It really great that they built a Millennium Falcon for the kid and all; but if he really had a wish and is a Star Wars fan, he really should've wished that Greedo shot first.
What? No!
Greedo shot first in the Special Editions. So the kid would basically have already got his wish. It's supposed to be Solo who fires first, with Greedo dead before firing a shot.
Yeah, but the kid with the Millennium Falcon ain't interested in your revolution, man, he's in it for the money. He expects to be well-paid. He's not crazy enough to attack that battle station, that's suicide!
They essentially defined their entire language in a couple of pages.
That's not C, and it sure isn't C++.
It's a tiny subset of either, but, like English, it's the subset pretty much any speaker can speak. And, like the commonly-spoken subset of English, it quickly hits its limitations should up anything complicated and technically constrained come.
Please explain. I really haven't seen any evidence that the Arduino programming environment reformulates "sketch" source code before passing it to GCC... The Wikipedia page for Arduino describes "Wiring" as a C++ library and says that Arduino "sketches" are written in C++...
I would expect, as an optimization for the microcontroller, that features like exceptions and virtual methods might not be supported... Otherwise, anything they could do to impede access to C++'s capabilities seems like a waste of time.
The complaints are there because the iPhone is a mobile phone, not a game console.
Gamers are used to the idea that their systems can only play "approved" media, with the indie/homebrew developers being seen as on the fringe.
With mobile phones, at least with smart phones, you can install whatever program you can manage to find. A Blackberry, Win Mo., Symbian, etc. device doesn't require you to get approval before installing a program. They act like most PCs, where you can install what you want, but it's your responsibility to not install harmful stuff.
In that sense, it's like a battle to control people's expectations. Gamers are, as you say, used to game consoles being inaccessible to homebrew. In that case, if mobile phone users become "used to" paying for ringtone versions of songs they already have, or getting charged disproportionately large amounts of money for simple features like text messaging, or arbitrary restrictions on how they can use "unlimited" data plans, or (as in the case of Apple) losing the right to install software that's not been authorized by Apple - then will these policies then be OK? If people's expectations are adjusted to fit what the device provides, then there's no problem, right?
Yea, cause the anarchy of the 'open' world works so bloody well, hence the last 10 years of 'The year of the Linux desktop'
The years of the Windows desktops beg to differ.
Yeah, the problems with the Linux user experience aren't a result of access to the platform being unrestricted by any controlling organization. They're a result of many other issues - lack of central leadership, lack of sufficient development resources devoted to improving the situation... matters of ideology blocking the use of certain pre-existing code, and so on. The argument isn't about Apple's approach with the iPhone compared software libre or open source - it's about Apple's approach with the iPhone as compared to the normal situation with portable and desktop computers, in which the user is at liberty to do more or less as they please.
You could even use Mac OS X as a counter-example. Apple doesn't claim the power to decide what applications may be deployed for OS X... Is OS X a disaster as a result? Is the "anarchy" that allows one to download, say, an SNES emulator and run it on a Mac laptop somehow a bad thing?
If you're used to dealing with the AVR, and the C language on the AVR, the Arduino already looks awfully hacker unfriendly.
How's that?
I mean, the Arduino Introduction page claims that the Arduino programming language is something called "Wiring", right? I've never really understood that. It looks like C or C++. As far as I can tell, it's just a set of libraries on a C++ environment.
And if you don't like the Arduino programming environment, you don't need to use it. You can compile your code outside of the Arduino environment, and send it to the Arduino board with avrdude... All you'd need to do is make sure your program doesn't expect to occupy the flash space occupied by the bootloader... Though if you programmed the Arduino with ISP, you could overwrite the bootloader if you wanted...
Arduino IS the platform for people who don't know how to use an interrupt. Everyone who knows how stuff works skips the Arduino since it don't really add anything useful.
