When Clinton ran in 1992 the left pointed to his outright dodging of the draft as a heroic effort to skip out on that terrible war. Clinton escalated the war in Somalia, invaded Haiti, bombed the Sudan which lead to tens of thousands of deaths, Afghanistan and declared war on Serbia.
When Bush went into the Texas Air Guard and learned to fly T-33s and F-102s (the hardest and most dangerous interceptor of the era) and then skipped out at the end, he is some dodging jerk.
The late 60s and early 70s were chaotic for alot of people, unless you are going to go after Clinton for all he did, not fair to go after Bush.
As for Iraq, oh there was a clear reason to invade them, they were sponsoring terrorism in the Middle East by offering huge bonuses to bombers who attacked Israel, they threatened Kuwait over and over in the 1990s, tried to kill a former American President and were offering evidence of a WMD program to keep Iran and the US to attack them. Oh and Saddam was orchestrating the deaths of tens of thousands a year, plus had carried out three of the biggest ecological disasters of the last 20 years.
I am in IT because I grew up on a farm on the Great Plains.
I farmed, ranched and knew folks with pig farms, all of that motivated me to get a job where I didn't have to smell those things or get covered in hydraulic fluid on a regular basis.
The Republicans are right were the Democrats were in 2005, full of nutjob moonbats. Once the Democrats won Congress in 2006 they rabid insanity mellowed, hopefully the Republican adults will make gains in November 2010 and the rabid insanity will calm down.
No, Bush doesn't share responsibility for that incident.
"Befehl ist Befehl" is not a legal defense, this was established by the Allies at the end of World War Two at Nuremberg.
"The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him."
Everyone in the US military volunteered, furthermore the guys sitting in those helicopters volunteered for the Army and flight school and then tried their darnedest to get into an AH-64 because they wanted to shoot at things with that beast.
Don't blame Bush, Gore was, if anything, more hawkish in the 2000 election than Bush was and Congress voted over and over and over again from 2002-now for the war in Iraq.
Supported force in Mideast, Balkans, Haiti, not Somalia. (Oct 2000) Gore supports vigorous intervention abroad; Bush less so. (Oct 2000) Nation-building: preferable to WWIII, and a stunning success. (Oct 2000)
What today doesn't require special equipment? Not much, and besides that people making their own things won't benefit from the efficiencies of scaling.
Open Source works because there are a host of people working on it, its a virtual industry, when one gets into physical devices and constructing objects then companies and industries are efficient.
I've built houses, its much more efficient to do a bunch at a time than one or two.
Thats exactly what happened here on/. when Operation Desert Fox started in 1998, Sengan posted a long rant of a story description and then said - comments disabled. I didn't know he was Adobe Evangelist now.
As far as Presidents and religion go, his stance and comments were as close to a holy war as they could be. Oh and all the things Bush did that he is hated for, Lincoln did much worse. From what I've read of him, he was more of a Old School Calvinist.
During the Civil War, Lincoln appropriated powers no previous President had wielded: he used his war powers to proclaim a blockade, suspended the writ of habeas corpus, spent money before Congress appropriated it, and imprisoned between 15,000 and 18,000 suspected Confederate sympathizers without trial. Newspaper editors that went against the war were arrested and threatened with exile.
I liked Carter too, back when he was doing peace deals with Egypt and Israel, I met him when he came to the Rez with Habitat for Humanity, but don't what he has been doing for the last decade with Israel and the PA.
Its not the entire spool of modern Republicans or Conservatism. I'm an Atheist Republican, my fiancee is too, 3/4th of my family are secular conservative, the other 1/4 are secular liberal.
Many conservative authors and talking heads are secular, they just don't get the TV time like Beck does.
Carter was very religious and whacky, remember he claimed to have seen UFOs.
Nope. I'm from a reservation. 10% of my high school class went to college, and half of those dropped out. I'm the only one in my class and family with post-grad work.
Of my off-reservation friends, say half have a BS/BA or higher.
I've never understood this, of all the people I've known closely, the only two that didn't believe in evolution, the origins of Man and the creation of the Universe were both radicals.
