Greed?
Whose greed?
Foolish you. You assume greed == corporations.
Greed for fame?
Greed for advancement?
Greed for pushing a personal agenda?
Publish or Perish.
A landmark study can drive policy. It can shift entire ideologies. It can change a cultural mindset.
If you want answers to your questions, then I challenge you to dig into the five landmark cancer studies that they have found to be unrepeatable. I can think of a trillion reasons why studies might prove to be bullshit to benefit the Cancer Treatment Complex.
Do I need to research or even assume what would motivate Greed to twist facts and distort truth? No. All I have to do is look at history.
From TFA:
"Without efforts to reproduce the findings of others, we don't know if the facts out there actually represent what's happening in biology or not...It could be that we would be much further forward in terms of developing new cures and treatments."
Ah, there it is...the other c-word no one ever wants to hear within the Cancer Treatment Complex.
...see this as exactly what it is: an opportunity for businesses to return to a model where they make greater profits and don't have any obligations to their workers beyond today.
This is backwards thinking. I've been a contractor for years, an employer is not my mother. I get paid to do a job then when it's done I find another job. I think you'll find technology is allowing work to shift back to a needs based model, rather than filling the office floor with dead weight who only turn up for their benefits.
The idea of a permanent job is outdated, the world is moving onwards and upwards and those that adapt quickest will do the best out of it.
Automation and AI are going to work to ensure the concept of human employment becomes outdated, so the future will have nothing to do with how humans will "adapt". What will need to adapt quickly is Greed, which is working faster than most assume to create that future. Greed will need to create a stable society that can provide to sustain life and prosperity without humans working for it, while continuing to find ways to motivate humans to learn. When there are no jobs to go off and do, it tends to eradicate the motivation for higher education.
If they have trouble reproducing studies maybe they need to go back to science school. Or look up "science" on wikipedia and do more learning.
Ah, because there's no way in hell that the initial experiments could have been fabricated to favor certain outcomes, especially within the trillion-dollar Cancer Treatment Complex, right?
Yeah, you're right. Over 65% of trained researchers must be stupid or something...
Science is facing a "reproducibility crisis" where more than two-thirds of researchers have tried and failed to reproduce another scientist's experiments...
Well, damn, that's a rather huge issue. I wonder what the motivator would be to create experiments of questionable validity in the first place?
...which attempted to repeat the findings reported in five landmark cancer studies...
Ah, there's the trillion-dollar answer. I see Greed N. Corruption is still in charge...
If you have a troll problem, then moderate properly by banning. Censorship is not the answer because truth will ultimately suffer.
The definition of toxic will never be a constant, and I can already seen forums looking for revenue streams to favor those paying for certain "filters".
If they stripped 90% of the crap out of the car and focused on the drivetrain it would be a different story. But it seems that they have fallen into an "experience" trap, and have driven away a large segment of the population that could care less about an technology based everything.
I'd say a $100K price tag is what drove away a large segment of the population, which is why they're looking to sell a stripped-down $35K model. Given the insane popularity of the "gadget" market today, people love technology based everything.
...that will never work.
That would cost more to manufacture, and you would sell less bottles as you would squeeze more out of each.
I cannot see how the manufacturers would be interested in that.
Of course it can work.
It's called collusion, and the entire manufacturing industry will likely squeeze at least a 100% profit out of the additional cost.
They said it would be better at reducing waste. No one promised cheaper.
People give a shit about privacy. They just don't understand it and (more importantly) how and when its being compromised.
The biggest issue is a disconnect between where privacy is compromised and where its expected to be compromised. If I post a picture of my dog to Facebook and share it with my friends, I expect that only my friends will be able to see it. That's seems like a pretty reasonable assumption.
However, because its on FB's server, I no longer have control over the picture and that's the tricky part that many people fail to understand because there isn't really a real-world equivalent to hosting a picture on someone else' server -- at least not without invoking some heavily constructed scenarios that would be just as hard for an average person to understand as the actual problem.
At the end of the day, ignorance is ignorance whether its intentional or not, but in the unintentional case we have at least the possibility of informing people and reducing the amount of ignorance toward the issue. Unfortunately we've been pretty unsuccessful in that context as well since for the most part, all of this privacy invasion has been fairly subtle and unintrusive to the average person so its hard to convince them that there is even a problem that they're ignorant of, never mind correcting that ignorance.
