You know what they say about Microsoft programmers... The tie constrains the veins and arteriae on the neck, reducing blood supply to the brain, making the wearer dumber, and think other people are as dumb as he is.
I'm Brazilian, and as a regular importer, I can tell you that books and software are some of the few products that are exempt from import taxes. There must have been another reason for this.
Isn't the Jury the personification of the judgement of your peers? If you are a male, upper-class computer geek, doesn't that qualify (in the case of Reiser's trial)? I'd rather be judged by people with scientific or statistical training than by some accountant or truck driver or HR manager, if I were in his position.
NASA is a big organization. Perhaps he's trying to insinuate that NASA is sometimes incompetent at some things it does (imperial vs. metric anyone?) I'm about as unamerican as any other non-USian citizen out there, but I've dealt with big organizations, government or otherwise before,and I've seen my share of corporate stupidity and employee stupidity, which may be not even this case, because, as big as NASA is, they don't cater for the underachieving.
Well... If I were a used cars salesman I'd say that the best bang for your buck is a 1995 BMW 325i with all the luxuries you can think about for about the same price as a 2008 1.0L four-banger Fiat Palio with, at the very most, air conditioning (which, in a 1.0L, 70hp vehicle is ridiculous, but quite essential in a country like here, Brazil)...
Yes, the 325i has more mileage behind it, maintainance costs are higher (as much as 4x as a spanking new Fiat Palio), but when it comes down to it, it's a freaking BMW, and I can afford it, and I think the used car salesman got me.
Same as Bioware; I'm a HUGE Neverwinter Nights fan, and became acquainted with it because it ran natively on Linux. All the bitching from me and many, many other Linux enthusiasts, however, didn't move them to make a native Neverwinter Nights 2 for Linux. I voted with my wallet, even though I crave to see the new version of the game I love most. Is it hard? Yes, it is, but I've lived 26 years without NWN 2, and I can live a few more years without it; it means more time to go out, ride a bike, see the sun, have sex (masturbating is having sex,right? Right? C'mon, we're on Slashdot!), read books, whatever. The point is, it isn't a Linux flaw, it is a developer's fault that we don't have those games on the OS we've come to love and respect.
Of course no one can switch their business overnight, that's what WINE, Xen and other such projects are for. But I'm here to pick you on your point about IDEs. Photoshop not running on Linux isn't Linux's fault; it's entirely Adobe's fault..
But, Visual Studio? Well, we're talking about a completely different philosophy, and a different development model here. First of all, the greatest functionality of all that Visual Studio provides to developers is easy access to documentation. A *nix developer will have his reference documentation in a browser, as many windows as he can have. In-code reference? We all know about Eclipse's C-H etc., or even Vim's cscope plugin, and Emacs users also have more than one solution. The possibilities are endless. *# languages, as well as VB, are belong to Microsoft. I don't believe in Mono. And, frankly, beginner developers, those that Microsoft cater to with their Studio products, should hone their skills on a college or university and learn how to program properly before entering the market.
Welcome to Slashdot, land of the Nerds and Failed Car Analogies and closet Microsoft lovers. A car gets you to point A to point B since the 1920's with relative comfort. A 2008 BMW 328 isn't any more comfortable or safer than a 1995 BMW 325, and the mileage and power is about the same. If technology evolved to allow me to have a terabyte HD and 8+ GB of memory and a couple or two of quad-core chips on my desktop on a relatively affordable price, why on Earth should I waste that power and storage with a subsystem that, for all I (as a John L. User) know, shouldn't even be there? I mean, when you plug something on your wall socket, the energy is just there, no fuss, no nothing, it simply IS. The operating system should be the same; it is used as a broker between the SOFTWARE you want to use and that multi-gigabyte, multi-core, multi-gigahertz, multi-whatever hardware you have. So what if iron wires are cheaper and more available than copper ones? The power station can handle that kind of hardware, and you can afford to have fatter copper wire than iron ones, with the same specs (current and tension) as copper, efficiency be damned.
Not the end, but more realistically, the start of the end. With the Eee PC being the huge success it is, proving to the masses that Linux is more than adequate for day-to-day tasks, we are at a point where people begin to see Microsoft and their monopolistic (couldn't find a better word, albeit a cliché) practices more of a liability than an asset.
So your answer on how to get PC games to work on Linux, is to not play PC games? I'm just *not allowed* to play starcraft II when it comes out?
