The location of birth matters because it's tied to the requirements for the office of President. Interestingly, doesn't McCain fail that one as well by being born in Panama? Note: Specifically not in military base i Panama, because a US military base is considered US soil.
The real question is what defines "natural born"? Is it born on US soil? Born to a US citizen? Born to two US citizens? Both Obama and McCain fail at least one of those. Obama being born to one US citizen and a foreigner in Hawaii and McCain being born on foreign soil (Panama City, I believe it was?) to two US citizens.
That's actually a good point. Glenn Beck doesn't call himself a comedian despite some people getting confused and calling him one, Jon Stewart doesn't call himself a serious journalist despite people occasionally bashing him for not being such on occasion, and despite moments of seriousness (see his response to the South Park censorship prior to the "fuck yourself" song, or the big ending speech at the Rally to Restore Sanity).
Stewart is way left of center, but he's not in the "crazy" part of left of center. Beck is in the "crazy" part of the right. I've known more Republicans ashamed that Beck is associated with them than I have Democrats ashamed that Stewart is associated with them.
I still find it hilarious that Beck got offended over something being compared to Nazi Germany when, as Stewart was so quick to point out in his usual cheerful mockery, Beck himself does so all the time.
My life could run smoothly without them for several days, but not without some advance notice, as I use a "powered by VISA" debit card for most of my daily transactions.
I haven't actually seen the new instances yet, are they really that small and trash-free? I was hoping for at least wrath size, though I dearly miss "real" dungeons like BRD.
Supposedly the mark is that in the second tier of Cata leveling zones you can take one, maybe two non-elites without too much trouble, but adding even one add makes things dicey, and adding a second is supposed to virtually guarantee your death. I'm sure class balance is off by enouh that that's true for some classes but other can just wade in and be fine. I know my Imp can solo stuff in Vash'ir.
Yes, you were complaining about simplifying and homogenizing classes. The only ways I can see them homogenized are ways that prevent the "thou shalt bring X class to every raid or else" issue, which is kinda important since they're emphasizing 10 man raids. They simplified raid composition substantially, but for at least some classes they made the process of reaching potential output much more involved. If we aren't going to talk about what's involved to maximize your output as far as complexity to play your class, what metric do we use? The complexity to generate enough output to kill single non-elites in the world? Because I could do that with one button in vanilla. Hell, I would grind even level mobs while under rez sickness in vanilla.
I'm amused by your "there are only three classes" BS though, or do you genuinely think that a Mage plays like a Hunter plays like a Warlock plays like Elemental plays like Shadow because they are all DPS and are all intended to have similar enough output that you don't bring a bare minimum of the others then stack whoever is "best" ATM?
Yeah, I figure something like transitioning from "Maintain Immolate and Curse. Cast Chaos Bolt and Conflag on cooldown. Cast Incinerate otherwise." to "Maintain Immolate, Bane, Curse, and Corruption. Cast Conflag and Chaos Bolt on cooldown. Cast Shadowbolt to maintain 30s ISB debuff, preferably cutting it close but being early a bit doesn't hurt much. Cast Soul Fire so that it lands exactly every 15 seconds, if early it doesn't reapply ISF if late you lose output. If you receive an Empowered Imp proc, either cast Soul Fire immediately, or save it for the previous item if the proc will still be active when it's time to refresh ISF. Cast Shadowburn every CD if the target is below 20% health. Cast Fel Fire when moving. Cast Incinerate if you made it this far without casting something else." constituted an increase in the complexity of playing the class. Many would actually like some small simplifications to it, like somehow making Corruption not attractive to Destruction and making Shadow and Flame also apply the debuff on Incinerate as well as Shadow Bolt.
There are extremes on both sides, and while that particular industry's union isn't as bad as some of the UAW craziness, they're not generally reasonable, either. Things like "output should effect your wages in some way", "you should actually do an amount of work that someone intently working for 75% of the work day could reasonably accomplish" and "seniority is not absolute job security" are basically anathema to them.
