It says "if the derived work is incompatible" - OpenSSH is _quite_ compatible with SSH Communications' implementation, to the best of my knowledge. But Tatu's obviously not going by his own license here... _____
Well, he certainly took his sweet time in defending it. In case you've forgotten, trademarks must be defended by the trademark owner. How long has the OpenSSH project been around now? Long enough, certainly, that this should've been brought up a long time ago.
Also, as a friend of mine mentioned, when he (Tatu) put the term SSH onto those IETF documents, it could be said that he implicitly put the term into the public domain. (IANAL, of course, but I bet a case could be made.) Sorry, but he should've thought of that.
Also, his spiel about extending the life of the outdated SSH1 protocol is kinda hokey - OpenSSH 2.x supports the IETF standard SSH2 protocol, and they went back and fixed many bugs in the original SSH1 code. _____
I even pointed out that the game had a good deal of blood and violence to one parent, who was buying it for a kid who looked around 10. "There's blood in this game?" she said. They don't show blood on the front of the box. I pointed out the M rating that was clearly stamped on the front. "Oh. I didn't even know what that meant".
And how is that a failing of the rating system? I just grabbed my "American McGee's ALICE" box (I don't need anyone's opinion of my taste in games, thanks), and looked at the rating label - it has the ESRB "M" rating icon,, above which is printed the word "MATURE". Also, there is a box to the right which reads "See package back for content descriptors". Those include "Animated violence" and "Animated blood and gore". It also says "For more info, visit www.esrb.org, or call [800 number]".
To me, this doesn't indicate a failing of the rating system - my mom (she's as far from computer savvy as you can get) understands what "mature" means as a game rating. It just means that some people are just plain damn stupid, or illiterate. Or both. _____
This surprises you? The people who want you to believe that games, movies, TV, and whatnot are the big bad driving force behind youth violence don't want to publicize this - it deflates their entire argument, after all. Since it doesn't fit their argument (as I said, it makes all their points moot), they're going to ignore it, naturally. _____
No - I, for one, expect parents to keep tabs on their kids, and take responsibility for their kids' actions. It's not my job. If I want to buy a copy of Quake, why should the fact that some snot-nosed brat's parents can't keep him/her under control, and keep track of what they're doing, preclude me from doing so?
I don't think anyone's saying that kids won't be affected by anything that they see. But I just don't think that should burden or otherwise influence my ability to choose the games I wish to play. Make the parents be responsible for what their kids see and do - they brought them into this world, they think their genes are good enough to be passed on to a new generation - they should take responsibility for what they've created. _____
That's no solution, and for us, that'd be a rather difficult proposition - since our right to bear arms is codified as part of the Bill of Rights (Amendment 2 to the Constitution).
Besides, how would you know that no one has guns, even in whatever country you live in? How can you guarantee that? If you're dealing with someone who intends to commit a crime anyway, then do you REALLY think that, if they want a gun, they're going to care about the fact that the method they used to get it, or the possession of it, is illegal? I rather doubt it.
Everyone comes up with "fixes" that on the surface, give the impression that something's being done, but the fact is, no one is fixing the real problem. The real problem isn't the guns - it's the people. _____
I saw the story (on a link from Blue's to foxnews.com), and I laughed my ass off. Yes, it was a chicken strip, and the kid (8 years old, I believe the article said - second/third grade age) pointed it at a teacher, and said "bang bang bang" or "pow pow pow" or something to that effect. The whole crux of the issue there was the (IMO moronic) "zero-tolerance" policy that the school was using as an excuse for this. They considered it a weapon.
As others have said, these zero-tolerance policies discourage the punishment fitting the crime - punish everyone, if the "crime" can even be remotely thrown into one of a small set of categories, instead of considering per situation the proper punishment. I understand principals and educators are busy - but the answer is either more people or better ways of dealing with the problems - not brain-dead rules that eliminate the thought process. _____
PCI is _twice_ as fast as ISA? Really? I think it's a little faster than that...