One is a radical Catholic who is a pharmacist. Not sure how someone who has to take a load of science classes can be so far off reality. The other is a radical American Indian activist. Testing off the charts, brilliant guy, raised by AIM activists and just flat out refutes the evolution of man, migration across the Bering Straights Land Bridge or any other migration theories and evidence. He has a Ph.D in something from CU, he studied under Ward Churchill.
My mix of friends and family are either far-left, moderate or moderate right.
Consumer digital cameras. Modern CPUs - yea everything Intel, AMD, Sony come up with are in the private sector Modern medications - as someone who has had cancer three times I know a little about how good these have become Automotive technologies - airbags, electronic stability, much more efficient motors, example a 5.7l engine (GM LO5) in 1990 put out 190-230 hp depending on the application. Today the 5.3l (GM LM7/LM4/L59/L33) puts out 285-295 hp depending on the application and at better fuel efficiency. Modern OSes - Windows, Mac OS, Mac System, OS/2 Warp, Netware, Palm OS Mobile communications - Cell phones, Nokia, iPhone, Palm, GPS receivers at the consumer level Aircraft - Boeing 747, Airbus A300 series, G500, Citation X, Cessna 150/172/210, Bell Jet Ranger, Regional Jets (CRJ)
Those species go back at least 20-30 million years, the Uromastyx and Dragon's skulls go back 290 million years and I'm very optimistic that humanity will survive at least another million.
Even if AGW leads to an ice age, humanity will survive, it survived other ice ages when the only environmental changing technology we had was fire.
No, the switch to Intel happened when IBM kept hosing Apple with lower than expected clock speeds and a lack of G5 for the laptops.
After over a year of not being able to get to 3 GHz in the desktops and not making 2 GHz in the laptops people were ready for a change.
Back when the Pentium II snail was up against G3s, Apple-IBM-Motorola were smoking Intel. When the G4 came out and Intel was struggling with copper processes they were still beating them in desktop machines. The G5 came out and did well for a while but IBM decided to switch their focus on the 360 chip and Apple was up a creek.
As for the suing. Seriously, when some seeds from a neighboring field "taint" your field and "volunteer crops" grow, farmers don't sue their neighbors or the seed companies. So why is GM different?
Yes, make crops better with DNA. Science is a good thing.
I'm in public education - distance education. If I were a paid lobbyist I'd make alot more money.
I don't get a red cent from anyone in Chem or Ag. Again, if I did I'd make more money.
No, I don't work in the Ag Industry. I'm in public education.
On my farm we grew Wheat (Durum, Hard Red Spring, Hard Red Winter, Soft Red Winter). There currently is no GM Wheat being grown and since the US grows about 56 million metric tons, I doubt your 90% of all grain is GMO. Maize is over 80%, but other grains, not nearly as widespread.
Yes, GM fine, the licensing and patent issues are bad, but as a whole, making the grains better with science are good.
There are alot of studies on the long term consumption of maize. Too much of it seems to make people gain weight.
There are no studies done on new breeds, new hybrids either.
Having raised cattle and grain, I thank you for the sweeping over-generalization and ignorance.
Its outstanding!
No, grain production in the US isn't "one of our more shameful products" and its not all GMO. World would be alot better with more widespread GM grains to boost yields, but neo-luddites will keep fighting it tooth and nail.
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When Clinton ran in 1992 the left pointed to his outright dodging of the draft as a heroic effort to skip out on that terrible war. Clinton escalated the war in Somalia, invaded Haiti, bombed the Sudan which lead to tens of thousands of deaths, Afghanistan and declared war on Serbia.
When Bush went into the Texas Air Guard and learned to fly T-33s and F-102s (the hardest and most dangerous interceptor of the era) and then skipped out at the end, he is some dodging jerk.
The late 60s and early 70s were chaotic for alot of people, unless you are going to go after Clinton for all he did, not fair to go after Bush.
As for Iraq, oh there was a clear reason to invade them, they were sponsoring terrorism in the Middle East by offering huge bonuses to bombers who attacked Israel, they threatened Kuwait over and over in the 1990s, tried to kill a former American President and were offering evidence of a WMD program to keep Iran and the US to attack them. Oh and Saddam was orchestrating the deaths of tens of thousands a year, plus had carried out three of the biggest ecological disasters of the last 20 years.
