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AC = Domestic Terrorists?
Miang writes "A video from a recent FOX 11 (Los Angeles) newscast has surfaced on YouTube. In the segment, reporter Phil Shuman investigates so-called "Hacker Gangs" comprised entirely of anonymous users. The segment, which focuses mainly on users at 4chan, 7chan, and 420chan, seems to confuse /b/ raids and motivational poster templates with a genuine threat to the American public. For added FUD, the FOX team inserted an unrelated video of a van blowing up — twice! Presumably, one is intended to equate anonymous posting with domestic terror. The story and video can be found on the local FOX website, so it does not appear to be simply a clever parody." Cringe as you watch this video explain terms like 'LULZ' and show inspirational poster parodies as evidence of the evils of this terrifying "Group".
"so-called 'hacker gangs'"
They're only called that because you just called them that! Jeeez. There are roving gangs of hackers, lurking the backstreets of the 'net looking for sites to spray their graffiti on.
"If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you." - DM
How dare you, Slashdot, call us - Anonymous, a COWARD?!
The fact that it's a Fox affiliate isn't relevant, really. I've seen plenty of stories on local ABC, CBS, or NBC stations that were just as cringe-worthy. Even as computers have become more popular, people who really like (and understand) computers haven't.
Have you been touched by his noodly appendage?
I ... wha ... ha ... za ... fuh?
Either the words don't exist to describe just how stupid these people are, or I'm too stupid to describe how stupid they are.
And the FOX reporters are worse!
I'm serious, you all step back, or i'll blow this place SKY HIGH!
They did it for the LULZ!
.... you don't get any karma. :(
I keep telling myself I'm not the desperate type.
Apparently, the ability to phish myspace passwords from clueless users earns you the title of "Hackers on Steroids" now. OMGWTFHAX!
Legalize recreational marijuana. Seriously.
.... you don't get any karma! =D
It is the same solution that will always work: Make a law forbidding anonymous posts. Make anonymous posting on the internets a felony and not an offense, so that only criminals will be posting anonymously.
Death to all those fanatics!!!! And yes, i will post anonymously.
I actually have some sympathy for the reporters involved in this, because they have no clue what they're getting themselves in to.
Anonymous is what happens when you give people the ability to act without reprecussions, a good portion of the world turns into total a**holes. And they will surely retaliate, for two reasons. The first being the justification that "oh, we're called domestic terrorists, we better at least do something worth that name now".
The second being the justification "Umm, no. You totally misunderstand what we do here. We're just normal internet stupidity. want a sample? How about everyone in your company? We can do a mass raid if you want"
The second already is happening in droves, if you'll notice their forums.
Now, that said, the people i DON'T feel pity for are the "victims".
The male victim, who fails at trying to be anonymous, now has his name, and his story, all over all of the *chans. All he's doing is trying to get revenge because anonymous wouldn't raid his stupid girlfriend and that they told him he was being a moron. He spends most of his time actively trying to spread dirt on the *chans, including warning potential raid targets, making up lies about what raids actually are.
As for the female victim, her story is similarly stupid, but as I do not know the entire thing with all facts for certain, i will refrain from final judgement and spreading rumors.
But for most raid "victims" in general, their main flaw was that they posted too much personal information online, and made a point of either harassing others, who happened to be anonymous, or whining to anonymous for favors.
I am not anonymous, but it pays to know about them.
You never realize how much manually made unmanaged "linked" lists suck, till you have src.link.link.link.link...
I've got nothing, really.
Have you been touched by his noodly appendage?
Two completely different people. Anonymous Coward is a normal Slashdot user who merely has perpetually bad karma. Anonymous is, as the video states, an "Internet hate machine". He is the very personification of the deepest, darkest desires of the Internet. Which, of course, means he spends half of his time masturbating to strange pornography, the other half attacking easily-angered idiots for his personal amusement, and the other other half debating Bush, pedophilia, and quantum mechanics.
Anonymous does not forgive. Anonymous does not forget.
PS. I herd it was those guys over at eBaum's World that did it.
Well, 4chan did let us all read Harry Potter 7 five days early...and the video does equate spoiling popular fantasy books with domestic terrorism...so I guess they are terrorists!
I, for one, welcome our new anonymous overlords!
Legalize recreational marijuana. Seriously.
When lolcats are outlawed, only outlaws will be in ur lolcatz
...but that video was so bullshitty I really want to meet the people who get afraid because of such retarded crap and make them build a church.
lolz! what where Fox news smoking!
Just wait until Bill O'Reilly finds out about tentacle pr0n.
I've tried searching, including that tagline they show on the poster at the end: 'because none of us are as cruel as all of us'. Can't find anything relevant.
I understand that Fox News isn't really news, but isn't some of what they're saying based in reality? Am talking about the basics, like the groups they're talking about existing at all? Could some kind person please fill in those of us who're not up on 1337 h4Xx0r popular culture?
Even if you're an Anonymous Coward, just doing it for 'LULZ' :)
As a fellow Anonymous, I would also like to be part of a /b/ raid. I live for epic LULZ.
/b/ raid is. What are they? How do I get phone numbers so I can call people whiney emo bitches?
Unfortunately, I do not know what a
I need more epic LULZ.
It has come full circle, my friends. Comedy Central replaces news networks with more reliable news and educated viewers (ala Stewart/Colbert), while FOX news replaces Comedy Central with corrupted LOLs.
