What planet do these guys live on?.NET and C# are being destroyed in the market. Go to Monster.com or Dice.com and do a search on Java/J2EE/JEE versus.NET/C#.
Java has won and the complexity of the platform is merely a sign of its maturity. Also, no shop uses everything--they use what they want and build their own stack. That's not something that's possible in the.NET world where, to paraphrase Henry Ford, you can have any color as long as it's.NET/C#. They define the stack, not you.
I gave up on Microsoft technologies in 1998 and have never spent another dime on any MS products since. I marvel that people still do, given he torrent of trojans/viruses and other malware that plague the platform.
Folks,
Why on earth are people still bothering with the crap software produced by Microsoft. Their brand-spanking-new Windows7 is turning out to be buggy. To quote Gomer Pyle: "Surprise surprise surprise".
VMWare is not provided by Mac. It's a 3rd party app so your comments about what "Apple recognizes" are really meaningless.
Whatever speed improvements were made in Vista or Windows 7 are irrelevant as we dumped MS with XP.
I find it amusing to see how you Microsoft-users bend over backwards to accept all the problems that come with the MS ecosystem.
As for what I do in my free time, I will wait until the thriller novel I just turned into my agent Oct 25th is published. At one time I played games and watched sports on TV and now I have put away childish things. Go ahead and blast away, dude. When you're gray haired, you call tell your grandkids about all the games you played in your life... I'm sure they'll be really impressed. And thank you for the final "f. U." as that tells me my point hit home... Personally, I have lots to occupy my life without resorting to playing some game.
All our Macs came with VMWare boot camp to allow us to run Windows but no one does.
The major reason we switched to Macs was speed. Our old Windows boxes were top end but they were overwhelmed and the running the same applications on Mac is trivial.
You say that Macs are not intuitive but you're forgetting that your idea of what is "intuitive" is colored by your Microsoft-centric experience. I started on Macs and then for a few years switched to Windows and then back to Macs forever.
You people who are in bed with Microsoft don't realize that it truly is better to run on mac.
You also may be right about the availability of "games" but frankly I cannot think of a less useful thing to spend my time on. If your goal is to waste your one and only life playing games, then be my guest. At the end of your life are you going to be glad you spent it chasing the Gorgon or blasting away? If that is your idea of a satisfying life then I wish you the best...
Dude,
I have never encountered any problems whatsoever with my Mac. All day long I do hard-core enterprise development. My company en masse switched all developers from Windows to Macs. I am not advocating Linux because I know of its desktop woes. However, I have yet to encounter any application that I couldn't use. I have no idea what you're referring to, while on my old Windows box (XP) it was a damned nightmare all the time. You have just drunk the MS kool aid and don't realize it. What is your Mac experience? I have used it back since system 7 and now of course OS X is a joy. There's a reason that Macs sold hugely this last year--people have caught on to the crap coming out of Redmond and they're not going to take it anymore. No matter what you may say, nothing on earth could induce me to go back to Windows. "Windows: It just sucks." (should be their new jingle)
OpenOffice.org?
Funny, I was bought Microsoft's products several times and always regretted it. I have never regretted anything I bought from Apple.
Go ahead and rue your wasted money on Microsoft products. They suck and no amount of whining by MS Fanboys can change that.
So, one must assume you are in complete agreement with me, since both of those products with vulnerabilities are made by Microsoft. I just wonder what rock someone must have been living under to not notice the steady stream of bad news coming out of Redmond. Microsoft just produces total and complete crap, from the first to the last byte.
Once again I am delighted that I switched to Mac. The entire Windows ecosystem is riddled with these sorts of design flaws. What more reason can anyone need to get off of Microsoft?
Speaking as a former professor who has written two entire semesters of Powerpoint lectures in Java, I think the medium is especially effective if the professor knows the material. I gave away my lectures and posted them online forever, so my students loved them. I also do not use powerpoint as just static slides. I use the animation feature to simulate the execution of code, showing (not telling) how variables are handled, how pass by value versus pass by reference works--things like that. It is really valuable if the professor is not a lazy sack of shit. That's the real problem--lazy professors. Profs who write their own lectures are anything but lazy.
