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Linux 2.3.40 released
Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk writes "Linux kernel 2.3.40 has just been released. You can find a description on what's new in it on kernelnotes.org. It's available on one of the ftp.kernel.org and on most mirrors." Remember, this is a development kernel.
I'm not sure about previous relesaes...but I got 2.3.40 earlier this morning, and it seems to have a slightly major bug. Every 15 or so minutes it decides to hose my networking, and requires a reboot to get it going again...for another 15 minutes. Has anyone else noticed this?
Yet Another Minor Kernel Revision
Either that or there are some serious bug patches here.
I'm still waiting for 2.4, at which time I will build my second computer that's exclusively for Linux.
That and XF86 4.0 so i'll be able to play some games on it with relative ease (hopefully)
2) Some kernel.org sites don't seem to have 2.3.40 or even 2.3.39 (I ran across one the other day that only had kernels up to 2.3.28.) How do we know what the latest kernel REALLY is in these circumstances?
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
I'm glad to see rapid progress in the Linux kernel.
Does anyone know when 2.4 will be out for those of us who aren't on the kernel mailing list?
No. You do that if you want to have an sluggish computer with a memory hog of an OS.
Win2K is not a REAL OS. It's a pseudo-OS.
Why is Slashdot reporting on the release of Linux development kernels? Kernel developers and testers already know whats new and when a new releases is out.
The soundblaster 128 was revised on Jan 4, 2000 such that either the PCM recording or playback won't work in any of the 3 sound drivers. Also the gain on the PCM output itself is set too high, resulting in clipping at all levels. No control on the mixer has any effect on this.
Feeding time for the trolls already? I must have overslept.
Bill Gates: "Innovation"
Which service pack is the final version? Will it run my Linux apps? If not why would I switch? I've got thousands of apps now. Until Microsoft wakes up a ships a product capable of running standard Linux apps thier products are only usefull for games. Microsoft equals a game company right now. Maybe some time in the future they will be able to compete with Linux but I doubt it.
Linux is the biggest proof that Open Source works, it is pretty much leading Open source.
The latest example of GPLed software solutions is The Great AIP (Artificial Intelligence Project)
last I saw the stuff from creative.com opensource site broke around 2.3.37 Anyone know when it's gonna be brought into 2.3?
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ ubb/Forum22/HTML/000159.html I had initially suggested that entrants ante their /etc/passwd, winner take all, but Sensei had a better idea: the person who guesses the correct date wins a Linuxnewbie t-shirt.
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ ubb/Forum22/HTML/000166.html
That thread shows what dates are still available. Most of February and March are booked.
Kentucky Fried Chicken is going to sue Linus and everyone associated with linux for using the word Kernel...It is too close to the word Colonel which is their mascot.
On my buddies Rev 7 Creative 128 board, installing ALSA seemed to get sound working great.
Yeah, it's just so sluggish that it consistently kicks Linux's ass in benchmarks. Too bad your toy OS isn't as "sluggish."
i would like to see only those comments with a score LESS than 3 is this possible? im tired of all the ass kissing 5-rated posts.. and the -1 are hilarious.
this appears to be the first kernel to support ieee1394/firewire... someone try it out and let us know how it works.
later,
ian
Shouldnt we get a freeze on this soon and move on? :)
;)
.40+ is starting to sound stupid
Just installed 2.2.14 on my pIII and I have no need for anything more, but still......... have to try
I thought there was a consensus that it was far better to let other sites post news about new kernel, especially for development kernels.
Does this kernel have some exceptional new thing integrated beside his number (Oh yes, we have reached the 40th release of 2.3 WHAT A NEWS) to justify to be posted??? Is it the first kernel of a new serie (like 2.2.0 or 2.3.0?)??? Does it fix a big bug??? No, then don't post it.
Those that are interested by cutting edge kernels know where to find them, those that are not able to find it by themselves probably aren't able to cope with the possible problems that may arise from a development kernel.
(this is not meant as a flamebait but
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers." Bill Gates,
Never ever download version x.0 of anything! Just ask the AOL 5.0 users to see one reason why.
Yes. ALSA produces the same clipping quite nicely.
You must be a programmer that writes benchmark progies - I can tell:)
Last time I heard the minimum RAM requirement for W2k was 128MB, whether its truth or not - I still haven't stopped laughing!
Thats nice, but when will the CDROM devices be writable?
Oh, wait, they don't do that do they. They try to force end users to make all sorts of promises in their EULA while they "disclaim" any warranty, fitness for any purpose, responsibility for data loss, yada yada yada. And you expect anyone with a brain to trust new software released under these conditions? While Linux doesn't gurantee anything either, I simply wait and watch the poor saps eager to die. After peer review and the dust of "service packs" settles down and enough time elapses without reports of fuckups, only then will I upgrade.
