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  1. nope, I had not tried that. on GTK+ TTY Port · · Score: 1
    hmm, have you tried gthumb? you can do all this without mucking about with scripts. select files you want to rotate (from the nice thumbnail view). click the "rotate" button. click "apply to all" in the rotate dialog that pops up. click ok. not too hard ;). gthumb homepage

    Nope I had not, so I just did. I tried the version in Debian stable but did not see the rotate button, nor did I see it in any dialog or the homepage. You would think it would be a trivial call, but it's just not there. It could be that the designers don't want to make the thing too big or too dependent on other libraries. I prefer gqview because you can drop the thumbnail views if you want. This makes it very fast.

    Rotation, of course, was just one example of batch work. I expect most of the useful and common manipulations will make it to a right click menu in gqview and other viewer programs.

  2. Who said this shit is true? on Big Company on Campus · · Score: 1
    Wow, I guess daily contact with RMS is enough to drive people to some truly extreme measures...

    What makes you think M$ has made any real inroads at MIT? It's no more true than the silly namecalling you just stooped to.

  3. Let your voice be heard. on Big Company on Campus · · Score: 1
    a few years a go while i attened the university of southern california, i was surprised to find out that the UI design class in java i signed up for was now a introduction to MFC programming class.

    Too late for you, I suppose.

    My advice to anyone who finds themselves learning a product like that, when you thought you would be learning priciples, is to drop the class pronto. Unless you are looking to pad your GPA, don't waste your time and money on junk. The MFC, besides being non-portable and worthless, is trivial and anyone can pick it up in a few weeks. A course teaching that would be mostly filler. Tcl/Tk might fill a course and be worthwhile, but you know, it's not really university material so much as more fundamental non-product specific concepts is. Classes without students die, and this is the best way of all to voice your oppion as well as spare your faculty the indignity of teaching a bogus class.

    When faced with a Dinky Dell workstation that won't see your SUN, fix it with Knoppix or Suse live CD.

  4. Perspective and help. on GTK+ TTY Port · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I do lots of photo work on my machines and free software kicks ass. The problems you have is the use of the wrong tool for the job. The GTK open file dialog is made for simple file retrieval. What you are doing is batch work. Getting around that problem is easy. You describe your beef this way:

    It has no method to quickly navigate directories. Depending on what I'm editing (print-quality photos, web graphics, the family album, etc) I'd like to quickly switch between directories. Now, what happens: I load Gimp, open the file dialog, navigate to my images directory (slow, even with command-completion), then load the image. After editing, I want to save the resulting image to another folder, so I then go back to the file dialoge, and do the same damn thing again.

    First, use multiple instances of your programs and real file browsers to drag and drop. This is the easiest step of all. Run multiple coppies of GIMP, each from a shell in the directory you want to work. This way, the dialog box will be defaulted to where you want to be. Next, use the drag and drop capabilities of GMC, Nautulis or KDE's file browser. If you try to use bookmarks, you will quickly be overwhelmed by too many of them. Depending on what window manager you are using, one or more of these should work. SSH X11 forwarding currenly works to move clipboard contents accross different computers on a network, I'll bet it can or will soon be able to drag and drop files the same way. How's that for spanning directories fast? Use multiple file viewers, of course, for place keeping as well as multiple versions spawns of GIMP.

    Next, try more appropriate programs for viewing and batch manipulation. Eye of Gnome and Gqview are excellent programs for viewing and moving multiple files. For batch manipulation, use Image Magic's convert utility. It's a front end to lower level utilities that resample, rotate, convert file types and more. "man convert" is informative and contains examples of usefull stuff. Use igal to make quicky web pages. Between that and a simple shell script to feed multiple directories, your days of waiting for dialogs are over. You won't get around the time your computer takes to manipulate the images, but you will save loads of clicky clicky GIMP time.