Now, one of my current employer's vendors is going through what you call the "popular" option -- they've been bought out by a large "investment" company that's doing what it does to all properties it buys -- it's making a huge number of changes that are unsustainable but look really good on the balance sheet short term with an eye to sell off as much of the company stock as they can at a large profit and wash their hands of it before those buying said stock realize that that last quarter looked so good because they sacked every employee they could without raising eyebrows, sold most of their inventory without restocking it, and dumped all pretense of customer service (because that's a cost that doesn't improve sales this quarter).
I do have to wonder however, is closing down the business in response to voting to become a "union shop" a violation of said federal law? It's certainly not discriminating against any particular employees, nor is it refusing to negotiate -- it's ceasing to be an entity entirely. Who do you even bring suit against?
I've known employers who have outright stated on more than one occasion "If you ever vote to unionize, I'm closing the shop and selling all assets."
So unionize, which means you lose your job (because the business is shutting down) and go wherever the local is willing to send you (with your relative lack of seniority), or don't and have actually pretty good job security. Threat of closing the doors if the shop unionizes aside, he really does try to do right by his employees, he just has an abject hatred of unions having seen some of the absurdities they've resulted in at other similar facilities (seniority = job security regardless of capability being one that particularly gets under his skin).
Really, it would be a lot like Second Life but with more terrain modification for a normal user and somewhat less scripting / arbitrary upload of data.
Almost like what Atriarch claims to be working towards but with less RPG elements.
I would argue that new content the first time or two through isn't really grindy, especially if it's novel and there are enough equally valid options to offer a real choice in what to do. I actually think that's the route Blizz is trying to go with raiding, or at least provide the illusion of by having shorter raids in more diverse environments as opposed to something with a dozen-ish bosses that must be done in some nearly linear order.
Mario Kart doesn't feel like your "grinding races", but it probably would if all the tracks were in Bowser's Castle.
The laws in question have never been tested to my knowledge, and seem like they should probably be unconstitutional. Look up "faithless elector" laws for some examples.
One would argue that driving on the opposite side of the road to other traffic causes harm, or at least excessive risk of causing harm, and accordingly one side had to be chosen, if only to keep everyone on the same page. That side being selected and encouraged accordingly makes driving on the other side cause harm, or an excessive risk of harm, which in and of itself should be considered immoral.
Much like how to everyone short of MADD, "driving while impaired by an intoxicating substance" should be seen in the same "immoral by causing other excessive risk" logic, but "Received a result higher than 0.8 on a breath testing machine" without consideration for the condition of the machine, it's accuracy, or what it's even testing *for* probably shouldn't be.
There is one distinct difference -- the 7-11 no longer has the candy bar, and is thus unable to sell it.
So it depends on what part you perceive as the reason for shoplifting being wrong -- is it wrong because you received the candy bar without paying for it against Hershey's (not the 7-11s, mind you) wishes, or is it wrong because you deprived 7-11 of a candy bar (their property) against their will?
instant runoff is a great voting system in that it produces something resembling the condorcet winner, removes the "two party bias", and can actually be explained to "common folks" without being too confusing.
So, voting anything other than (R) or (D) is throwing away your vote, regardless of the actions of others? This is what I am referring to -- realistically, our electoral system favors a two party setup, but the assumption that voting anything that isn't (R) or (D) is throwing away your vote prevents people from doing so in any numbers.
As much as I dislike the group themselves, I'm just waiting for the Tea Party to get the cohones to run a candidate under their own banner rather than as a Republican -- or do the "I'll vote straight party ticket without looking at who's running" voters make up that large a portion of the vote? The teabaggers have had some, if nothing else popular candidates, it's just a matter of one with some balls running without the (R) tag by his name to hopefully remind people that it isn't strictly an (R) or (D) choice.
The difference is that Farmville is basically the grindy parts of an MMO without any of the other parts?