Bohooo! Bitch to Blizzard, they are the ones who didn't port their games to non-windows OSs. I know, I've bitched to death to Atari and Bioware for a Linux-based NWN 2 client. iD Software, on the other hand, know their stuff, and know their market; Quake 4 and Doom 3 absolutely and natively rock on Linux. Linux-based OSs have proved time and again that they are very worthy gaming platforms
Many people own PC's specifically for playing games, and don't do much else with them. Is your solution for them, that they don't need a computer at all? Or maybe they should put Linux on their computer, and then throw it in the closet and never look at it again?
"Many people own PS2s specifically for playing games, and don't do much else with them. is your solution for them, that they don't need a PS2 at all?"
If they want to play games and almost nothing else, yes, they may keep their XP PCs or switch to a platform explicitly dedicated to gaming, such as PS3 or Wii, or the latest XBox. Besides, they say that keeping a console is waay cheaper than a gaming PC, even more so if you keep in mind that a console is good for at the very least 3 years.
Well, there goes my karma going offtopic... But you are entitled to a clarification on why I so vehemently presented my opinion. In the third-world countries, we strive to immitate those who are successful; so far, the most successful country is the United States. There's envy, there is the feeling that we're being explored, yes, true, but then, there is the "apeing", as a verb, what our more successful countries do, in order to try to, perhaps, be more successful ourselves. Political Correctness is one of those traits we, or at least our elites, try to pick up from you, with disastrous results. Please don't take me personally, it's a very different reality, we're in very different worlds, yet our leaders try to apply the exact same solutions as you to marginally, or non-existent, problems over here.
I'm sorry for the harshness in my comment, but give me the fact that Slashdot is a worldwide forum.
Well, I've followed Slashdot closely since the very first day of 2008 (actually, I think I was the first person of my country to post here in the new year), but strangely haven't seen anything about this being the year of the Linux on the desktop. Perhaps we missed the chance when the Eee PC was launched, or KDE 4.0 (which is beautiful, if unpolished) or something. Whatever. I, from the top of my chair under my momma's basement, proclaim:
I see two mistakes in your comment. First, black*, foreign (whatever country you are from; I'm assuming U.S.) and (arguably) gay people are born the way they are; they cannot change that, and even if they could, many, or most, wouldn't. On the other hand, a consumer has the choice to either spend more than he earns in a month (and, believe me, it happens more often than not down here in the Third World) on an item he believes (often correctly) that will give him more social status, or spend half or two-third his monthly wage on something that will be useful to him, running some OS and graphic DE that is at least as beautiful as Apple's.
The second mistake I see is that the Free and/or Open Source (internal feuds do exist; let them sort themselves out) Software fanboys are even more plentiful than Apple ones. Being one of those myself, I think the reason is that we believe in an ideal, fulfilled by the hard work of those seeking recognition among their peers, or money, or plain and simple sense of self-fulfillment. Yes, there are very vocal FOSS fanboys out there, but they are either novices to the belief or prophets of the cult; most of us fall in-between, prowd of our sense of judgement, knowing what is good and what isn't for our families and for our our stranded relative's PHD about-to-be-lost-to-a-virus thesis.
* That PC crap hits my nerves; I'm black, but I was born in Brazil; I'm not a fucking African-American, I'm BLACK, thank you very much! And I wasn't born in a "developing country", I was born and live in an UNDERDEVELOPED country; the notion that we are in a "developing country" has deluded our leaders to think we are "getting there". No country "gets there" when 32 million of its population STARVES.
Wikipedia says it's the very same Eee PC 701 4G, only renamed (mine is due to arrive in a few more days, I just can't wait it...)
When I bought the Eee, I was in doubt between it and the Nokia N810. But, for the same price, you get a touch-typable (after getting used to) keyboard and a larger screen, not to mention endless connection possibilities (Ethernet is virtually omnipresent, be you in Manhattan or in a hotel in Kuala-Lumpur). Running Linux natively is a huge boost to me (that's why I didn't even look at HTC offerings).
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Judge: "Why did you kill your wife, and not her lover?"
Defendant: "What would be better? That I killed only my wife, or a dozen other men?"
Thanks for the "troll" when trying to be helpful.
Translates to something like "Air-conditioning by default". A car ad. Yeah, in Brazil not all cars come with air cooling.
