Your Apple-hating has gotten in the way of actual informative posting. Whoever modded you up either shares your views of Apple or didn't care to read the article you linked to.
Gartner and IDC are both right. FTFA: "Gartner reported shipments to end users and IDC reported shipments into channel (i.e. distributors)." In other words, two different sets of numbers, from which you can draw whatever conclusions you feel like drawing. For comparative purposes, the only use these numbers have are when you compare, say, Gartner's Dell #'s to Gartner's Apple #'s.
But never let facts get in the way of some good-ol'fashioned Apple bashing, I guess.
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I don't think they're buying either. My wife had a laptop just to keep her from using my desktop. Once that became outdated, I got her an iPad, and she loves it. Email, websurfing, and a few games, and she's happy. Just no need for a PC. We can't be the only ones that replaced one of the full-featured PCs in the house with an iPad, or something similar.
You could argue it is, due to the close relationship between grammar and spelling in the current context. For example, he'd likely toss a resume with grammar OR spelling mistakes in it; although he didn't explicitly mention spelling errors, that part can be reasonably inferred.
Oh, okay. So you've gone from inflating Paul's stature by saying "Virginia! 40%! See?!?!?! 40%!!!", to now saying "Well 95% of the electorate is stupid and only me and the other 5% really know what's best for the country." After, of course, you were called out on your idiotic 40% claim. You're all over the place. Pick a tack and stick to it; people might think you're a little less crazy.
Of course, it probably doesn't help that you take perverse pride in calling yourself crazy. You think all of us haven't met at least one Ron Paul fan and gotten into a discussion with them? I've found it's impossible to have a rational talk with a Paul supporter. It's like a religion to them, and one that they feel must convert everyone around them. In other words, crazy.
Except, he claimed "20%" in the "primarieS" - plural, indicating he was claiming that 20% of GOP primary voters nationwide cast votes for Paul.
Even if you are in Virginia, which I doubt because you cherry-picked the one state where Paul got 40% (by far his largest portion, counting all the primaries), so what? Gingrich and Santorum weren't even on the ballot there and Paul STILL couldn't get a majority in what was essentially a head-to-head race with Romney.
Of course, we all know that Ron Paul supporters will spin whatever stats they can find into an indication of how Americans really want him to be president. Too bad it's only about 5% of all Americans that want that. Keep deluding yourself while the rest of us continue to live in the real world. Dismissed.
Hey, I like the way you play this game! I wanna play it too!
Which he demonstrates by having significant gender-based inequities within his own White House staff.
no he doesn't, you poopy head!
Which wasn't dis-abled before. Private parties could (and did) have at it with billions of dollars behind them. Taxpayer-based research continued with existing materials. Nobody was prevented from doing research, and indeed plenty was going on before, and after Obama's election.
You're totally lying about that!
Which, with the administrative overhead, cost taxpayers tens of thousands of dollars per car sold. An incredibly inefficient redistribution of other people's money.
You just made those numbers up, so there!
A "lot," huh? By that standard, his predecessor did exactly the same thing.
oh, yeah, prove it, asshole!
Which was inevitable and already well on its way to happening.
says YOU! not anyone else, so you're wrong
Only when pressured by the press. He didn't care about it before he was elected, or after.
oh yeah, cause you're a mind reader and you know what he cared about! sure!
You don't even know how to refer to it. Walter Reed was already slated to close, before he was elected.
You're making that up again!
The combat troop draw-down happened on the schedule set before he was elected. But of course he didn't end it, because it's not ended. There are tens of thousands of US troops there, right now, armed to the teeth. Of course you know that, and you're just trolling away, right?
now you're just re-writing history! I said so, so it's true.
Yes, he has shown that, just like other presidents, he is able to take advice from military professsionals, and approve their plans, which they then go about acting on. Bin Laden was hit based on intel that originated before he was elected, and handled by career people who were working that case before he was elected. Of course, you know all of that, too.
again your crystal ball has shown that everyone else would have done the same thing! you must be able to predict the future at all time. amazing.