I only play one web game myself, and even I acknowledge it can get grindy, but it really seems to hit the sweet spot for me: Billy vs SNAKEMAN (http://www.animecubed.com/billy/?76006).
I'm not sure how making it so that you aren't absolutely required to bring class X to your raid or else you are now at a severe handicap is making the game too easy? They mostly evened out the tanking and healing tools available, and are trying to get most DPS specs performing similarly, specifically so you don't have "I'm sorry, but druids aren't allowed to tank anymore because they don't have $TANKING_TOOL_X, and $TANKING_TOOL_Y that is unique to druids isn't important this tier".
They're bringing back the idea that you can't simply grab everything and AE down in instances. Even freaking solo quest mobs are dangerous.
They also certainly didn't simplify any of *my* specs. One picked up a second nuke. Another is up to 18 DPS buttons and 15 things to watch (this is not an exaggeration either -- though it's a mix of buffs, debuffs, and cooldowns). The third spec went from 5 buttons and a very predictable rotation to 4 cast time nukes (one used on CD, one used every 30s for a debuff, one used every 15-castingtime-traveltime seconds for a buff [any later and you lose DPS, any earlier and you hit the ICD on the buff]], and one used as filler), three instant nukes (one used on CD for it's high damage and buff, one on CD below 20%, one during movement), three DoTs, and a random proc, in addition to three different consistent procs (which are the reasons for using their respective nukes mentioned above). Also, a "big DPS cooldown".
They made my DPS *dramatically* more complicated, I dunno about yours. It should be obvious what class I am and which spec is which, though.
Supposedly PvP balance will be much better at 85, since base mana will shoot up dramatically compared to the amount of int we gain, which should put Arcane in check if no one else. It'll certainly nerf casters across the board. Spell costs will roughly triple, mana will roughly double, HP will supposedly triple.
Then you are one of the users who only benefit them in increasing the social value of the game to it's playerbase. I know I did pretty much what he was talking about with DDO, though I only bought "permanent" things, like access to races/classes.
I was just thinking about that. Imagine MMO minecraft with sufficiently large servers, a nicer chat system, and some kind of tie-in to an existing social network.
Oh, someone certainly is, but they'll never get elected because the "voting for a third party candidate is throwing away your vote" meme is so firmly entrenched, and neither R nor D will ever run anyone who doesn't have that position.
Besides, to be more specific, color blindness is caused by a recessive gene on the X that isn't matched on the Y. So it's carried by women, but a woman has to inherit it from both parents to be colorblind, a man needs only inherit it from his mother, and a woman who is hybrid for it actually has better color perception that "normal", as the gene in question causes one type of cone to favor an abnormal color range. If a woman is hybrid for the gene, she gets both the normal and abnormal versions of the cone, causing her to see "extra" colors.
By comparing it to the "big boys" in the market? Yeah, they may be crap, but they're the gold standard crap.
Would you prefer my "I like it better than any other antivirus I haven't paid for, and really wish that the MS security center warning would list 'Download and install MSE' as one of the options in response to 'You lack an antivirus or it is out of date' error"? No forcing it, no bundling it, just make it a clearly available option, maybe with an (MS Recommended) beside it or something. It's a really good option for an antivirus, and it's free, but they do absolutely nothing to push it, even in the slightest.
Something similar happened where I am, except it was coal truck drivers and the capital, and the thing they got the government to back down from was enforcing the existing load limit laws.
As opposed to blowing up, say important parts of our highway system, thus preventing trucks from taking the optimum route? After all that's essentially what the tubes would be in this scenario.
Right, so it's legal to take your tools and pick the lock to get into your house, but selling that service to someone else should be illegal? Or are you saying it would be OK if he had people ship him phones, charge to jailbreak/unlock them and ship them back?
Essentially, is the crime that he bought the phones, unlocked and sold them, or that he was selling the capability to unlock phones? How is there any meaningful difference between the two?