You know what they say about Microsoft programmers... The tie constrains the veins and arteriae on the neck, reducing blood supply to the brain, making the wearer dumber, and think other people are as dumb as he is.
I'm Brazilian, and as a regular importer, I can tell you that books and software are some of the few products that are exempt from import taxes. There must have been another reason for this.
Forth.NET? Perfect? Yuck!
Isn't the Jury the personification of the judgement of your peers? If you are a male, upper-class computer geek, doesn't that qualify (in the case of Reiser's trial)? I'd rather be judged by people with scientific or statistical training than by some accountant or truck driver or HR manager, if I were in his position.
I'm a little too drunk, or I read that as "dildos"... Whateva.
NASA is a big organization. Perhaps he's trying to insinuate that NASA is sometimes incompetent at some things it does (imperial vs. metric anyone?) I'm about as unamerican as any other non-USian citizen out there, but I've dealt with big organizations, government or otherwise before,and I've seen my share of corporate stupidity and employee stupidity, which may be not even this case, because, as big as NASA is, they don't cater for the underachieving.
Bah, rocket science isn't brain surgery!
Well... If I were a used cars salesman I'd say that the best bang for your buck is a 1995 BMW 325i with all the luxuries you can think about for about the same price as a 2008 1.0L four-banger Fiat Palio with, at the very most, air conditioning (which, in a 1.0L, 70hp vehicle is ridiculous, but quite essential in a country like here, Brazil)...
Yes, the 325i has more mileage behind it, maintainance costs are higher (as much as 4x as a spanking new Fiat Palio), but when it comes down to it, it's a freaking BMW, and I can afford it, and I think the used car salesman got me.
Same as Bioware; I'm a HUGE Neverwinter Nights fan, and became acquainted with it because it ran natively on Linux. All the bitching from me and many, many other Linux enthusiasts, however, didn't move them to make a native Neverwinter Nights 2 for Linux. I voted with my wallet, even though I crave to see the new version of the game I love most. Is it hard? Yes, it is, but I've lived 26 years without NWN 2, and I can live a few more years without it; it means more time to go out, ride a bike, see the sun, have sex (masturbating is having sex,right? Right? C'mon, we're on Slashdot!), read books, whatever. The point is, it isn't a Linux flaw, it is a developer's fault that we don't have those games on the OS we've come to love and respect.
Of course no one can switch their business overnight, that's what WINE, Xen and other such projects are for. But I'm here to pick you on your point about IDEs. Photoshop not running on Linux isn't Linux's fault; it's entirely Adobe's fault..
But, Visual Studio? Well, we're talking about a completely different philosophy, and a different development model here. First of all, the greatest functionality of all that Visual Studio provides to developers is easy access to documentation. A *nix developer will have his reference documentation in a browser, as many windows as he can have. In-code reference? We all know about Eclipse's C-H etc., or even Vim's cscope plugin, and Emacs users also have more than one solution. The possibilities are endless. *# languages, as well as VB, are belong to Microsoft. I don't believe in Mono. And, frankly, beginner developers, those that Microsoft cater to with their Studio products, should hone their skills on a college or university and learn how to program properly before entering the market.
Thanks for the plug, always looking for native (proprietary or not) quality Linux games... until ads overwhelm me :)
Welcome to Slashdot, land of the Nerds and Failed Car Analogies and closet Microsoft lovers. A car gets you to point A to point B since the 1920's with relative comfort. A 2008 BMW 328 isn't any more comfortable or safer than a 1995 BMW 325, and the mileage and power is about the same. If technology evolved to allow me to have a terabyte HD and 8+ GB of memory and a couple or two of quad-core chips on my desktop on a relatively affordable price, why on Earth should I waste that power and storage with a subsystem that, for all I (as a John L. User) know, shouldn't even be there? I mean, when you plug something on your wall socket, the energy is just there, no fuss, no nothing, it simply IS. The operating system should be the same; it is used as a broker between the SOFTWARE you want to use and that multi-gigabyte, multi-core, multi-gigahertz, multi-whatever hardware you have. So what if iron wires are cheaper and more available than copper ones? The power station can handle that kind of hardware, and you can afford to have fatter copper wire than iron ones, with the same specs (current and tension) as copper, efficiency be damned.
Your honor, I rest my case.
Not the end, but more realistically, the start of the end. With the Eee PC being the huge success it is, proving to the masses that Linux is more than adequate for day-to-day tasks, we are at a point where people begin to see Microsoft and their monopolistic (couldn't find a better word, albeit a cliché) practices more of a liability than an asset.
