Making costs is the whole idea. If it's expensive for the company, they will quit. If it gets expensive for the post office the post office might decide the junk mail business is not so great. Breakeven goes bust, ha ha! Outside the great IT world, few people spend good money after bad.
Killing the whole business would save more trees than your goofey recycle bin ever will.
The moron made the Post Office a junk mailer's whore should be shot. Mail used to be nice to get. Now I'm not sure it will get to the other end or be lost in a pile of credit apps. The US Post Office has gone from the envy of the the world with 3 times a day service, to advert delivery system. Barf!
As more sites go this way, non tecnical issues and non technical disscusions will move away from slashdot. Posts will move back to topic and the quality of moderators will impove. Cool.
if you have a real problem, you can't demand support from anyone.
Have you ever had a "real problem"? At my last job, about 1999, a whole string of win 95 machines blew up. Who's problem was it? It was our problem. What was the fix? Buy Win 98. Some support that was. I wish it was as easy as apt, downloading a patch, or even ordering a $4 CD. Oh yeah, about 1 man year's worth of work was lost between them all.
You forgot that no one makes much money programming under Linux
Life's a bitch. We can't all be like Bill Gates and fuck the world over. I'm happy enough making an honest living, how about you? I'd go into consulting if I were you. There are plenty of angry MS customers all happy to pay for your time.
Who the hell wants to base the future of their company on free software? Only morons.
Free software is the future. Get used to it or perish.
You never know what kinds of backdoors and trojans have been left behind when you were owned. Nor will your logs really help you, as root can change them however to cover his tracks.
I'm not sure who's comment's you have been reading. Most of what I've seen has been helpful stuff about how this happened, what to do to keep it from happening and what to do it has happened. The remedy should be familiar to anyone who's used MS ware, reinstal! There however the similarities between the Linux and the MS world end. What a great opertunity to slap around MS, thanks!
Differences to be noted:
1. Problem is presented quickly and fully.
2. Problem can be prevented by changing text based config files.
3. Problem can be patched at no cost.
4. No cost was incured to begin with. Who wants to bash volunteers?
5. Reinstal will not subject you to liscence keys, bogus copy protection schemes, and outright adverts like, "Everything you do will be easier and more fun. Be sure to register today!"
The ranting seems to be all yours. Get thee hence, MicroTurd.
Perhaps you are going to rattle on about seperating biz rules from display logic, blah blah...
No, I think I'll just tell you that people who click on little boxes all day are program users not makers. Yes, this does lead to spagetti code with fuzzy borders that's imposible to maintain, but that kind of con job is another story. The man's a troll, Tablizer, he knows better than what he writes and seeks ignorant responses such as yours.
As a former technician at a University Nuclear Science Center, I can point out some things you might run into on campus in the USA.
In the steam tunnels, live steam! Ever see steam pouring out of a vent? It did because a 60 year old pipe burst. Confined space + Live steam + you = severe burns.
In basements, live step down transformers, air compressors, steam lines, hot and cold water, and other goodies. I have seen bare 1,000 volt buss bars behind a door that was rusted open. Oh yeah, I needed a flashlight to see it because the bulb was burnt out. Cool huh? Warning sign covered up by the door, no lights, only a hum to let you know you are about to die (made me turn around).
Whatever you do, please stay away from buildings that have those cute little radiation signs on them. Yes, there are places that you can get yourself hurt. Where I worked, the baddies were protected by two locked doors, and trenches built into the floor so that you could walk around. It was also one of the first targets the nuts thought of! The radiation protection people do their best to keep you out and warn you, but some figured that you get what you deserve if you break in.
As for people eating in places like this, well Ewwwwww!
test, test? Cool I'm broadcasting on the Internet (CB). Is there anyone out there? Hey, what's all this short order cook talk? You got a boogey up your but? What?!
I think the point he made was that CB radio shows us all why wome restrictions are needed on broadcasting. Well worded leet speak. Offer an alternative, and point out why the alternative is restricted like it is. Who wants, or needs, all that speed trap and road condition noise broadcast the world over? CB does a good job for that, and provides an outlet for wanna be radio operators that would act less than responsibly.
Their terms of service alow no serving of anykind. No ftp, games or mail, not even DNS to replace the one they provide that never works. I'm not sure they check, but they can terminate your service if they catch you.
I spend $40/month to have a hard IP address with good bandwith. This is how I'd publish anything if AtHome would allow it.
If anything I do ever gets to the point that people want a printed manual, it will than be worth while for a publisher to make a normal run of it. Until then a web page, man pages and word of mouth would just have to do. There's not much I want to learn so much that I'd spend $100 on a manual.
You can never go back to "the good old days". Trolls were sparse?
Well, you can put them in a box instead. Hopefully, this site will suck all of the Katz inspired intelectuals, poetry, politics and such out of Slashdot. Fork!
Things like : Be at 5 public access peering points, have a presence in XX number of states, document XXXXMb of traffic between our networks for XXhours of uptime. In other words, make us understand how it is to our mutual advantage to peer. (after all, peering relationships shoule be
among peers, not big network to little network)
You are pretty much right, the almighty dollar rules here. But, that is as it should be. We don't want the Internet to become run on the same rules as a welfare state. I believe such rules would result in the least stable service for a relativly high amount of money.
The internet was designed so that all machines and networks could connect as peers. Services and information should be provided on request, so that all users can benifit.
What you propose would turn the net into something more like the old push medias: Fragemented nets who's interconnects are controlled by giants interested only in pushing adverts onto your desktop. This is why you refer to users as "customers" and talk derisevely about smaller ISPs.