    Right rotates are a typical example. I use gqview to select and move all picutes that need to be rotated right and left to seperate directories. The CTRL key selections also work in gqview's thumbnail screen. Selecting them is as easy as looking hoding the ctrl key and a mouse button. Moving them is as eay as right clicking the mouse, selecting "move" from the pulldown menu and creating the new directory withing the directory you are in. You did remember to start gqview from a shell in the directory with pictures to manipulate? That way the right directory will always be the default. Next I run the following script to rotate all those pictures:

    count=1
    while [ -n "$*" ]
    do
    convert -rotate 90 $1 $1
    shift
    count=`expr $count + 1`
    done

    I named it "rr" issuing ~/home/me/bin/rr dir_1 dir_2 dir_3 does the directories. Other common convert commands can be substituted for each and every batch job you may have.

    A similar script can be used to call igal for many directories and thus generate thumbnails, an index and an html page for eveery photo in every directory listed.

    Happy editing and don't try the above in windoze!

  5. You are smoking crack. This article M$ friendly. on Big Company on Campus · · Score: 1
    Someone put this crap on my lug mailing list. This is what I had to say about it, read and enjoy:

    The M$NBC article claims, "Today, four years into the five-year partnership, the protests are over and Microsoft technology is firmly entrenched at MIT." Irony? Looks like an outright lie to me and an implicit endorsement I doubt any University, especially MIT, would make or will be happy about. It misrepresents the original 1999 initiative, the extent of penetration and M$ influence.

    MIT has it's own private computer system, Athena What else would you expect from the people who developed X, kerbos and many other awesome packages while M$ was putzing around with Windoze 3.1? Athena finished in 1991, where did M$ want to go at that time? MIT is more likely to take credit for being an early haven for RMS.

    Here is an informative PDF about Athena and kerbos usage at MIT With 96% of the students using Athena, I'd say that M$ hardly has a toe in the door. Indeed, it's hard to imagine serious scientific computing with Microsoft, though there are some interesting and expensive toys available on that platform, Athena seems to have them all and their betters. Here is an old list of software available to Athena users

    "The university?s educational computer network is being overhauled to use Microsoft?s .Net architecture." Is a particularly rich lie considering the Company's ambition of 1999, expressed in this NYT article, to be set the tone for MIT and 36 other companies and thereby pervert everyone's standards and lock up all publishing in M$ DRM. The above article also claimed that M$ had become the "de facto standard" at Universities. It seems strange that M$ feels the need to restate the case four years later. Slashdot covered that move and the student comments are cutting.

    Some things remain the same, however. The few M$ boxes seem to be the same headache at MIT as they are everywhere:

    1. 750 boxes infected with sobig and blaster, presumably student owned, remedy is rebuild.
    2. Problems with mail directories:
    3. Problems with different versions of M$ office (another old page)

    I can hardly believe that I read half of that nauseating piece of BS. Microsoft has tried to make policy at Universities and they have bought a few whores at some of them. This article is typical Microsoft, "we've already won" when the battle is far from over, "smart people use us" when the truth is far from it and "look how generous we are to be giving away Millions of dollars worth of binaries" as if an M$ CD was worth any more than an AOL CD. NBC should be ashamed to publish such rubbish, someone is asleep at the wheel.

    Punching holes in this article for the last 30 minutes has been fun. Microsoft polute a LUG mailing list? No way. Come here, pig, I'm going to eat you alive. Bang, pow, bite, squeel, squeel, smash crash thud. /* - Big Grin full of exposed teeth - */ Only someone completely immersed in M$ BS and completely ignorant of scientific computing and campus life in general would think M$NBC was being critical of M$.

    I now return you to news that matters and reality, which have nothing to do with M$ press releases.

  6. You only think that's a joke. on GTK+ TTY Port · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I won't have to bring up X to edit photos in the Gimp! Even better : use a TTS with that and you've got gimp for the blind :

    Considering the fact that the interface is all text, TTS would be nice for blind people. On X start up, depending on what XDM is used, you would get something like, "My box, login, name, password, Using every normal program, email client (Balsa), web browser (Galleon) would all be much easier, especially with tool tips enabled. Compare that to Microsoft's Accesability options! Rock on GNOME!

