"I really don't actually think it should be a crime to sell non-CF bulbs, but there should be some encouragement to adjust the cost of the regular ones to take account of the long-term damage."
I wish your first post had said something closer to this.
Subsidizing fluorescent bulbs of any size, or taxing less-efficient varieties, is something I can live with; it would probably be helpful overall. (Though if you extend the taxes to LEDs, it might infuriate some of this board.)
Banning incandescent bulbs will probably boost sales of incandescent-size halogens more than CFs, since that sort of bulb fits and works in more lamps. If you count halogen bulbs as incandescents, it will make some of us steamed.
Cast iron really is good. Don't put cast iron pans in the dishwasher, though, or you'll get cast-rust pans. Trust me, I have experience. [sigh]
I have seen cast-iron pans at a JCPenney home store. It'll take a bit of looking to find them, but they can still be found at places other than flea markets...
Okay. I don't have stats, but let's say that's true: electrical fires and fires directly related to gas leaks are equally common. Let's even say there are fewer gas fires. There is still a big difference.
Electrical fires don't start any bigger than, say, normal grease fires. You can escape them. If you have the right sort of fire extinguisher, you can even put a small electrical fire out.
Fires fed by gas leaks can go from zero to boom quickly. If you are anywhere near a gas-fed fire when it starts, you will probably get severely injured or killed.
Even if gas fires are rarer, I might feel more comfortable with electric. It's like the accident stats for cars vs. planes. The average car is much more likely to crash than the average plane, but any individual car crash is less likely to be deadly than any individual plane crash.
There is a reason for cable boxes burning as many watts "off" as on.
I have seen cable boxes truly turn on after power outages or being unplugged and replugged. Cable boxes are full of computer data, and it takes a few minutes for a cable box that has just turned on to figure out which channels it has. (The first boot can seem to take forever.) They also update their program guides continually.
Note: it takes quite a while for a satellite box to regain its bearings after an outage.
Does the lamp timer affect the DVR storage much?
The inconveniences of compact fluorescent lighting are significantly more inconvenient to some of us than to others.
I can live with CF bulbs, though I do get annoyed by the warm-up time, and old dim ones can be almost painful. I prefer normal/blue-white incandescent light to normal/yellow CF, but I can live with CF. But I know someone who hates whatever frequencies the local CF bulbs use; if they're on, she asks me to turn them off and turn something else on.
My favorite light comes from halogen lamps; they're better than incandescents, and they dim nicely. They do keep the house warm in winter, though. Regulation may force me to give them up eventually, and it's not energy regulation. Because early indoor halogen lamps set things on fire in certain situations, people in my area stopped selling halogen lamps. The bulbs are delicate to handle and hard to change; the saftety gratings that were legislated into newer halogen lamps probably didn't help. So, for these reasons and the relative lack of demand, it became cheaper to get an entire new incandescent lamp than a halogen bulb!
I don't see incandescents being outlawed soon. Three-way lamps are actually popular. The public might get as annoyed if they couldn't replace the bulbs on their 3-ways as I was to be priced out of one of my halogen lamps. Until 3-way CFs become possible, we'll still see incandescents.
Which brand of compact fluorescent should I be avoiding? I have a mix of CFs, incandescents, and halogens at my place; on the off-chance that another CF enters the house, I'd like to know which one not to get.
Is it GE?
Ah, I think I've seen quite a few stoves like that. Of course, on most of the stoves that I've seen, the "buttons" look like dials--they just have relatively few stops.
There are places in America too far from any serious cities for companies to run gas lines. In those places, the choices are propane-gas or electricity...
Rats--blew my math in my other reply. Do I have to turn in my geek learner's permit?
Okay. Three significant digits. 3050 million:3010 million. 305:301.
Okay, so that is approx. 1:1. And yet, there are almost 40 million more males...
I am disputing that Donald Rumsfeld is at a low level of American politics. He was, until recently, the Secretary of Defense, which is a cabinet position and high-level in the US Executive branch. That's a high level of American politics.
What is more, the Department of Defense is in charge of the details of American military actions. For the last five years, American military actions have been making impacts on the entire world for various reasons. Donald Rumsfeld is in part responsible for all these actions. What he did is of international importance.
The society in Moral Panic is that society that trusts the mainstream media or the religious-right media. Or in this case, UK Sun readers. You ceased to be a part of it when you decided to get your news from Slashdot.
Yes, I read your comment. Yes, I read the article. Yes, I read that quote.
The official said that there was nothing on the chip that could not be found on the personal details page of the passport. I understand that part. I understand that it might be easier to get the info by stealing the passport.
