Why don't you tell Mr. Torvalds yourself. It almost sounds like he does know, just expects better. Which leads to another interesting dynamic of OSS, don't piss off you user base if you wish to have a user base.
Maybe to you it makes the word useless, but it still does not make the patriotic sentiment any less valuable to those citizens that know their own patriotism. A rose by any other name...
On the other hand why do you feel the need to have a such a black and white view of patriotism? This is just a guess, but maybe you want every one to have the same kind of patriotism as you do? Last I checked, Patriotism is not exactly the kind of thing you want to be quantifying anyways unless you are after shaming the citizenry into doing something. Which is exactly what the government would like to do, and is how we end up with 1984.
Here try this one on for size. If patriotism is "love of your country" in the simplest terms, tell me what love is in the first place.
Don't forget the part about Americans believing that individual responsibility is necessary for a good society.
But aside from that, I think we can both agree on your last statement.
It will only be in the next few years with the wicked Obama administration that patriotism reverses to 'hush, don't say anything, support our centrally controlled economy'.
Don't kid yourself. Obama will also do anything to protect his flock including an electric fence up despite the fact that some of them are sheepdogs that neither need nor want his protection.
I agree that Railways is a good service for the EU because of the density of countries and border laws and import regulations, but in the USA it would be a waste to put trans-state transportation wholly in the hands of the government. Hiring private companies to build the roads based on a bidding process, and funded by my money, no objection from me there. Paying a government organization to build all the roads, no thank you.
As a side note, it is because of the size of the US government that the military industrial complex exists. If I were to whittle down the federal government, the first thing I would do is limit the scope of US military operation down to counter invasion forces only, and all the troops at all the military bases in the world, with the possible exception of Japan, would be coming home.
And that's pretty bad business. See, the minions and peons of a country are the only ones who are shamed and goaded into being "patriotic". Corporations cannot be bothered by such sentiments or they will wither and die, or so the common sense of today would suggest.
It's true. But only because of the modern misconception of patriotism.
From the Wiki
Patriotism is commonly defined as love of and/or devotion to one's country. The word comes from the Latin, patria, and Greek patritha. However, "patriotism," or the love of one's country, has come to have different meanings over time. Thus, the meaning of patriotism can be highly dependent upon context, geography and philosophy.
Although used in certain vernaculars as a synonym for nationalism, nationalism is not considered an inherent part of patriotism. Among the ancient Greeks, patriotism of notions concerning language, religious traditions, ethics, law and devotion to the common good, rather than pure identification with a nation-state. Scholar J. Peter Euben writes that for the Greek philosopher Socrates, "patriotism does not require one to agree with everything that his country does and would actually promote analytical questioning in a quest to make the country the best it possibly can be."
During the 18th century Age of Enlightenment, the notion of patriotism continued to be separate from the notion of nationalism. Instead, patriotism was defined as devotion to humanity and beneficence. For example, providing charity, criticizing slavery, and denouncing excessive penal laws were all considered patriotic. In both ancient and modern visions of patriotism, individual responsibility to fellow citizens is an inherent component of patriotism.
Many contemporary notions of patriotism are influenced by 19th century ideas about nationalism. During the 19th century, "being patriotic" became increasingly conflated with nationalism, and even jingoism. However, some notions of contemporary patriotism reject nationalism in favor of a more classic version of the idea of patriotism which includes social responsibility.
I don't believe that welfare is patriotic, nor is buying American made products simply because they are American. I believe patriotism is the love of the ideals and customs that make your country great. So I think Socrates had the best idea about what Patriotism really is about. All that other stuff is simply mistaking one individual's version of Patriotism for another's. And in the USA, where the opinion of the individual is allowed free reign, there are going to be many versions of patriotism. But the key to remember is that your patriotism is not my patriotism in a free society.
But can you really ignore the rate of negative change? I'd say that the Integral term is responsible for the above statement.
Although the Derivative term could also be a likely factor.
Not Unreasonable? Because people in general would benefit from a lowest-tax rate competition? Or because the economic union would otherwise go unfunded when people realize that it isn't worth what they pay?
One that didn't work out, as it turns out; the courts didn't buy the idea that they were beyond the reach of US courts just because they weren't within the boundaries of the United States.
Maybe you should take a concealed carry weapons course and see what they teach before you start judging people who carry a gun for legally for self defense. Walk a mile in another man's shoes and all that...