I don't know... I mean, I started out with PICs. My wife bought me an Arduino for Christmas last year - I don't know that I ever would have bought one myself, but I've enjoyed it. It's kind of handy having a dev. board, with some good power supply options and a PC interface built-in, and it's kind of handy to be able to pick up "shield" hardware and run pre-made code to try things out...
Sometimes I feel like it's made me kind of lazy - like I'm coming to rely too much on other people's code and hardware designs... So I try not to overuse it.:)
So I take it you have never seen Super Mario Bros. 1, 2 & 3, Super Mario Land, Super Mario World, Mario 64, Super Mario Galaxy, New Super Mario Bros and Super Mario Galaxy 2?
Aren't those just all more examples of how they're (supposedly) afraid to do something new?
No.
If you believe that - then argue the point, seriously!
My perspective - I think the Mario games are a lot of fun and personally I don't find reason to complain when another one is released. But if someone's complaining about Nintendo churning out "the same old thing" and someone else provides Mario as a counterexample of that - I just really question the logic there.
Did anybody stop after reading the line about interacting with the world via paint and paint thinner? Why do I have a feeling that halfway through the game Mickey will become enamored with the other uses of paint thinner.
Remember how I said you couldn't kill a Toon? Well, Doom found a way. Turpentine, acetone, benzine. He calls it "The Dip"!
I'm glad someone else made this connection... I mean, a cartoon character running around with paint thinner? In Roger Rabbit terms that's a murderous rampage!
> That's just marketing speak for "We're way too pathetic to have the balls to go with something new
So I take it you have never seen Super Mario Bros. 1, 2 & 3, Super Mario Land, Super Mario World, Mario 64, Super Mario Galaxy, New Super Mario Bros and Super Mario Galaxy 2? That, or you are just making shit up to be righteous.
Aren't those just all more examples of how they're (supposedly) afraid to do something new? I mean, all of those games had "something new" in them, but making a Mario game is like the safest possible move for Nintendo...
Franchise? What franchise? Kid Icarus isn't a franchise! They only ever made the one game! A sequel 30 years after the original is kind of pushing it, people. New ideas, new ideas...*sigh*.
Looks like I'm on the wrong end of a common misconception of a perceived misconception...
Careful, you could take out Norman with a sentence like that...:) As it is, I'm slightly lost.
I wouldn't trust reference.com to the ends of the Earth or anything, but I was curious to see if you were right, and I tried the resources I had handy...
People have been claiming this since Spy Hunter came out. It was bunk then and it is bunk now. It's not video games that make you drive fast, it's the Peter Gunn theme.
Whatever, man... All I know is that when those armored cars come to try and run me off the road, I'd better be prepared to hit back.
You think that's bad...? What about the time I went driving with the radio on right after my all-night Amplitude gaming session?
Radio Announcer: Next up, Cherry Lips by Garbage! Me: Da-da da-da da-da da-da, Da-da da-da da-da da-da (the car suddenly swerves into the next lane, crashing into another person doing the same thing.)
So unless you got some quantum sponge or something, yer getting it wrong! Please use "inertia dampers" instead.
You're going to need to back up your assertion with a dictionary of some kind, because the resources I have handy say either word can take either meaning.
Yep, but you have to admit that Macron 1 took it to the edge.
Don't know, I'd never heard of Macron 1 until today. All my old experiences with combining robots were from Transformers - particularly, the Constructicons and their contemporaries...
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It really great that they built a Millennium Falcon for the kid and all; but if he really had a wish and is a Star Wars fan, he really should've wished that Greedo shot first.
What? No!
Greedo shot first in the Special Editions. So the kid would basically have already got his wish. It's supposed to be Solo who fires first, with Greedo dead before firing a shot.
The kid next door is building a Death Star.
Yeah, but the kid with the Millennium Falcon ain't interested in your revolution, man, he's in it for the money. He expects to be well-paid. He's not crazy enough to attack that battle station, that's suicide!