  7. well, on GTK+ TTY Port · · Score: 1
    you say:

    Here I was thinking that it was utterly impossible to make the GTK file dialogue worse than it already was.

    I have to ask what you think is wrong with it. It's got a nice little tree, tab completion, multiple M$ style shift key first to last list and CTRL key for individual inclusion, tab completion and three obvious, text labled buttons for rational tasks, rename delete and directory creation. It's fast and does what it should, what more can you ask for? I kicks M$ ass, and works on devices small and large.

    My curse on you is that you be forced to WinCE on a keyboardless device until you beg for a CLI and know the true value of what you now despise. Eat your own dog-food, astroturfer!

  8. No comfort in "trade secrets" on DeCSS Loses Free Speech Shield · · Score: 1
    What exactly makes a "trade secret"? Bullshit protectionism for large companies and nothing else. The US federal and state governments have sprung to the defense of the DVD consortioum's little encryption method. Do you think they would care if you or I were ripped of by the same company? I don't. An idividual who breaks his word to his employer and spews their secrets is liable for the damage, but you and I have no such obligations. If a big dumb company can't keep it's secrets but bets it's profitability on it, they deserve to be burnt. Free speech is a right because it's impossible and unnatural for a government to inhibit it. To even try is oppresive, morally wrong and stupid. In the end, just about any detail to make things work could be labled a trade secret and no one could tell anyone anything.

    I hope this makes it up to the supreme court becasue it's just pain bogus. If I figure out how to watch DVD's by my own research, I have every right to tell my neighbors about it.

  9. what, are you nuts? on UK to Put Monitors in Every Car? · · Score: 1
    ...I am here to take your daughter for dance. Sure Son, here, Take my car.

    Make the bum walk or you will get a ticket in the mail.

  10. You are worried about traffic tickets? on UK to Put Monitors in Every Car? · · Score: 1
    If this were implemented in the US, God forbid, I'd have to start attending LUG meetings by bicycle. A system that knows you are in a bus lane knows where you go and for how long. It would imediatly be used to track "suspicious" people, anyone who the government considers any form of threat. If you have any organizational ability at all, you will be tracked. Such tracking could be used to harrass you severly. Imagine yearly tax audits, difficulty getting loans, admission to University, communications equipment and passports, detailed searches at the airport or buss station and anything else Big Brother has his big fat thumb in. Imagine also that you have no idea why you have been singled out because the database and it's workings are secret to "protect your privacy". You will only wish that you had not driven anywhere because you could not get a driver's license in the first place.

    Police Cameras that have no effect on violent crime or terrorism, extensive "traffic monitoring" cameras and now this. Air Strip One is almost secrued.

  11. crack whore. on AOL Sued For Over-Zealous Blocking · · Score: 1
    It's sort of like the business owner that opens a high-scale women's clothing store next to a crackhouse in a bad area of town, and then wonders why no one wants to come in and browse.

    If that's so, then AOL is like a crack whore, acting incoherent, making no sense and mindlessly harming innocent people to gratify themselves.

    Don't confuse that with me approving in any way of their incompetance... they are two comlpetely seperate issues.

    What makes you think they don't want to run off independent hosters so that they can rule the market themselves? Sounds like using your muscle in one market to lever yourself into another market. They are not competing on quality of service, they are simply throwing their weight around. That's predatory behavior of a kind they have been warned not to commit.

    It's you who needs to seperate your issues. If CI Host is not really any worse than any other ISP for generating spam, then AOL is simply deviding up the network for their own good. Then it's not a case of blocking a known spammer, it's a case of blocking a competitor. This does not even take into accont that the network is a public place and that if AOL would attach itself to it and proffit, they must abide by common ground rules.