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The location of birth matters because it's tied to the requirements for the office of President. Interestingly, doesn't McCain fail that one as well by being born in Panama? Note: Specifically not in military base i Panama, because a US military base is considered US soil.
The real question is what defines "natural born"? Is it born on US soil? Born to a US citizen? Born to two US citizens? Both Obama and McCain fail at least one of those. Obama being born to one US citizen and a foreigner in Hawaii and McCain being born on foreign soil (Panama City, I believe it was?) to two US citizens.
That's actually a good point. Glenn Beck doesn't call himself a comedian despite some people getting confused and calling him one, Jon Stewart doesn't call himself a serious journalist despite people occasionally bashing him for not being such on occasion, and despite moments of seriousness (see his response to the South Park censorship prior to the "fuck yourself" song, or the big ending speech at the Rally to Restore Sanity).
Stewart is way left of center, but he's not in the "crazy" part of left of center. Beck is in the "crazy" part of the right. I've known more Republicans ashamed that Beck is associated with them than I have Democrats ashamed that Stewart is associated with them.
I still find it hilarious that Beck got offended over something being compared to Nazi Germany when, as Stewart was so quick to point out in his usual cheerful mockery, Beck himself does so all the time.
My life could run smoothly without them for several days, but not without some advance notice, as I use a "powered by VISA" debit card for most of my daily transactions.
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PS: This PS added to avoid /. filtering. Silly thing felt I was using too many capital letters. =/
I haven't actually seen the new instances yet, are they really that small and trash-free? I was hoping for at least wrath size, though I dearly miss "real" dungeons like BRD.
Supposedly the mark is that in the second tier of Cata leveling zones you can take one, maybe two non-elites without too much trouble, but adding even one add makes things dicey, and adding a second is supposed to virtually guarantee your death. I'm sure class balance is off by enouh that that's true for some classes but other can just wade in and be fine. I know my Imp can solo stuff in Vash'ir.
Yes, you were complaining about simplifying and homogenizing classes. The only ways I can see them homogenized are ways that prevent the "thou shalt bring X class to every raid or else" issue, which is kinda important since they're emphasizing 10 man raids. They simplified raid composition substantially, but for at least some classes they made the process of reaching potential output much more involved. If we aren't going to talk about what's involved to maximize your output as far as complexity to play your class, what metric do we use? The complexity to generate enough output to kill single non-elites in the world? Because I could do that with one button in vanilla. Hell, I would grind even level mobs while under rez sickness in vanilla.
I'm amused by your "there are only three classes" BS though, or do you genuinely think that a Mage plays like a Hunter plays like a Warlock plays like Elemental plays like Shadow because they are all DPS and are all intended to have similar enough output that you don't bring a bare minimum of the others then stack whoever is "best" ATM?
Yeah, I figure something like transitioning from "Maintain Immolate and Curse. Cast Chaos Bolt and Conflag on cooldown. Cast Incinerate otherwise." to "Maintain Immolate, Bane, Curse, and Corruption. Cast Conflag and Chaos Bolt on cooldown. Cast Shadowbolt to maintain 30s ISB debuff, preferably cutting it close but being early a bit doesn't hurt much. Cast Soul Fire so that it lands exactly every 15 seconds, if early it doesn't reapply ISF if late you lose output. If you receive an Empowered Imp proc, either cast Soul Fire immediately, or save it for the previous item if the proc will still be active when it's time to refresh ISF. Cast Shadowburn every CD if the target is below 20% health. Cast Fel Fire when moving. Cast Incinerate if you made it this far without casting something else." constituted an increase in the complexity of playing the class. Many would actually like some small simplifications to it, like somehow making Corruption not attractive to Destruction and making Shadow and Flame also apply the debuff on Incinerate as well as Shadow Bolt.
There are extremes on both sides, and while that particular industry's union isn't as bad as some of the UAW craziness, they're not generally reasonable, either. Things like "output should effect your wages in some way", "you should actually do an amount of work that someone intently working for 75% of the work day could reasonably accomplish" and "seniority is not absolute job security" are basically anathema to them.
