yeah... My friend played WoW on an old Dell with a GeForce 2. Let's just say that's not exactly a ferrari of a machine. hey, don't make fun of my ferrari! seriously, an old Dell with a GeForce 2 is _exactly_ what I play WoW on.
I remember seeing them using a slogan like "code is poetry". Maybe this is what they meant. If by that they meant "modern, angst-ridden badly-formed high-school poetry", then sure.
Jesus, I know... sadly enough, the actual PHP making up phpBB is pretty good (as you can tell, I've had a chance to look through most of it while trying to apply and maintain the aforementioned plugins. *sigh*)
(I want to love TXP, really - it's got a lot of things it does right, and its back end is gorgeous - but it's just a huge pain to build a template for if you're used to running a virtual domain and doing an edit-in-Textmate/reload-in-Safari cycle.) They must've changed it since then, because this is exactly how I code in it.;)
And anywho, just in case anyone was wondering, I'm no Textpattern zealot or anything (for one thing, its lack of an exporter for its own entries befuddles me endlessly, especially considering it can import from such raw sources as a WordPress DB).
But you better not want to customize or extend it, since like most open source PHP projects, it has no signs that it had any architecture to begin with. Just random individials slapped pieces of PHP and HTML randomly in the codebase until it seemed to do what they want. This could, of course, be extended to describe most PHP projects, sadly enough.
I haven't used either Movable Type or Textpattern. But after using Mambo/Joomla/PHPbb/PHPNuke and a few other CMS type apps I think when you get used to Wordpress's template system it's really pretty remarkable. It's probably simply a matter of preference, I like being able to take real HTML and make that part of my header or footer. I find it much easier and straight forward then other solutions I've seen, then if I want to dig down into the loop its all right there (and well documented to boot). Those same benefits you named are present in both Movable Type and Textpattern, and there's absolutely no need for the user to ever have to deal with a server-side programming language.
I imagine most templating systems would be difficult for people unfamiliar with PHP. Sadly enough, that describes most users of WordPress that I've had to deal with.
Naw, PHP wouldn't be the culprit -- it's server side.. The only thing on a site that would really bog down a computer would be poor or excessive JavaScript.
Ever been to Digg.com? I browse with a 3.2ghz Pentium D, and that site is horribly slow.
While I don't know the full details of how it was originally designed I too have been caught up in taking a bit of code and running with it. Only to find out in the long run, I was running a marathon when I just needed to run a lap. Sorry for the bad analogy. But it's so easy as a programmer to think one way is the best only to realize that it's not. Then to have to undo those changes while at the same time not voiding past code/works would be a nightmare. Still, I agree, it's not pretty. No, you've got a point -- sometimes things we code work fine, but if you peek under the covers, they're ugly as hell. I can relate, and I'm sure everyone's coded something like this before.
However, a supposedly "easy to use" CMS? Especially one meant for people to whom "HTML" is about as much of a computer language as they can handle? What were they thinking?
...but the way that Wordpress mashes together PHP and HTML is horrendous. Every time I have to help someone out with their Wordpress installation because they tried to change a subtle detail in their template and ended up breaking the whole thing, I'm wishing I could find and strangle its designers.
Why they didn't make it a tag-replacement system like Movable Type or Textpattern is beyond me.
Yeah -- a bunch of dudes generally looking at their feet, stumbling over words, and actually being fairly respectful compared to the reactions that women get from most other men.
Eh? Are all posts that mention the Bush Administration automatically modded down or something? Is what I said not true?
Please, if someone else is aware of another administration that overturned the Microsoft verdict, please enlighten me, because as far as I knew, it was the Bush Administration.
there is -- the later versions of noscript are like this. You can just allow all top-level javascript by default and "blacklist" sites like doubleclick.
Yeah, it takes a moment to re-enable JavaScript for sites which insist on using it for navigation (which is itself annoying, but sometimes a site has content I want.) But it's less than the aggravation of having the text I'm trying to read covered with a pop-up layer. Try just allowing all top-level sites by default -- this is usually safe, since most ad-scripts are run from off-site scripts. Plus -- trust me -- there will come a time when your whitelist becomes so huge that it starts slowing down everything that happens in the browser (this happened to me after about a year of using a single installation of NoScript).
Try it -- the way I see it, if I didn't want scripts that came directly from "Slashdot.com" or "CNN.com" to run, then I wouldn't go to these sites in the first place.
Dear god, I know what you mean -- CNN's video player causes my old Linksys Wireless-B router to go completely kaput everytime I try and view a video. It's a pretty well-documented problem, one that Linksys refuses to fix.
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...what Mark Shuttleworth is going through right now -- there's no telling the veiled threats that are starting to come in from Microsoft
If you ask me, this seems like a move designed to (hopefully) not piss Microsoft off, and get them to leave Ubuntu alone for a little while, at least.
...a virtual crime. As such, it should only have virtual punishments.
Jesus, I know... sadly enough, the actual PHP making up phpBB is pretty good (as you can tell, I've had a chance to look through most of it while trying to apply and maintain the aforementioned plugins. *sigh*)
And anywho, just in case anyone was wondering, I'm no Textpattern zealot or anything (for one thing, its lack of an exporter for its own entries befuddles me endlessly, especially considering it can import from such raw sources as a WordPress DB).
Naw, PHP wouldn't be the culprit -- it's server side.. The only thing on a site that would really bog down a computer would be poor or excessive JavaScript.
Ever been to Digg.com? I browse with a 3.2ghz Pentium D, and that site is horribly slow.
However, a supposedly "easy to use" CMS? Especially one meant for people to whom "HTML" is about as much of a computer language as they can handle? What were they thinking?
Well, at least with Textpattern you never have to see the PHP. (Unlike Wordpress.)
Flat files for storage? Wow, brings back my days of coding things on VSE. What do they say about speed?
Hmm -- you wouldn't happen to run NoScript, would you?
Hindsight? I don't see how they didn't see beforehand that it would be an awful mess. To me it's just laziness.
Then, my friend, you want http://textpattern.com/.
...but the way that Wordpress mashes together PHP and HTML is horrendous. Every time I have to help someone out with their Wordpress installation because they tried to change a subtle detail in their template and ended up breaking the whole thing, I'm wishing I could find and strangle its designers. Why they didn't make it a tag-replacement system like Movable Type or Textpattern is beyond me.
Yeah -- a bunch of dudes generally looking at their feet, stumbling over words, and actually being fairly respectful compared to the reactions that women get from most other men.
Your point?
Well, it worked for fixing the problem with low scoring from certain demographics on aptitude tests, didn't it?
Didn't it...?
...our new busty, scantily-clad programming overlords.
Eh? Are all posts that mention the Bush Administration automatically modded down or something? Is what I said not true?
Please, if someone else is aware of another administration that overturned the Microsoft verdict, please enlighten me, because as far as I knew, it was the Bush Administration.
...but I see a Google flavor of Linux coming out soon.
Nope -- all charges were overturned by the Bush Administration (pretty much). [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1361934.stm]
Nah, Zhong Lin Wang doesn't look anything like the impossibly handsome figure that Rand described. Though, I do like his microscope.
there is -- the later versions of noscript are like this. You can just allow all top-level javascript by default and "blacklist" sites like doubleclick.
Try it -- the way I see it, if I didn't want scripts that came directly from "Slashdot.com" or "CNN.com" to run, then I wouldn't go to these sites in the first place.
Dear god, I know what you mean -- CNN's video player causes my old Linksys Wireless-B router to go completely kaput everytime I try and view a video. It's a pretty well-documented problem, one that Linksys refuses to fix.