It's just that I assumed that a personal details page would include personal details. Surely you understand how I might get that idea.
Well, I know that some states ban radar detectors.
But you've got me here. I suspect that, strictly speaking, some of the entertainment hardware out there is illegal. But it's all still available in a catalog near you. I recently saw a catalog offer satellite radios that could record broadcasts, and I know the RIAA at least wishes that illegal.
In short, touche. But if the content industry doesn't license content for EVD players, they'll only take off in Chinatowns.
No, British passports don't have Social Security numbers. But I imagine that having someone steal a National Health Service number or your National ID number would be just as bad.
And what details are on the personal-details pages of the UK passport database? I'll bet all the NHS numbers are there.
The stolen 'zines and porn accounts might actually be covered. That Mirror article didn't just say "panty theft"--it said theft.
The mugger giving that strange look might get classed as a sex offender: "harassment" is also on that list in the article. Whether he is classed as one depends on what the British police do, and (if I undestood it correctly), they decide who's committing sexual offenses on a case-by-case basis.
This could be like US hate-crime laws, only worse. (America doesn't have a registry for hate-crime offenders yet...)
No, only some of them will be "sex offenders." That Mirror article said that it was up to law enforcement to determine which panty thefts, child kidnappings, and "harrassments" are counted as sex crimes, and that these decisions would be made on a case-by-case basis.
Is that better or worse than consistent registering? Is it better because some people in these classes escape being registered, or is it worse because there is no way to be sure if certain activities will get you more than jail and fines?
Step 3: Publish a website with articles, blogs and photos.
Step 4: Charge people for reading older articles.
Step 5: Charge people for hard copies of certain photos.
Step 6: Profit?
I hate to say this, but Time has already named "The Computer" a Person of the Year. I forget which year, but I think it was during the dotcom boom. If you look through their cover gallery, you ought to find the relevant cover.
I believe that Donald Rumsfeld, as US Secretary of Defense up until last month, did have some impact on the world outside the US.
Think of "Operation Shock&Awe." Think of all the bomb & missile craters that have shown up in Iraq over the last three years. His policies created thousands of impacts on the world!
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"I really don't actually think it should be a crime to sell non-CF bulbs, but there should be some encouragement to adjust the cost of the regular ones to take account of the long-term damage."
I wish your first post had said something closer to this.
Subsidizing fluorescent bulbs of any size, or taxing less-efficient varieties, is something I can live with; it would probably be helpful overall. (Though if you extend the taxes to LEDs, it might infuriate some of this board.)
Banning incandescent bulbs will probably boost sales of incandescent-size halogens more than CFs, since that sort of bulb fits and works in more lamps. If you count halogen bulbs as incandescents, it will make some of us steamed.
Cast iron really is good. Don't put cast iron pans in the dishwasher, though, or you'll get cast-rust pans. Trust me, I have experience. [sigh]
I have seen cast-iron pans at a JCPenney home store. It'll take a bit of looking to find them, but they can still be found at places other than flea markets...
Okay. I don't have stats, but let's say that's true: electrical fires and fires directly related to gas leaks are equally common. Let's even say there are fewer gas fires. There is still a big difference.
Electrical fires don't start any bigger than, say, normal grease fires. You can escape them. If you have the right sort of fire extinguisher, you can even put a small electrical fire out.
Fires fed by gas leaks can go from zero to boom quickly. If you are anywhere near a gas-fed fire when it starts, you will probably get severely injured or killed.
Even if gas fires are rarer, I might feel more comfortable with electric. It's like the accident stats for cars vs. planes. The average car is much more likely to crash than the average plane, but any individual car crash is less likely to be deadly than any individual plane crash.
There is a reason for cable boxes burning as many watts "off" as on.
I have seen cable boxes truly turn on after power outages or being unplugged and replugged. Cable boxes are full of computer data, and it takes a few minutes for a cable box that has just turned on to figure out which channels it has. (The first boot can seem to take forever.) They also update their program guides continually.
Note: it takes quite a while for a satellite box to regain its bearings after an outage.
Does the lamp timer affect the DVR storage much?
The inconveniences of compact fluorescent lighting are significantly more inconvenient to some of us than to others.
I can live with CF bulbs, though I do get annoyed by the warm-up time, and old dim ones can be almost painful. I prefer normal/blue-white incandescent light to normal/yellow CF, but I can live with CF. But I know someone who hates whatever frequencies the local CF bulbs use; if they're on, she asks me to turn them off and turn something else on.