People will gladly give up privacy in exchange for a "free" price tag. The top 10 worst passwords consumers use today have not changed in decades, regardless of the obvious rise in hacking and identity theft, caused by using shitty passwords. The fitness guru who gets offended when a website drops a cookie wears a fitness tracker 24/7. The consumer shocked by the invasive nature of targeted ads owns an always-on listening device in their home, because "convenience". The social media addict who streams and tweets their entire vacation wonders how the criminal knew they weren't home. The user who's laptop hard drive failed three times still doesn't back their data up to the server.
Ignorance is ignorance, but we seem to be beyond that. We're now in a state of willful ignorance. Also known as not giving a shit, which tends to reinforce my original point.
As far as informing people, damn near everything comes with a EULA today, and yet no one actually reads them.
In the end, I'm certain that people will complain about no one warning them about the consequences of not giving a shit. All I can say is 1984 was written over half a century ago.
There is no "99% of society who doesn't care(paraphrased)."
There is just a lot of people who don't know yet that they are being spied on, or at least they don't know the extent of it.
These corporations spying on entire cities and playing law is the definition of fascism.
A lot of people...don't know?
Smartphones and human-tracking fitness devices. Social media narcissists. Consumers gladly giving up privacy for "free" apps. IoT security dismissed as optional. Always-on listening devices in homes for "convenience". Incessant hacking and identity theft due to addiction to shitty passwords.
All of this activity continues today, half a fucking century after 1984 was penned.
All fascism needs, is mass ignorance. Wake me when the status quo changes.
If you don't control yourself, you will be controlled. That is the way it has always been. You know it exists. Are you going to use it to control yourself, or are you going to let others use it to control you?
Feel free to elaborate on this poetic advice as your Rights dissolve faster than a Millennials Starbucks account.
how long after bio compatible micro computers with gps are developed will be mandatory to implant it in every new born for their own security well being and convenience?
the advantages will be shown so obvious that nobody will want to look to its draw backs
It's funny you think we have to wait for implants when today the vast majority of Americans carry around a GPS-enabled tracking device pretty much at all times.
Ironically, they call it a smart device, and the age at which a child is handed this gateway to social media addiction and hardcore porn is shrinking by the minute. You know, because "safety"...
For the other 99% of society who doesn't give a shit about privacy anymore, they don't care about the abuse, including the cost of implementing or maintaining this for little or no real value.
I used to believe this right up until Snowden and associated public polling proved me wrong.
Snowden didn't change a fucking thing. He only validated my statement.
It doesn't matter how smart people are, what they believe or how much they assert they care. It only matters what they actually do.
Exactly, which is why even Snowden didn't actually change a fucking thing when it comes to consumer behavior and privacy. Unjustified Control mechanisms will continue to be put in place, Rights will continue to deteriorate, and no one will fight it, because no one cares.
...Shifting from stable except in specific ignition fuels to dangerous at all times lithium batteries that explode violently doesn't improve safety.
Death by Tesla battery is still very rare when looking at all accidents, battery safety designs are always improving, and the key shift here is EV is set out to replace the "dangerous at all times" gasoline powered cars, a fuel source that all the technology in the world cannot make less flammable or explosive.
No, I don't own a Tesla. Just stating the obvious.
It's the worry for the very small fraction of intelligent people who already know how will be abused.
For the other 99% of society who doesn't give a shit about privacy anymore, they don't care about the abuse, including the cost of implementing or maintaining this for little or no real value.
This isn't about traffic or crime. This is about Control.
... so perhaps you can stop blaming the organization named after Drunk Driving
If they had stuck to that they'd be fine, but they didn't. They've branched into all forms of anti-alcohol activism, to the point that their founder left the organization in protest. Their goals include:
Enacting primary enforcement seat belt laws in all states.
Reducing underage drinking.
Increasing beer excise taxes to the same level as those for spirits.
A lot of that list has nothing to do with drunk driving
Seat belt laws and combating underage drinking? Sounds like MADD is simply in need of a name change; People for Common Fucking Sense.
The "gig" economy is a bullshit attempt to glamorize and hide the real issue, which is a population outpacing the availability stable employment that provides necessary benefits.
That's one way to look at it.
