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Demonoid Shut By Ukrainian Authorities
hypnosec writes "After a prolonged outage that lasted for nearly a week Demonoid has reportedly been audited and closed down by the Ukrainian law enforcement agency. According to reports the Ukrainian anti-cybercrime police division carried out an investigation of ColoCall – the hosting service provider for Demonoid. Servers were sealed after all the data on the servers was copied. According to ColoCall the servers haven't been seized but, they are not operational any more. The hosting service provider is going to end the agreement with Demonoid. 'Investigators have copied all the information from the Demonoid servers and sealed them.' a manager from ColoCall, wishing to stay anonymous, said."
About time that the Ukraine accepted what most governments of the world have already accepted--that the U.S. is your master and you had goddamn well better do whatever the fuck we tell you to!
Now sit, rollover, and say "We're your bitch!" ....No, SAY IT LOUDER!!
If your shit's not safe in the Ukraine, it's not safe anywhere.
Support the EFF and Creative Commons. The war is coming, and they're supporting you...
Congratulations! It will now take people an additional 3 clicks to find the movie, game or song they want to steal!
Keep up the good work, guys, people will stop making unlicensed digital copies any day now!
There couldn't have been anything illegal on the servers. Also I doubt the authorities paid a license to copy the IP of Demonoid.
OTOH, US Law Enforcement could take a lesson on how to conduct a raid on a datacenter. Go in with a forensic team, isolate, copy, preserve, and leave the shit in place. You don't go in with bolt cutters to cables, wipe out businesses of a dozen other bystanders in the facility, seize stuff for months, or prevent businesses from starting back up.
Torrent plz!
Demonoid was a torrent site, not a storage service.
It's not theft, it's copyright infringement!
You're an idiot. You don't even know what Demonoid was.
As much as I agree that Obama is part of the problem (he's a huge corporatist, allowing banks to get off the hook like he did) he's running against Romney who will do NOTHING except what corporations one. There is no candidate standing that will curb corporate abuse. It's not a party issue.
There is a Ukrainian law enforcement agency? Who knew?
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
You don't actually know what Demonoid is, do you?
I know its been said before.. but I think itd worth saying again..
A lot of stuff on demonoid wasnt in print anymore, and there was a big focus on books/other things that arent readily available anymore.
I think that it brings up a big point that we miss when the whole debate of copyright infringement and pirating the newest movies is brought up in relation to these torrent sites.
These places are in some ways the last place to easily access important parts of the culture of the world.... Is it so important to protect the newest blockbuster films at the cost of so many people losing access to bits of global creative culture that they cant access legally ?
Sad to see this go too. In a few years the Internet will only be a weak shadow of it's former past.
There is no Democrat or Republican candidate standing that will curb corporate abuse.
FTFY.
Third parties don't get enough notice in this nation to be included in such a generalization (which, if all third parties were included, would become false anyway).
A quote I've been trying to spread around: "The only wasted vote, is the one that goes to a Democrat or a Republican."
Here's hoping it catches on...
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they never had malware ads, but they did turn on the ads after being DDOS'd due to the bandwidth bill. Considering that such a thing happened literally in the last two days I can't see why the Ukranians would shut it down that fast or even have the capability to, for that matter.
If it were the U.S. I'd be worried they'd come after the stored user data & put people into indefinite detainment (under NDAA 2012).
My AC stalker: " I personally agree with your posts most of the time, but that won't keep me from modding you troll"
Where is one to get torrents? =[
I know the admins are busy people, but perhaps explaining what Demonoid is and why they'd want to shut it down would be useful. Not everyone knows every website on the internet and their purpose.
today is spelling optional day.
They don't get enough notice because they don't have any actual power and thus business and the rich throwing money at them buys nothing. That'd change if third party candidates got elected. Money and Power corrupt and as a country we've basically decided we are fine with it thanks to the supreme court and citizens united, pacs and super pacs, etc...
Good luck getting any of that reversed when elected politicians eyes are like looney toon cartoon characters with dollar signs rolling and a cash register caching. They won't ever vote to strip themselves of unlimited secret campaign funds and a third party candidate would just take a seat at the trough with the 600+ other pigs.