If you're talking PCI as it is in a typical PC config (33 MHz bus clock, 32-bit bus width), then it's at least 8x as fast (with most ISA cards using a 16-bit-wide bus, with an 8 MHz bus clock). 32x faster if you happen to be using a system with a 64-bit, 66 MHz clock PCI bus.
Also, there are a few "real" (non-soft) PCI modems out there. Hardware modems, whether ISA or PCI, will cost more than software modems. _____
That seems to be what I've heard before - and I believe it. The latest pop sensations seem to be the only ones making the money. And of course, if it's true, it kind of disproves the whole "artists need to make money to create, otherwise they wouldn't do it" spiel - I believe that a real artist will do what he/she enjoys as a sideline, if nothing else, not because it makes them money, but because it brings them enjoyment.
That's the big problem with the whole theory of the need of the "entertainment industry" - it seems like the best stuff comes from those who aren't making the big bucks. Kinda like free software/open source? _____
You got it to work? I remember downloading it and trying it (why does mentioning this make me feel so dirty?)... it was a ~2.5 MB static linked binary, and I never could get it to play anything. It'd start up, and you could not persuade it to stream anything. It just sat there, looking like ass, and taking up memory and disk space. Needless to say, it quickly entered the big bit-bucket in the sky. _____
Unless it's being transferred digitally and encrypted from your sound card to your speakers, you can just plug any analog audio recording device into your sound card's speaker-out and go to town, as it were. Even then, there's always further hardware hacking that could be done to get the decrypted PCM stream, or analog audio, to a recording device... _____
Credit where credit is due is all fine and good, but if you're using someone else's code, you kind of have to agree to their terms. Now, OpenSSH is (afaik) under a BSD-variant license, so that is all he has to do, basically - give credit to the OpenSSH guys.
However, if it were GPL'd, he'd have to follow the rules that the GPL lays down - like them or not, if he wanted to use GPL'd code, that's part of the deal. He could, alternatively, try to hash out a special agreement with the developers. Or, he could just look elsewhere, or license a commercial implementation, or write his own.
As another person noted in a previous post, you aren't automatically entitled to GPL'd code just because the source is available. If he licensed commercial code, and contravened the license agreement on that code, how long do you think the company he licensed it from would wait to sue him into oblivion? (Answer - not very long.) So, what makes anyone think that just because they don't like the licensing terms, they can just ignore them? _____
Doesn't sound like there's much action there that he'd want to get involved with. Even if he could become a partner, who wants to own part of a sinking ship? It's still sinking, he'd just have a (much larger) stake in it, and more to lose once it finally croaks. _____
There're always two points that Microsoft users drag out:
(1) Microsoft OSes are _so_ easy to install!
(2) You are having (stability|performance|*) problems? You must not have installed it right!
You're now using #2. I wish MS software users would get their story straight - if it's so easy to install and use, how come it constantly gets screwed up? (And I've installed Windows & co. enough in my time - it's not like you get a huge number of choices. I don't remember seeing checkboxes for "Never crash on me" and "Always be fast"...) _____
Sure, but the decryption process probably wouldn't be fast enough to stream video in realtime, and there's also the fact that encryption technology is still pretty heavily controlled in most parts of the world. _____
Umm. Starship Troopers has to be flipped partway through the movie? That's news to me (I have the Region 1 DVD) - one side contains the movie (anamorphic widescreen), the other side has special features. (Same with Spaceballs.)
Maybe MGM/UA is doing weird things in other regions? _____
Yes, we've probably all read this by now. But if, as they claim, CPRM is intended only for removable data storage media, then WHY is it being implemented in the ATA protocol, instead of ATAPI? ATA is used almost exclusively for fixed storage media (aka hard drives), and ATAPI is for removables (IDE Zip, Jaz, CD/DVD-ROM/R/RW, Imation SuperDisk, etc.). So what Intel is claiming makes no sense - if that's their actual intention (yea right), then why are they implementing it in the WRONG PROTOCOL? _____
I certainly don't want to see this technology in any system I own - but unfortunately, as I saw noted elsewhere, there are enough people out there now buying computers, who don't know what's in them (and really don't care, either). The general public (who doesn't understand the difference between RAM and ROM, and that DSL and cable "modems" aren't modems at all) just wants computers, and the computer makers will put whatever's cheapest in their machines (and that'll probably mean drives with this stupid CPRM bullshit).