I am in IT because I grew up on a farm on the Great Plains.
I farmed, ranched and knew folks with pig farms, all of that motivated me to get a job where I didn't have to smell those things or get covered in hydraulic fluid on a regular basis.
The Republicans are right were the Democrats were in 2005, full of nutjob moonbats. Once the Democrats won Congress in 2006 they rabid insanity mellowed, hopefully the Republican adults will make gains in November 2010 and the rabid insanity will calm down.
No, Bush doesn't share responsibility for that incident.
"Befehl ist Befehl" is not a legal defense, this was established by the Allies at the end of World War Two at Nuremberg.
"The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him."
Everyone in the US military volunteered, furthermore the guys sitting in those helicopters volunteered for the Army and flight school and then tried their darnedest to get into an AH-64 because they wanted to shoot at things with that beast.
Don't blame Bush, Gore was, if anything, more hawkish in the 2000 election than Bush was and Congress voted over and over and over again from 2002-now for the war in Iraq.
Supported force in Mideast, Balkans, Haiti, not Somalia. (Oct 2000)
Gore supports vigorous intervention abroad; Bush less so. (Oct 2000)
Nation-building: preferable to WWIII, and a stunning success. (Oct 2000)
http://www.ontheissues.org/al_gore.htm
What today doesn't require special equipment? Not much, and besides that people making their own things won't benefit from the efficiencies of scaling.
Open Source works because there are a host of people working on it, its a virtual industry, when one gets into physical devices and constructing objects then companies and industries are efficient.
I've built houses, its much more efficient to do a bunch at a time than one or two.
I'm a serious geek and thats what I was thinking when I was hunting that post down for the URL.
Thats exactly what happened here on /. when Operation Desert Fox started in 1998, Sengan posted a long rant of a story description and then said - comments disabled. I didn't know he was Adobe Evangelist now.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=98/12/16/1930206
As far as Presidents and religion go, his stance and comments were as close to a holy war as they could be. Oh and all the things Bush did that he is hated for, Lincoln did much worse. From what I've read of him, he was more of a Old School Calvinist.
During the Civil War, Lincoln appropriated powers no previous President had wielded: he used his war powers to proclaim a blockade, suspended the writ of habeas corpus, spent money before Congress appropriated it, and imprisoned between 15,000 and 18,000 suspected Confederate sympathizers without trial. Newspaper editors that went against the war were arrested and threatened with exile.
I liked Carter too, back when he was doing peace deals with Egypt and Israel, I met him when he came to the Rez with Habitat for Humanity, but don't what he has been doing for the last decade with Israel and the PA.
I'm Prairie Band Potawatomi but grew up with the Minnecojou, Sans Arc, Blackfoot and Two Kettle tribes of the Sioux.
Its not the entire spool of modern Republicans or Conservatism. I'm an Atheist Republican, my fiancee is too, 3/4th of my family are secular conservative, the other 1/4 are secular liberal.
Many conservative authors and talking heads are secular, they just don't get the TV time like Beck does.
Carter was very religious and whacky, remember he claimed to have seen UFOs.
There has always been a thread of religious nutjobery in the Republican Party, look at Abe Lincoln.
Nope. I'm from a reservation. 10% of my high school class went to college, and half of those dropped out. I'm the only one in my class and family with post-grad work.
Of my off-reservation friends, say half have a BS/BA or higher.
Republican sex is just like Democratic sex, but with Republicans theres less same-sex and a desire for lower taxes.
More BDSM in Republican circles.
I've never understood this, of all the people I've known closely, the only two that didn't believe in evolution, the origins of Man and the creation of the Universe were both radicals.
One is a radical Catholic who is a pharmacist. Not sure how someone who has to take a load of science classes can be so far off reality.
The other is a radical American Indian activist. Testing off the charts, brilliant guy, raised by AIM activists and just flat out refutes the evolution of man, migration across the Bering Straights Land Bridge or any other migration theories and evidence. He has a Ph.D in something from CU, he studied under Ward Churchill.
My mix of friends and family are either far-left, moderate or moderate right.