That is perfectly A-ok with me. But while we are at it, let's make it so anything not expressly written into the constitution is up to the state to decide as well. That way states like California can't use their weight to make national laws that only suit California.
Yea, we should have the slaves unite to build us a pyramid. Once the project is underway the slaves could then buy alcohol and pacify their fears, and keep working on the glorious pyramid. Sounds awesome.
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Why don't you tell Mr. Torvalds yourself.
It almost sounds like he does know, just expects better.
Which leads to another interesting dynamic of OSS, don't piss off you user base if you wish to have a user base.
Or create another destructive status quo as reaction to the first.
Maybe to you it makes the word useless, but it still does not make the patriotic sentiment any less valuable to those citizens that know their own patriotism. A rose by any other name...
On the other hand why do you feel the need to have a such a black and white view of patriotism? This is just a guess, but maybe you want every one to have the same kind of patriotism as you do? Last I checked, Patriotism is not exactly the kind of thing you want to be quantifying anyways unless you are after shaming the citizenry into doing something. Which is exactly what the government would like to do, and is how we end up with 1984.
Here try this one on for size. If patriotism is "love of your country" in the simplest terms, tell me what love is in the first place.
Awww man, I go trolling and I get and AC. Lame.
Don't forget the part about Americans believing that individual responsibility is necessary for a good society.
But aside from that, I think we can both agree on your last statement.
It will only be in the next few years with the wicked Obama administration that patriotism reverses to 'hush, don't say anything, support our centrally controlled economy'.
The mentality is already there.
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Don't kid yourself. Obama will also do anything to protect his flock including an electric fence up despite the fact that some of them are sheepdogs that neither need nor want his protection.
I agree that Railways is a good service for the EU because of the density of countries and border laws and import regulations, but in the USA it would be a waste to put trans-state transportation wholly in the hands of the government. Hiring private companies to build the roads based on a bidding process, and funded by my money, no objection from me there. Paying a government organization to build all the roads, no thank you.
As a side note, it is because of the size of the US government that the military industrial complex exists. If I were to whittle down the federal government, the first thing I would do is limit the scope of US military operation down to counter invasion forces only, and all the troops at all the military bases in the world, with the possible exception of Japan, would be coming home.
It's true. But only because of the modern misconception of patriotism. From the Wiki
I don't believe that welfare is patriotic, nor is buying American made products simply because they are American. I believe patriotism is the love of the ideals and customs that make your country great. So I think Socrates had the best idea about what Patriotism really is about. All that other stuff is simply mistaking one individual's version of Patriotism for another's. And in the USA, where the opinion of the individual is allowed free reign, there are going to be many versions of patriotism. But the key to remember is that your patriotism is not my patriotism in a free society.
Yea competition, it's so evil it makes our lives worse.
And that national industry is awesome. I love tanks and bombs to use on other countries.
All jest aside, I think it's best if you live in your country (assuming you live in Europe, my apologies on the assumption) and I try to fix mine.
People are sheep when they chose to be. I chose not to be so I'm punished. That creates only so much sympathy for the sheep.
But can you really ignore the rate of negative change?
I'd say that the Integral term is responsible for the above statement.
Although the Derivative term could also be a likely factor.
I think the point here is that if he can't (or won't) do this after he becomes president, why did people think he could do it in the first place?
Not Unreasonable? Because people in general would benefit from a lowest-tax rate competition? Or because the economic union would otherwise go unfunded when people realize that it isn't worth what they pay?
Sounds completely reasonable to me...
I take it you make your own clothes and food and are not a big believer in the Division of Labour?
You're telling me it's a crime to have low taxes in the EU?
Are you shitting me?
That doesn't sound dangerous at all.
Maybe you should take a concealed carry weapons course and see what they teach before you start judging people who carry a gun for legally for self defense. Walk a mile in another man's shoes and all that...
That is perfectly A-ok with me. But while we are at it, let's make it so anything not expressly written into the constitution is up to the state to decide as well. That way states like California can't use their weight to make national laws that only suit California.
Did I miss something or did you just deem self defense as an immoral act?
Yea, we should have the slaves unite to build us a pyramid. Once the project is underway the slaves could then buy alcohol and pacify their fears, and keep working on the glorious pyramid. Sounds awesome.
Not entirely. This bubble was fed with credit made possible by the FED. In that regards it was an enabler.
Or so much fructose corn syrup...
Assuming the government uses the money wisely.
When was the last time you saw someone who stole money use it wisely?