    ISPs need to get at the root of the problem rather than punish innocent people. I consider all large ISPs big spammers because they largly cater to Windoze boxes that get owned 7 ways till sunday and spam all day long, regardless of how slow their connection. ISPs that tollerate that kind of shit, or even promote it with Windoze only client software, are bad citizens of the net. AOL, M$N, and most large ISPs are all guilty of this kind of irresponsible behavior. It's time for a change that's not making everyone's connection to the web equivalent to a Windoze95 dial up account.

  12. price and pervasiveness changes nothing morally. on AOL Sued For Over-Zealous Blocking · · Score: 1
    It does not matter if the damage done is small or if the damage done is small simply because the practice is expensive. Spamming your real mailbox with junk flyers is just as bad as spamming your electronic mailbox and for the same reason: it takes you time to sort through crap you did not ask for. As is the case in electronic spam, you bear the cost too. "Bulk rate" is way cheaper than any pakcage you or I send, yet it lands in individual mailboxes in much the same way. Look at the crap sometime bulk mailers pay an order of magnitude less than you or I to delever crap you and I don't want. AOL also seems to be a big originator of spam to their own members, though that might just as well be comming from M$ agents. Any way you look at it, the CD's and other "legitimate" spam inconvenience the reciever the same way and constitute the same offense. Yes, it is difficult for me to find my bills in the sea of crap I get via snail mail, and my mail is a chore.

    AOL's spam hypocracy really is anti-competitive behavior. Blocking mail from all hosting vendors is rude. When I got a cheap dial up account, mail to my own mom got blocked. It made me very angry as I'd done nothing wrong and my ISP had just as rigourous an anti-spam policy as anyone. When they threatened to blacklist my Cable provider, Cox, unless Cox blocked outbound port 25 except through their own SMTP server, I saw it as raw predatory practice. There's got to be a better way to stop spam from broken M$ boxes than reducing everyone's service to the limits of M$ Windoze on a dial up account. I hope CI host can show that their record is just as good or better than any ISP's and clean AOL's clock.

  13. uncle! on Light Bulb Replacements · · Score: 1
    I saw it on TV years ago but can't find it on the web. The show or my memory could be wrong. The TV show took a tour of Edison's house and in the last room, it was claimed, were original bulbs which were demonstrated. The image and implications were hard to dismiss. Yet not being able to find it again, I have to doubt myself. Oh well, I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again.

  14. spam is a crime and deserves punishment. on NZ Spammer Shutdown Makes Big Difference · · Score: 1
    it's obviously wrong to murder someone over spam.

    Society would be justified if it made spamming a felony. Those who spam abuse the public for private gain, the very definition of a crime. It is right for society to loath and treat such people with distrust and contempt. They have abused society and society should not trust them. Reasonable punishment includes fines and temporary removal from society, aka incarceration, loss of vote and firearm rights and public record of your less than trustworthy nature. The size of the fine and length of jail time should be proportional to the volume and offensiveness of spam. People who willfully send vile and abusive pornographic material to minors around the world deserve to lose all of their ill gotten wealth and lots of time to contemplate thier crime.

    Hanging is a little too much but it's something to consider..

    Your rights end on conviction.

  15. That might be the only way to win. on Light Bulb Replacements · · Score: 1
    Death is an extreem solution to the problem, but it is a sure one. As long as the current dynamics of mass production and marketing last, you will be ripped off by people who sell things that are defective, light light bulb makers. Edison's original light bulbs still work after 100 years of normal operation. You can see them if you visit his house. There really is no excuse for the bulbs in your house to die the way they do, especially the low wattage things in refridgerators and night lights. They should last forever already and the only demand for them should be through accidental breakage.

    If a company makes lighting out of LEDs, expecially a patent abusing scum company like Light Kinetics, failure will be a design feature. The control circuit will die, or some other required part will go away so that you will have to buy another one.