So, are we comfortable with officially labeling the DDOS from which Demonoid has been suffering these past few days an act of officially-sanctioned vandalism on the part of law enforcement, local or otherwise? Because this is damned coincidental, if not... and should be terrifying to businesses the world over if true.
The country that tolerates you one day can turn against you the next, and you have little or no recourse.
At least in the United States, if you have enough cash you have access to the courts.*
*Pissing of the feds in ways that invoke National Security(TM) are, sadly, excluded. But as far as copyright violations go, any American has as much access to the courts as he has money to pay lawyers. This is not true in some other countries.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
Good luck getting any of that reversed when elected politicians eyes are like looney toon cartoon characters with dollar signs rolling and a cash register caching. They won't ever vote to strip themselves of unlimited secret campaign funds and a third party candidate would just take a seat at the trough with the 600+ other pigs.
Who do you think passed McCain-Feingold before the Supreme Court struck down the provision? It wasn't a referendum.
what corporations one? Was that supposed to be 'want'??
Get torrent sites off the "www". They could still use the internet, just not the www. Torrent sites should only be reachable with a protocol that no browser would ever support.
I think that visibility (thanks to the sites using the www and non-techies using Google) is big part of the problem. It made torrent sites too simple for non-techies to get to and rocketed awareness to the top.
/me admits to knowing.
Why couldn't someone setup a site like Demonoid on Tor, but direct people out to the public internet to actually transfer the torrents? The tracker would exist on the Tor network, but the file sharing would be done on the public network and therefore not saturate the limited bandwidth available via Tor.
Is there something inherent in bittorrent that requires the tracker and the transfer to take place on the same network? Is it so inherent in the application that it could not be separated into two separate components?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93NATO_relations
It's currently on hold because of their current president and parliament, as part of trying to keep Russia from coming unglued at them. However, if their stated intention to join the EU goes through, it's likely they will become a NATO member state (21 of the 27 EU member states are currently members of NATO). Currently, they engage in joint military exercises with NATO.
Viva la Usenet!
You actually believe that if a third party achieved a significant voice in government, that they wouldn't sell out to corporations just as the two main parties have?
Unix is user friendly, it's just selective about who its friends are.
You actually believe that if a third party achieved a significant voice in government, that they wouldn't sell out to corporations just as the two main parties have?
Not necessarily, and FYI, I never said anything to that effect. Learn to read what's written, instead of inferring what you want to think is there.
What about you? Do you actually believe it's better to be a good little wage slave who doesn't challenge the status quo, rather than at least attempt to cast off your shackles?
If not, why bust my balls over pointing out that which has the potential to change the political landscape for the better?
An enigma, wrapped in a riddle, shrouded in bacon and cheese
Demonoid was great for obscure hard to find stuff. TPB is ok if you're looking for mainstream stuff, but Demonoid had hard to find things that were *SEEDED*, unlike TPB where you might find a torrent hard to get anywhere else, but its not seeded.
I know some bring up usenet, but usenet is a cesspool for file sharing. Its been flooded with spam and malware and noobies over the last couple of years thanks to the likes of easynews and giganews etc. The nice thing about TPB or Demonoid is you can read the comments of a file and see what others have experienced before downloading anything. Sure there are text messages you can read/download but its stupidly messy and inconvenient, and all usenet clients for binaries suck. Unison sucks the least but I think torrents are far far easier to use. The only real benefit of usenet is speed and perhaps retention. If you use the premium services you'll easily max out your connection. And if you use the NNTP service instead of a webclient like Easynews has you get 1000+ retention. But I've seen torrents still healthy and alive that far exceed what you get from the premium usenet providers.
If you think Obama, or any member of the democratic party for that matter, is not completely bought and sold to corporate interests, you're a fool. The difference between Republicans and Democrats? There isn't one. Those with a lot of money simply shift where their campaign donations go from election season to election season. Republicans invade countries to fight terrorism, Democrats invade to liberate the oppressed. Does it really matter what the excuse is when the result is the same? If you're voting Democrat or Republican during the next election, YOU are the problem... Not Obama or Romney.
