C++ shares a problem common with Perl. Both evolved bit by bit willy-nilly and got supersized into incoherent blob. Main thing that keep them limping along seems sunken costs (previous investment in people and code) and legacy inertia. It's painful to watch Strousup once again being defensive about C++.
The piece is written by Kevin Poulsen, apparently a well-known figure in hacking/security arena, and the bit linking this prank to Anonoymous is this:
Circumstantial evidence suggests the attack was the work of members of Anonymous, an informal collective of griefers best known for their recent war on the Church of Scientology. The first flurry of posts on the epilepsy forum referenced the site EBaumsWorld, which is much hated by Anonymous. And forum members claim they found a message board thread -- since deleted -- planning the attack at 7chan.org, a group stronghold.
Is it true that Anon hates EBaumsWorld and 7chan.org? Excuse my ignorance, but what's this 7chan.org (or other x-chan sites) about?
The shit's hard. That's why it's called Engineering.
If it was easy and useless, it'd be called Art History. Or Sociology. Or Psychology. Or French Literature. Or...
Seriously, though, it's all nice and good that you learn something substantial and useful through much hard work, but those that end up at the top (here in the US) seemed to be lawyers and sales people, while jobs for our ilks get shipped off to Asia and East Europe. Maybe the kid's right after all...
Not a freak at all. If you mucked around with 8-bit computers back in the 80's, you dealt with BASIC and assembly. Use what's most handy.
Btw, I seem to notice here that assembly is considered some "leet" skill. I disagree. Most undergrad EEs that take any computer-related courses (many if not most) handle assembly just fine - don't have to be Einstein. 'course, there is that pesky out-of-order execution...
In market economy, gov't set the rules (i.e., regulate), and corps compete to maximize their profit, within the rules. We should NOT expect corps to be "responsible" for the good of public - that's like asking foxes to care about hens (and that's why the so-called "Corporate Social Responsibility" is one more BS). Public good is the job of the gov't/system.
Corps are obviously doing their job, but our gov't/system is not. That's why Comcast, AT&T, Verizon, News Corp., all these are symptoms, not the cause. The cause is our gov't system not imposing proper rules for the good of public.
I see several comments with a degree of passion from you. Check out the movie "corporation" (heh, I should get marketing fee from those guys). This is a systemic problem at the national and international government level, not a problem of some rogue corporations.
...a mathematical theorem is considered true if (and as long as) it can hold against all atempts at proving it wrong...
If I remember my math correctly, a math "theorem" is NOT considered true (therefore not a theorem) just because all attempts to disprove it failed. If that's all it's got, it remains a conjecture.
Darn, I cuss out somebody, and they actually reply.
I've received TR a few years ago, when I believe you took over as the editor. One memorable article is about this guy that was working on aging and (im)mortality, and your editorial attacking him in a highly personal manner as a loon on some moral ground that is incomprehensible to me (and apparently many of the readers according to the letters published). My calling you "douche" is crude, but equivalent to your personal attack on that guy - no, I'm not related to him.
As for TR being a promo rag, I noticed it covered generally IT, biotech, and nanotech at the time. That's pretty big arena to cover, and your coverage was extremely superficial, too shallow even to provide basic description of their working principles, but nevertheless rating them in terms of timeframe, risk, progress (time to market?), possible payoff, etc. It was geared toward investors/VC chasing tech hype rather than lay people/engineers/scientists wanting to keep abreast of new technologies.
Was commercial appeal not the new direction for TR when you took it over? I've heard it used to be a alumni journal sorta thing before.
>>in fact, just what is intelligence / conciousness? if we can't define it, how can we hope to produce it?
>If we can't tell the difference maybe there isn't one. Are you intelligent? Or are you just sufficiently complex enough that you simulate it well?
Or maybe it's clownshoe. I've seen this brand of BS from some charlatan before: "Let me tell you what it is NOT..." - tactic to keep spewing BS about "it" without telling you what "it" is.