Now, one of my current employer's vendors is going through what you call the "popular" option -- they've been bought out by a large "investment" company that's doing what it does to all properties it buys -- it's making a huge number of changes that are unsustainable but look really good on the balance sheet short term with an eye to sell off as much of the company stock as they can at a large profit and wash their hands of it before those buying said stock realize that that last quarter looked so good because they sacked every employee they could without raising eyebrows, sold most of their inventory without restocking it, and dumped all pretense of customer service (because that's a cost that doesn't improve sales this quarter).
I do have to wonder however, is closing down the business in response to voting to become a "union shop" a violation of said federal law? It's certainly not discriminating against any particular employees, nor is it refusing to negotiate -- it's ceasing to be an entity entirely. Who do you even bring suit against?
I've known employers who have outright stated on more than one occasion "If you ever vote to unionize, I'm closing the shop and selling all assets."
So unionize, which means you lose your job (because the business is shutting down) and go wherever the local is willing to send you (with your relative lack of seniority), or don't and have actually pretty good job security. Threat of closing the doors if the shop unionizes aside, he really does try to do right by his employees, he just has an abject hatred of unions having seen some of the absurdities they've resulted in at other similar facilities (seniority = job security regardless of capability being one that particularly gets under his skin).
...with less flying penises, though.
Really, it would be a lot like Second Life but with more terrain modification for a normal user and somewhat less scripting / arbitrary upload of data.
Almost like what Atriarch claims to be working towards but with less RPG elements.
I would argue that new content the first time or two through isn't really grindy, especially if it's novel and there are enough equally valid options to offer a real choice in what to do. I actually think that's the route Blizz is trying to go with raiding, or at least provide the illusion of by having shorter raids in more diverse environments as opposed to something with a dozen-ish bosses that must be done in some nearly linear order.
Mario Kart doesn't feel like your "grinding races", but it probably would if all the tracks were in Bowser's Castle.
The laws in question have never been tested to my knowledge, and seem like they should probably be unconstitutional. Look up "faithless elector" laws for some examples.
One would argue that driving on the opposite side of the road to other traffic causes harm, or at least excessive risk of causing harm, and accordingly one side had to be chosen, if only to keep everyone on the same page. That side being selected and encouraged accordingly makes driving on the other side cause harm, or an excessive risk of harm, which in and of itself should be considered immoral.
Much like how to everyone short of MADD, "driving while impaired by an intoxicating substance" should be seen in the same "immoral by causing other excessive risk" logic, but "Received a result higher than 0.8 on a breath testing machine" without consideration for the condition of the machine, it's accuracy, or what it's even testing *for* probably shouldn't be.
There is one distinct difference -- the 7-11 no longer has the candy bar, and is thus unable to sell it.
So it depends on what part you perceive as the reason for shoplifting being wrong -- is it wrong because you received the candy bar without paying for it against Hershey's (not the 7-11s, mind you) wishes, or is it wrong because you deprived 7-11 of a candy bar (their property) against their will?
instant runoff is a great voting system in that it produces something resembling the condorcet winner, removes the "two party bias", and can actually be explained to "common folks" without being too confusing.
So, voting anything other than (R) or (D) is throwing away your vote, regardless of the actions of others? This is what I am referring to -- realistically, our electoral system favors a two party setup, but the assumption that voting anything that isn't (R) or (D) is throwing away your vote prevents people from doing so in any numbers.
As much as I dislike the group themselves, I'm just waiting for the Tea Party to get the cohones to run a candidate under their own banner rather than as a Republican -- or do the "I'll vote straight party ticket without looking at who's running" voters make up that large a portion of the vote? The teabaggers have had some, if nothing else popular candidates, it's just a matter of one with some balls running without the (R) tag by his name to hopefully remind people that it isn't strictly an (R) or (D) choice.
In many states, the electoral college is "required" to vote with the populace.
The difference is that Farmville is basically the grindy parts of an MMO without any of the other parts?