For the users that went to Demonoid, will there be any threat of litigation?
I mean, Ukraine could care less what the US tells them what they need to do, but what if these Government officials got some money from the media companies? I hear Ukrainians earn very little and are easily corruptible. Perhaps it's the money that motivated this sort of action.
If he hadn't been so persistent, or if he'd had an accusation that caused his friends to desert him, he'd be in the same boat though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jackson_Games,_Inc._v._United_States_Secret_Service (raid was in 1990, he won the court case and got his stuff back in 1993 or so).
Unfortunately, it's going to take multiple victims of false allegations who are wealthy enough to fight back and win before courts and society will stand up and shame police into doing the right thing when they are in the wrong. In the meantime, some innocent people will be raided or worse, charged and intimidated into pleading guilty (and lying under oath as they do so!) or will be convicted falsely by a jury.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
Find a country to host these things in that wont bend over to the interests of the USA and its corporations.
The only way a third party will ever get in office is when the electorate starts to give a flying fuck, and if that ever happens (we can dream, right?), some degree of accountability might actually take place.
Then again, considering the majority of the stuff that gets blamed/credited on/to the President is actually the legislative branch, I hold very little hope for the U.S. to do anything but continue its downward spiral towards irrelevancy.
You can do it folks, but you're gonna have to do it 1 congressperson at a time.
People replying to my sig annoy me. That's why I change it all the time.
if you keep saying that they will notice it and kill it to, as an afterthought mind you but they will do it. Usenet would be fairly easy to kill due to it not being as distributed as p2p, i mean i cant fire up google in a tor browser type a hash of my download find 50 usenet groups with the and add them to my peer finding pool like i can with torrents.
what we need is free usenet server system living in a .onion or a torent over tor system
---Saying gnome 3 is better than windows 8 not so much a compliment as it is damning with light praise.
You actually believe that if a third party achieved a significant voice in government, that they wouldn't sell out to corporations just as the two main parties have?
No need to buy them out when you can just do the Beria routine on them and frame them for kiddie porn & child molesting. Scratch Yet Another 3rd Party Politician. Rinse and repeat as necessary, provided the election boards just don't bother to disallow the candidates on the ballot and toss any writeins for them on the grounds that they're not a 'legal candidate'. Remember, most of the election board members are either Republicans or Democrats, very few 3rd Partyers onboard.
Understanding the scope of the problem is the first step on the path to true panic.
Can't you see It all makes perfect sense
Expressed in dollars and cents,
Pounds, shillings and pence
Can't you see
It all makes perfect sense
aaaah Roger Waters... great song... great album also well fitting to place here ;)
sad you think voting is anything but smoke and mirrors to keep the proles busy.
Hell, if voting could change anything anymore, they'd make it illegal. You do realise how many layers are between you and the Powers That Wanna Be?
Understanding the scope of the problem is the first step on the path to true panic.
As a Libertarian, thank you. I live in NH and get a lot of calls from presidential survey companies, "In the upcoming election will you vote for the Republican X or Democrat Y." And I respond with "Neither, I'll be voting for the Libertarian candidate Z" They don't seem to ever like that since the little boxes they use don't have that option. I'll be told, "Sir, that isn't an option" and then I get on my soapbox....
Part of why I became a Libertarian was to have an impact. The phrase "The only wasted vote, is the one that goes to a Democrat or a Republican." really hits home and I'm going to start using that a lot. I have a friend with her PHD in Political Science. I thought voting for anything but X or Y was a waste but she pointed out that anybody who usually votes one way or the other is already a notched vote, it isn't going to change. The 2 big parties need me, so what can they do to get my vote? So by voting and being vocal about how I feel I can get the attention of X and Y and maybe they will change a bit towards my direction. So by acting how I do, I impact both sides. If I am a solid X or a solid Y I'm just in the pile to be counted, not to be courted.