Another way is that automation will make lots of things cheaper and more widely available, so people won't need to work 40hours a week just to eat and put a roof over their head. The 'gig economy' could just a small bump during the transition to what could be the next great epoch in human development.
Unless human development is going to somehow change the pure unadulterated Greed that the 1% demands, the only thing the masses will transition to is Welfare 2.0 on a global scale.
Costs will not decrease relative to a 20-hour workweek because of Greed, so don't think for a second you'll be afforded a living wage any better than the "gig" economy is providing.
How exactly is a gig economy going to provide benefits for things like starting a family. How will that family cope when tragedy strikes as no life insurance benefit is offered.
They don't need to start a family. Families are for people who can afford them. Millennials aren't starting families, so they don't need jobs that provide the luxury of having enough money for one. We need to just leave having families to the ultra-rich.
Well, that's certainly a rather fucked argument. With the "hook-up" generation, there certainly is no shortage of sex happening, so unplanned families are going to happen regardless of want or need. Not to mention the Millennials who happen to actually want a family.
Establishing a retirement plan to fund life after employment or carrying insurance to help pay for the inevitable should never be viewed as a "luxury".
Instability should never be viewed as a good thing.
It's the best we can do these days. We just need to accept it and get used to it.
If that is the attitude of tomorrow, then we shouldn't be surprised when slavery becomes legal again in the name of unending Greed that races to establish the worlds first trillionaires.
Given the impacts I've pointed out, I won't have to say a damn word to those who seem to "like" this.
Life will eventually slap them in the fucking face, as wisdom and experience have taught many.
I know plenty of people with wisdom and experience who make a very good living as independent contractors. They have plenty of opportunities to find full time positions but vastly prefer their current arrangement.
The problems you mention seem to only be the case when current workers are being paid more than the economic value they provide.
A life-changing car accident. A cancer diagnosis. A pregnancy. The problems I describe are often in the realm of accidents, which no human can accurately predict when that may happen to them or how often, and have jack shit to do with workers being overvalued. This is also why so many of us value those critical insurance benefits, along with the stability of full-time employment; to not only prepare for when life happens, but also create a career that will hopefully fund the concept of retirement.
Corporate Greed will certainly prefer a "gig" economy that does not favor being prepared for life, which is the reason we should not let it continue to grow as the preferred economy.
Oh look. Another person who thinks they should run other peoples lives. How original. These people seem to like it at this point in their lives. Who are you to tell them any different?
Given the impacts I've pointed out, I won't have to say a damn word to those who seem to "like" this.
Life will eventually slap them in the fucking face, as wisdom and experience have taught many.
Its very easy to talk about money not mattering and wanting an interesting life when you don't have to worry about rent or bills. Part of being an adult is accepting responsibility for your own fate and - unless you want to live in a hut in the woods or a park bench - than means finding the money to pay the above.
The "gig" economy is just (usually rich) hipster talk for dead end park time McJobs thats been repackaged and remarketed for the latest gullible generation of 20 somethings who haven't yet wised up.
Perhaps the gullible ones here are the parental enablers of hipsters ascribing for nothing more than an "interesting" life at the cost of their providers.
...I agree with you that at the very least members of the military should be able to purchase liquor. It's asinine that somebody can face bullets, or vote, or get legally married, but not be mature enough to purchase alcohol. Thanks MADD!
Maturity is not magically instilled by wearing a military uniform, which I've seen first-hand. It often comes with life experience, so perhaps you can stop blaming the organization named after Drunk Driving, and instead understand the statistics that clearly present the reasons why young adults should not be drinking, gambling, or even renting cars until they gain a bit more life experience.
Given the divorce rate and our last few elections, perhaps statistics should be driving up the legal age of other activities as well.
If Super bowl commercials were so wasteful, companies would not spend money on them...
Yeah right.
So many utterly pointless and stupid Superbowl commercials have taken place over the history of that advertising, which offered nothing more than a tax write-off.
Companies piss away plenty of money on pointless shit that has nothing to do with sales. Superbowl commercials are not an example of that, they are the example.
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Greed? Whose greed? Foolish you. You assume greed == corporations. Greed for fame? Greed for advancement? Greed for pushing a personal agenda? Publish or Perish.
A landmark study can drive policy. It can shift entire ideologies. It can change a cultural mindset.
