Absolutely right, though there are still useful things that could be explained: the types of inputs the algorithm accepts, the range of outputs it can potentially give, the model used, etc. In the '90s researchers experimented with building more scrutable models (like decision trees) using a neural net as the training source, with encouraging results [1], but I think the work languished when neural nets went out of fashion.
More importantly, I think this showcases how opaque learning systems (while potentially powerful) may not be appropriate for circumstances when people need to know *why* the system reached a particular conclusion. Predictive accuracy should not be the only metric of concern when developing a machine learning model; comprehensibility of the decision process also needs to be taken into account.
[1] Craven, M. W. and Shavlik, J. W. (1997). Using neural networks for data mining. Future Generation Computer Systems, 13:211–229.
Re:Not a troll: How many civilians died last time?
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Strike on Iraq
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The last war took place in the desert, while this one will be fought in the streets of Iraqi cities. It's a pretty safe bet that a lot of people are going to lose their lives. This will not be remembered as a proud day in world history.
And of course, don't forget to checkout Dropline GNOME for Slackware. It's a GNOME-based desktop, similar to Ximian GNOME--instead of the plain GNOME packages shipped with slackware, you get an interface that has been tweaked to near-perfection and tons of extras (such as PAM support, allowing normal users to perform "root" tasks such as setting the time and date, and FAM, making Nautilus show up-to-date view of your file system) to make your desktop truely usable. You can learn more at www.dropline.net/gnome.
(And yes, I'm the main Dropline developer, so this is a bit of a plug and should be interpreted as such...)
Also be sure to check out the latest release of Dropline GNOME--it now works with CollegeLinux and adds a beautiful GNOME 2.2-based desktop and XFree86 4.3 to a great base system. Details and downloads can be found at www.dropline.net/gnome.
Slackware packages available tomorrow!
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XFree86 4.3.0 Released
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Just to let you know, Dropline Systems will be releasing Dropline GNOME 2.2.1 on Saturday, March 1st. This will include XFree86 4.3 precompiled for Slackware Linux and Slackware-derived systems such as Vector Linux. Check it out at http://www.dropline.net/gnome.
the real problem is not the concept of current crime, but rather what may be determined a crime in the future. i for one don't want every political rant i post online (or otherwise) stored in a government computer and linked to a chip implanted in my skin, telling them my whereabouts at any given time. can you honestly say that you trust *all* humanity to be in charge of a system like this? simply because you agree with the beliefs of those currently in power doesn't mean a thing--new generations will come along, and a political party may come to power who quickly realizes that a system exists by which then can eliminate their loudest opposition. police states aren't about cracking down on crime, they're about cracking down on dissenting thought.
... about the state the virus is in. is it illegal to distribute the source code to a virus? iirc, a new york court ruled last year that source code was protected by the first ammendment as free speech in a case involving a university posting encryption source code on the web. seems to me that ruling would be a precedant to overturn this law as being unconsititutional...
what's wrong with gnu/linux? linux is merely the kernel (as most everyone here is well aware) while nearly everything else on a standard system is a product of the gnu project. we don't call windows 'win32', although that technically the name of the kernel. it's the entire platform that's important, not simply the core.
heh, honestly, one comment like this it kinda cute. the problem is that trolls tend to travel in packs. large ones. think mongol hordes. that's when the funny stops and it just gets lame.
three informative/funny posts, and the rest just trolls... does anyone else have the sinking suspecion that those pop-up adds on aol are starting to contain links to slashdot?
Slashdot Mirror
Absolutely right, though there are still useful things that could be explained: the types of inputs the algorithm accepts, the range of outputs it can potentially give, the model used, etc. In the '90s researchers experimented with building more scrutable models (like decision trees) using a neural net as the training source, with encouraging results [1], but I think the work languished when neural nets went out of fashion.
More importantly, I think this showcases how opaque learning systems (while potentially powerful) may not be appropriate for circumstances when people need to know *why* the system reached a particular conclusion. Predictive accuracy should not be the only metric of concern when developing a machine learning model; comprehensibility of the decision process also needs to be taken into account.