What kind of insanity the whole thing is. The water that flows into the Arkansas river is what everybody downstream drinks. Then it goes into the ocean. No wonder the damned oceans are dying. The insanity is allowing a company to think they are profitable when their profit relies on disregarding this sort of mega pollution!
You missed my point entirely. I completely agree on the urgent need to fund scientific research--but research that addresses current pressing needs.
I applaud the past research done by NASA. However, that research is done. We need to focus our scientific research--which agreed should be increased--but only on current pressing needs. I fail to see how a trip to the Moon or Mars is going to address the obviously pressing needs we have on this planet for green energy and to address climate change.
Merely because you prefer to spend money on NASA, you are conflating NASA research with all scientific research. The two are not necessarily connected. It is possible to do tons of pure scientific research that does not send people or machines to the Moon or Mars.
You must have some vested interest that you're not disclosing. There is plenty of pure scientific research that does not revolve around blasting off into space.
Once you stop the wheel...True Aerospace engineering expertise exists...True Tell me, as an engineer who recently graduated...True but nobody promised anybody a job Those engineers might want to design rockets...True
I agree those things piss me off too. However, that is an argument for eliminating those wasteful items of spending, NOT an argument for wasting MORE money in NASA.
I agree the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs hugely expanded our knowledge.
The Space Shuttle really did not and even less so the International Space Station. I believe the ISS should have been canceled even though at the time I was all for it. It served no great purpose other than providing a vacation location for millionaires with $20 million.
I never said it will not be [note: future tense construction] important. But, again, we don't have the money for it now.
For example: spending $500 billion dollars to find a cure for cancer will be very important. [We can't afford it right now.]
Even if I read up on the mission objectives--that does not create money out of thin air to pay for it! Why does every Space Travel Booster (I consider myself one) totally disregard the cost! This is so frustrating. Are you little children who can't see the obvious. No matter now important it is--if we can't pay for it--it's unattainable right now. Maybe in 20 years we will be able to afford it but right now--we can't!
So, since you're more than willing to allow [other] people to shoulder some pain so you can have your gee-wiz moments of watching blast offs, I would bet it's fair to say you're not on disability. How magnanimous of you.
[Full disclosure: I have never taken any sort of government benefit and am not on any now.]
I agree that in the long term space travel will be deemed very important. However, that does not create the funds to pay for it. You sidestepped my point, which is that we cannot afford it.
As for your politically-based comment regarding Climate Change, you're just showing your Right-Wing Jackassedness, Mr. UK.
So, your lack of an argument is showing. And my response? Go to Hell
Though I have always adored the thought and reality of space travel--this is just a luxury we cannot afford now. There is no pressing problem that would cause this need to travel to the Moon or Mars to occur.
We have so many problems in the United States right now and I really don't see why this is necessary. Since this just recycles Space Shuttle technology, I don't see that this Ares I rocket represents any innovation that would justify the expense.
Though I know all the Aerospace Engineers are going to hate me for killing off their jobs program, there are other scientific needs--such as the need to develop clean energy sources and stop global Climate Change in its tracks--that warrant priority over any dough we spend at NASA.
Example of International Space Station
Currently, for example, the ISS is slated to be decommissioned in a few short years. I ask you, what sort of great innovation has resulted from the ISS? I am hard-pressed to think of any great advances in knowledge that were not already known from by the time the cruddy but long-surviving MIR burned up in the atmosphere.
Again, though I adore seeing these rockets take off and follow every STS-n mission with great interest, it's just a joyride and is not justified in a country like ours that is in danger of becoming a has-been global power.
NASA should halt the Ares-I and, even more painful because it would have been the biggest rocket to date, the Ares V. They are boondoggles that do not solve a pressing problem.
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What planet do these guys live on? .NET and C# are being destroyed in the market. Go to Monster.com or Dice.com and do a search on Java/J2EE/JEE versus .NET/C#.
Java has won and the complexity of the platform is merely a sign of its maturity. Also, no shop uses everything--they use what they want and build their own stack. That's not something that's possible in the .NET world where, to paraphrase Henry Ford, you can have any color as long as it's .NET/C#. They define the stack, not you.
I gave up on Microsoft technologies in 1998 and have never spent another dime on any MS products since. I marvel that people still do, given he torrent of trojans/viruses and other malware that plague the platform.
