Well as far as your fourth point about the PVR, it's a software license, and the software is open. Why should they open their hardware? You're free and open to make or emulate your own.
Under GPL2, you've got the source code available, like tivo or the gp's soduko game. What more do you want? You can't seriously want to be able to reprogram it on your tivo or phone. I don't see the issue, you buy a tivo, it works, the source is available, how is it violating the spirit of the GPL?
Security affects users far more than it affects the company providing the tools. From this perspective, there are far more legitimate users trying to secure their systems from attack than there are than illegitimate ones trying to exploit them. If bank robbers want to get exploits from this site, they will need credentials far exceeding what the black market requires. Face it, the bank robbers laugh at these 'zero day' vulnerabilities, they are last weeks or last months vulnerabilities. An open and forthright exchange for these insecurities is needed not to legitimize fraudsters but to expose and destroy their monopoly on exploits. Computer security is still immature, and seems not to learn the lessons of physical security well. Security through obscurity was debunked for physical locks over a century ago, yet we continue to repeat the mistakes of the past.
Two wikipedia links, and a link to an Australian radio report from an American source. Now you have to listen to the fucking article. Slashdot editors take note: oh who am I kidding... anyway a wikipedia article is not news, or stuff that matters. We want to read an article, not listen to the fucking thing.
Time to coin another useless acronym. Where's The Fucking Article!
There is nothing I can think of that is illegal about not immediately disclosing any security vulnerability a professional researcher or basement dwelling hacker stumbles across. There is also nothing illegal about providing exploit riddled software according to licenses I've read. What is illegal is robbing peoples bank accounts. I'm fairly sure that these guys aren't planning to keep the best hacks undisclosed while they rob banks (though it would be an interesting twist). I'm fairly sure they will be able to track the dissemination of these exploits far better than the existing markets.
Researching security holes should be a legitimate and profitable R&D investment, and should be done in an up front manner such as this rather than via the black market where your dire vision already thrives.
IANAL, but I don't think there's anything stopping you from doing exactly as you are doing but changing the copyright notice to an expression of its public domain status. You still have the right to charge for your version of the works.
SGIs Standard Template Library is always memorable to me as being written in a concise, pragmatic and elegant way. It's the sort of code that is self-explanatory, requiring very little comments. Sorry it's not a larger project, but it left quite an impression on me when I first went through it all those years ago.
Shouldn't many eyes make all cruft shallow? As noted by a sibling, it seems arbitrary deadlines are the real cause of cruft, not just the number of coders. Also, the code by 1 programmer will only be cruftless to him. Others will see other ways to approach problems, and consider the firsts methods cruft. So how about, cruft is in the eye of the beholder?
90 years ago... 1917. That concludes it. I now have all the proof I need of a Grand Tentacle conspiracy.
Just think of all those war movies and docos, why did they have all that barbed wire and defensive guns on the beaches? Why did the British navy suddenly collapse to these 'submarines'? All those narrow trenches, wide enough for men but too narrow for an 8-metre squid? Why did we need giant tanks to replace cavalry (hint - look at a giant squid next to a horse).
The great question remains, why was this covered up? Is it, in fact because Chthulu won that war, and all humanity is now just slaves in his vast tentacled reign of horror? You be the judge.
Look, it was flamebait, if you can't see why I'll explain. Note, I didn't mod you, but here's how I saw your comment.
Firstly, this project has nothing to do with water supplies or diarrhea. The fact it doesn't save children from these horrors has nothing to do at all with the design or intent of the OLPC. You created what is known as a strawman argument, arguing that the OLPC is useless because it doesn't do something it was never intended to do. Strawmen arguments are logically flawed reasoning and as such are often used as flamebait.
Your second point shows you are fundamentally ignorant of the OLPC and its aims, which doesn't really help your stance at all. If it was a genuine question, it was worded in a rather terse and abrasive manner, again it read like a flame. The answer is of course yes, they are well aware that electricity supplies in 3rd world countries are sporadic and sparse, as anyone spending a little time thinking about this project would gather.
If you had a genuine question, perhaps just ask it instead of trying to insult that which you don't understand.
Yeah, and I call mine MS/Linux because my copy would be useless without the fat32 drivers. Sure, MS didn't make the drivers, but they do own their name. Sorta like how the FSF didn't make the tools, but they own the label. Well, ok, that was highly contrived, but in essence I find something wrong with 'free, open' meaning 'you are a hypocrite if you don't put our label before yours'.
Really, they've had that sorta stuff down for over a decade, since they were competing with Lotus Domino etc. It's not Web 3.0, its standard enterprise tools. It seems TBL is trying to encourage some sort of intelligent copy/paste function that dumps into some sort of all purpose aggregator or something, it's hard to tell. Still, he's the first person I've heard using the 2.0 and 3.0 metaphors in any sensible way, so that's something.
He acts like he owns the place or something, not content to just be a part of a global phenomenon.. I kid, I kid, he's far too humble a genius and should be installed as the global overlord, pronto!
I know that I for one have never been affected by these influences until Facebook came along. It's not like it's just a normal part of peer group dynamics or anything, it's completely new!
I'm a drinker, a smoker, a midnight toker. There are much more deadly things in our world than the little pleasures we afford ourselves, so what if they are addictive, what isn't? I'm addicted to many ideas and concepts that I don't consider a hinderance, what's a cone or cigar or whiskey every night?
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Perhaps the people of Iraq should have tried to invade Europe, Asia and Africa before deserving such treatment?