  16. how's this for malice? on How Objective Is Microsoft's Search? · · Score: 1
    Zero useful information about Linux is almost as bad as sending to people to "alternatives to Linux", greedy grabber cert, and support sites first. Notice that a search for Microsoft or Windows does not have these problems but sends you directly to Microft's home page and the windows home page. If that's not good enough for you, please see this earlier post of mine for a quick analysis of the text included in another search which makes it look like The Register calls Linux and the GPL a cancer.

    On second thought, your own post is great evidence of malice. Calling Amazon shit, they fixed your MS8 insult already, and burrying gnu under 14 other sites is really rotten. Yes, there really were 14 other sites not www.gnu.org on top of that, the first in German. The average reader would never get to the GNU project through Microsft, despite having looked correctly. This is not a result that would come up through any reasonable ranking scheme or even randomly.

  17. Don't ignore the flaws and look closer. on How Objective Is Microsoft's Search? · · Score: 2, Insightful
    fter you get past the ads, the results are roughly similar to google's results, with linux.org and redhat.com being in the same #1 and #3 spots, and linuxjournal surpassing linux.com as the #2 spot.

    Your examination is both superficial and incomplete. The first seven or so links on the Microsoft site are adverts and sites that want your money, ignoring them for purposes of comparison is kind of like ignoring the first seven hours of your day. Secondly, the choice of sites and the words used are highly derogotory and liable to give the user a bad impresion. Notice that Microsoft treat's itself better than Red Hat when you search on Microsoft. The general page is put before cheasy adverts and the support page. The case for Linux is reversed, throwing the user at the problems after first, but only after the MSN Linux page. Microsoft treats Windows well too and, of course, does not mention Debian, the Free Software Foundation or anything smacking of Freedom. For a detailed analysis of the wording of Microsoft's summaries listed see this earlier post and please put down the crack pipe - Microsoft's search engine is no where near a match for Google and never will be.

    I never believed they would ever quit resorting to name calling, did you? When it backfired on them, they have shifted to these indirect tactics, using proxies and now they have morphed their search engine into a very impressive double speak generator.

  18. Great Report. on Windows Is 'Insecure By Design,' Says Washington Post · · Score: 1
    Chances are that the author is a noob. Most people don't have enough time to vault all the barriers to computing freedom that Microsoft has put in place from device drivers to your local computer vendor. Red Hat may be the only free OS he has any experience with and that puts him way out front of most reporters, even technical ones. Nice work, Rob, keep up the good work and look into Debian's apt-get upgrade as a THE EASIEST WAY TO STAY ON TOP OF "PATCHES" EVER.

    If anything, he put too much blame on the user. Sorry, if a normal user gets yet another screen saver from a friend and it just happens to be some kind of M$blaster with a spoofed from address, Microsoft holds full responsibility. What use is a mail client that can't be used to swap trivial software? Why the hell didn't M$ just make a normal screen saver that can pick pictures from a directory instead of a binary nasty? Rob got the root user / normal user distinction right but he did not put it together quite right.

  19. Microsoft always sucks, lies and sucks some more. on How Objective Is Microsoft's Search? · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Everybody knows that the 1.0 release of every Microsoft product sucks. But for the markets they want to take over, they are often able to squash the competition by v. 3.0 or 4.0.

    True, but version 5 and 6 still suck. It has something to do with their bizare goals. They are not in business to make a better browser, GUI, search engine or anything like that. They are in business to make money and they pervert their program's functionality to achieve that any way they can. So, M$'s GUI is sold like a billboard to the highest biders, their OS forces depencence on M$ servers, M$'s browser pushes whatever M$ feels like, Windoze updater breaks unix compatibility and their search engine delivers a message. Microsoft makes things do what it wants them to do, not what their custormers want.