2.3.40 is rock solid, I guess I should turn on some alien features then :)
too many roblimo, jonkatz, obituaries and other useless junk that i miss the good stuff i used to come here for.
i think the main page has more noise than the comments.
any other opinions on this?
For anybody running laptops, the big deal with the more recent 2.3 kernels is the built-in PCMCIA support. In the 2.2 series if you want to configure your kernel at all you have to get not only the kernel source but the (big) PCMCIA patch and compile it separately, and there's a somewhat intimidating series of questions you have to answer in the config. It's anything but seamless, and you have to mess around with it every time you upgrade the kernel. In 2.3 it's just one more checkbox item in make xconfig. :-) Progress marches on.
Life's a bitch but somebody's gotta do it.
You'll know Windows 2000 Professional is right for you if:
you count on a reliable and secure system to keep your company running
you want to know your business data is secure
I guess that means they are admitting that 98 isn't reliable or secure. It's nice when the people selling your product talk this way about you-)
someone is having a problem with Linux! haha, that's funny, everyone knows linux is perfict. so it must be "emulating" NT...
It doesn't look like anything really major; just a driver update here, a driver update there. Progress as usual...
David E. Weekly (dew, Think)
David E. Weekly
Code / Think / Teach / Learn
h4x0r for
It doesn't list the pre patches with authority because frankly nobody can be sure. There have been cases of as many as 3 official patches in a single day but pre patches are much more frequent ( usually 3 to 7 per official patch ).
At that rate it's theoretically possible to have over a dozen pre patches in a day. Worse yet there are people other than Linus putting pre patches out, then there are the AC patches.
--= Isn't it surprising how badly I spell ?
-jwb
So stop announcing software updates!
Also, kernel org has explicitly asked that people STOP making links to ftp.kernel.org and insted make links to the mirrors.
A friend is running a bunch of firewire hard drives on his mac -- he does a lot of video capture and is constantly filling up his drives. He just yanks one out and puts another in, and they're more than fast enough for his purposes. I'd mention the company names if I could remember them.
"If one is really a superior person, the fact is likely to leak out without too much assistance" -- John Andrew Holmes
I didn't see any Natalie Portman references in there :)
and that they won't do it again, because this can only cause confusion to newbies and loss of time to the kernel developers.
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers." Bill Gates,
I can't seem to pass a kernel parameter in latest kernels to set the 3dfx fb device to a certain resolution, like video=matrox:blah...
I tried tdfx, 3dfx, 3Dfx and a couple others, it just doesn't seem to know about it.
If this feature's missing, how do I hack it in ?
I love freebsd. You dont get kernels thrown at you everyday (unless you track current of course).
I got fed up with Linux.
FreeBSD Rules!
See how dumb you sound?
How long did it take before 2.2.1 came out, less than two days? LOL
Linux hype is what attracts investors' billions these days, so it's important for everyone to pretend their business is "all about Linux".
Learn to read; that stupid page hasn't been updated in ages. Thats the changelog for .36
They will promise anything if you are going if you have a large enough install-base. You want the sun, well they will give it to you if you buy 100 site license.
Well, being fair it should pointed out that a open source software usually does not come if any warranty or promise of reliability. My window manager (sawmill) says that it is intended to be useful but has no warranty or implied warranty. I could find other examples but I am lazy.
When is 2.4 due to be released? Is it true that 2.3 is still highly unstable?
2.3 is still extremely buggy for me with ATA66 and Abit BP6.
We still have a ways to go. But maybe things will get locked down fast.......
Now this just doesn't make any sense to me. The development kernel must be as stable as it can possibly be made before it becomes a stable kernel. I take pride in that when a Linux kernel is released as stable, it really is stable. If the kernel were to be released before it were ready just so we could "move on" Linux would end up being just like any number of commercial products: released before it's fully ready.
Chris Hagar
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." - Thomas Jefferson
Minor development versions are released almost weekly... Is there anything special about 2.3.40, or will /. from now on announce every minor development release? Let's hope so, at least for the sake of consistancy and integrity (which would be a welcome new feature of slashdots ;).
"Oppression and harassment is a small price to pay to live in the land of the free." -- Montgomery Burns.
Not everybody follows every latest release of the kernel, but some people like to follow the general progress. When Slashdot posts a story about a new kernel version once in a while it helps people (like me!) keep up with the general progress of the project without being obsessed by it.
As to complaints of "Go To Freshmeat!" my point is that some people don't want to rabidly follow every release of software, they just want a general feeling for the situation.
After all, does your life end when Slashdot posts a story about something you already know or is not relvent to you personally?