If you want answers to your questions, then I challenge you to dig into the five landmark cancer studies that they have found to be unrepeatable. I can think of a trillion reasons why studies might prove to be bullshit to benefit the Cancer Treatment Complex.
Do I need to research or even assume what would motivate Greed to twist facts and distort truth? No. All I have to do is look at history.
From TFA:
"Without efforts to reproduce the findings of others, we don't know if the facts out there actually represent what's happening in biology or not...It could be that we would be much further forward in terms of developing new cures and treatments."
Ah, there it is ...the other c-word no one ever wants to hear within the Cancer Treatment Complex.
'Nuff said.
...see this as exactly what it is: an opportunity for businesses to return to a model where they make greater profits and don't have any obligations to their workers beyond today.
This is backwards thinking. I've been a contractor for years, an employer is not my mother. I get paid to do a job then when it's done I find another job. I think you'll find technology is allowing work to shift back to a needs based model, rather than filling the office floor with dead weight who only turn up for their benefits. The idea of a permanent job is outdated, the world is moving onwards and upwards and those that adapt quickest will do the best out of it.
Automation and AI are going to work to ensure the concept of human employment becomes outdated, so the future will have nothing to do with how humans will "adapt". What will need to adapt quickly is Greed, which is working faster than most assume to create that future. Greed will need to create a stable society that can provide to sustain life and prosperity without humans working for it, while continuing to find ways to motivate humans to learn. When there are no jobs to go off and do, it tends to eradicate the motivation for higher education.
If they have trouble reproducing studies maybe they need to go back to science school. Or look up "science" on wikipedia and do more learning.
Ah, because there's no way in hell that the initial experiments could have been fabricated to favor certain outcomes, especially within the trillion-dollar Cancer Treatment Complex, right?
Yeah, you're right. Over 65% of trained researchers must be stupid or something...
Science is facing a "reproducibility crisis" where more than two-thirds of researchers have tried and failed to reproduce another scientist's experiments...
Well, damn, that's a rather huge issue. I wonder what the motivator would be to create experiments of questionable validity in the first place?
...which attempted to repeat the findings reported in five landmark cancer studies...
Ah, there's the trillion-dollar answer. I see Greed N. Corruption is still in charge...
If you have a troll problem, then moderate properly by banning. Censorship is not the answer because truth will ultimately suffer.
The definition of toxic will never be a constant, and I can already seen forums looking for revenue streams to favor those paying for certain "filters".
If they stripped 90% of the crap out of the car and focused on the drivetrain it would be a different story. But it seems that they have fallen into an "experience" trap, and have driven away a large segment of the population that could care less about an technology based everything.
I'd say a $100K price tag is what drove away a large segment of the population, which is why they're looking to sell a stripped-down $35K model. Given the insane popularity of the "gadget" market today, people love technology based everything.
...that will never work. That would cost more to manufacture, and you would sell less bottles as you would squeeze more out of each. I cannot see how the manufacturers would be interested in that.
Of course it can work.
It's called collusion, and the entire manufacturing industry will likely squeeze at least a 100% profit out of the additional cost.
They said it would be better at reducing waste. No one promised cheaper.
People give a shit about privacy. They just don't understand it and (more importantly) how and when its being compromised.
The biggest issue is a disconnect between where privacy is compromised and where its expected to be compromised. If I post a picture of my dog to Facebook and share it with my friends, I expect that only my friends will be able to see it. That's seems like a pretty reasonable assumption.
However, because its on FB's server, I no longer have control over the picture and that's the tricky part that many people fail to understand because there isn't really a real-world equivalent to hosting a picture on someone else' server -- at least not without invoking some heavily constructed scenarios that would be just as hard for an average person to understand as the actual problem.
At the end of the day, ignorance is ignorance whether its intentional or not, but in the unintentional case we have at least the possibility of informing people and reducing the amount of ignorance toward the issue. Unfortunately we've been pretty unsuccessful in that context as well since for the most part, all of this privacy invasion has been fairly subtle and unintrusive to the average person so its hard to convince them that there is even a problem that they're ignorant of, never mind correcting that ignorance.