Folks, Why on earth are people still bothering with the crap software produced by Microsoft. Their brand-spanking-new Windows7 is turning out to be buggy. To quote Gomer Pyle: "Surprise surprise surprise".
VMWare is not provided by Mac. It's a 3rd party app so your comments about what "Apple recognizes" are really meaningless.
Whatever speed improvements were made in Vista or Windows 7 are irrelevant as we dumped MS with XP.
I find it amusing to see how you Microsoft-users bend over backwards to accept all the problems that come with the MS ecosystem.
As for what I do in my free time, I will wait until the thriller novel I just turned into my agent Oct 25th is published. At one time I played games and watched sports on TV and now I have put away childish things. Go ahead and blast away, dude. When you're gray haired, you call tell your grandkids about all the games you played in your life... I'm sure they'll be really impressed. And thank you for the final "f. U." as that tells me my point hit home... Personally, I have lots to occupy my life without resorting to playing some game.
All our Macs came with VMWare boot camp to allow us to run Windows but no one does. The major reason we switched to Macs was speed. Our old Windows boxes were top end but they were overwhelmed and the running the same applications on Mac is trivial. You say that Macs are not intuitive but you're forgetting that your idea of what is "intuitive" is colored by your Microsoft-centric experience. I started on Macs and then for a few years switched to Windows and then back to Macs forever.
You people who are in bed with Microsoft don't realize that it truly is better to run on mac.
You also may be right about the availability of "games" but frankly I cannot think of a less useful thing to spend my time on. If your goal is to waste your one and only life playing games, then be my guest. At the end of your life are you going to be glad you spent it chasing the Gorgon or blasting away? If that is your idea of a satisfying life then I wish you the best...
Dude, I have never encountered any problems whatsoever with my Mac. All day long I do hard-core enterprise development. My company en masse switched all developers from Windows to Macs. I am not advocating Linux because I know of its desktop woes. However, I have yet to encounter any application that I couldn't use. I have no idea what you're referring to, while on my old Windows box (XP) it was a damned nightmare all the time. You have just drunk the MS kool aid and don't realize it. What is your Mac experience? I have used it back since system 7 and now of course OS X is a joy. There's a reason that Macs sold hugely this last year--people have caught on to the crap coming out of Redmond and they're not going to take it anymore. No matter what you may say, nothing on earth could induce me to go back to Windows. "Windows: It just sucks." (should be their new jingle)
Okay, regarding security, I would rank them like this:
Apple A-
Microsoft F-
Sounds like the choice is Cupertino over Redmond, all the way.
OpenOffice.org? Funny, I was bought Microsoft's products several times and always regretted it. I have never regretted anything I bought from Apple. Go ahead and rue your wasted money on Microsoft products. They suck and no amount of whining by MS Fanboys can change that.
So, one must assume you are in complete agreement with me, since both of those products with vulnerabilities are made by Microsoft. I just wonder what rock someone must have been living under to not notice the steady stream of bad news coming out of Redmond. Microsoft just produces total and complete crap, from the first to the last byte.
Once again I am delighted that I switched to Mac. The entire Windows ecosystem is riddled with these sorts of design flaws. What more reason can anyone need to get off of Microsoft?
Speaking as a former professor who has written two entire semesters of Powerpoint lectures in Java, I think the medium is especially effective if the professor knows the material. I gave away my lectures and posted them online forever, so my students loved them. I also do not use powerpoint as just static slides. I use the animation feature to simulate the execution of code, showing (not telling) how variables are handled, how pass by value versus pass by reference works--things like that. It is really valuable if the professor is not a lazy sack of shit. That's the real problem--lazy professors. Profs who write their own lectures are anything but lazy.
What kind of insanity the whole thing is. The water that flows into the Arkansas river is what everybody downstream drinks. Then it goes into the ocean. No wonder the damned oceans are dying. The insanity is allowing a company to think they are profitable when their profit relies on disregarding this sort of mega pollution!
Thank you. If one is advocating to spend more money, everybody is happy. Take a critical eye to any Sacred Cow and you're a pariah.
You, sir, may be a weak advocate for your opinions but I am not. If you have an opinion, support it vigorously.