He did, though, just get a massive new tax program in place, aimed squarely at middle class and lower middle class people. You know, just like he promised he would never do. But we all knew he'd do it, so he fulfilled that expectation perfectly.
except my taxes have gone down, and he's trying to raise taxes on the rich, and even the health care taxes only hit those families making more than 250k, so you're a big fat liar!
whoooo, that was fun! Thanks for teaching me how to debate with ad hominem attacks and making stuff up mixed in with every possible spin I've read on the websites of my choosing! It really added something to the discussion about Ron Paul! You're so great.
But getting back to his original point, how will this affect TPB in the least? I know that the private trackers I frequent (2 for music, 1 for TV, 1 for movies - most of you could name these with 100% accuracy wink wink) none of those 4 has advertising on their sites. It wouldn't even cause a blip on their radar.
None of you really have a problem with Facebook. Your real problem is with the human race, a large percentage of which have signed up for Facebook and whose numbers have grown so large that it's impossible for the rest of us to avoid Facebook, as it has permeated our lives whether we wanted it to or not.
It's like living in Boston and trying to avoid any mention of the Red Sox.
Gates didn't say "just throwing tablets into classrooms" doesn't work (I'd of course agree with that), he went much further and implied that given the same integration of curriculum and teacher involvement, we'd be better off throwing low-cost PCs into such a program than tablets. That's the part of his opinion (and it is an opinion) that I have a problem with.
Well said. This is more what I was trying to articulate in my comment above (and I failed miserably, I see). If I could mod you up I would. Most intelligent comment so far on this topic.
I don't hate him, I just think that this particular opinion of his has been pulled straight out of his ass. It's not like he hasn't been massively wrong before. It's just my opinion that he doesn't know whether tablets will be good for education any more than anyone else does. I happen to disagree with him, but only time will tell I suppose.
Why is anyone listening, in terms of education, to the opinion of a guy whose primary talent was taking over and copying other tech businesses? Since when did he know what direction education is going? What, because he wrote an early version of DOS he knows that tablets won't be helpful in classrooms? How does that logically follow?
Your sample size of 2 might be a bit small to declare "this happens every election year". Just as in 2008, speculators are running from oil due to perceived weakness in the economy - obviously the first time was while our economy was crashing, and this time because Europe is scaring everyone. That fact that both times were election years is (mostly) coincidence.
The tinfoil hat conspiracy theories never stop with guys like you, do they? As soon as one of your points is refuted, you invariably move on to some pure conjecture (read: bullshit) because you know you're batshit insane. Make up facts to suit what you want to believe, fine; but don't expect the rest of us to play along, crazy man.
However, their foreign policy is a heck of a lot more friendly than the US.
Oh yeah, very friendly. Except for calling for the destruction of Israel, the funding of groups like Hezbollah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad, giving weapons to the Iraqi insurgency, and attempting to put a nuclear weapon in the hands of a totalitarian theocracy, you're right, there's nothing for other nations around Iran and around the world to worry about. What a joke.
Actually he decided to commit our country to support a popular uprising against a dictator, which ultimately succeeded in deposing said dictator without putting American boots on the ground. You and I obviously have our differences if you don't see the contrast between that and Iraq2003, but I for one have no problem with the way he handled our involvement in Libya.
Iran is trying its best to be recognized by the international community as a modern Islamic democracy,
Oh for fuck's sake, give it a rest. There should be a -1 "Naive" mod for this.
I'm no apologist for the US government, they can do and continue to do terrible things, but to pretend that things in Iran are better for the average citizen than they are for the average US citizen is ridiculous.
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Your Apple-hating has gotten in the way of actual informative posting. Whoever modded you up either shares your views of Apple or didn't care to read the article you linked to.