Look at this thing, would you? How the hell could they miss such a simple and important design feature as the mandible toe-in?
The strike against him is that he doesn't speak French.
So what? It's not like he's running for office in France or anything...
Darn you, Graske!
I hope it is a first person shooter!!! I can't wait to go looting!!!
No such luck, I'm afraid.
What I can't figure out is how the hell I'm supposed to help flooding victims with a damn toy plastic guitar...
Was I the only one surprised at how low 37% seems?
Lower still when you consider your mom accounts for half of that (or two-thirds by mass...)
They essentially defined their entire language in a couple of pages.
That's not C, and it sure isn't C++.
It's a tiny subset of either, but, like English, it's the subset pretty much any speaker can speak. And, like the commonly-spoken subset of English, it quickly hits its limitations should up anything complicated and technically constrained come.
Please explain. I really haven't seen any evidence that the Arduino programming environment reformulates "sketch" source code before passing it to GCC... The Wikipedia page for Arduino describes "Wiring" as a C++ library and says that Arduino "sketches" are written in C++...
I would expect, as an optimization for the microcontroller, that features like exceptions and virtual methods might not be supported... Otherwise, anything they could do to impede access to C++'s capabilities seems like a waste of time.
The complaints are there because the iPhone is a mobile phone, not a game console.
Gamers are used to the idea that their systems can only play "approved" media, with the indie/homebrew developers being seen as on the fringe.
With mobile phones, at least with smart phones, you can install whatever program you can manage to find. A Blackberry, Win Mo., Symbian, etc. device doesn't require you to get approval before installing a program. They act like most PCs, where you can install what you want, but it's your responsibility to not install harmful stuff.
In that sense, it's like a battle to control people's expectations. Gamers are, as you say, used to game consoles being inaccessible to homebrew. In that case, if mobile phone users become "used to" paying for ringtone versions of songs they already have, or getting charged disproportionately large amounts of money for simple features like text messaging, or arbitrary restrictions on how they can use "unlimited" data plans, or (as in the case of Apple) losing the right to install software that's not been authorized by Apple - then will these policies then be OK? If people's expectations are adjusted to fit what the device provides, then there's no problem, right?
Yea, cause the anarchy of the 'open' world works so bloody well, hence the last 10 years of 'The year of the Linux desktop'
The years of the Windows desktops beg to differ.
Yeah, the problems with the Linux user experience aren't a result of access to the platform being unrestricted by any controlling organization. They're a result of many other issues - lack of central leadership, lack of sufficient development resources devoted to improving the situation... matters of ideology blocking the use of certain pre-existing code, and so on. The argument isn't about Apple's approach with the iPhone compared software libre or open source - it's about Apple's approach with the iPhone as compared to the normal situation with portable and desktop computers, in which the user is at liberty to do more or less as they please.
You could even use Mac OS X as a counter-example. Apple doesn't claim the power to decide what applications may be deployed for OS X... Is OS X a disaster as a result? Is the "anarchy" that allows one to download, say, an SNES emulator and run it on a Mac laptop somehow a bad thing?
If you're used to dealing with the AVR, and the C language on the AVR, the Arduino already looks awfully hacker unfriendly.
How's that?
I mean, the Arduino Introduction page claims that the Arduino programming language is something called "Wiring", right? I've never really understood that. It looks like C or C++. As far as I can tell, it's just a set of libraries on a C++ environment.
And if you don't like the Arduino programming environment, you don't need to use it. You can compile your code outside of the Arduino environment, and send it to the Arduino board with avrdude... All you'd need to do is make sure your program doesn't expect to occupy the flash space occupied by the bootloader... Though if you programmed the Arduino with ISP, you could overwrite the bootloader if you wanted...
Arduino IS the platform for people who don't know how to use an interrupt. Everyone who knows how stuff works skips the Arduino since it don't really add anything useful.