Errrr, oh shit everyone knows this already. Maybe I should slip back into my coma.
I dont read
I am neither a number or a named individual. Fear my anonymity. f0x 4r3 10s3rs ;)
Jumpstart the tartan drive.
(Not the YouTube posting date, but the creation date). *Sigh*
right here on Slashdot who feel the same way. "I ignore ACs" "I don't respond to ACs" "I mod ACs to -6". I think it's sick. Those people are closed minded so-n-sos. Well, all you ACs out there, I DO respond if the comment is worth responding to. I don't care where it comes from. I derive value from the comment itself, not necessarily the author. Don't let anybody shut you down. Use whatever abilities you have to be heard.
What?
Wow. That's all I can say about that piece. Just wow...
First off, wasn't the Harry Potter spoiler clip in the middle of there taken from the Daily Show? (I could swear that's John Oliver's voice).
Second, the tool with the MySpace account--it's clear to anyone that has any idea about anything that he simply ended up with a virus/keylogger installed. "Anonymous" got his passwords from that and the virus got spread to his friends. Woooooh, that kinda shits been happening on the internet for forever now. He simply appears even more foolish for not having even that much of a clue (hell, my grandparents are aware that there are viruses and nasties out there).
What I find most disturbing about this is that if anyone sends Fox 11 an email/letter/phone call/whatever explaining to them how far off base their piece is, they'll just treat it all as threats that further back up their claim. Truly truly sad....
This guy's the limit!
Lately I've been attending a new 12-Step group, Anonymous Anonymous. It's for recovering domestic terrorists, especially ones who want to be on TV. One of our main rules is never to post anonymously. Oh shi-
I cannot RTFA as there is none to read, well unless this counts:That is all the text available on the story, and I do not have the time to wait 90 minutes for a flash video to download over 28.8 Kbps dialup.
The question reoccurs to me. Is the text based internet dead? It seems everything is posted as video these days, everyone is too lazy to write anything down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p_OuMW4bfE
They clearly missed that one in their report - so much aggression.
As long as they get this kind of press, they'll never get bored. The FOX story is a great recruitment piece.
What?
Seriously, /b/ is so mainstream now, it beggars belief. Here is a Slashdot article that mentions it in passing without so much as stopping to explain the term. This was always going to happen. A group of people focused around memes, with a subset of them bent on spreading these memes to other sites? There is no more perfect recipe for notoriety than that. Rules 1 and 2 have completely failed, just as miserably as they would fail in a real-life fight club (where did those new members come from anyway?).
It's a shame really. For a short while, /b/ was a great little internet phenomenon. Anonymity, with all its baggage, and somehow no lawsuits. Now, though, the old guard is quickly moving on. Anybody who's frequented the site can attest to this.
As for the FOX clip... pure garbage. Most /b/tards call images "pictures", and directories "folders", and get confused between wallpaper images and desktop screenshots. The /i/nvasion people are a little closer to "hacker gangs", but even then, the "hacking" only ever amounts to SYN flooding and MySpace phishing.
Despite my pessimistic tone, I predict that "Anonymous" will continue to grow. As more and more attention is given to these "secret websites", more and more people are clamoring to become "hackers on steroids". This new Anonymous will be larger, with more brute force at his call, but at the same time stupider, and less apt to create entertaining content. And paradoxically, he'll be less anonymous than before. I see threads where a bunch of high-schoolers recognize each other based on posted photos and local memes. They greet each other by name and socialize. On /b/.
They say that raiding /b/ is liking pissing in an ocean of piss. But what if the people doing the raiding aren't pissing? What if they think this is a kickass beach where they can hang out and go for a swim with their friends and not worry about taking a piss while they do? It's not cancer, it's a full-on mutation.
The original article (and YouTube segment) is boring and stupid!
The only thing new in this world is the history that you don't know.[Harry Truman]
What is a /b/ raid? Etc?
Like how about the war drum banging that was done on deceiving many americans to support the war on iraq?
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I believe it was fox national that would pull stuff like using split screens showing one thing, the narrator talking about another thing and a small box showing someone speaking in another language.
It made it appear that it was all related like the non-english speaker was talking about the larger picture being shown while the narrator appeared to be a translator. But none of them were related. And this happen daily in the build up of getting american support behind Bush.
Anyone with half a mind would see thru it, many didn't. Fox tried to make it obvious, as other networks also contributed in less obvious ways. There was even the setting up of what was called the "clear channel network" composed of TV and radio station.
Propoganda!!
Why did they do this?
Anthrax threats.....
I understand the person they tried to blame sued and got more then Richard Jewel did for being publicly accused of the 96 olympic centennial bombing..
No comspiracy needed. just one person with enough clearance at the US military base in teh US that the anthrax came from.
Even an idiot would realize how the politics of the country would play off the anthrax story.
It was an intentional threat against the media to get them to play the war drums in support of US attacking Iraq.
Bim Laden and Saddam are not the same person, regardless of what most supporting the war believe.
There is more that has not been told together, but it has been told and the information is findable on the internet.
911 was the result of extreamist using a genuinely real event Americans were seriously guilty of, as an excuse to do what they did, and the excuse was real and verifiable enough that it certainly helped the extreamist to promote a following of fools to help them.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2704stoc
That's a lot of money that is not going to just appear out of no where and vanish into nowhere.
What other financial things happened in the 90's?