Modest doubt is called the beacon of the wise - William Shakespeare
The EU is already heavily weighted with these states, each of them has their Russian sub-population with loyalties back to Russia. For the sake of the EU I hope they don't ever join the EU or NATO. Russia is trying oldstyle KGB expansion into Europe.
If you look at Kosovo/Serbia as an example, Russia sends Serbians aid, however it drives the trucks over backroad mountain passes so that the EU (who guard the borders to Kosovo) will intercept them. Then it screams 'EU is stopping us giving Serbians aid' in attempts to manipulate media in Serbia.
http://www.rt.com/news/russia-aid-serbia-kosovo-733/
Serbia recently elected a pro-Russian leader who had an awful lot of campaign money behind him and an agenda like 'EU blocks aid, Russia sends aid to Serbians'
Really Putin is a KGB man, he plays long political games. Any state that joins the EU, can't have split loyalties, because Russia will fight when its oil reserves run short. Most likely invade middle Asian states, but also back into Eastern European ones. See South Ossetia as an example. Russian paid the South Ossentian police (thats a foreign countries police force), it armed the rebels, and when South Georgia went in to disarm them, it invaded 'to protect' the locals.
Classic KGB move. We can't have NATO crippled when Putin is running fake elections and invading foreign countries.
The difference between Republicans and Democrats? There isn't one.
Wrong.
The Republicans are obviously big fans of corporatism, and all their followers have bought into their rhetoric about "job creators", and how the ultra-wealthy need tax breaks.
The Democrats make a lot of noise about how they'd like to fix stuff; their speeches sound good to people who aren't in the right wing. But then they never actually bother to DO any of the things they talk about, and when questioned, they blame it all on the Republicans. "The Republicans forced me to sign this bill that helped the corporations/banksters/etc."
You're correct that there's zero difference in actual governance between the two, but there's a world of difference in what they say to their brainwashed voters. It's how they keep up their "divide and conquer" strategy to maintain power.
Drats!
According to torrent freak:
http://torrentfreak.com/demonoid-busted-as-a-gift-to-the-united-states-government-120806/
>>> Shortly after [the DDoS] a hacker break-in occurred, and a few days later came the investigators,” the source added.
Smells like a plant to me.
What if the hacker was someone paid off by a MAFIAA friendly contact, and the hacker was paid to plant malware ads on the servers, just to give Ukrainian authorities an excuse to shut them down?
It's just as devious as hacking someone, planting CP on their computer, and then calling the feds on them.
Which by the way has already happened:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2010/08/disgruntled-brit-plants-child-porn-on-bosss-computer-calls-cops/
So it wouldn't surprise me at ALL if this the malware ad spewing was a black hat contract paid for by someone friendly to US copyright interests.
Sadly, it's theft because the powers that be say it is.
They are not layers, they are flat out barriers.
For what it's worth though, I *did* vote.
Assuming that
A) it doesn't get lost in the shuffle
B) drowned out by sheeple that are drunk on political koolaid
C) doesn't get hacked out during counting by a mitm attack
I plan to have it do something. At least now I have earned the right to bitch if things don't go my way.
*sadface*
http://torrentfreak.com/demonoid-operators-face-criminal-investigation-in-mexico-120807/
More information for the editors.
sad you think voting is anything but smoke and mirrors to keep the proles busy.
Well, personally I feel that the soap, ballot, and jury boxes have all failed us, and thus we are left with but one more box to open in defense of (what's left of) our Liberties.
However, I also tend to get lambasted by Uncle Toms when I posit that particular ideology, so I figured I'd at least make an attempt to appease the status quo.
An enigma, wrapped in a riddle, shrouded in bacon and cheese
Roger Waters = Gak!
And as great as you quote may seem, you should understand that the only wasted vote is the one that goes to something other than a dem or repub. Because of the Electoral College system we have in place, you dreams of a third party president are simply utopian.
Yup, that's exactly what those interested in maintaining the status quo want you to think.
In reality, were a majority of a state's population to vote for a third party, and the electoral candidates for said districts voted otherwise, they would not maintain their positions long.
An enigma, wrapped in a riddle, shrouded in bacon and cheese