OP posts good question, someone replies with smug BS, OP modded "troll" and reply "+5 insightful".
The West told Palestinians to elect a legit (i.e. democratically elected) government. They did - Hamas.
Israel and West should have given Hamas more rope - give it a chance to run Palestinian territories. It's one thing to wage guerilla warfare shouting "death to Israel", wholely another to actually run a country - you know, run the economy, provide security, etc. Hamas, legit gov't elected by Palestinians, could have learned the lesson and try to be sane - i.e., work with its crucial neighbor, Israel. Or perhaps it would have kept up its rhetoric and mess with Israel, which would bring grief to their own people in various ways.
If the former, that's exactly what all the parties could have hoped for. Even if they don't give up "official" anti-Israel stance, the fact on the ground would have made it idiotic - Palestinian territories cannot hope to prosper without decent cooperation with Israel - look up the map. If the latter, the Hamas government, while fucking with Israel, would have driven their own people into further misery, and Israel still would have maintained the ability, and very good justification, to open a can of whopass on Palestinians, collectively (since their elected gov't is fucking with Israel).
What did the West and Israel do instead? Kick the Hamas off Palestinian gov't before it even had a chance. What do we have now? Hamas re-trenched in Gaza, lobbing rockets to Israel. The West and Israel pretend to negotiate with Abbas and Fatah, which has no legitmacy with Palestinians. It's back to low boiling mess that's not going anywhere and everyone has execuse to keep the status quo mess up.
the monklike state of existence of many scientists, to investigate and research in silence, and then the looking down disdainfully upon the common man and his mispercetions: this is part of the problem. this anti-populist attitude of many scientists is part of the problem. an arrogance, a classism, an us-versus-them way of looking at the world. it is the lack of communication efforts of scientists themselves that leads to the dangerous and stupid ideas many common people swallow in the first place
So... scientists are people like most others...
so who do i blame for bad science journalism? scientists themselves. for generally not making themselves available. the ultimate antidote would be for some of you brilliant but silent minds to clear your throat for once, and finally speak up
That's why the writers who have the time and the writing skills do the writing. That goes for most other professions - accounts, lawyers, engineers, etc.
Btw, the PR profession, whose points it to yak to public, puts all these points upside down.
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Dude, you're one pompous ass.
Even illegal things are "illegal" only if you bring a court case, make fuss, and convince judges/jury it is illegal.
Hah-ha, that's the sorta attitude that got you posting from Gitmo.
Yes, the guys should look at the pics only when they are in homo mode.
Ask them to put glow-on-dark condoms on them. Make sure post the pics back here.
C++ shares a problem common with Perl. Both evolved bit by bit willy-nilly and got supersized into incoherent blob. Main thing that keep them limping along seems sunken costs (previous investment in people and code) and legacy inertia. It's painful to watch Strousup once again being defensive about C++.
Is it true that Anon hates EBaumsWorld and 7chan.org? Excuse my ignorance, but what's this 7chan.org (or other x-chan sites) about?
That's a complete bullshit. Here's my credit card number...
But it's fun to poke Mac fanboi's eyes. ;-)
What business does a laptop have for its existence without a user tapping at it? Who are the Einsteins that modded this "insightful"?
Let it go, man. You have to let it go.
The shit's hard. That's why it's called Engineering.
If it was easy and useless, it'd be called Art History. Or Sociology. Or Psychology. Or French Literature. Or...
Seriously, though, it's all nice and good that you learn something substantial and useful through much hard work, but those that end up at the top (here in the US) seemed to be lawyers and sales people, while jobs for our ilks get shipped off to Asia and East Europe. Maybe the kid's right after all...
Some suggestions:
Pilsener Urquell vs. Milwaukee's Best
Budvar vs. Old Milwaukee
Not a freak at all. If you mucked around with 8-bit computers back in the 80's, you dealt with BASIC and assembly. Use what's most handy.
Btw, I seem to notice here that assembly is considered some "leet" skill. I disagree. Most undergrad EEs that take any computer-related courses (many if not most) handle assembly just fine - don't have to be Einstein. 'course, there is that pesky out-of-order execution...