The dotcom boom and bust... money came from somewhere to finance business with out a product or service... easy come easy go... for those who were able to get out in time.
For those who didn't get out in time... enron, worldcom and the likes, hiding their losses from the gamble.
Can Americans say they are sorry? Credit card interest rate dropping to 0% was an attempt. As the world bank offered to make a loan to south east asia countries like indonesia [80% muslim by CIA reports] where the trillion dollar bet drained financials badly, but with an interest rate.... that offer fell flat.....
The information is available, but no-one has yet put it together and communicated it to the masses. And whats his name "ferinheight 911" only provided distraction from the simple occums razor of "follow the money"...
Asking someone if they trust the news media is like asking them if they are stupid.
Networks use news as a vehicle to sell advertising space to. On a slow news day they will take an any hill and make it sound like a mountain to attract viewers. See how bad the ants are to home owners....
Sen. Ted Stevens addresses the Congress about the dangers of homeless people sleeping in the internet tubes.
You expected fair and balanced reporting from Fox News? Ever watch Fox News before? They're the first news service in history to qualify in the dramatic series category for the Emmy Awards.
Undefined terms in Slashdot summaries are indicative of poor editorial quality, not necessarily widespread familiarity. I have no idea what "/b/" is, let alone the rest of /terms/ used throughout your post. You seem to know what you're talking about; care to provide some background for us?
I dont know who that "Former Anonymous" they had on there was. But he is now the greatest Troll in internet history.
Congratulations, sir. You have my undying admiration for having the balls to do a RL troll the likes of which I have never seen before.
I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
How is it that after all these years, there are still people who don't realize that nothing that happens on the internet is real? That hot chick you've been chatting with? There's a 95% chance she is a dude and a 5% chance that she is fat, ugly and crazy. That dude who told you he would slit your whole family's throats and shit down their esophaguses because you like original Star Trek better than the Next Generation? He's 12 years old. Porn sites that say their girls are having sex for the first time? They're lying. That e-mail you got from a guy in Nigeria who wants to give you money? You're not going to get it.
ad infinitum.
...for fun or profit should be taken out and shot.
"I've seven different passwords they've got them all so far", David
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Have you considered using a 'computer' that isn't so easily compromised by 'computer hackers'. Your girlfriend left you? boo hoo hoo
"victims are asking why is this all happening to me"
Because you are using MS Bisto
"this hackers who wants us to hide his identity"
Not much of a 'hacker' if they have his home phone number and address already
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I'm rolling thunder, on your myspace page
I'm messin it up like a hurricane
My LULZ is flashing, across the web
You switched to Linux but I switched to deb
I won't leave no pictures, won't spare no drives
Nobody's usin, firewalls right
I got my 0x07'z I'm gonna get LOLZ
I'm gonna get ya, MSN or AIM & get ya
LOLZ 0x07'z
LOLZ 0x07'z, you got me pinging
LOLZ 0x07'z, your latency's high
LOLZ 0x07'z
Wanna fight ? Bend over, stick your head up your ass, and fight for air.
FOX News
We prey upon luddites.
Shit lads, they're on to us! Quick, everyone start using our real names so they can't track us!
http://internethatemachine.org/ exists already :p
As we've had to see for the past seven+ years, there is absolutely NOTHING which conservatives don't live in terror of.
It's little wonder groups like Al Qaeda are outmaneuvering Bush and the other conservatives: the Bushites are so fearful, they only know what they can see from their "undisclosed location". Conservative = coward.
Cowardservatives!
According to /b/ (which usually means you should treat it with a pinch of salt) the guy being interviewed complaining about things is called Alex Wuori, a former visitor to the site who ended up with a grudge against it and contacted the news station. They probably got all their "facts" from him explaining the sensationalist outlook.
perfect encapsulation; preserve for posterity.
I IZ HACKER TERORIZT!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!
/. !!!!!!
B GIVING ME ALL UR WOMANS!!!!1!!!!!!111
BY MY C!AL!S!!!!!!!!111111111!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!
U CANOT TRASE ME!!!!!11!!!!11111111! I IZ IN UR OPEN WEP POSTING 2
So it isn't so!!!
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." --Paul Atreides, Dune
I'll wait for the John Stewart commentary on the meth-induced violence of lesbian biker hackers with AIDS who worship Satan and piss on flags while chanting "Hillary, Hillary".
FOX "news" is for fools. Old story. But I sometimes wonder whether they are happy to be the outrageous scapegoat of the left because it takes the heat off all the untrue crap on the other networks' "news". Seriously, the other networks are just puppies, kitties, drug commercials and 10 minutes of government propaganda too. Don't take my word for it. Count it up some day. That's where the real story is. FOX is beneath the contempt of any thinking person and only serves as fodder for dark comedy.
Not to mention that this is wll known theory worked out by Gabe and Tycho; Normal Person + Anonymity + Audience == Total fuckwad.
Nothing new here people, move on.
Returned Peace Corps IT Volunteer
lulz
There's a 7chan? God help us all...
"A video from a recent FOX 11 (Los Angeles)," *closes browser window*
*plays the Apogee theme song music*
When a friend linked me to the video, I swore it was a joke, a gag, a parody. I watched it a few more times as the horror set in: Old people are stupid.