You missed my point entirely. I completely agree on the urgent need to fund scientific research--but research that addresses current pressing needs.
I applaud the past research done by NASA. However, that research is done. We need to focus our scientific research--which agreed should be increased--but only on current pressing needs. I fail to see how a trip to the Moon or Mars is going to address the obviously pressing needs we have on this planet for green energy and to address climate change.
Merely because you prefer to spend money on NASA, you are conflating NASA research with all scientific research. The two are not necessarily connected. It is possible to do tons of pure scientific research that does not send people or machines to the Moon or Mars.
You must have some vested interest that you're not disclosing. There is plenty of pure scientific research that does not revolve around blasting off into space.
Once you stop the wheel... True
Aerospace engineering expertise exists... True
Tell me, as an engineer who recently graduated... True but nobody promised anybody a job
Those engineers might want to design rockets... True
True true true... we still can't afford it!
I share your rage at the bankers. Being as I work in Midtown Manhattan, I walk around these bastards on a daily basis.
Alas, that does not provide a reason for us to blow money on the space program. Conflating the two is meaningless.
If you are pissed at the things our government wastes money on, that's an argument for eliminating that waste--NOT for wasting more.
What, is there an expiration date on space travel? What a ridiculous statement. Trust me, it will be waiting for us.
Not true. Has there ever been a time when we were engaging in Space Travel while our country was going through a Greater Depression?
I don't think so. Sadly, this is a time when we cannot afford this.
I agree those things piss me off too. However, that is an argument for eliminating those wasteful items of spending, NOT an argument for wasting MORE money in NASA.
I agree the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs hugely expanded our knowledge.
The Space Shuttle really did not and even less so the International Space Station. I believe the ISS should have been canceled even though at the time I was all for it. It served no great purpose other than providing a vacation location for millionaires with $20 million.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Just because a luxury is not a high percentage of our budget--does not justify it.
I never said it will not be [note: future tense construction] important. But, again, we don't have the money for it now.
For example: spending $500 billion dollars to find a cure for cancer will be very important. [We can't afford it right now.]
Even if I read up on the mission objectives--that does not create money out of thin air to pay for it! Why does every Space Travel Booster (I consider myself one) totally disregard the cost! This is so frustrating. Are you little children who can't see the obvious. No matter now important it is--if we can't pay for it--it's unattainable right now. Maybe in 20 years we will be able to afford it but right now--we can't!
So, since you're more than willing to allow [other] people to shoulder some pain so you can have your gee-wiz moments of watching blast offs, I would bet it's fair to say you're not on disability. How magnanimous of you.
[Full disclosure: I have never taken any sort of government benefit and am not on any now.]
I agree that in the long term space travel will be deemed very important. However, that does not create the funds to pay for it. You sidestepped my point, which is that we cannot afford it.
As for your politically-based comment regarding Climate Change, you're just showing your Right-Wing Jackassedness, Mr. UK.
So, your lack of an argument is showing. And my response? Go to Hell
So what? That's logic on a par with "two wrongs make a right." 2006 dollars or 2009 ones--we cannot afford it right now.
Though I have always adored the thought and reality of space travel--this is just a luxury we cannot afford now. There is no pressing problem that would cause this need to travel to the Moon or Mars to occur.
We have so many problems in the United States right now and I really don't see why this is necessary. Since this just recycles Space Shuttle technology, I don't see that this Ares I rocket represents any innovation that would justify the expense.
Though I know all the Aerospace Engineers are going to hate me for killing off their jobs program, there are other scientific needs--such as the need to develop clean energy sources and stop global Climate Change in its tracks--that warrant priority over any dough we spend at NASA.
Example of International Space Station
Currently, for example, the ISS is slated to be decommissioned in a few short years. I ask you, what sort of great innovation has resulted from the ISS? I am hard-pressed to think of any great advances in knowledge that were not already known from by the time the cruddy but long-surviving MIR burned up in the atmosphere.
Again, though I adore seeing these rockets take off and follow every STS-n mission with great interest, it's just a joyride and is not justified in a country like ours that is in danger of becoming a has-been global power.
NASA should halt the Ares-I and, even more painful because it would have been the biggest rocket to date, the Ares V. They are boondoggles that do not solve a pressing problem.