I'm not disagreeing that it's a bad technology, but just remember that we geeks aren't the only ones buying computers and computer hardware - we just happen to be the ones who know _what_ we're buying, and actually care about it. _____
As others have commented, even if you've never done it, it's not exactly hard to figure out that it can be a delicate thing firing/laying off an employee. No one will disagree with that - I've been down that road myself (on the being-fired side, but it was at a company with high turnover - everyone either quit or got fired, that was just how it worked. A friend was fired the same day, he worked sales and did a good job - no good reason was ever given). But we're saying it's pretty damn poor to fire or lay off a person, and be such a damn coward that you can't tell them face to face, or at all.
At least you had the self-respect and the respect for the employees being let go to tell them directly. That's something. _____
But she said they WEREN'T making a profit, even with nearly 115 million US dollars in revenue for FY 2000. (Revenue != profit, revenue == income.)
Not to disagree with you, day traders are frequently morons who try to play the stock market like the lottery, and aren't interested in getting into it for the long haul. _____
Too oversimplified. If I just want to see what's going on, or if there's some problem, I may need the extra verbosity. I do like the idea of another poster, however - have a keypress (Escape, space, or something) that flips out of the "simple startup" screen, and displays more verbose info when it's wanted. _____
Well, Apple did create TrueType, so it is their technology. Though, since FreeType is (supposedly) a clean-room implementation, does the patent apply? _____
Try the iBiblio archive for the latest Wine source releases. If you really want binary builds, check out WineHQ. They have a page with a list of different packages linked off the main page. _____
A _little_? Uhh. To say the least. Considering (afaik) you wouldn't be calling DirectX APIs via any sort of RPC, and considering the APIs weren't designed with wire communication in mind _at all_, it'd be dog slow.
Either you're trolling, or you don't understand what RPC (and SOAP is just another way of doing RPC) is all about. _____
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It says "if the derived work is incompatible" - OpenSSH is _quite_ compatible with SSH Communications' implementation, to the best of my knowledge. But Tatu's obviously not going by his own license here...
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Well, he certainly took his sweet time in defending it. In case you've forgotten, trademarks must be defended by the trademark owner. How long has the OpenSSH project been around now? Long enough, certainly, that this should've been brought up a long time ago.
Also, as a friend of mine mentioned, when he (Tatu) put the term SSH onto those IETF documents, it could be said that he implicitly put the term into the public domain. (IANAL, of course, but I bet a case could be made.) Sorry, but he should've thought of that.
Also, his spiel about extending the life of the outdated SSH1 protocol is kinda hokey - OpenSSH 2.x supports the IETF standard SSH2 protocol, and they went back and fixed many bugs in the original SSH1 code.
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I even pointed out that the game had a good deal of blood and violence to one parent, who was buying it for a kid who looked around 10. "There's blood in this game?" she said. They don't show blood on the front of the box. I pointed out the M rating that was clearly stamped on the front. "Oh. I didn't even know what that meant".
And how is that a failing of the rating system? I just grabbed my "American McGee's ALICE" box (I don't need anyone's opinion of my taste in games, thanks), and looked at the rating label - it has the ESRB "M" rating icon,, above which is printed the word "MATURE". Also, there is a box to the right which reads "See package back for content descriptors". Those include "Animated violence" and "Animated blood and gore". It also says "For more info, visit www.esrb.org, or call [800 number]".
To me, this doesn't indicate a failing of the rating system - my mom (she's as far from computer savvy as you can get) understands what "mature" means as a game rating. It just means that some people are just plain damn stupid, or illiterate. Or both.
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This surprises you? The people who want you to believe that games, movies, TV, and whatnot are the big bad driving force behind youth violence don't want to publicize this - it deflates their entire argument, after all. Since it doesn't fit their argument (as I said, it makes all their points moot), they're going to ignore it, naturally.