There are over 36 million lines of COBOL code in the world, and they are all raping children.
but this was a bit over the top. I am glad that it wasn't on the Fox national news (foxnews.com) and not even on the Fox Los Angeles news (myfoxla.com). Correct me if I am wrong but the "MyFox Investigates" is just a tabloid-esque sensationalist wing of FoxLA that produces fun, outrageous shows just for ratings. Sort of like talk radio. At least that is the impression I get by looking at the other "scoops" on the Fox 11 Investigates Page. For example, see Beauty Disasters where people get bad haircuts.
Not that I am denying that the American mainstream news continues to blur the line between "news" and "tabloid", it hasn't gone quite this far yet... I hope.
with football!
We're all the same person anyway. I'm with me!
HAHAHA what out anonymous is going to get you..
Does fox not know that anonymous has been a name people have used since the inception of the internet?
To the education internet freaks this is funny as hell.
*headpalm*
This guy got his house burnt down because he call some guy a 'nerd'.
8 057
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=341
Is that the same as, if he's down, kick him... if he doesn't move, kick him harder?
I suppose it's just un-American to think that we don't have a right to mob a citizen for fun and entertainment.
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Back in college, there was a Direct Connect server on campus. A friend of mine ran it, and I was known to be involved with it. I think we had about 3TB shared, among 200 users online at any given time.
Anywho, a reporter for the campus rag decided to do a story on it. She first called the kid who ran it, and scheduled an interview. She then called me, at which time I told her that this reporting would be a bad idea, and that she won't be getting information easily. She got a little upset from that. When she interviewed my buddy, she ended up crying. He's a nice guy, but apparantly she was extremely upset that people didn't just give her information.
Later on Sunday, we had a kind of technology club meeting, and like 4 new guys were there (15 or so semi-regulars as well). We did not discuss p2p at the meeting, but after, we talked about this as of yet unpublished article. I referred to the reporter as a dumb broad, at which time one of the new guys yelled "THAT'S MY GIRLFRIEND!" I thought to myself, aww, crap, here we go. I talked him down after 20 minutes or so, but I swear, half the dweebs there thought we were going to brawl and bolted. It was kind of an anti-climatic ending really.
This is the same rag of a paper that printed this from the IT departement chair after some faculty computers were comprimised:
According to (IT guy), the hackers were members of the Internet Chat Relay (IRC) network, a group of people who are out to "make mischief and manipulate other people machines," (IT guy) said.
"Primarily they do it to steal personal information or cause mischief such as attacking other computers or deleting files," (IT guy) said.
thats what it is. ah, and harmful to their paid administrative counterparts.
Read radical news here
Anyone with me?
ping www.myfoxla.com -t
Lets show them what slashdotted really means!
Yea I was managing to hold it together until that one, then I just about pissed my pants laughing
Miang: stop breaking rules 1 & 2, you moron. Or are you really Alex in disguise?
There is only one way to make an Image board attack an individual: You tried to fool around with them. I bet this FOX-Guy who was browsing the 420chan /i/-board that was visible on one of their shots, is a -channer himself.
He tried to use /i/ to attack his neighbor, co-worker or whatever, and they told him ANONYMOUS IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL ARMY. So he went >:(, looked for some ASPLODIN' Partyvans and made this article.
YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG, etc.
EOF
I really couldn't believe he said "The truly epic LULZ..." I could have soiled myself with laughter.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
HAY /., IS THIS THE NEW /b/?
In before 'no', etc.
I believe I stand corrected. While ED is best taken with a salt mine, the closer things are to irl lulz, the more the facts/article goes up.
/b/tard decides the image boards are his personal raiding army, becomes a target and has a fit about it? Then, instead of just dissapearing and letting the hoard find a new target of the week, he tries to sabotage them; resulting in an escalation.
Please correct me if I am wrong... So a
Either way, Fox 11 is a bunch of jag offs for even trying to get involved. Did they think they were breaking the story of the century, or was it just a slow news day?
I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
[Poster: frustrated because not enough people understand computers] Idiot: Sounds like somebody couldn't get a date for the prom!
She got invitations but they were all from idiots.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
Did anyone bother to vote in their related poll? I found the current standings hillarious! :D
Have you ever been hacked, phished, or been a victim of computer crime?
Yes. 1.78%
No. 6.35%
Victim? I'll leave it at that. 91.87%
Total number of votes: 13968
I lost my sig.
Desu Desu Desu
Whoever modded it troll doesn't know a joke when it sits on his face and beats him with a whip.
I'm actually surprised this took a day to get on /., and as far as the "anaonymous" reign of terror goes, as far as they would go is maybe sending a couple hundred thousand empty boxes to your address through the USPS.
... I for one thank Fox for it's completely unbiased newcasts!
I personally don't think that in any way they deserve being called an "Internet Hate Machine".
Of course, I personally think that which Anonymous is was exagerrated by their undercover information (whose name isn't hard to find).
As an amateur psychologist and observer of human nature I'd guess anyone who thinks "lulz" is cool isn't a very sophisticated thinker; this bunch are probably just alienated kids.
Alienated? Is that the nice word for asshole? The world is full of them. Most grow out of it.
You don't have to go very far to find paid assholes. M$, telcos, the RIAA are all engaged in some very rough and ugly astroturfing and cracking.