I only play one web game myself, and even I acknowledge it can get grindy, but it really seems to hit the sweet spot for me: Billy vs SNAKEMAN (http://www.animecubed.com/billy/?76006).
I'm not sure how making it so that you aren't absolutely required to bring class X to your raid or else you are now at a severe handicap is making the game too easy? They mostly evened out the tanking and healing tools available, and are trying to get most DPS specs performing similarly, specifically so you don't have "I'm sorry, but druids aren't allowed to tank anymore because they don't have $TANKING_TOOL_X, and $TANKING_TOOL_Y that is unique to druids isn't important this tier".
They're bringing back the idea that you can't simply grab everything and AE down in instances.
Even freaking solo quest mobs are dangerous.
They also certainly didn't simplify any of *my* specs. One picked up a second nuke. Another is up to 18 DPS buttons and 15 things to watch (this is not an exaggeration either -- though it's a mix of buffs, debuffs, and cooldowns). The third spec went from 5 buttons and a very predictable rotation to 4 cast time nukes (one used on CD, one used every 30s for a debuff, one used every 15-castingtime-traveltime seconds for a buff [any later and you lose DPS, any earlier and you hit the ICD on the buff]], and one used as filler), three instant nukes (one used on CD for it's high damage and buff, one on CD below 20%, one during movement), three DoTs, and a random proc, in addition to three different consistent procs (which are the reasons for using their respective nukes mentioned above). Also, a "big DPS cooldown".
They made my DPS *dramatically* more complicated, I dunno about yours. It should be obvious what class I am and which spec is which, though.
Supposedly PvP balance will be much better at 85, since base mana will shoot up dramatically compared to the amount of int we gain, which should put Arcane in check if no one else. It'll certainly nerf casters across the board. Spell costs will roughly triple, mana will roughly double, HP will supposedly triple.
Then you are one of the users who only benefit them in increasing the social value of the game to it's playerbase. I know I did pretty much what he was talking about with DDO, though I only bought "permanent" things, like access to races/classes.
I was just thinking about that. Imagine MMO minecraft with sufficiently large servers, a nicer chat system, and some kind of tie-in to an existing social network.
Oh, someone certainly is, but they'll never get elected because the "voting for a third party candidate is throwing away your vote" meme is so firmly entrenched, and neither R nor D will ever run anyone who doesn't have that position.
Besides, to be more specific, color blindness is caused by a recessive gene on the X that isn't matched on the Y. So it's carried by women, but a woman has to inherit it from both parents to be colorblind, a man needs only inherit it from his mother, and a woman who is hybrid for it actually has better color perception that "normal", as the gene in question causes one type of cone to favor an abnormal color range. If a woman is hybrid for the gene, she gets both the normal and abnormal versions of the cone, causing her to see "extra" colors.
By comparing it to the "big boys" in the market? Yeah, they may be crap, but they're the gold standard crap.
Would you prefer my "I like it better than any other antivirus I haven't paid for, and really wish that the MS security center warning would list 'Download and install MSE' as one of the options in response to 'You lack an antivirus or it is out of date' error"? No forcing it, no bundling it, just make it a clearly available option, maybe with an (MS Recommended) beside it or something. It's a really good option for an antivirus, and it's free, but they do absolutely nothing to push it, even in the slightest.
Something similar happened where I am, except it was coal truck drivers and the capital, and the thing they got the government to back down from was enforcing the existing load limit laws.
As opposed to blowing up, say important parts of our highway system, thus preventing trucks from taking the optimum route? After all that's essentially what the tubes would be in this scenario.
Right, so it's legal to take your tools and pick the lock to get into your house, but selling that service to someone else should be illegal? Or are you saying it would be OK if he had people ship him phones, charge to jailbreak/unlock them and ship them back?
Essentially, is the crime that he bought the phones, unlocked and sold them, or that he was selling the capability to unlock phones? How is there any meaningful difference between the two?