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No - I, for one, expect parents to keep tabs on their kids, and take responsibility for their kids' actions. It's not my job. If I want to buy a copy of Quake, why should the fact that some snot-nosed brat's parents can't keep him/her under control, and keep track of what they're doing, preclude me from doing so?
I don't think anyone's saying that kids won't be affected by anything that they see. But I just don't think that should burden or otherwise influence my ability to choose the games I wish to play. Make the parents be responsible for what their kids see and do - they brought them into this world, they think their genes are good enough to be passed on to a new generation - they should take responsibility for what they've created.
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That's no solution, and for us, that'd be a rather difficult proposition - since our right to bear arms is codified as part of the Bill of Rights (Amendment 2 to the Constitution).
Besides, how would you know that no one has guns, even in whatever country you live in? How can you guarantee that? If you're dealing with someone who intends to commit a crime anyway, then do you REALLY think that, if they want a gun, they're going to care about the fact that the method they used to get it, or the possession of it, is illegal? I rather doubt it.
Everyone comes up with "fixes" that on the surface, give the impression that something's being done, but the fact is, no one is fixing the real problem. The real problem isn't the guns - it's the people.
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I saw the story (on a link from Blue's to foxnews.com), and I laughed my ass off. Yes, it was a chicken strip, and the kid (8 years old, I believe the article said - second/third grade age) pointed it at a teacher, and said "bang bang bang" or "pow pow pow" or something to that effect. The whole crux of the issue there was the (IMO moronic) "zero-tolerance" policy that the school was using as an excuse for this. They considered it a weapon.
As others have said, these zero-tolerance policies discourage the punishment fitting the crime - punish everyone, if the "crime" can even be remotely thrown into one of a small set of categories, instead of considering per situation the proper punishment. I understand principals and educators are busy - but the answer is either more people or better ways of dealing with the problems - not brain-dead rules that eliminate the thought process.
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PCI is _twice_ as fast as ISA? Really? I think it's a little faster than that...
If you're talking PCI as it is in a typical PC config (33 MHz bus clock, 32-bit bus width), then it's at least 8x as fast (with most ISA cards using a 16-bit-wide bus, with an 8 MHz bus clock). 32x faster if you happen to be using a system with a 64-bit, 66 MHz clock PCI bus.
Also, there are a few "real" (non-soft) PCI modems out there. Hardware modems, whether ISA or PCI, will cost more than software modems.
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That seems to be what I've heard before - and I believe it. The latest pop sensations seem to be the only ones making the money. And of course, if it's true, it kind of disproves the whole "artists need to make money to create, otherwise they wouldn't do it" spiel - I believe that a real artist will do what he/she enjoys as a sideline, if nothing else, not because it makes them money, but because it brings them enjoyment.
That's the big problem with the whole theory of the need of the "entertainment industry" - it seems like the best stuff comes from those who aren't making the big bucks. Kinda like free software/open source?
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You got it to work? I remember downloading it and trying it (why does mentioning this make me feel so dirty?)... it was a ~2.5 MB static linked binary, and I never could get it to play anything. It'd start up, and you could not persuade it to stream anything. It just sat there, looking like ass, and taking up memory and disk space. Needless to say, it quickly entered the big bit-bucket in the sky.
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Unless it's being transferred digitally and encrypted from your sound card to your speakers, you can just plug any analog audio recording device into your sound card's speaker-out and go to town, as it were. Even then, there's always further hardware hacking that could be done to get the decrypted PCM stream, or analog audio, to a recording device...
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Credit where credit is due is all fine and good, but if you're using someone else's code, you kind of have to agree to their terms. Now, OpenSSH is (afaik) under a BSD-variant license, so that is all he has to do, basically - give credit to the OpenSSH guys.
However, if it were GPL'd, he'd have to follow the rules that the GPL lays down - like them or not, if he wanted to use GPL'd code, that's part of the deal. He could, alternatively, try to hash out a special agreement with the developers. Or, he could just look elsewhere, or license a commercial implementation, or write his own.
As another person noted in a previous post, you aren't automatically entitled to GPL'd code just because the source is available. If he licensed commercial code, and contravened the license agreement on that code, how long do you think the company he licensed it from would wait to sue him into oblivion? (Answer - not very long.) So, what makes anyone think that just because they don't like the licensing terms, they can just ignore them?