People will gladly give up privacy in exchange for a "free" price tag. The top 10 worst passwords consumers use today have not changed in decades, regardless of the obvious rise in hacking and identity theft, caused by using shitty passwords. The fitness guru who gets offended when a website drops a cookie wears a fitness tracker 24/7. The consumer shocked by the invasive nature of targeted ads owns an always-on listening device in their home, because "convenience". The social media addict who streams and tweets their entire vacation wonders how the criminal knew they weren't home. The user who's laptop hard drive failed three times still doesn't back their data up to the server.
Ignorance is ignorance, but we seem to be beyond that. We're now in a state of willful ignorance. Also known as not giving a shit, which tends to reinforce my original point.
As far as informing people, damn near everything comes with a EULA today, and yet no one actually reads them.
In the end, I'm certain that people will complain about no one warning them about the consequences of not giving a shit. All I can say is 1984 was written over half a century ago.
There is no "99% of society who doesn't care(paraphrased)." There is just a lot of people who don't know yet that they are being spied on, or at least they don't know the extent of it. These corporations spying on entire cities and playing law is the definition of fascism.
A lot of people...don't know?
Smartphones and human-tracking fitness devices. Social media narcissists. Consumers gladly giving up privacy for "free" apps. IoT security dismissed as optional. Always-on listening devices in homes for "convenience". Incessant hacking and identity theft due to addiction to shitty passwords.
All of this activity continues today, half a fucking century after 1984 was penned.
All fascism needs, is mass ignorance. Wake me when the status quo changes.
If you don't control yourself, you will be controlled. That is the way it has always been. You know it exists. Are you going to use it to control yourself, or are you going to let others use it to control you?
Feel free to elaborate on this poetic advice as your Rights dissolve faster than a Millennials Starbucks account.
You act as if We are still gifted with choice.
how long after bio compatible micro computers with gps are developed will be mandatory to implant it in every new born for their own security well being and convenience? the advantages will be shown so obvious that nobody will want to look to its draw backs
It's funny you think we have to wait for implants when today the vast majority of Americans carry around a GPS-enabled tracking device pretty much at all times.
Ironically, they call it a smart device, and the age at which a child is handed this gateway to social media addiction and hardcore porn is shrinking by the minute. You know, because "safety"...
For the other 99% of society who doesn't give a shit about privacy anymore, they don't care about the abuse, including the cost of implementing or maintaining this for little or no real value.
I used to believe this right up until Snowden and associated public polling proved me wrong.
Snowden didn't change a fucking thing. He only validated my statement.
It doesn't matter how smart people are, what they believe or how much they assert they care. It only matters what they actually do.
Exactly, which is why even Snowden didn't actually change a fucking thing when it comes to consumer behavior and privacy. Unjustified Control mechanisms will continue to be put in place, Rights will continue to deteriorate, and no one will fight it, because no one cares.
...Shifting from stable except in specific ignition fuels to dangerous at all times lithium batteries that explode violently doesn't improve safety.
Death by Tesla battery is still very rare when looking at all accidents, battery safety designs are always improving, and the key shift here is EV is set out to replace the "dangerous at all times" gasoline powered cars, a fuel source that all the technology in the world cannot make less flammable or explosive.
No, I don't own a Tesla. Just stating the obvious.
And, everything to this car is way more expensive than others. And body collision, even small will cost you $5K+ ~ $10K.
This is a car that retails for $100 - $150K. Feel free to compare those repair costs to any other car in that same price range.
You're sure as shit not shopping at Walmart to do body work on a Porsche 911...
u don't have any expectation of privacy
I can't believe you hold an expectation that people give a shit about privacy anymore, regardless of location.
and other tasks
That's the worry.
It's the worry for the very small fraction of intelligent people who already know how will be abused.
For the other 99% of society who doesn't give a shit about privacy anymore, they don't care about the abuse, including the cost of implementing or maintaining this for little or no real value.
This isn't about traffic or crime. This is about Control.
... so perhaps you can stop blaming the organization named after Drunk Driving
If they had stuck to that they'd be fine, but they didn't. They've branched into all forms of anti-alcohol activism, to the point that their founder left the organization in protest. Their goals include:
A lot of that list has nothing to do with drunk driving
Seat belt laws and combating underage drinking? Sounds like MADD is simply in need of a name change; People for Common Fucking Sense.
The "gig" economy is a bullshit attempt to glamorize and hide the real issue, which is a population outpacing the availability stable employment that provides necessary benefits.
