ted's 86 years old. He's independently wealthy. This is just a stage show for the government to have something to feed to the media to quell the questions about complete and utter lack of ethics and the exploitation of loopholes for their own benefit.
Whatever they find on Ted they could just as easily find on 95% of Capitol Hill, from elected officials to appointed positions to chauffers to the FBI/CIA/NSA agents themselves.
We'll hear about Ted's little corner of the conspiracy theory, maybe he'll get sacked out of his office, and then he'll retire to his home, the population will be exhausted from the effort, and the other 95% will continue along their merry way to robbing us all blind.
Don't US Senators have an appreciable amount of immunity from any real criminal prosecution, anyway? I don't know for certain. That's only what I recall from $somewhere. That could be wrong.
What's the difference between a deadbeat and a rich man?
Best joke of the day. Good one.
"Oh, your car broke down? So effing what? Get to work or you're fired."
"Oh, you have extra bills to pay? Sorry about your luck. There's no room for a salary increase."
"Oh, you say you need at least $11/hour to live? Tough crap. We can hire someone at minimum wage." The bank doesn't deserve to 'eat it' just because they're a bank. "Oh, you're already just skimming your bills? Tough crap. We want to fund a war with Afghanistan. Tack on another $500 billion spending bill."
We don't deserve to "eat it" just because there's no "throw the politicians out!" on the ballot ticket.
Good business or not isn't our government supposed to be protecting the citizens from a conspiratorial monopoly rather than selling them into it? It seems like we'd have to indict everyone on Capitol Hill and stage a revolution to fix this.
Not to point out the obvious or anything, but with average American household debt being what it is, and what it has been for over one hundred years, juggling bills and living paycheck to paycheck is a mathematical fact.
As long as you ignore that rather simple fact, then, yes, you have a point. People should pay their bills before the due date.
Mine only included a clause pertaining to bank or in transit errors: not deliberate deposits by the company.
It's not a conspiracy. That's just good business.
Your contradiction makes even less.
How about employers who make direct deposits to your bank account and then, four weeks later, send a collection notice saying,"Ooops. We overpaid you."
Nice try at boxing all of reality into one instance of 4chan and one specific threat.
You've obviously not been reading the news lately--say for, oh, the last ten years. Teachers losing jobs, CEOs admitting to message board trolling, online rumors leading to job terminations...
You're just making up excuses to blame someone else for his failures. Mind you, many of these workers are highly uneducated, often criminal, and usually able to do little more than work as a janitor. I'm highly uneducated, non-criminal, and I still can't get a job... even as a janitor (not that I would want to take it away from those who are much more qualified to be one).
What they should've done was offer to buy some stocks in the German company on the international market and then let his company cut him in on a few priveleged options when he returned home. That's the way international players conduct their money-laundering.
A security researcher should definitely know how to get around such simple rules, don't you think?
What is that? A conspiracy theory? You know it's all his own fault.
And what does authority do when it's caught making a huge mess of things? "Oh, sorry about that. We'll launch a Congressional inquiry and get back to you in twenty or thirty years when anyone who cares, except you, has forgotten about it."
Well, yes, I agree that we'd all be better off if the very fabric of our society could be woven with a brighter thread of "don't believe everything people tell you". The fact is, though, that our society isn't woven with that very bright color--and the color becomes both dimmer and more subjetive as you look up the ranks of people who have authority. You _might_ be a terrorist? The FBI has an obligation to investigate you. You _might_ be a pedophile? The authorities have an obligation to investigate you? That pr0n you looked at _might_ have contained a 16 year old? Looks like you're a pedophile, but only if they were watching you ahead of time, while the ten thousand other people who downloaded the same video are free and clear. You might be an anarchist? The FBI has an obligation to investigate you. You _might_ be suicidal, especially after all those trolls have been hounding you for so many months (and look! we have the logs to prove it!)? Your employer has an obligation to keep you on a short leash and under a tight watch.
That there are flaws in the authoritarian segments of the society still doesn't excuse the actions of the people who act with deliberate malicious intent.
You _might_ have weapons of mass destruction? Well, "mustard gas" wasn't a weapon of mass destruction when we sold it to you--but it is now--sorry about your luck.
I'm just asking people to be a little bit more honest with themselves about what it is they're actually doing and, until we can get all the wrinkles ironed out of the obviously flawed authoritarian segments (and we know they'll just jump right up to correct their oversights and vest the power they've illegally abused back into the general population straightaway), then maybe we should also begin considering a more productive method of aiding those who did get targetted because the "blame the victim" mentality, while it's fun for someone who's never had to experience such a situation, only leads to bigger problems.
The dynamic that we're looking at is, really, no different than bullying on a first grade playground. The problem is that, on a first grade playground, kids forget and move on to second grade rather quickly. When this sort of thing happens to someone in their twenties or thirties, though, we're talking real impacts.
Tell the truth and be a good American. Americans like bunnies.
Lie and you must be a terrorist. Terrorists kill babies. Baby-killers hate America.
Why do you hate bunnies?
What took you so long?
It was like the joke that never ends.