They people raising the alarm over ACs are those who want an exclusive power to harass. Broadcasters, telcoms and software companies are used to having these powers and backing them up with the entire legal system. They want to exert and extend that centralized control over the internet and anonymity is incompatible with that. Eliminating our privacy and freedom to hamper assholes won't limit those who control the switches. They will continue to harass those who annoy them. When the rest of us have lost our freedom and privacy, the assholes will act with impunity.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
Arg... I could not get past the first 30 seconds of watching that crap. It was like watching those propaganda clips from the movie "Starship Troopers", only worse, and these people were serious! You truely know the doom of our society is on the horizon when you see things as idiotic as this "news" brodcast. I can only hope (a doomed hope I know, but still a hope) that a vast majority of the people who saw this were at least half as discusted as I was.
Normal Person + Anonymity + Audience == Total fuckwad.
There are several counter examples of this law, but it is generally applicable to normal young men.
Just remember that someone will always have anonymity. People who run telco have phone anonymity. People who broadcast have broadcast anonymity. People who run newspapers have print anonymity. Restrictions on publication in any of these forms of communications simply gives the total fuckwad a larger audience. As anyone can verify by watching "classic" broadcast TV, the fuckwads don't even have to have talent when they have power.
The greater fuckwad theory is:
Total Fuckwad + Larger Audience = Bigger Fuckwad
Freedom minimizes annoyance because it limits the relative power of abusive people.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
They did it to scare people and equate words with real violence.
I'm sure they had a good laugh and had a good high five. That's the way bullies always act.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
This is a good day to post anonymously...
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Is this an American joke? Please enlighten me.
If that sort of report came from my country - UK - I would read it as sarcasm, but I generally find sarcasm uncommon in anything from the USA.
Of course, if this is for real, it could just be showing how unutterably weird the US media is!
I'll see your Constitution and raise you a Queen.
I hope FOX got enough LULZ out of their asploding mini-van
Rules 1 and 2, newfags.
Not a Twitter sockpuppet... but I wish I was.
You know why Anonymous hates you all? Look no further than Slashdot, you call us all cowards!
That you host on your site!
The Anon posters shown in the vid: 1 2
And the "We're discussing penises, do you want to join?" image.
I respond to your sigs
Damn Anonymous Coward!!!
Truth, Just Us, And Hatred For All Mankind!
FOX GET !
Cue suggestions to track people by name and number online, to prevent this kind of terrorism. The police state and crackdown on piracy fits lovingly well together.
Yes, that's a bit on the paranoid side. I'm bored.
I lost my sig.
Fox News (Bill O'Reilley specifically) did a segment on "gay gangs" which are roaming the streets of Washington, D.C. with "pink pistols". Even had an "expert detective" describe this activity. Too bad the expert turned out to be a rent-a-cop from a fast food restaurants. Oh, and even better, the whole story was debunked by several non-journalistic organizations. Funny how outside agencies have to do the reporting for Fox News to get the story right, isn't it?
...you can pass panic legislation like South Korea's legislative response to outrage over internet bullying. Just start with investigative reports like the above.
Your mind is clear / The things that you fear / Will fade with how much you / Believe what you hear
Weer in teh interwebs, haxing teh news corp!
barack to the future?
"The piece from Fox was stupid as hell. It was ill informed and hideously overblown. At the same time, it bothers me that you're so quick to blame the victim"
.. (Score:2, Redundant)
Have you considered using a 'computer' that isn't so easily compromised by 'computer hackers'.
"That's as ridiculous as asking a burglary victim why they didn't put in a deadbolt. Whether they made the safest choice doesn't matter, whoever compromised their "computer" broke the law"
No, whoever sold me the 'computer' should be prosecuted. And apparently this 'hacker' did decide to investigate them. Now the're after his momma, for shame. What kind of a locksmith is it who can't secure his own front door.
"If people phish your password and use it to access an account of yours, they are breaking the law"
That's the thing about crooks, they don't obey the law. What responsibility do the people that designed such a phishing friendly computer bare. Which would be more effective, a twenty year felony charge or a secure desktop that can't be compromised by clicking on a URL or opening an e-mail attachment.
what a load of BS
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let's bring on the lulz:
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The anonymous anon:
See: Alex Wuori.
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That hot chick you've been chatting with? There's a 95% chance she is a dude and a 5% chance that she is fat, ugly and crazy.
That's usually the case. But twice I've met incredibly beautiful, hot women on Craiglist who turned out to be real. They were both really wierd, though. Especially the tattooed fetish model, who is striking but too self-destructive.
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Just because you can mod me down, doesn't mean you're right. Shoes for industry!
What took you so long?
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The only thing worse than the local fox affiliate's dramatization of the story, is the attempted anti-fox spin in the /. blurb. I mean, yeah it's exaggerated and poorly done, but it's just a news story by a local fox affiliate. Who cares?
The only thing I know is that I don't know anything; and I'm not even sure about that.
Tell the truth and be a good American. Americans like bunnies.
Lie and you must be a terrorist. Terrorists kill babies. Baby-killers hate America.
Why do you hate bunnies?
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Fox News' FTP Password Anyone?
Upward mobility is a slippery slope - the higher you climb the more you show your ass.
You like it. It'd be so much easier if you would sign up for an account so that I could monitor your every post.
Hustlers exist solely through charity. I see their scams, lies, and deceit: I'm too charitable to outright shoot them.