That's one way to look at it. Another way is that automation will make lots of things cheaper and more widely available, so people won't need to work 40hours a week just to eat and put a roof over their head. The 'gig economy' could just a small bump during the transition to what could be the next great epoch in human development.
Unless human development is going to somehow change the pure unadulterated Greed that the 1% demands, the only thing the masses will transition to is Welfare 2.0 on a global scale.
Costs will not decrease relative to a 20-hour workweek because of Greed, so don't think for a second you'll be afforded a living wage any better than the "gig" economy is providing.
I guess it might give your employer a reason to remove Netflix from the blacklist?
Corporate whitelisting of Netflix services.
Thank you for helping identify the Netflix Ulterior Motive.
How exactly is a gig economy going to provide benefits for things like starting a family. How will that family cope when tragedy strikes as no life insurance benefit is offered.
They don't need to start a family. Families are for people who can afford them. Millennials aren't starting families, so they don't need jobs that provide the luxury of having enough money for one. We need to just leave having families to the ultra-rich.
Well, that's certainly a rather fucked argument. With the "hook-up" generation, there certainly is no shortage of sex happening, so unplanned families are going to happen regardless of want or need. Not to mention the Millennials who happen to actually want a family.
Establishing a retirement plan to fund life after employment or carrying insurance to help pay for the inevitable should never be viewed as a "luxury".
Instability should never be viewed as a good thing.
It's the best we can do these days. We just need to accept it and get used to it.
If that is the attitude of tomorrow, then we shouldn't be surprised when slavery becomes legal again in the name of unending Greed that races to establish the worlds first trillionaires.
Given the impacts I've pointed out, I won't have to say a damn word to those who seem to "like" this.
Life will eventually slap them in the fucking face, as wisdom and experience have taught many.
I know plenty of people with wisdom and experience who make a very good living as independent contractors. They have plenty of opportunities to find full time positions but vastly prefer their current arrangement.
The problems you mention seem to only be the case when current workers are being paid more than the economic value they provide.
A life-changing car accident. A cancer diagnosis. A pregnancy. The problems I describe are often in the realm of accidents, which no human can accurately predict when that may happen to them or how often, and have jack shit to do with workers being overvalued. This is also why so many of us value those critical insurance benefits, along with the stability of full-time employment; to not only prepare for when life happens, but also create a career that will hopefully fund the concept of retirement.
Corporate Greed will certainly prefer a "gig" economy that does not favor being prepared for life, which is the reason we should not let it continue to grow as the preferred economy.
Oh look. Another person who thinks they should run other peoples lives. How original. These people seem to like it at this point in their lives. Who are you to tell them any different?
Given the impacts I've pointed out, I won't have to say a damn word to those who seem to "like" this.
Life will eventually slap them in the fucking face, as wisdom and experience have taught many.
"moving out from underneath Mom and Dads roof;"
Its very easy to talk about money not mattering and wanting an interesting life when you don't have to worry about rent or bills. Part of being an adult is accepting responsibility for your own fate and - unless you want to live in a hut in the woods or a park bench - than means finding the money to pay the above.
The "gig" economy is just (usually rich) hipster talk for dead end park time McJobs thats been repackaged and remarketed for the latest gullible generation of 20 somethings who haven't yet wised up.
Perhaps the gullible ones here are the parental enablers of hipsters ascribing for nothing more than an "interesting" life at the cost of their providers.
...I agree with you that at the very least members of the military should be able to purchase liquor. It's asinine that somebody can face bullets, or vote, or get legally married, but not be mature enough to purchase alcohol. Thanks MADD!
Maturity is not magically instilled by wearing a military uniform, which I've seen first-hand. It often comes with life experience, so perhaps you can stop blaming the organization named after Drunk Driving, and instead understand the statistics that clearly present the reasons why young adults should not be drinking, gambling, or even renting cars until they gain a bit more life experience.
Given the divorce rate and our last few elections, perhaps statistics should be driving up the legal age of other activities as well.
If Super bowl commercials were so wasteful, companies would not spend money on them...
Yeah right.
So many utterly pointless and stupid Superbowl commercials have taken place over the history of that advertising, which offered nothing more than a tax write-off.
Companies piss away plenty of money on pointless shit that has nothing to do with sales. Superbowl commercials are not an example of that, they are the example.