I don't know... I mean, I started out with PICs. My wife bought me an Arduino for Christmas last year - I don't know that I ever would have bought one myself, but I've enjoyed it. It's kind of handy having a dev. board, with some good power supply options and a PC interface built-in, and it's kind of handy to be able to pick up "shield" hardware and run pre-made code to try things out...
Sometimes I feel like it's made me kind of lazy - like I'm coming to rely too much on other people's code and hardware designs... So I try not to overuse it. :)
It's easy to feel good about Apple's policies, when they work out in your favor. :)
I re-read my post and I think I come off as being snide/hostile. It's not intentional, I'm sorry man.
That's cool...
So I take it you have never seen Super Mario Bros. 1, 2 & 3, Super Mario Land, Super Mario World, Mario 64, Super Mario Galaxy, New Super Mario Bros and Super Mario Galaxy 2?
Aren't those just all more examples of how they're (supposedly) afraid to do something new?
No.
If you believe that - then argue the point, seriously!
My perspective - I think the Mario games are a lot of fun and personally I don't find reason to complain when another one is released. But if someone's complaining about Nintendo churning out "the same old thing" and someone else provides Mario as a counterexample of that - I just really question the logic there.
Did anybody stop after reading the line about interacting with the world via paint and paint thinner? Why do I have a feeling that halfway through the game Mickey will become enamored with the other uses of paint thinner.
Remember how I said you couldn't kill a Toon? Well, Doom found a way. Turpentine, acetone, benzine. He calls it "The Dip"!
I'm glad someone else made this connection... I mean, a cartoon character running around with paint thinner? In Roger Rabbit terms that's a murderous rampage!
> That's just marketing speak for "We're way too pathetic to have the balls to go with something new
So I take it you have never seen Super Mario Bros. 1, 2 & 3, Super Mario Land, Super Mario World, Mario 64, Super Mario Galaxy, New Super Mario Bros and Super Mario Galaxy 2? That, or you are just making shit up to be righteous.
Aren't those just all more examples of how they're (supposedly) afraid to do something new? I mean, all of those games had "something new" in them, but making a Mario game is like the safest possible move for Nintendo...
(Oh, and you forgot Super Mario Sunshine...)
Franchise? What franchise? Kid Icarus isn't a franchise! They only ever made the one game! A sequel 30 years after the original is kind of pushing it, people. New ideas, new ideas...*sigh*.
Two. There was a Game Boy game.
Still, though...
He was also one of the stars of "Captain N: The Game Master"!
Rupert Murdoch will be glad to sell you a subscription.
Face-man's gonna have to bust him out first.
Am I the only still buying copies of 2600?
Am I the only leaving words out of my sentences?
Oh, I not.
I've never left a word out one of your sentences in my life!
Well well well,
Looks like I'm on the wrong end of a common misconception of a perceived misconception...
Careful, you could take out Norman with a sentence like that... :) As it is, I'm slightly lost.
I wouldn't trust reference.com to the ends of the Earth or anything, but I was curious to see if you were right, and I tried the resources I had handy...
People have been claiming this since Spy Hunter came out. It was bunk then and it is bunk now. It's not video games that make you drive fast, it's the Peter Gunn theme.
Whatever, man... All I know is that when those armored cars come to try and run me off the road, I'd better be prepared to hit back.
You think that's bad...? What about the time I went driving with the radio on right after my all-night Amplitude gaming session?
I cannea take it no more cap'tin
To damp - to reduce
To dampen - to make moist
So unless you got some quantum sponge or something, yer getting it wrong! Please use "inertia dampers" instead.
You're going to need to back up your assertion with a dictionary of some kind, because the resources I have handy say either word can take either meaning.
dictionary.com "dampen"
dictionary.com "damp"
Yep, but you have to admit that Macron 1 took it to the edge.
Don't know, I'd never heard of Macron 1 until today. All my old experiences with combining robots were from Transformers - particularly, the Constructicons and their contemporaries...