You answered 1 minute after I decided to answer properly. I didn't think this post would be seen as insightful like that so I didn't bother to give a proper reply at first. See my reply. http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1547892&cid=31115280
I am anonymous from time to time and I even post on "chans" when I feel like it. Who is that guy speaking for me? See my point? Anonymous doesn't exist.
Taiwan officially is part of China. The US is part of a minority that recognizes Taiwan's sovereignty. Also, the US are selling weapons to Taiwan so it could be seen as provocation. If the US decides not to pay its debt to China, everyone would see that the US is not a safe place to invest. The US dollar would plummet.
Well it might or might not be true. That's the point of propaganda. This news is also being revealed while the USA and China are being pissed at each others over Taiwan. It might be a coincidence, but it sure is a useful coincidence.
Boring? Speak for yourself. I would be able to travel the world as a rich and healthy hobo. Never sleeping at the same place twice! That would be the perfect life for me. I guess it depends on each person's goals.
Oh, yes yes... It was important to the formation of modern psychology. I simply didn't like "Freudian psychology". It makes people think it is psychology while it is in fact psychoanalysis. Since alchemy is not a part of chemistry, I used that in my earlier reply to make that point.
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The problem is that some people still believe in psychoanalysis and it is still being taught in certain classes as science while psychoanalysis can't be tested.
For example, how can you test if the Oedipus complex is real or not in kids? Well, if you see a 5yo boy competing with his father for the attention of his mother, a psychoanalyst would say it's a good proof. On the other hand, if the boy would go towards his father, instead of disproving the whole thing, the psychoanalyst would say: "Oh, well, he clearly is repressing the whole thing".
You can't disprove psychoanalysis and yet it is still popular with the public and it is also why many think psychology is not serious.
If 4chan dies, there will be plenty of alternatives out there that will take its place. So don't be fearful of the corporations. They are always too slow to adapt.
As long as people use it to improve their understanding and not to officially communicate with others, I have no problem with that. It can be somewhat offensive to receive papers that are badly translated. If you want to communicate or sell me something, at least try to learn my language instead of faking it with computer translators. You should see the ridiculous English to French translations sometimes...
The lack of interest in learning other languages can and will lead to embarrassing situations...
I have always thought that Tim Berners-Lee, inventor of the World-Wide-Web, is deserving of a Peace Prize.[...] Awarding the Peace Prize to a thing? Ugh. Don't get me started. Awarding the Prize to organizations is silly enough already.
Tom: Uh, how'd you solve the door dilemma?
Buzz: Homer Simpson was the real hero here. He jury-rigged the door
closed using this.
Your second language should be for utility, but after that it's up to you. Many languages have interesting cultures and if you want to connect with them you have to learn the language.
3) Try to live as much as possible in the language studied. Listen to music in that language, TV shows, movies, etc.
4) Make friends on a website like http://lang-8.com/ where the goal is learn new languages. If you want to learn French, French people will correct you and speak with you over Skype and you do the same by helping them learn English.
Except that if you allow the language to evolve, eventually you will have new languages everywhere. Forcing people to write and speak in a certain way limits the creation of new variants based on the English language. A bit like how Latin became Romanian, Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, and a lot of other smaller languages like Sicilian.
Just in case I wasn't that clear. The ideogrammatic system might say, for example, that &?& = Dog. So, independently of the language you speak in China, &?& means dog. With a phonetic system you would have three different words and nobody would understand each other.
All right. Fair comment. A phonetic system is definitely much quicker and brings a higher level of literacy sooner than an ideogrammatic system.
However, the Chinese speak three mutually unintelligible languages--Cantonese, Mandarin, and Manchu--but they all use the same characters. In addition, there are numerous minority languages in China that have adopted the characters. Enabling everyone to be able to communicate with each other through the written language is no small feat.
With a phonetic system, they would have a lot of difficulties communicating between themselves. Maybe once mandarin is used unequivocally by all of their people, they'll be able to adopt hanyu pinyin.
For now, they are a challenge to learn and a beauty to behold.
Oh wow, you are trolling, yet opening a very interesting subject. I'm in!