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Doesn't sound like there's much action there that he'd want to get involved with. Even if he could become a partner, who wants to own part of a sinking ship? It's still sinking, he'd just have a (much larger) stake in it, and more to lose once it finally croaks.
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There're always two points that Microsoft users drag out:
(1) Microsoft OSes are _so_ easy to install!
(2) You are having (stability|performance|*) problems? You must not have installed it right!
You're now using #2. I wish MS software users would get their story straight - if it's so easy to install and use, how come it constantly gets screwed up? (And I've installed Windows & co. enough in my time - it's not like you get a huge number of choices. I don't remember seeing checkboxes for "Never crash on me" and "Always be fast"...)
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Hmm. That explains why I haven't seen it then. Wonder why they did that? What a pain in the ass.
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Sure, but the decryption process probably wouldn't be fast enough to stream video in realtime, and there's also the fact that encryption technology is still pretty heavily controlled in most parts of the world.
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Umm. Starship Troopers has to be flipped partway through the movie? That's news to me (I have the Region 1 DVD) - one side contains the movie (anamorphic widescreen), the other side has special features. (Same with Spaceballs.)
Maybe MGM/UA is doing weird things in other regions?
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Yes, we've probably all read this by now. But if, as they claim, CPRM is intended only for removable data storage media, then WHY is it being implemented in the ATA protocol, instead of ATAPI? ATA is used almost exclusively for fixed storage media (aka hard drives), and ATAPI is for removables (IDE Zip, Jaz, CD/DVD-ROM/R/RW, Imation SuperDisk, etc.). So what Intel is claiming makes no sense - if that's their actual intention (yea right), then why are they implementing it in the WRONG PROTOCOL?
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I certainly don't want to see this technology in any system I own - but unfortunately, as I saw noted elsewhere, there are enough people out there now buying computers, who don't know what's in them (and really don't care, either). The general public (who doesn't understand the difference between RAM and ROM, and that DSL and cable "modems" aren't modems at all) just wants computers, and the computer makers will put whatever's cheapest in their machines (and that'll probably mean drives with this stupid CPRM bullshit).
I'm not disagreeing that it's a bad technology, but just remember that we geeks aren't the only ones buying computers and computer hardware - we just happen to be the ones who know _what_ we're buying, and actually care about it.
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As others have commented, even if you've never done it, it's not exactly hard to figure out that it can be a delicate thing firing/laying off an employee. No one will disagree with that - I've been down that road myself (on the being-fired side, but it was at a company with high turnover - everyone either quit or got fired, that was just how it worked. A friend was fired the same day, he worked sales and did a good job - no good reason was ever given). But we're saying it's pretty damn poor to fire or lay off a person, and be such a damn coward that you can't tell them face to face, or at all.
At least you had the self-respect and the respect for the employees being let go to tell them directly. That's something.
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But she said they WEREN'T making a profit, even with nearly 115 million US dollars in revenue for FY 2000. (Revenue != profit, revenue == income.)
Not to disagree with you, day traders are frequently morons who try to play the stock market like the lottery, and aren't interested in getting into it for the long haul.
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Too oversimplified. If I just want to see what's going on, or if there's some problem, I may need the extra verbosity. I do like the idea of another poster, however - have a keypress (Escape, space, or something) that flips out of the "simple startup" screen, and displays more verbose info when it's wanted.
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Well, Apple did create TrueType, so it is their technology. Though, since FreeType is (supposedly) a clean-room implementation, does the patent apply?
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Try the iBiblio archive for the latest Wine source releases. If you really want binary builds, check out WineHQ. They have a page with a list of different packages linked off the main page.
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A _little_? Uhh. To say the least. Considering (afaik) you wouldn't be calling DirectX APIs via any sort of RPC, and considering the APIs weren't designed with wire communication in mind _at all_, it'd be dog slow.
Either you're trolling, or you don't understand what RPC (and SOAP is just another way of doing RPC) is all about.
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