Gartner and IDC are both right. FTFA: "Gartner reported shipments to end users and IDC reported shipments into channel (i.e. distributors)." In other words, two different sets of numbers, from which you can draw whatever conclusions you feel like drawing. For comparative purposes, the only use these numbers have are when you compare, say, Gartner's Dell #'s to Gartner's Apple #'s.
But never let facts get in the way of some good-ol'fashioned Apple bashing, I guess.
I don't think they're buying either. My wife had a laptop just to keep her from using my desktop. Once that became outdated, I got her an iPad, and she loves it. Email, websurfing, and a few games, and she's happy. Just no need for a PC. We can't be the only ones that replaced one of the full-featured PCs in the house with an iPad, or something similar.
You could argue it is, due to the close relationship between grammar and spelling in the current context. For example, he'd likely toss a resume with grammar OR spelling mistakes in it; although he didn't explicitly mention spelling errors, that part can be reasonably inferred.
I don't like seeing companies get political
Then I hope you're not living in the USA
Oh, okay. So you've gone from inflating Paul's stature by saying "Virginia! 40%! See?!?!?! 40%!!!", to now saying "Well 95% of the electorate is stupid and only me and the other 5% really know what's best for the country." After, of course, you were called out on your idiotic 40% claim. You're all over the place. Pick a tack and stick to it; people might think you're a little less crazy.
Of course, it probably doesn't help that you take perverse pride in calling yourself crazy. You think all of us haven't met at least one Ron Paul fan and gotten into a discussion with them? I've found it's impossible to have a rational talk with a Paul supporter. It's like a religion to them, and one that they feel must convert everyone around them. In other words, crazy.
Except, he claimed "20%" in the "primarieS" - plural, indicating he was claiming that 20% of GOP primary voters nationwide cast votes for Paul.
Even if you are in Virginia, which I doubt because you cherry-picked the one state where Paul got 40% (by far his largest portion, counting all the primaries), so what? Gingrich and Santorum weren't even on the ballot there and Paul STILL couldn't get a majority in what was essentially a head-to-head race with Romney.
Of course, we all know that Ron Paul supporters will spin whatever stats they can find into an indication of how Americans really want him to be president. Too bad it's only about 5% of all Americans that want that. Keep deluding yourself while the rest of us continue to live in the real world. Dismissed.
because me and the other 20% of the voters in the GOP primaries that voted for Ron Paul
You spelled "11%" wrong.
Which he demonstrates by having significant gender-based inequities within his own White House staff.
no he doesn't, you poopy head!
Which wasn't dis-abled before. Private parties could (and did) have at it with billions of dollars behind them. Taxpayer-based research continued with existing materials. Nobody was prevented from doing research, and indeed plenty was going on before, and after Obama's election.
You're totally lying about that!
Which, with the administrative overhead, cost taxpayers tens of thousands of dollars per car sold. An incredibly inefficient redistribution of other people's money.
You just made those numbers up, so there!
A "lot," huh? By that standard, his predecessor did exactly the same thing.
oh, yeah, prove it, asshole!
Which was inevitable and already well on its way to happening.
says YOU! not anyone else, so you're wrong
Only when pressured by the press. He didn't care about it before he was elected, or after.
oh yeah, cause you're a mind reader and you know what he cared about! sure!
You don't even know how to refer to it. Walter Reed was already slated to close, before he was elected.
You're making that up again!
The combat troop draw-down happened on the schedule set before he was elected. But of course he didn't end it, because it's not ended. There are tens of thousands of US troops there, right now, armed to the teeth. Of course you know that, and you're just trolling away, right?
now you're just re-writing history! I said so, so it's true.
Yes, he has shown that, just like other presidents, he is able to take advice from military professsionals, and approve their plans, which they then go about acting on. Bin Laden was hit based on intel that originated before he was elected, and handled by career people who were working that case before he was elected. Of course, you know all of that, too.
again your crystal ball has shown that everyone else would have done the same thing! you must be able to predict the future at all time. amazing.