    A search for Linux cancer is instructive. Someone just reading the story summaries would conclude that The Register and O'Riely think Linux and the GPL are bad. Additionally, the casual reader would conclude that Linux vendors are going out of business and that Paladium is "clever". These quotes are so targeted and numerous that it must be intentional. I'll quote what it produced because, M$ is known to change things like this:

    1. The Register ... (R). Why GPL software strangles babies and leaves stains on the carpet: Ballmer: Linux is cancer. Microsoft torches RMS, ... www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/19836.html
    2. Barrapunto | GPL: M$ tambien sufre El Cancer ... Register, la mismisima Casa de los Horrores Micro$oft podria haberse contagiado del Cancer GPL hace un par de anos. ... barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=01/06/22/1146214&mod e=&threshold=
    3. ActiveWin.com - The Most Activated Windows Resource ... GPL is a cancer. Linux and open-source software are not. ... www.activewin.com/awin/comments.asp?HeadlineIndex= 12800
    4. OPINION:Curing Steve Ballmer's Open-Source 'Cancer' ... version of WordPerfect that runs on Linux -- because these products are not derived from GPL'd software. 'Cancer' Free ... www.osopinion.com/perl/story/10272.html
    5. O'Reilly Network: The Strange Case of the Disappearing Open Source Vendors [Jun. 28, 2002] Tim O'Reilly explains why open source is good for businesses even if it isn't always good for software vendors. Customer lock-in is the real enemy of business, not the GPL. ... said last year in his "Linux is a cancer" interview, GPL'd software "attaches itself in an intellectual property sense ... www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2002/06/28/vendor .html?page=2
    6. The Register ... GPL as some kind of plague, virally infecting everything it touches, is well-known. The company has outlawed it in its licence agreements, described it as a cancer, ... www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24970.html
    7. Slashdot | Analyzing Palladium ... to Microsoft's new Palladium: a GPL-killer. 'It's the ... dramatic steps to make it GPL-hostile. Very clever and admirably ... Palladium. GPL-killer. Palladium FAQ ...

    The more I look at that list, the more respect I have for the designers of that search engine. It's brilliantly able to force the Microsoft message into even the most hostile of mouths. Ha, they call me a troll and put atribute words to me I never wrote. Compare that to the results Google gives, which looks more like what the user would want to see. Microsoft is evil and this is what an evil search engine looks like. Oh well, thats one search engine I never used before and will never use again. I also don't read or watch MSNBC news, yes, they suck too.

  20. Re:that's not good enough. on Say Goodbye To Your CD-Rs In Two Years? · · Score: 1
    MAM-E Gold Ultra CD-Rs are guaranteed by the manufacturer to last for at least 200 years.

    Thanks, that's the kind for information I was looking for.

  21. that's not good enough. on Say Goodbye To Your CD-Rs In Two Years? · · Score: 1
    Take multiple backups and atleast have one backup on high quality CD-Rss not the 25c a piece ones.

    Which of the thirty brands that failed do you recomend? I've got 20 year old casset tapes that still work because I spent a little extra money on them. The problem is that the labeling then was much more informative than it is now. The maker published graphs to match their made up words. They talked about the specifics of their technolgy and what made it better and they made real garuntees of quality. CD lables suck and no one seems to know if any is better than another.

    Keep upgrading your Harddisk from time to time and backup data from old HD to new one.

    This is inadequate now. With even modest cameras with tiny movies able to fill up 64M of compact flash in a weekend, your digital archive is sure to grow faster than you think it will. It certianly much bigger than CDR can hold. I filled up two CD's worth of baby pictures in my baby's first year, and we had a crappy camera for half of that. Right now, I've got about 5 gigs of photo archives. That's managable and it's easy enough for me to keep multiple live coppies going. It won't be adequate for long, however. It's been growing exponetially as my camera equipment impoves and as my friends start getting reasonable cameras. I can see that I won't be able to keep up with things.

    People crippled with Windoze junk must already find it impossible. What would I do without find , tar and symlinks? I'd lose dates, file structures, and any semplence of order. If I had to rely on Windoze crummy networking and tools, it would be very difficult to look at things and impossible to keep multiple live coppies.