There was/is alot of crazy in the MU* coder ranks.
I'm from a farming and ranching region of the US, for vacation I go back and farm. I was FFA, 4-H and all that good stuff.
Also flew spray planes putting chemicals on all that yummy wheat, corn, oats, millet and rape seed.
You want bad programmers? Start a MUD/MUX/MUSH and advertise for coders, you'll get the damned scum of the earth, a Mos Eisley cantina of crap coders
Inspiring from the private sector?
Consumer digital cameras.
Modern CPUs - yea everything Intel, AMD, Sony come up with are in the private sector
Modern medications - as someone who has had cancer three times I know a little about how good these have become
Automotive technologies - airbags, electronic stability, much more efficient motors, example a 5.7l engine (GM LO5) in 1990 put out 190-230 hp depending on the application. Today the 5.3l (GM LM7/LM4/L59/L33) puts out 285-295 hp depending on the application and at better fuel efficiency.
Modern OSes - Windows, Mac OS, Mac System, OS/2 Warp, Netware, Palm OS
Mobile communications - Cell phones, Nokia, iPhone, Palm, GPS receivers at the consumer level
Aircraft - Boeing 747, Airbus A300 series, G500, Citation X, Cessna 150/172/210, Bell Jet Ranger, Regional Jets (CRJ)
Bull. Our species has survived much worse than what is happening right now and will survive. Extinction of the species is not a given.
I've got three buddies that prove a species can survive a hell of a lot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_iguana
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Bearded_Dragon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saharan_uromastyx
Those species go back at least 20-30 million years, the Uromastyx and Dragon's skulls go back 290 million years and I'm very optimistic that humanity will survive at least another million.
Even if AGW leads to an ice age, humanity will survive, it survived other ice ages when the only environmental changing technology we had was fire.
Japanese have better beef, which I said.
I've been on modern farms and ranches, in fact I will hazard a guess I've spent more time on farms and ranches than 99.9% of /.ers.
No, the switch to Intel happened when IBM kept hosing Apple with lower than expected clock speeds and a lack of G5 for the laptops.
After over a year of not being able to get to 3 GHz in the desktops and not making 2 GHz in the laptops people were ready for a change.
Back when the Pentium II snail was up against G3s, Apple-IBM-Motorola were smoking Intel. When the G4 came out and Intel was struggling with copper processes they were still beating them in desktop machines. The G5 came out and did well for a while but IBM decided to switch their focus on the 360 chip and Apple was up a creek.
You claimed 90% of all grain produced in the US is GM, that just isn't true.
I'm not going to list every grain, but will hit the top - Maize, Wheat, Barley, Rice, Millet
Maize - 332 MT - 80% GM
Rice - 4 MT - 0% GM
Wheat - 56 MT - 0% GM
Barley - 4.6 MT - 0% GM
Millet - 4 MT - 0% GM
Total - 400 MT - 66% GM
As for the suing. Seriously, when some seeds from a neighboring field "taint" your field and "volunteer crops" grow, farmers don't sue their neighbors or the seed companies. So why is GM different?
Yes, make crops better with DNA. Science is a good thing.
I'm in public education - distance education. If I were a paid lobbyist I'd make alot more money.
I don't get a red cent from anyone in Chem or Ag. Again, if I did I'd make more money.
No, I don't work in the Ag Industry. I'm in public education.
On my farm we grew Wheat (Durum, Hard Red Spring, Hard Red Winter, Soft Red Winter). There currently is no GM Wheat being grown and since the US grows about 56 million metric tons, I doubt your 90% of all grain is GMO. Maize is over 80%, but other grains, not nearly as widespread.
Yes, GM fine, the licensing and patent issues are bad, but as a whole, making the grains better with science are good.
There are alot of studies on the long term consumption of maize. Too much of it seems to make people gain weight.
There are no studies done on new breeds, new hybrids either.
Having raised cattle and grain, I thank you for the sweeping over-generalization and ignorance.
Its outstanding!
No, grain production in the US isn't "one of our more shameful products" and its not all GMO. World would be alot better with more widespread GM grains to boost yields, but neo-luddites will keep fighting it tooth and nail.