He did, though, just get a massive new tax program in place, aimed squarely at middle class and lower middle class people. You know, just like he promised he would never do. But we all knew he'd do it, so he fulfilled that expectation perfectly.
except my taxes have gone down, and he's trying to raise taxes on the rich, and even the health care taxes only hit those families making more than 250k, so you're a big fat liar!
whoooo, that was fun! Thanks for teaching me how to debate with ad hominem attacks and making stuff up mixed in with every possible spin I've read on the websites of my choosing! It really added something to the discussion about Ron Paul! You're so great.
I know I'll get modded up for saying this, but I disagree.
ah crap!!! I did it wrong, didn't I.
Since your post is marked Score: 4, Insightful it's probably correct,
You must be new here
But getting back to his original point, how will this affect TPB in the least? I know that the private trackers I frequent (2 for music, 1 for TV, 1 for movies - most of you could name these with 100% accuracy wink wink) none of those 4 has advertising on their sites. It wouldn't even cause a blip on their radar.
He started it, he could donate 40 years' worth of new budget and never even feel it.
None of you really have a problem with Facebook. Your real problem is with the human race, a large percentage of which have signed up for Facebook and whose numbers have grown so large that it's impossible for the rest of us to avoid Facebook, as it has permeated our lives whether we wanted it to or not.
It's like living in Boston and trying to avoid any mention of the Red Sox.
Gates didn't say "just throwing tablets into classrooms" doesn't work (I'd of course agree with that), he went much further and implied that given the same integration of curriculum and teacher involvement, we'd be better off throwing low-cost PCs into such a program than tablets. That's the part of his opinion (and it is an opinion) that I have a problem with.
That iPod thing is a passing fad too.
Well said. This is more what I was trying to articulate in my comment above (and I failed miserably, I see). If I could mod you up I would. Most intelligent comment so far on this topic.
I don't hate him, I just think that this particular opinion of his has been pulled straight out of his ass. It's not like he hasn't been massively wrong before. It's just my opinion that he doesn't know whether tablets will be good for education any more than anyone else does. I happen to disagree with him, but only time will tell I suppose.
Just reading the wikipedia article a few seconds ago was worth a few chuckles. Thanks for that.
Why is anyone listening, in terms of education, to the opinion of a guy whose primary talent was taking over and copying other tech businesses? Since when did he know what direction education is going? What, because he wrote an early version of DOS he knows that tablets won't be helpful in classrooms? How does that logically follow?
Your sample size of 2 might be a bit small to declare "this happens every election year". Just as in 2008, speculators are running from oil due to perceived weakness in the economy - obviously the first time was while our economy was crashing, and this time because Europe is scaring everyone. That fact that both times were election years is (mostly) coincidence.
The tinfoil hat conspiracy theories never stop with guys like you, do they? As soon as one of your points is refuted, you invariably move on to some pure conjecture (read: bullshit) because you know you're batshit insane. Make up facts to suit what you want to believe, fine; but don't expect the rest of us to play along, crazy man.
However, their foreign policy is a heck of a lot more friendly than the US.
Oh yeah, very friendly. Except for calling for the destruction of Israel, the funding of groups like Hezbollah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad, giving weapons to the Iraqi insurgency, and attempting to put a nuclear weapon in the hands of a totalitarian theocracy, you're right, there's nothing for other nations around Iran and around the world to worry about. What a joke.
Actually he decided to commit our country to support a popular uprising against a dictator, which ultimately succeeded in deposing said dictator without putting American boots on the ground. You and I obviously have our differences if you don't see the contrast between that and Iraq2003, but I for one have no problem with the way he handled our involvement in Libya.
Iran is trying its best to be recognized by the international community as a modern Islamic democracy,
Oh for fuck's sake, give it a rest. There should be a -1 "Naive" mod for this.
I'm no apologist for the US government, they can do and continue to do terrible things, but to pretend that things in Iran are better for the average citizen than they are for the average US citizen is ridiculous.
I think your culture and mine have a different value system.