    That my CD archives are going to fail me is greatly distrubing. I've got more than pictures, but I've only been making CDs for two or three years. I was told and THOUGHT that the data would last longer than this. I had dreams that my digital coppies would outlast the sorry organic dyes of my shoebox photo collection. Hmph.

  22. Hey, be fair. on FCC's Triennial Review Released · · Score: 1
    You forgot the very next quote from the man:

    On the FCC's broadband portion of the order, Quinn said the document "was far less bold."

    Good God, regulation so bad it can make ATT blush? This really is horrible.

  23. not a stupid idea. on FCC's Triennial Review Released · · Score: 1
    It's an incredibly stupid idea thinking we can foster competition using decades old, obsolete infrastructure already owned by some of the most powerful lobbying orgs on the hill.

    Demanding access to and proper use of wires the public paid for by protected monopoly is not stupid. Those lines were built at your expense and paid for many times over the price of free and fair compatition. The land used by the lines is public as well and regulations STILL make it difficult for competitiors to lay anything there. The only stupid thing would be to accept this and play dead.

    The net result of all this is that many people don't have access to any kind of broadband and those that do are being forced into DHCP and other stupid crap that emulates the dial up modem world. You can't and will not be able to serve with your own equipment and the internet will be made to look like your local cable TV if things keep going this way. The same government that has given us five protected music publishers, three or four protected TV broadcasters and one or two large news service might like small numbers of publishers that can be controled. Such artificial restrictions are a direct contradiction of the first amendment and everything this country stands for.

    The more attractive wireless becomes the sooner we can begin breaking free from that monster and the more innovations we will enjoy.

    What makes yo think the moster won't be able to use their network to blow your wireless competitors out of the water? They could put up DSL "hot spots" free to their own DSL subsribers and charge everyone else or use any of a hundred different scams like that. That way they can keep your service poor and ... UNABLE TO COMPETE WITH THEIR CHARGE PER MINUTE LONG DISTANCE SERVICE RAPE. Their motives are so transparent.

  24. Yep, there's no contradiciton there. on Gnumeric Now Supports All Excel Worksheet Functions · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Now that Gnumeric has paid the piper, and spent five years understanding what it means to be a spreadsheet we've got more leeway. Which is why we've been able to move so far past XL in terms of quantity and quality of analytics. Hopefully, that tend will continue..

    Nice work demolishing that troll, keep on going! Yeah!

    It is possible to emulate, so that the user of M$ junk is not lost in the interface or data export, yet innovate by providing more and better functions. The world of free software is vast and includes routines for all sorts of math works. There are free libraies for arbitrary precision and forrier analysis for example. Why not have a nice little face on them in a free spreadsheet? Microsoft's limitations are not a straight jacket for the free world.

  25. cool, my eyes are opening some more. on Gnumeric Now Supports All Excel Worksheet Functions · · Score: 1
    Gnumeric-1.2 should scale nicely to very large data sets, and will even calculate the right answers as opposed to XL.

    That's really nice and greatly exceeds my expectations for a spreadsheet. I would not, for instance, expect a graphical representation for something that derives the mean and standard deviation of thousands of data points. Back when I was doing data analysis, I simply wrote a program from scratch to manipulate, or simplify by averaging many points to one, my data like that and dumped the results into a sheet for inspection and simple graphing. Then again, perhaps my expectations have been set by crappy closed source software.

    A brush with a trolly post got me thinkng about my expectations for a sheet. Why not have more fuctionality in Gnumeric than Excel? There are all sorts of cool things that have been done in free software that can be brought into gnumeric. I can imagine arbitrary precision, arveraging "wizards" and modules that manipulate data files before displaying the results. The possibilities are exciting, and I'm almost ashamed to have been happy with good ASCII parsing, multiple formats, excellent autofill and all the other things 1.0 does. The more I think of it, the more I want to contribute, but my situation is not stable right now.

    Thanks again for the great work.