I read this on 4chan before, and I just assumed that this was fake. A clever parody, as the summary so eloquently calls it. Are you guys really sure this is really the real thing? I mean, it's so incredibly unrealistic. Are you sure that Fox site is genuinely sanctioned and everything? Can't this be an employee prank? There I was yesterday, asking wether all those people reacting to the YouTube video were delusional, or "playing it out", and it turns out to be real? Did this air? But how? I simply just don't understand this.
Well, no. You have it wrong there.
Anonymity is a prime ingredient for a functioning democracy. Take camera surveillance. People are going to be scared to do anything out of the ordinary, for fear of being flagged as a peculiar guy (and thus much more likely to be caught doing anything illegal, even the mundane stuff like throwing something on the ground instead of in the trashcan). This fear prevents anyone from questioning the status quo, and thus a "democracy" results in everyone agreeing with the current government.
B.
Every experiment which ends in a big bang is a good experiment.
even one of my favorite companies has resorted to similar tactics.
A single person saying things is nothing at all compared to what big dumb companies do through PR firms and other proxies. "Normal advertising" where supposedly "normal" companies like American Express, Home Depot etc, hire crackers to install push adserver viruses and trojans, is just the tip of the iceburg. Pretending to be popular support of a thing you are trying to sell (Zune) or badmouth (OSX) is bad enough. More disgusting efforts seek legislation that's bad for everyone:
The web is changing the way public opinion works. It's giving companies like Whole Foods a voice they never had before and it's taking away the power of broadcasters. The broadcasters seek to "harness" the internet and will use their money to keep as much of their power over public opinion as they can. It's a doomed effort because they can't hire enough PR people to do the job.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
Way to connect two completely unrelated things, there. If Slashdot had a "No AC" button, you'd have a point, but then you'd just sign up for more junk accounts and use your other ones to mod yourself up.
Hustlers exist solely through charity. I see their scams, lies, and deceit: I'm too charitable to outright shoot them.
...that it wasn't /b/ that blew up the van and spoiled Harry Potter.
It was Ebaum's.
I agree it's not the same; however, the CEO is not the same as "a single person", either. Sure, a CEO is, technically, a single person, but it is definitely much more embarrassing when that single person is the CEO.
Ben Hocking
Need a professional organizer?
look everybody, it's a post by twitter that isn't a tirade against Microsoft! sane people of Slashdot, rejoice!
the 8 ball of the masses. Religion may be the opiate, but Fox News combines the cocaine of emotionally charged "reports" with the mind numbing heroin of constant bombardment, and self-inducing insistence that the user continue using. I quit watching them when the 14 year old stole a Cessna and ran it into a Florida building, and they used a graphic of a 747 as seen from just below the belly, like it was about to fall on you, in a fit of 9/11 fear mongering.
Recall the Daily Show commercial when Jon Stewart claims that 30% of people get their news from The Daily Show and then yells "DON'T DO THAT. WE MAKE IT UP."? I want to yell back "WE KNOW THAT. SO DO THEY. YOURS IS BETTER."
"I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid." -- Bishop 341-B
Look up the victims car on the Internet, hit Delete ... and BOOM! That's how good hackers they are. I know because I've seen on the net.
Perhaps these dolts that spend their waking hours glued to a MySpace page should find something better to do with their time... C'mon kids... read a book, do your homework, maybe go for a walk OUTSIDE (and leave your damn cell phone TURNED OFF). You'll be happier, healthier and wiser.... and you'll probably smell better too... and oh yeah... you'll be far less of a target for other dipshits with nothing better to do with their lives. (If they run out of computer dumbshits to pick on, maybe they'll go get a job or something). Being "connected" is one thing... living your life for on-line popularity is another. So wake up! MySpace is for 'tards that can't handle life in the real world... get a life! (and when you do, use it!)
--posted anonymously to the bad hacker terrorists won't call my mom and get me kicked out of the basement--
That video is priceless.
Look out internets! The anonymizer is coming for YOU.
Taking Fox News seriously is kinda like getting married in a D&D game - it's kinda novel, but what good will it do you in real life?
brian botkiller "Condensing fact from the vapor of nuance" - Neal Stephenson, Snow Crash
This is total crap. All Fox does is make up shit to scare people into neo-conservative thinking When a couple o' guys who were up to no good, Started makin' trouble in my neighbourhood, I got in one little fight and my mom got scared, She said 'You're movin with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air!'
I whistled for a cab and when i came near, The license plate said 'Fresh', And had dice in the mirror, If anything i could say that this cab was rare, But I thought 'Nah, forget it - Yo, home to Bel-Air!'
I pulled up to the house at bout seven or eight, I yelled to the cabbie 'Yo home, smell ya later!' I looked at my kingdom, I was finally there! To sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-Air!
You're too late. We're everywhere.
Wasn't `Anonymous' also responsible for the Good Times Virus?
I don't believe: I accept or reject.
Before all our lols are corrupted!!!1
Welcome our new anonymous, steroid ridden, hacker, terrorist overlords.
im not kidding anything or anyone that does not go with the flow is flagged a Terrorists. and they seem to apply it to anything totaly out of context so often and its sickining. i dont agree with what your saying yep im a Terrorists.
This reminds me of the "expose" CNN did where they used the now-defunct jewsdidwtc.com (which was an obvious GNAA parody site) to illustrate growing antisemitism on the web.
I guess the morals of these stories are: if you trust the major news media, you're being brainwashed and propagandized.
As long as it happens to you and not to me, I find it quite funny. People are assholes like that.