In market economy, gov't set the rules (i.e., regulate), and corps compete to maximize their profit, within the rules. We should NOT expect corps to be "responsible" for the good of public - that's like asking foxes to care about hens (and that's why the so-called "Corporate Social Responsibility" is one more BS). Public good is the job of the gov't/system.
Corps are obviously doing their job, but our gov't/system is not. That's why Comcast, AT&T, Verizon, News Corp., all these are symptoms, not the cause. The cause is our gov't system not imposing proper rules for the good of public.
I see several comments with a degree of passion from you. Check out the movie "corporation" (heh, I should get marketing fee from those guys). This is a systemic problem at the national and international government level, not a problem of some rogue corporations.
And then Bush vetoes the bill claiming "syntax error".
Darn, I cuss out somebody, and they actually reply.
I've received TR a few years ago, when I believe you took over as the editor. One memorable article is about this guy that was working on aging and (im)mortality, and your editorial attacking him in a highly personal manner as a loon on some moral ground that is incomprehensible to me (and apparently many of the readers according to the letters published). My calling you "douche" is crude, but equivalent to your personal attack on that guy - no, I'm not related to him.
As for TR being a promo rag, I noticed it covered generally IT, biotech, and nanotech at the time. That's pretty big arena to cover, and your coverage was extremely superficial, too shallow even to provide basic description of their working principles, but nevertheless rating them in terms of timeframe, risk, progress (time to market?), possible payoff, etc. It was geared toward investors/VC chasing tech hype rather than lay people/engineers/scientists wanting to keep abreast of new technologies.
Was commercial appeal not the new direction for TR when you took it over? I've heard it used to be a alumni journal sorta thing before.
>>in fact, just what is intelligence / conciousness? if we can't define it, how can we hope to produce it?
>If we can't tell the difference maybe there isn't one. Are you intelligent? Or are you just sufficiently complex enough that you simulate it well?
Or maybe it's clownshoe. I've seen this brand of BS from some charlatan before: "Let me tell you what it is NOT..." - tactic to keep spewing BS about "it" without telling you what "it" is.
OP posts good question, someone replies with smug BS, OP modded "troll" and reply "+5 insightful".
The West told Palestinians to elect a legit (i.e. democratically elected) government. They did - Hamas.
Israel and West should have given Hamas more rope - give it a chance to run Palestinian territories. It's one thing to wage guerilla warfare shouting "death to Israel", wholely another to actually run a country - you know, run the economy, provide security, etc. Hamas, legit gov't elected by Palestinians, could have learned the lesson and try to be sane - i.e., work with its crucial neighbor, Israel. Or perhaps it would have kept up its rhetoric and mess with Israel, which would bring grief to their own people in various ways.
If the former, that's exactly what all the parties could have hoped for. Even if they don't give up "official" anti-Israel stance, the fact on the ground would have made it idiotic - Palestinian territories cannot hope to prosper without decent cooperation with Israel - look up the map. If the latter, the Hamas government, while fucking with Israel, would have driven their own people into further misery, and Israel still would have maintained the ability, and very good justification, to open a can of whopass on Palestinians, collectively (since their elected gov't is fucking with Israel).
What did the West and Israel do instead? Kick the Hamas off Palestinian gov't before it even had a chance. What do we have now? Hamas re-trenched in Gaza, lobbing rockets to Israel. The West and Israel pretend to negotiate with Abbas and Fatah, which has no legitmacy with Palestinians. It's back to low boiling mess that's not going anywhere and everyone has execuse to keep the status quo mess up.
You and a few billion East and South Asians. :-)
TR is (has become?) a promotion rag, and Jason Pontin is a douche.
So... scientists are people like most others...
That's why the writers who have the time and the writing skills do the writing. That goes for most other professions - accounts, lawyers, engineers, etc.
Btw, the PR profession, whose points it to yak to public, puts all these points upside down.