Chinese characters do not unambiguously indicate their pronunciation, even for any single dialect. It is therefore useful to be able to transliterate a dialect of Chinese into the Latin alphabet, for those who cannot read Chinese characters. However, transliteration was not always considered merely a way to record the sounds of any particular dialect of Chinese; it was once also considered a potential replacement for the Chinese characters. This was first prominently proposed during the May Fourth Movement, and it gained further support with the victory of the Communists in 1949. Immediately afterward, the mainland government began two parallel programs relating to written Chinese. One was the development of an alphabetic script for Mandarin, which was spoken by about two-thirds of the Chinese population; the other was the simplification of the traditional characters—a process that would eventually lead to simplified Chinese. The latter was not viewed as an impediment to the former; rather, it would ease the transition toward the exclusive use of an alphabetic (or at least phonetic) script.
By 1958, however, priority was given officially to simplified Chinese; a phonetic script, hanyu pinyin, had been developed, but its deployment to the exclusion of simplified characters was pushed off to some distant future date. The association between pinyin and Mandarin, as opposed to other dialects, may have contributed to this deferment. It seems unlikely that pinyin will supplant Chinese characters anytime soon as the sole means of representing Chinese.
So, they once wanted to modernize everything and emulate the westerners, but now they want to protect their own identity and culture. Their way of writing is not worse or better, it is simply different and based on other principles.
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Except that you'd bypass the central government and that by definition it's the central government that manages the army.
Selling weapons to the Talibans is not the same as selling weapons to the Afghan government.
You answered 1 minute after I decided to answer properly. I didn't think this post would be seen as insightful like that so I didn't bother to give a proper reply at first. See my reply. http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1547892&cid=31115280
Well, since everyone loved your comment, let me clarify with more words.
A nobody commented and used "Anonymous" as a way to get attention. He could have said Al-Qaeda and it would have been the same.
In this particular case, since only ONE person commented using a nonexistent group to get attention, this really is a non-story.
I told it to myself. Now what?
I am anonymous from time to time and I even post on "chans" when I feel like it. Who is that guy speaking for me? See my point? Anonymous doesn't exist.
Woooosh right back at you. That was my point.
"An individual (who insisted he or she is not a spokesperson for the group)"
So, basically, a nobody commented.
All right.
I am Canadian and so I say the Canadian government disapproves too. Though I insist I'm not speaking in the name of the Canadian government.
Yay?
Taiwan officially is part of China. The US is part of a minority that recognizes Taiwan's sovereignty. Also, the US are selling weapons to Taiwan so it could be seen as provocation. If the US decides not to pay its debt to China, everyone would see that the US is not a safe place to invest. The US dollar would plummet.
Well it might or might not be true. That's the point of propaganda. This news is also being revealed while the USA and China are being pissed at each others over Taiwan. It might be a coincidence, but it sure is a useful coincidence.
You are insulting people who actually build things instead of destroying other people's work.
Sometimes it's fun to destroy things in order to learn how they work.
Boring? Speak for yourself. I would be able to travel the world as a rich and healthy hobo. Never sleeping at the same place twice! That would be the perfect life for me. I guess it depends on each person's goals.
I think this is becoming a reality with the current news about Taiwan. Check this: http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/insidestory/2010/02/201021125330175987.html
Oh, yes yes... It was important to the formation of modern psychology. I simply didn't like "Freudian psychology". It makes people think it is psychology while it is in fact psychoanalysis. Since alchemy is not a part of chemistry, I used that in my earlier reply to make that point.
The problem is that some people still believe in psychoanalysis and it is still being taught in certain classes as science while psychoanalysis can't be tested.
For example, how can you test if the Oedipus complex is real or not in kids? Well, if you see a 5yo boy competing with his father for the attention of his mother, a psychoanalyst would say it's a good proof. On the other hand, if the boy would go towards his father, instead of disproving the whole thing, the psychoanalyst would say: "Oh, well, he clearly is repressing the whole thing".
You can't disprove psychoanalysis and yet it is still popular with the public and it is also why many think psychology is not serious.