Fox must still be upset from last week when their FTP password was discovered.
Apparently, Shuman didn't do his homework on the people that he interviewed or who he was writing about nor did he understand the volatility of how "anonymous" would react to suck hateful bias.
Leave it to a Republican News Anchor to once again put egg on his face and the company that he keeps.
The October Terror Threat against NFL teams was yet another example of the fearmongering, as it was linked to a Wisconsin grocery cleark. The petty behavior of one news reporter from last year stated "Fortunately the Ravens aren't playing this week." Heaven forbid something terrible happen to Ray Lewis DURING A BYE-WEEK!
This news story has gone completely out of control.
"Shuman has kicked the beehive and now the bees are swarming all over the place.
The Rapture is NOT an exit strategy.
Did anyone else notice the blurred appearance of David's ex-girlfriend? I think "she" may be anonymous!
"You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." - Bob Dylan
Fox11 just did what Anonymous couldn't. Advertise for their cause.
People are joining the *chans like crazy wanting to be a part of the Anonymous Army.
Thank you, Fox News. They're newfags, but they'll do. They'll do quite well.
"No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson
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-- @rjamestaylor on Ello
Reminds me of an episode of The Office (US), when Michael asks for a volunteer to select the name of a drug, and then tell to the workers a tragic story (not necessarily related to drugs).
I have found the source. I gave an incorrect figure. 81% of Fox News Channel employees contribute to Democrats, not 80%. See http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?ar ticle=192, second bullet. Presumably, this figure is also present in Freedomnomics: Why the Free Market Works and Other Half-Baked Theories Don't, by John Lott.
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Fantastic... I love the internet.
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You people laugh all you want...I've been in hiding now for six months, after receiving credible threats from the terrorist group "LOLCATS"
They need to work some on blowing up vans though, their producer, sucks. Replace him/her maybe? Their Technical adviser needs to grow up, and then go to school. Fiction maybe? That would explain it.
Like the lefty rhetoric over the last seven years has been about love and happiness. Example: Twice, Charles Rangel (D) has introduced measures to reinstate the draft. What human impulse does that play to, exactly? And the hyperbolic predictions of an Orwellian state, Bush not stepping down in January 2009, and the like, what does that say about what motivates leftists?
No, no. Anonymous is actually *two* people. You and the one other guy that's posting, you know?
(Also, given the '~~~~', do you hit some kind of internet trifecta for being on Slashdot, 4chan *and* Wikipedia?)
Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
Do you have a real source? Right wing hatemongers don't count.
"We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
But I'm guessing for you, it's hatemongers all the way down, eh?
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Software patents delenda est.
Oh, pulling it out of somebody else's ass? Ann Coulter? Really? Wow, you should have said you pulled it out of your own ass.
Also, you're making a distinctly different claim than she claims the book made.
-- "Even employees of Fox News, which is widely regarded as a conservative channel, donate 81 percent of their contributions to Democrats."
81% of contributions are made to Democrats is the claim. 81% of employees donate to Democrats is a massively different claim (really MASSIVE). In fact, I would be astounded if 50% of run of the mill employees donated to anybody. Also, note that the claim is "81 percent of their contributions" - beyond the obvious problem the book has of lumping most charity organizations as "democrats" even though they are just non-profit and work toward the common good. There's the problem that Democrats are usually poorer and get by with large numbers of small donations. If you looked at my donation history you would find roughly 4 donations toward "Democrats" -- if you think that it is anywhere close to one $5000 donation, you're kidding yourself. The vast majority of donations are grassroots little 25 and 50 dollar donations.
And again, they aren't the ones making the decisions. They are the working stiffs, the camera men and wardrobe people... they are the nuts and bolts who work to put food on their tables. They aren't the ones who supply Fox News with their trademark bias. And number of donations is a completely stupid metric.
Lies, damned lies, statistics and this idiotic bullshit.
It is no longer uncommon to be uncommon.
Dont you people get it!?! this "Anonymous Gang" are nothing more than complete basement dwellers with little to no self-esteem what so ever,who probably get their ass kicked by nearly every person they have ever came across, who have so much time on their hands that they harass innocent people to cover-up their own (severe IMO)in-securities To the fat kid that got dumbed: If your not smart enough to know that your not logging in to an official myspace site you deserve to be hacked. And if that stupid bitch dumped you over that, she wasnt worth trying to fuck in the first place.
No, I just read some of her books. I had to stop after a couple pages - the bile was just too much. Fact is, given her reputation for distortion and outright lies, she has zero credibility.
"We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
OMG, OMG,now I'm a terrorist.
LOL
Conservative and religious fears have been documented in the past. Jack up the fear factor of bunnies enough, and you can get a conservative to vote for banning all rodents any day.
Rudd-O - http://rudd-o.com/
This is so stupid.
I want my Cowboyneal
Fox News = Brasseye.
The trouble being, Brasseye is filed under "Satire" and Fox calls itself "News"...
I mod down anyone who says "I will be modded down for this", regardless of the rest of their comment
I have to say I am incredibly disappointed in this post and some of the responses. This group is sending death threats and threatening to blow up stadiums, if that is not the definition of 'terrorism' then I cannot imagine what is. I am suspicious of the motives of those who would defend a group like this.
The U.S. bill of rights was an anonymous document at some point.
And you're an ignorant moron.
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Where I live now, is far enough away from "the big city" (and all you lame government interventionists, conservative or "liberal" alike).
