Java was born in SUN's battle with Microsoft, and rallied the industry (the "community" as you noted) behind it, producing some abomination like EJBs. Nevertheless, despite it all, the core remained such that it more/less became the successor to C as the language for education and application programming.
It's an interesting contrast to Python, another language that "grown-ups" like.
Go to Gosling's blog directly and you would see that he saw changes unrolling not to his liking. People of his rep can roll with the punches and hang around if they wanted. So...
If you browse his blog entries, you see the noose was tightening, as was expected. SUN and Oracle may both be in the Valley, but their cultures were radically different.
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Also, I'm in the market for a new toaster. Can a nerd get some info, eh?
by the weasel, for the weasel, of the weasel.
Sounds like the thriving G3 industry: green grant grab.
That's right. It's the scientist speak for zombies. Can't call it zombies, though, cuz they'd get sued by the Hollywood IP zombies.
Despite all the whining about slashdot "editors", I'd rather have them pick stories, rather than these PR marketing bullshit submitted.
I really hate to use such language, but "slashdot" has a brand value. Don't destory it.
Well, Ok, not very close, but you know, SUN dragged huge shadow there, you know.
So you saw them from their peaking to downfall. I didn't mean to be accusitive. That whole period I worked at an outfit less than 10 miles away.
Maybe you're not familiar with these two outfits.
SUN was an engineering company with sales on the side. Oracle is a sales company with software on the side.
Java was born in SUN's battle with Microsoft, and rallied the industry (the "community" as you noted) behind it, producing some abomination like EJBs. Nevertheless, despite it all, the core remained such that it more/less became the successor to C as the language for education and application programming.
It's an interesting contrast to Python, another language that "grown-ups" like.
Which group were you in and when?
Go to Gosling's blog directly and you would see that he saw changes unrolling not to his liking. People of his rep can roll with the punches and hang around if they wanted. So...
This from the blog of Gosling, the man himself:
http://nighthacks.com/roller/jag/entry/so_long_old_friend1
If you browse his blog entries, you see the noose was tightening, as was expected. SUN and Oracle may both be in the Valley, but their cultures were radically different.
Another good guys sank...
Oh. I don't eat ferret, either.
Next time you go there, ask for sea slug. Hmm.... sea slug...
That bird nest thing was Chinese, I thought.
What I was saying, was that some of us, you know, Royal We, right?
How did you know about the mouse?
Chinese have them beat: all things four-legged other than table (some like that).
But hey, we eat haggis, lutefisk, scrapple, prarie oyster, head cheese, rotting cheese. We're up there.
Big Bang is, well, Big Bang, and only some religious fundies would have issues since the rest of us don't really care one way or another.
Sharing ancestors with apes, well, bit less so.
Evolution: now this is different since it's a demonstrated fact.
How rare/common is such screwups? Or are we just bashing Chinese (not that I mind it all that much, don't let me get in the way)?
That's where you stick the socket in. Stupid scientists.
Hm. I guess it's like robbing bank - the best way to rob it is to run one.
Man, I want this bubble to burst so bad. Is there a market to bet against the bubble? :-)
I don't know if this is a real mccoy (slashdot hasn't been the same in these days), but if it is, it's electrical engineering, not computer science.
Kids these days...
Oh the Mediterranean Ocean, where the Jumbo Shrimps frolic happily.
One word: Arkansas.
Stop being such a sheph.