Please, Freud has as much to do with psychology as alchemists have with chemists.
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As long as people use it to improve their understanding and not to officially communicate with others, I have no problem with that. It can be somewhat offensive to receive papers that are badly translated. If you want to communicate or sell me something, at least try to learn my language instead of faking it with computer translators. You should see the ridiculous English to French translations sometimes...
The lack of interest in learning other languages can and will lead to embarrassing situations...
http://entertainment.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/02/2148231&from=rss
I have always thought that Tim Berners-Lee, inventor of the World-Wide-Web, is deserving of a Peace Prize.[...] Awarding the Peace Prize to a thing? Ugh. Don't get me started. Awarding the Prize to organizations is silly enough already.
Tom: Uh, how'd you solve the door dilemma?
Buzz: Homer Simpson was the real hero here. He jury-rigged the door closed using this.
Man 1: Hey, what is that?
Man 2: It's an inanimate carbon rod!
Everyone: Yay!
[Time magazine cover: "In Rod We Trust"]
Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm!
Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, dear.
Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
Your second language should be for utility, but after that it's up to you. Many languages have interesting cultures and if you want to connect with them you have to learn the language.
1) Go to http://fsi-language-courses.org/Content.php and get the free classes you want.
2) Study words using a free software like http://ichi2.net/anki/
3) Try to live as much as possible in the language studied. Listen to music in that language, TV shows, movies, etc.
4) Make friends on a website like http://lang-8.com/ where the goal is learn new languages. If you want to learn French, French people will correct you and speak with you over Skype and you do the same by helping them learn English.
Have fun!
Except that if you allow the language to evolve, eventually you will have new languages everywhere. Forcing people to write and speak in a certain way limits the creation of new variants based on the English language. A bit like how Latin became Romanian, Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, and a lot of other smaller languages like Sicilian.
Just in case I wasn't that clear. The ideogrammatic system might say, for example, that &?& = Dog. So, independently of the language you speak in China, &?& means dog. With a phonetic system you would have three different words and nobody would understand each other.
All right. Fair comment. A phonetic system is definitely much quicker and brings a higher level of literacy sooner than an ideogrammatic system.
However, the Chinese speak three mutually unintelligible languages--Cantonese, Mandarin, and Manchu--but they all use the same characters. In addition, there are numerous minority languages in China that have adopted the characters. Enabling everyone to be able to communicate with each other through the written language is no small feat.
With a phonetic system, they would have a lot of difficulties communicating between themselves. Maybe once mandarin is used unequivocally by all of their people, they'll be able to adopt hanyu pinyin.
For now, they are a challenge to learn and a beauty to behold.
Oh wow, you are trolling, yet opening a very interesting subject. I'm in!
Chinese characters do not unambiguously indicate their pronunciation, even for any single dialect. It is therefore useful to be able to transliterate a dialect of Chinese into the Latin alphabet, for those who cannot read Chinese characters. However, transliteration was not always considered merely a way to record the sounds of any particular dialect of Chinese; it was once also considered a potential replacement for the Chinese characters. This was first prominently proposed during the May Fourth Movement, and it gained further support with the victory of the Communists in 1949. Immediately afterward, the mainland government began two parallel programs relating to written Chinese. One was the development of an alphabetic script for Mandarin, which was spoken by about two-thirds of the Chinese population; the other was the simplification of the traditional characters—a process that would eventually lead to simplified Chinese. The latter was not viewed as an impediment to the former; rather, it would ease the transition toward the exclusive use of an alphabetic (or at least phonetic) script.
By 1958, however, priority was given officially to simplified Chinese; a phonetic script, hanyu pinyin, had been developed, but its deployment to the exclusion of simplified characters was pushed off to some distant future date. The association between pinyin and Mandarin, as opposed to other dialects, may have contributed to this deferment. It seems unlikely that pinyin will supplant Chinese characters anytime soon as the sole means of representing Chinese.
So, they once wanted to modernize everything and emulate the westerners, but now they want to protect their own identity and culture. Their way of writing is not worse or better, it is simply different and based on other principles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_written_language