I always thought the argument was that it was a rip off. I've never heard the argument that it was stolen. Two different things... a (bad) imitation vs. putting your name on someone else's work.
One area that is constantly ignored are the grey-area copyrights (where no one knows who owns the copyright because a copyright holder has gone bankrupt) and the stuff in torrents that is not even in print. Trading that stuff doesn't hurt anyone and, as a matter of fact, often gets them noticed again and brought back into print. Has anyone ever heard a greedhead from the *AAs even acknowledge this?
When Doctor Who started up again Demonoid torrents were the only way us USAians could see it *at all*. It probably helped Who and many other BBC shows get their American deals.
There is definitely advantages for content owners here whether they want to admit it or not.
As much as I agree that Obama is part of the problem (he's a huge corporatist, allowing banks to get off the hook like he did) he's running against Romney who will do NOTHING except what corporations one. There is no candidate standing that will curb corporate abuse. It's not a party issue.
I wish I could attribute the quote, but someone said that, as far as us old IT farts are concerned, "the cloud" is just a synonym for "someone else's server."
There are people that know stuff in IT and there are bullshit marketing artists. The latter category are the ones that think "the cloud" is something new. People will put too much data to "the cloud" and get burned and the pendulum will swing back the other way again to local storage.
Just goes to show you that there isn't one pure solution to all problems.
That's a central tenet to detecting bullshit. There is no man made system that can solve all problems. When someone comes at you with the phrase like "the cloud is the perfect solution" then you should detect bullshit.
Nothing is ever going to replace your own local backup copy. Your own local backup copy supplements your online backup copy and vice versa.
I think it is only the top level suit wearing monkeys that think that having something open to homebrew AND it easy for the corporates of the world are totally incompatible items.
This being slashdot I'm sure someone here doesn't agree with this... flame on!
I don't think this is technically right. I could be wrong, but I think NASA doesn't make this footage public domain for the very reason copyleft exists and you bring up in your comment. They don't want people claiming copyright of their work.
The problem is that YouTube is trying to comply with a flawed law. The law is flawed enough that real compliance is impossible, but they are trying to put in enough CYA anyway. When you have a law that is as flawed as the DMCA you are going to have problems....and those problems will generally be a mistake in favor of the corporation's who purchased the law. As Jim Neighbors says, "Surprise, surprise, surprise!"
The point is one of the counterculture persons they hated so much didn't get the credit for coming up with the brilliant solution. The name should come out and history should be corrected.
It's just a shame Nixon isn't still around to see it....
Sorry... this just indicates you are going through life through blinders on.
Right now corporations are fronts for a very elite group of people. They are not representatives of their shareholders. Not in the least. When is the last time a shareholder meeting made a significant difference in the stance of a corporation?
Corporations are significant concentrations of power and the "executive class" use them to get their way.
I know there are a lot of slashdotters love to focus on the so-called "left wing hate," and like to point out the fact that we were wrong when we openly though the Batman shooting was a crazy right-winger reacting to the hate mongering Limbaugh and others were doing the week prior to the release, but the right-wing violence threat is real. There is some really massive violence to come in the future.
Over the weekend the facebook group "Being Liberal" had an image posted by a guy was pointing a gun at the camera threatening to kill all liberals. Right wing media *is* working certain types of people into a frenzy and you can tell it's right wing media because of the claims they are making are outrageous and not echoed anywhere else. Putting the information about Democrats in an easily available form is just asking for trouble.
This goes against the whole slashdot groupthink on this story, but you know what.. I don't care if they are looking at porn or not.
These people are stuck in damn boring situations for long hours and I really don't need or want to know what they do with that time. If they really are using their tech well enough I am guessing a computer would pick up any incoming well before a human could comprend it anyway.
If you think conservatives are civil libertarians then I have no idea what to say to you.
Today's conservatives believe for absolute freedom of corporations that that's it. They have absolutely no care for any other freedoms save MAYBE the 2nd amendment. They don't care about any individuals rights... just whatever gets their corporate buddies a bit more money.
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I always thought the argument was that it was a rip off. I've never heard the argument that it was stolen. Two different things... a (bad) imitation vs. putting your name on someone else's work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Smith
dumbass
*I* am also able to decide that I want a YouTube app and I don't have to let Apple make that decision for me.
I'm glad to be an Android user. I'll stick with that.