Skynet and the army of drones of course.
The geeks will love Dr. Karl and the other science shows, like his recent call-in show with Sir Roger Penrose and Dr Kip Thorne (links to mp3).
Now if you'll don't mind, I'll haven't quite grasped what Demi-God you refer to, he'll isn't going to be that Jovian named Jupiter you'll shan't say?
Either way, it isn't they're spreading FUD as much as they isn't aren't not doing it.
F'ck it'll get boring doin' this, I'm splittin'
Well as far as your fourth point about the PVR, it's a software license, and the software is open. Why should they open their hardware? You're free and open to make or emulate your own.
All it goes to show is statistics are meaningless on an individual level.
Under GPL2, you've got the source code available, like tivo or the gp's soduko game. What more do you want? You can't seriously want to be able to reprogram it on your tivo or phone. I don't see the issue, you buy a tivo, it works, the source is available, how is it violating the spirit of the GPL?
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Security affects users far more than it affects the company providing the tools. From this perspective, there are far more legitimate users trying to secure their systems from attack than there are than illegitimate ones trying to exploit them. If bank robbers want to get exploits from this site, they will need credentials far exceeding what the black market requires. Face it, the bank robbers laugh at these 'zero day' vulnerabilities, they are last weeks or last months vulnerabilities. An open and forthright exchange for these insecurities is needed not to legitimize fraudsters but to expose and destroy their monopoly on exploits. Computer security is still immature, and seems not to learn the lessons of physical security well. Security through obscurity was debunked for physical locks over a century ago, yet we continue to repeat the mistakes of the past.
Dammit! There's three fucking wikipedia links.. This story deserves better treatment.
Time to coin another useless acronym. Where's The Fucking Article!
So, how many metres long is a unit of time?
Researching security holes should be a legitimate and profitable R&D investment, and should be done in an up front manner such as this rather than via the black market where your dire vision already thrives.
IANAL, but I don't think there's anything stopping you from doing exactly as you are doing but changing the copyright notice to an expression of its public domain status. You still have the right to charge for your version of the works.
That sounds all well and good until you realise that 'txting' will in fact become the dominant method of recording written words. I fear for humanity.
SGIs Standard Template Library is always memorable to me as being written in a concise, pragmatic and elegant way. It's the sort of code that is self-explanatory, requiring very little comments. Sorry it's not a larger project, but it left quite an impression on me when I first went through it all those years ago.
Shouldn't many eyes make all cruft shallow? As noted by a sibling, it seems arbitrary deadlines are the real cause of cruft, not just the number of coders. Also, the code by 1 programmer will only be cruftless to him. Others will see other ways to approach problems, and consider the firsts methods cruft. So how about, cruft is in the eye of the beholder?
90 years ago... 1917. That concludes it. I now have all the proof I need of a Grand Tentacle conspiracy.
Just think of all those war movies and docos, why did they have all that barbed wire and defensive guns on the beaches? Why did the British navy suddenly collapse to these 'submarines'? All those narrow trenches, wide enough for men but too narrow for an 8-metre squid? Why did we need giant tanks to replace cavalry (hint - look at a giant squid next to a horse).
The great question remains, why was this covered up? Is it, in fact because Chthulu won that war, and all humanity is now just slaves in his vast tentacled reign of horror? You be the judge.
Firstly, this project has nothing to do with water supplies or diarrhea. The fact it doesn't save children from these horrors has nothing to do at all with the design or intent of the OLPC. You created what is known as a strawman argument, arguing that the OLPC is useless because it doesn't do something it was never intended to do. Strawmen arguments are logically flawed reasoning and as such are often used as flamebait.
Your second point shows you are fundamentally ignorant of the OLPC and its aims, which doesn't really help your stance at all. If it was a genuine question, it was worded in a rather terse and abrasive manner, again it read like a flame. The answer is of course yes, they are well aware that electricity supplies in 3rd world countries are sporadic and sparse, as anyone spending a little time thinking about this project would gather.
If you had a genuine question, perhaps just ask it instead of trying to insult that which you don't understand.
Yeah, and I call mine MS/Linux because my copy would be useless without the fat32 drivers. Sure, MS didn't make the drivers, but they do own their name. Sorta like how the FSF didn't make the tools, but they own the label. Well, ok, that was highly contrived, but in essence I find something wrong with 'free, open' meaning 'you are a hypocrite if you don't put our label before yours'.
If you do manage to leak secrets though, SNIPER is the one to watch out for.
Really, they've had that sorta stuff down for over a decade, since they were competing with Lotus Domino etc. It's not Web 3.0, its standard enterprise tools. It seems TBL is trying to encourage some sort of intelligent copy/paste function that dumps into some sort of all purpose aggregator or something, it's hard to tell. Still, he's the first person I've heard using the 2.0 and 3.0 metaphors in any sensible way, so that's something.
He acts like he owns the place or something, not content to just be a part of a global phenomenon.. I kid, I kid, he's far too humble a genius and should be installed as the global overlord, pronto!
I know that I for one have never been affected by these influences until Facebook came along. It's not like it's just a normal part of peer group dynamics or anything, it's completely new!
I'm a drinker, a smoker, a midnight toker. There are much more deadly things in our world than the little pleasures we afford ourselves, so what if they are addictive, what isn't? I'm addicted to many ideas and concepts that I don't consider a hinderance, what's a cone or cigar or whiskey every night?