[1] Craven, M. W. and Shavlik, J. W. (1997). Using neural networks for data mining. Future Generation Computer Systems, 13:211–229.
It should be most folks write or speak a lot better. And you are a dick.
Try "most folks write or speak much better." "A lot better"? Please.
You mean like Metacity does? :)
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ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/metacity/2.
The last war took place in the desert, while this one will be fought in the streets of Iraqi cities. It's a pretty safe bet that a lot of people are going to lose their lives. This will not be remembered as a proud day in world history.
Dropline includes PAM and updates login/shadow/passwd/su utilities to take advantage of all of PAM's goodness :)
And of course, don't forget to checkout Dropline GNOME for Slackware. It's a GNOME-based desktop, similar to Ximian GNOME--instead of the plain GNOME packages shipped with slackware, you get an interface that has been tweaked to near-perfection and tons of extras (such as PAM support, allowing normal users to perform "root" tasks such as setting the time and date, and FAM, making Nautilus show up-to-date view of your file system) to make your desktop truely usable. You can learn more at www.dropline.net/gnome.
(And yes, I'm the main Dropline developer, so this is a bit of a plug and should be interpreted as such...)
Also be sure to check out the latest release of Dropline GNOME--it now works with CollegeLinux and adds a beautiful GNOME 2.2-based desktop and XFree86 4.3 to a great base system. Details and downloads can be found at www.dropline.net/gnome.
Just to let you know, Dropline Systems will be releasing Dropline GNOME 2.2.1 on Saturday, March 1st. This will include XFree86 4.3 precompiled for Slackware Linux and Slackware-derived systems such as Vector Linux. Check it out at http://www.dropline.net/gnome.
the real problem is not the concept of current crime, but rather what may be determined a crime in the future. i for one don't want every political rant i post online (or otherwise) stored in a government computer and linked to a chip implanted in my skin, telling them my whereabouts at any given time. can you honestly say that you trust *all* humanity to be in charge of a system like this? simply because you agree with the beliefs of those currently in power doesn't mean a thing--new generations will come along, and a political party may come to power who quickly realizes that a system exists by which then can eliminate their loudest opposition. police states aren't about cracking down on crime, they're about cracking down on dissenting thought.
how about this story gets reposted? something was wrong with slashdot's servers if only two people commented on such an important issue...
mandrake 8.0 and suse 7.x - just as high a version number as slack, but they're 1/3 as old.
why to i have the suspicion hillary wrote this? :P
... about the state the virus is in. is it illegal to distribute the source code to a virus? iirc, a new york court ruled last year that source code was protected by the first ammendment as free speech in a case involving a university posting encryption source code on the web. seems to me that ruling would be a precedant to overturn this law as being unconsititutional...
you might also want to thank rms. linus wrote the first kernel, but nearly every other system utility on a linux system comes from gnu. plus gnome! :)
rm /etc/motd :)
what's wrong with gnu/linux? linux is merely the kernel (as most everyone here is well aware) while nearly everything else on a standard system is a product of the gnu project. we don't call windows 'win32', although that technically the name of the kernel. it's the entire platform that's important, not simply the core.
heh, honestly, one comment like this it kinda cute. the problem is that trolls tend to travel in packs. large ones. think mongol hordes. that's when the funny stops and it just gets lame.
three informative/funny posts, and the rest just trolls... does anyone else have the sinking suspecion that those pop-up adds on aol are starting to contain links to slashdot?
i'd hazard to guess that the people actaully *cracking* the software (not the ones distributing it) aren't in it for the money...
windows can crash my computer, but i don't *think* that's what it was intended for... does that mean it'll get banned too?
whoever said development kernels were perfect?
i'm an amature recording artist, and i make all of my mp3's freely available through napster. so there. :)
Pagans, it's Pagans... *sigh* :)
;)
Blessed be
hey, i *did* get a shinny new dimm! you must be some kinda psychic or somthing :) happy holidays everyone.
just for the record, pentagrams are celtic, not satanic.