One area that is constantly ignored are the grey-area copyrights (where no one knows who owns the copyright because a copyright holder has gone bankrupt) and the stuff in torrents that is not even in print. Trading that stuff doesn't hurt anyone and, as a matter of fact, often gets them noticed again and brought back into print. Has anyone ever heard a greedhead from the *AAs even acknowledge this?
When Doctor Who started up again Demonoid torrents were the only way us USAians could see it *at all*. It probably helped Who and many other BBC shows get their American deals.
There is definitely advantages for content owners here whether they want to admit it or not.
As much as I agree that Obama is part of the problem (he's a huge corporatist, allowing banks to get off the hook like he did) he's running against Romney who will do NOTHING except what corporations one. There is no candidate standing that will curb corporate abuse. It's not a party issue.
I wish I could attribute the quote, but someone said that, as far as us old IT farts are concerned, "the cloud" is just a synonym for "someone else's server."
There are people that know stuff in IT and there are bullshit marketing artists. The latter category are the ones that think "the cloud" is something new. People will put too much data to "the cloud" and get burned and the pendulum will swing back the other way again to local storage.
Just goes to show you that there isn't one pure solution to all problems.
That's a central tenet to detecting bullshit. There is no man made system that can solve all problems. When someone comes at you with the phrase like "the cloud is the perfect solution" then you should detect bullshit.
Nothing is ever going to replace your own local backup copy. Your own local backup copy supplements your online backup copy and vice versa.
I think it is only the top level suit wearing monkeys that think that having something open to homebrew AND it easy for the corporates of the world are totally incompatible items.
This being slashdot I'm sure someone here doesn't agree with this... flame on!
I don't think this is technically right. I could be wrong, but I think NASA doesn't make this footage public domain for the very reason copyleft exists and you bring up in your comment. They don't want people claiming copyright of their work.
The problem is that YouTube is trying to comply with a flawed law. The law is flawed enough that real compliance is impossible, but they are trying to put in enough CYA anyway. When you have a law that is as flawed as the DMCA you are going to have problems. ...and those problems will generally be a mistake in favor of the corporation's who purchased the law. As Jim Neighbors says, "Surprise, surprise, surprise!"
do doubt. That's how the CEOs do it.
I don't think this is utterly pointless.
The point is one of the counterculture persons they hated so much didn't get the credit for coming up with the brilliant solution. The name should come out and history should be corrected.
It's just a shame Nixon isn't still around to see it....
Yeah.. because Republicans *never* harass anyone... right?
Wisconsin....
Sorry... this just indicates you are going through life through blinders on.
Right now corporations are fronts for a very elite group of people. They are not representatives of their shareholders. Not in the least. When is the last time a shareholder meeting made a significant difference in the stance of a corporation?
Corporations are significant concentrations of power and the "executive class" use them to get their way.
I know there are a lot of slashdotters love to focus on the so-called "left wing hate," and like to point out the fact that we were wrong when we openly though the Batman shooting was a crazy right-winger reacting to the hate mongering Limbaugh and others were doing the week prior to the release, but the right-wing violence threat is real. There is some really massive violence to come in the future.
Over the weekend the facebook group "Being Liberal" had an image posted by a guy was pointing a gun at the camera threatening to kill all liberals. Right wing media *is* working certain types of people into a frenzy and you can tell it's right wing media because of the claims they are making are outrageous and not echoed anywhere else. Putting the information about Democrats in an easily available form is just asking for trouble.
I'd like to play global thermonuclear war, Joshua....
This goes against the whole slashdot groupthink on this story, but you know what.. I don't care if they are looking at porn or not.
These people are stuck in damn boring situations for long hours and I really don't need or want to know what they do with that time. If they really are using their tech well enough I am guessing a computer would pick up any incoming well before a human could comprend it anyway.
There might still be dead pilots in space because of accidents in the Soviet space program. It didn't get them to the moon first.
Anyone that thinks we are living in a socialist era isn't worthy of paying attention to... and they need to be bought a dictionary and a history book.
You have to wonder when the hell they will just sell naming rights and be done with it.
He sued because of the BHA thing and got laughed out of court.
I respected Sagan, but that whole episode was douchie.
You can call a pile of shit pumpkin pie but it doesn't make it smell better
If you think conservatives are civil libertarians then I have no idea what to say to you.
Today's conservatives believe for absolute freedom of corporations that that's it. They have absolutely no care for any other freedoms save MAYBE the 2nd amendment. They don't care about any individuals rights... just whatever gets their corporate buddies a bit more money.