Here, kids are taught that a BB gun is merely what they use until they can handle the recoil on a REAL gun. Adults use BB guns to teach kids to be responsible with tools... after all, whether you're using a nailgun to nail boards to a wall, or shoot squirrels, that tool remains only that, a tool. Guns are no different, and neither are computers.
If that idiot with the BB gun pointed a "GUN" at any house here, and someone noticed, he'd likely be shot, and the sheriff would say "if he survives, would you like to press charges?"
After all, those taught responsibility with tools, weapons, computers, etc, know that you don't point a barrel or the aggressive/business end of something towards someone who refuses your offer. Whether that offer is to point a knife or gun at them (attack their life) or demanding their wallets (attacking their property) or a molotov cocktail at their house (attacking their home/property).
This is lacking in "big cities" because there, everyone expects everyone else to "play by the rules", and the only deterrent is a police department, which, as a friend of mine on the force once said "you'll be lucky if they show up on time 1% of the time, and then actually CATCH the bad guy".
Week after I left my last big city residence, there were nearly two dozen reported unsolved murders (only 3 with guns, an irony for those of you "for gun control", the rest with bare hands, knives, screw drivers, and household appliances). Nevermind the rest that were "solved".
This story, like everything I've listed above is simply "lack of responsibility". This will only get worse, not better, until the young and adult jackasses receive equal reply to their offenses. Waiting for the cops only guarantees you become a victim of the criminal. The government will NEVER solve this problem, because it is of their own making, just like every other "criminal activity". Lawmkers keep passing laws, and cops keep giving tickets, but that has yet to stop speeding. Cameras didn't do it, tagging people like cattle won't do it. Nothing will... because nothing ever has.
Only "real" crimes are aggression against the freedom, life and property of an individual. If someone, whatever their excuse (whether Crip gangbanger or Gestapo/Komitet thug) attempts to take your life, your liberty of action/thought or your property (including your body, if you see your life and limb as your own property instead of someone else's property), you have every right in creation/evolution (as your preference may be) to defend those things with equal or greater force to that of the aggressor.
If that was the lesson taught in school instead of "don't fight, let the teachers/authorities solve it" then we wouldn't be a nation of cowards, indifferent than any other nation of cowards on this globe, always begging someone else to "handle" or "manage" or "solve" what we collectively call, "our problems".
Until the mindset changes, the idiots will continue to believe that we're supposed to "call the cops and wait". Tell that to a woman about to be, or already being raped by someone, whether friend or foe regardless... If the animals of our society know that Joe and Betty and Jane are all willing to deal with aggression immediately and decisively, we won't have "threats" anymore. Threats are treated just like attacks.
Which brings me back to this story. The lady on fox (Mr. Chubby "Lives life on Myspace"'s mom) decides to get what? An electronic security system and a surveillance tripwire? To stop who? Supposed masters of electronic deception?? Isn't that an oxymoronic "defense"? If instead she had locked and loaded a 45, learned to use it ahead of time and carried it everywhere, she would know that its another situation like everything else... bad guy has to learn that his actions have consequences, worse ones than a stint at the prison book club
" What luck for rulers that men do not think" - Adolf Hitler
You should familiarize yourself a little with US history. The founders of this nation themselves believed that anonymity was essential to a functioning democracy and engaged anonymously and pseudonymously in public debate.
Of course, there are many people who think like you, who think that anonymity and similar rights are merely a haven for criminals and enemies of the state. They therefore gave up those rights in order to enjoy additional protection from the state, only to find themselves soon living under fascist and totalitarian governments.
If you're going to treat people that disagree with you like this, especially when they fulfill your implied requests for citations, you don't belong here.
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I would reiterate that while the source is Ann Coulter, she is citing a work by Dr. John Lott.
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Apparently, the internet is now real life.
*downs some more steroids*
*drone* RAPE THE INNOCENT. KICK PUPPIES. STRANGLE MY FAMILY.
>>If you're going to treat people that disagree with you like this, especially when they fulfill your implied requests for citations, you don't belong here.
I can scoff at your comments, laugh at your citations, and rip your sources apart. I mean, honestly, defending Fox News via Anne Coulter reporting on a hack book. Even if you hadn't gotten your facts completely wrong, you were still in error.
Also, where do you get off? If I'm going to respond to that kind of asininity, so heartlessly, I don't belong on Slashdot?
First off, have you read Slashdot? Secondly, I didn't treat you poorly. I said you pulled it out of your ass. That isn't *that* rude. In fact, I daresay it's accurate. I feel I demonstrated my position aptly enough to show that "81% of employees of Fox News Employees donate to Democrats" is flat wrong (and not supported by the citation either). I also provided a number of good reasons why the claim should be disregarded in it's original form as well. However, I didn't address you! I addressed the argument! I addressed the claims! I addressed the source! I addressed the meat of what you said. I didn't treat you personally with any disrespect. Your beliefs, however, have done absolutely nothing to earn my respect.
To which you come back whining like I beat you with a rusty pipe. You are not your beliefs, learn to tell the difference. I reserve the right to address a person's belief, doubly so if they are part of a group focused on defending an ideology which has lead us into a worthless, unneeded, and intractable war.
Have a good day.
It is no longer uncommon to be uncommon.
As the baboon said, I lol'd.
I'm amazed that no one gave FOX his little rant about raping and killing the classmate.
Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.