Bohooo! Bitch to Blizzard, they are the ones who didn't port their games to non-windows OSs. I know, I've bitched to death to Atari and Bioware for a Linux-based NWN 2 client. iD Software, on the other hand, know their stuff, and know their market; Quake 4 and Doom 3 absolutely and natively rock on Linux. Linux-based OSs have proved time and again that they are very worthy gaming platforms
"Many people own PS2s specifically for playing games, and don't do much else with them. is your solution for them, that they don't need a PS2 at all?"
If they want to play games and almost nothing else, yes, they may keep their XP PCs or switch to a platform explicitly dedicated to gaming, such as PS3 or Wii, or the latest XBox. Besides, they say that keeping a console is waay cheaper than a gaming PC, even more so if you keep in mind that a console is good for at the very least 3 years.
And how would you use one [mouse] standing up(...)?
Have you tried using your butt as a mousepad? Heh, the image is just horrible...
Well, there goes my karma going offtopic... But you are entitled to a clarification on why I so vehemently presented my opinion. In the third-world countries, we strive to immitate those who are successful; so far, the most successful country is the United States. There's envy, there is the feeling that we're being explored, yes, true, but then, there is the "apeing", as a verb, what our more successful countries do, in order to try to, perhaps, be more successful ourselves. Political Correctness is one of those traits we, or at least our elites, try to pick up from you, with disastrous results. Please don't take me personally, it's a very different reality, we're in very different worlds, yet our leaders try to apply the exact same solutions as you to marginally, or non-existent, problems over here.
I'm sorry for the harshness in my comment, but give me the fact that Slashdot is a worldwide forum.
Cheers.
Well, I've followed Slashdot closely since the very first day of 2008 (actually, I think I was the first person of my country to post here in the new year), but strangely haven't seen anything about this being the year of the Linux on the desktop. Perhaps we missed the chance when the Eee PC was launched, or KDE 4.0 (which is beautiful, if unpolished) or something. Whatever. I, from the top of my chair under my momma's basement, proclaim:
2008 is the year of the Linux on the desktop!
I see two mistakes in your comment. First, black*, foreign (whatever country you are from; I'm assuming U.S.) and (arguably) gay people are born the way they are; they cannot change that, and even if they could, many, or most, wouldn't. On the other hand, a consumer has the choice to either spend more than he earns in a month (and, believe me, it happens more often than not down here in the Third World) on an item he believes (often correctly) that will give him more social status, or spend half or two-third his monthly wage on something that will be useful to him, running some OS and graphic DE that is at least as beautiful as Apple's.
The second mistake I see is that the Free and/or Open Source (internal feuds do exist; let them sort themselves out) Software fanboys are even more plentiful than Apple ones. Being one of those myself, I think the reason is that we believe in an ideal, fulfilled by the hard work of those seeking recognition among their peers, or money, or plain and simple sense of self-fulfillment. Yes, there are very vocal FOSS fanboys out there, but they are either novices to the belief or prophets of the cult; most of us fall in-between, prowd of our sense of judgement, knowing what is good and what isn't for our families and for our our stranded relative's PHD about-to-be-lost-to-a-virus thesis.
* That PC crap hits my nerves; I'm black, but I was born in Brazil; I'm not a fucking African-American, I'm BLACK, thank you very much! And I wasn't born in a "developing country", I was born and live in an UNDERDEVELOPED country; the notion that we are in a "developing country" has deluded our leaders to think we are "getting there". No country "gets there" when 32 million of its population STARVES.
So, one cannot own nonhuman primates... Human primates are okay to own, though?
Sorry, coldn't resist trying to be funny.
Wikipedia says it's the very same Eee PC 701 4G, only renamed (mine is due to arrive in a few more days, I just can't wait it...)
When I bought the Eee, I was in doubt between it and the Nokia N810. But, for the same price, you get a touch-typable (after getting used to) keyboard and a larger screen, not to mention endless connection possibilities (Ethernet is virtually omnipresent, be you in Manhattan or in a hotel in Kuala-Lumpur). Running Linux natively is a huge boost to me (that's why I didn't even look at HTC offerings).
You must be a HIT at parties!
Holy fuck... Microsoft is really paying people to hang on forums like this...
And I was thinking it was just another conspiracy theory!
Something created by such a "person", you say?