My favorite light comes from halogen lamps; they're better than incandescents, and they dim nicely. They do keep the house warm in winter, though. Regulation may force me to give them up eventually, and it's not energy regulation. Because early indoor halogen lamps set things on fire in certain situations, people in my area stopped selling halogen lamps. The bulbs are delicate to handle and hard to change; the saftety gratings that were legislated into newer halogen lamps probably didn't help. So, for these reasons and the relative lack of demand, it became cheaper to get an entire new incandescent lamp than a halogen bulb!
I don't see incandescents being outlawed soon. Three-way lamps are actually popular. The public might get as annoyed if they couldn't replace the bulbs on their 3-ways as I was to be priced out of one of my halogen lamps. Until 3-way CFs become possible, we'll still see incandescents.
What is the point of a bug light that can't be used outdoors?
Which brand of compact fluorescent should I be avoiding? I have a mix of CFs, incandescents, and halogens at my place; on the off-chance that another CF enters the house, I'd like to know which one not to get.
Is it GE?
Ah, I think I've seen quite a few stoves like that. Of course, on most of the stoves that I've seen, the "buttons" look like dials--they just have relatively few stops.
There are places in America too far from any serious cities for companies to run gas lines. In those places, the choices are propane-gas or electricity...
Rats--blew my math in my other reply. Do I have to turn in my geek learner's permit?
Okay. Three significant digits. 3050 million:3010 million. 305:301.
Okay, so that is approx. 1:1. And yet, there are almost 40 million more males...
Understood. But 3052 million:3006 million reduces to 1526:1003. That's closer to 3:2 than 1:1.
I am disputing that Donald Rumsfeld is at a low level of American politics. He was, until recently, the Secretary of Defense, which is a cabinet position and high-level in the US Executive branch. That's a high level of American politics.
What is more, the Department of Defense is in charge of the details of American military actions. For the last five years, American military actions have been making impacts on the entire world for various reasons. Donald Rumsfeld is in part responsible for all these actions. What he did is of international importance.
The society in Moral Panic is that society that trusts the mainstream media or the religious-right media. Or in this case, UK Sun readers. You ceased to be a part of it when you decided to get your news from Slashdot.
That's the US government. What matters in this case is the UK government's policies.
Yes, I read your comment. Yes, I read the article. Yes, I read that quote.
The official said that there was nothing on the chip that could not be found on the personal details page of the passport. I understand that part. I understand that it might be easier to get the info by stealing the passport.
It's just that I assumed that a personal details page would include personal details. Surely you understand how I might get that idea.
How do you know MI6 won't show up at their actual door? (Or MI5, if they did it in England...)
Well, I know that some states ban radar detectors.
But you've got me here. I suspect that, strictly speaking, some of the entertainment hardware out there is illegal. But it's all still available in a catalog near you. I recently saw a catalog offer satellite radios that could record broadcasts, and I know the RIAA at least wishes that illegal.
In short, touche. But if the content industry doesn't license content for EVD players, they'll only take off in Chinatowns.
No, British passports don't have Social Security numbers. But I imagine that having someone steal a National Health Service number or your National ID number would be just as bad. And what details are on the personal-details pages of the UK passport database? I'll bet all the NHS numbers are there.
The stolen 'zines and porn accounts might actually be covered. That Mirror article didn't just say "panty theft"--it said theft.
The mugger giving that strange look might get classed as a sex offender: "harassment" is also on that list in the article. Whether he is classed as one depends on what the British police do, and (if I undestood it correctly), they decide who's committing sexual offenses on a case-by-case basis.
This could be like US hate-crime laws, only worse. (America doesn't have a registry for hate-crime offenders yet...)
No, only some of them will be "sex offenders." That Mirror article said that it was up to law enforcement to determine which panty thefts, child kidnappings, and "harrassments" are counted as sex crimes, and that these decisions would be made on a case-by-case basis.
Is that better or worse than consistent registering? Is it better because some people in these classes escape being registered, or is it worse because there is no way to be sure if certain activities will get you more than jail and fines?
TIME does not consider itself irrelevant. On the contrary--it just named every single one of its readers Person of the Year!
Step 3: Publish a website with articles, blogs and photos.
Step 4: Charge people for reading older articles.
Step 5: Charge people for hard copies of certain photos.
Step 6: Profit?
Rats. I (belatedly) looked at the gallery myself. I was off by at least fifteen years!
I hate to say this, but Time has already named "The Computer" a Person of the Year. I forget which year, but I think it was during the dotcom boom. If you look through their cover gallery, you ought to find the relevant cover.
I believe that Donald Rumsfeld, as US Secretary of Defense up until last month, did have some impact on the world outside the US.
Think of "Operation Shock&Awe." Think of all the bomb & missile craters that have shown up in Iraq over the last three years. His policies created thousands of impacts on the world!