Maybe Slashdot needs a filter for kernel release posts, similar to the ones for filtering various authors.
Hello Dudes,
The hackers at Linux USB Visor has managed to get Visor to sync over USB in Linux 2.3.40. They managed to do this with a few extra patches (Which you can get from that site) and help from a freebsd dude. Freebsd dudes hop over there to find out how they did it as well..
Enjoy syncing the Visor on USB!
Long live the kernel!
--
They have full Handspring support.
What I would really like to have is the ability to tailor my reading of each score level independently. That way I could say, see the -1 trolls and the ACs, as well as stuff that got moderated to 2 through 4, while skipping all the posts rated at 1 or 5. That way I can read the stuff I find funny, and yet get the better opinions all in one swell foop. I don't know how big of a pain this would be to implement, though.
... then search for "Score:3", or just use page down.
perl -e 'fork||print for split//,"hahahaha"'
>[...] debian's method where you have no clue what's happening ...
I've never found that to be a problem. Either you set your system to track "stable", in which case you get a major upgrade about once a year, or you set it to track "unstable" or "frozen", in which case everything updates very often but might be broken once in a while.
If they make the proposed changes to de-emphasise the importance of "releases", then it'll be more like FreeBSD's method.
perl -e 'fork||print for split//,"hahahaha"'
(Because it is.)
:)
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
0) An OS should be seen as a development process, and not a snapshot of the code produced by that process at any one time.
1) A "real OS" is a development process which behaves as if the OS market will have perfect information about any code snapshots which are released. This usually means a development process which aims to publicise and address any quirks of the code snapshot which might be of concern to a user. Microsoft operating systems have always failed this test because known bugs are kept secret and Microsoft's strategy for future development is typically concealed from the market, causing users to invest in software which MS then dead-ends.
2) Send the $20 to the FSF, please.
[root@sambaserver cdr]# /sbin/modprobe ide-cd /sbin/modprobe ide-scsi /sbin/modprobe loop /sbin/modprobe scsi_mod /sbin/modprobe sr_mod /sbin/modprobe sg /opt/schily/bin/cdrecord -scanbus
[root@sambaserver cdr]#
[root@sambaserver cdr]#
[root@sambaserver cdr]#
[root@sambaserver cdr]#
[root@sambaserver cdr]#
[root@sambaserver cdr]#
Cdrecord 1.8a40 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 Jörg Schilling
/opt/schily/bin/cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver.
I know my cdr works, it has worked before...(mitsumi 2x)
get a brain!
Linux 2.4, XFree 4.0, ext3fs, KDE2.
...
Kind of like brownies right out of the oven- they need to cool off but I want it now! With the release of these four software packages Linux is going to have a great showdown with Windows 2000 on the desktop.
Well I guess I should stop typing and start downloading/compiling
Linux: Long live the source code.
crap! I had to change all my masquerading when going from 2.0->2.2, & now we have to do it again?
focus people!
root@sambaserver cdr]# /sbin/modprobe ide-cd /sbin/modprobe ide-scsi /sbin/modprobe loop /sbin/modprobe scsi_mod /sbin/modprobe sr_mod /sbin/modprobe sg /opt/schily/bin/cdrecord -scanbus
/opt/schily/bin/cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[root@sambaserver cdr]#
[root@sambaserver cdr]#
[root@sambaserver cdr]#
[root@sambaserver cdr]#
[root@sambaserver cdr]#
[root@sambaserver cdr]#
Cdrecord 1.8a40 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 Jörg Schilling
I know my cdr works, it has worked before...(mitsumi 2x)
The subject says it all. ... 1-2 years back when .. stable ones are OK .. but let's face it.
I seem to recall about
a lot of peeps were complaining about slashdot telling everybody about a devel. linux-kernel.
Sure, ok
Development Kernels aren't for the faint@heart.
We have had sever problems running linux and 2.2.x kernels with the 820 chipset. (We had problems running Windows NT as well. but We coult get NT to work) We where able to get linux running with other 'non-standard' memory without any problems at all but the 820 chipset caused lots of problems. We where unable to get linux to get to the console without locking up or erroring out. Is there anything in the newer 2.3.40 kernel that would fix this problem? (or is it something we missed in 2.2)
I don't agree, this story and thread was more interesting to me than 90% of articles on slashdot nowadays.
Also I've been running 2.3.39 and 40 for a while with only a slight compiling problem (isapnp).
Whats the difference between The reail version of Caldera Openlinux 2.3 and the one in the book Caldera OpenLinux 2.3 Unleashed?
I know the differences in the red hat distro but not this one, Thank You.
Every once in a while it is good to get some idea of the state of progress.
You also get a bunch of semi-clueless newbies (like me) who need some kind of feel for what's going on.
try that for a change