The joke, of course, is on you. If greedheads like you get your way you will screw the pootch. If such monopoly nets are established and they hump people hard enough, they will be nationalized again. People will be able to argue that a natural monopoly exists and regulate it for the public good, and minimum public cost like the electric utilities. Next, the US supreme court can look at free speech issues like anonymous publishing and open it all up.
The quality of information is not a linear function of network resources. UUNet with all of it's spam, is a prime example.
My mod points gave me a really hard choice here. Mark you as a troll or answer your BS.
This is a cool bunch of stuff, and should blow MS out of the water. Think about trying to get all of that for the average PC, and how much it would end up costing, and how it would break in a year. Yes, the average home user wants to something to plug into the stereo, the TV, and acts like a video phone. Jobs has got it right.
I'm tempted to get one of these myself. If it lives up to the hype, I will finally be able to eliminate Windows and free up all that disk space. It promises to do all the things I've kept windows around for, but better and all that disk space would be nice as an export directory. Though this is not a substitute for Free software, I'm tempted.
Actually, you can just look at his pages to find gems like this:
Actually, most GUI application programmers almost never see the code structure that makes up their
screens. They simply click on a screen item, an event selection box comes up (Events like: on_click,
on_exit, on_keyboard, etc.), and then a "code snippet" box comes up to edit the event code. Whether
that event code is in a method or subroutine does not matter that much to the
programmer. If you changed the generated code implementation from OOP to procedural and/or
tables, the programmer may never even know the difference.
Nope, I understood what he said. Igonorace sucks, but fear of this system is not ignorance.
A ground launch of one of these thing would be worse than Orion because it would be a sustained released reaction, sort of like Chernobyl. That's dirty! Bombs dissasemble before they can convert too much, so they don't dump as many fission products. This thing would burn it's way into orbit. That takes about two minutes. You could make quite a mess like that.
hey, does that mean the rest of us (the vast majority of the world) *should* worry about the CIA ?;-)
yup, worry worry worry.
So should US, but the friendly services of other countries bother me much more. British MI, did plenty of dirty work for the US in the US durring WWII. After jailing their own dissent, they turned their attention on US isolationists. Nudge nudge, wink wink, said FDR. Having someone to blame can be worse than having someone to do things for you.
Ohhh, creepy thought. The song of the day in MiniLove, "you only hurt the ones you love."
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Killing the whole business would save more trees than your goofey recycle bin ever will.
The moron made the Post Office a junk mailer's whore should be shot. Mail used to be nice to get. Now I'm not sure it will get to the other end or be lost in a pile of credit apps. The US Post Office has gone from the envy of the the world with 3 times a day service, to advert delivery system. Barf!
Pulled from the excriment processor.
As more sites go this way, non tecnical issues and non technical disscusions will move away from slashdot. Posts will move back to topic and the quality of moderators will impove. Cool.
if you have a real problem, you can't demand support from anyone.
Have you ever had a "real problem"? At my last job, about 1999, a whole string of win 95 machines blew up. Who's problem was it? It was our problem. What was the fix? Buy Win 98. Some support that was. I wish it was as easy as apt, downloading a patch, or even ordering a $4 CD. Oh yeah, about 1 man year's worth of work was lost between them all.
You forgot that no one makes much money programming under Linux
Life's a bitch. We can't all be like Bill Gates and fuck the world over. I'm happy enough making an honest living, how about you? I'd go into consulting if I were you. There are plenty of angry MS customers all happy to pay for your time.
Who the hell wants to base the future of their company on free software? Only morons.
Free software is the future. Get used to it or perish.
You never know what kinds of backdoors and trojans have been left behind when you were owned. Nor will your logs really help you, as root can change them however to cover his tracks.
Differences to be noted:
1. Problem is presented quickly and fully.
2. Problem can be prevented by changing text based config files.
3. Problem can be patched at no cost.
4. No cost was incured to begin with. Who wants to bash volunteers?
5. Reinstal will not subject you to liscence keys, bogus copy protection schemes, and outright adverts like, "Everything you do will be easier and more fun. Be sure to register today!"
The ranting seems to be all yours. Get thee hence, MicroTurd.
No, I think I'll just tell you that people who click on little boxes all day are program users not makers. Yes, this does lead to spagetti code with fuzzy borders that's imposible to maintain, but that kind of con job is another story. The man's a troll, Tablizer, he knows better than what he writes and seeks ignorant responses such as yours.
In the steam tunnels, live steam! Ever see steam pouring out of a vent? It did because a 60 year old pipe burst. Confined space + Live steam + you = severe burns.
In basements, live step down transformers, air compressors, steam lines, hot and cold water, and other goodies. I have seen bare 1,000 volt buss bars behind a door that was rusted open. Oh yeah, I needed a flashlight to see it because the bulb was burnt out. Cool huh? Warning sign covered up by the door, no lights, only a hum to let you know you are about to die (made me turn around).
Whatever you do, please stay away from buildings that have those cute little radiation signs on them. Yes, there are places that you can get yourself hurt. Where I worked, the baddies were protected by two locked doors, and trenches built into the floor so that you could walk around. It was also one of the first targets the nuts thought of! The radiation protection people do their best to keep you out and warn you, but some figured that you get what you deserve if you break in.
As for people eating in places like this, well Ewwwwww!
The resellers -- a bunch of no-nonsense businessmen and not your typical artsy-fartsy Macintosh types -- were impressed by his candor.
Jobs gave frank and honest answers to tough questions in this time of trouble for the company and its partners, they said.
Wow! I can expect all of these tough people to fuck those artsy fartsy folks three times a day and six times on sunday. Granny, get my gun!
I'm super, thanks for asking!...
Was that $27,000 Candy Bucks?
I tried to Americanize my dog. Alas, it's still a dog.
I think the point he made was that CB radio shows us all why wome restrictions are needed on broadcasting. Well worded leet speak. Offer an alternative, and point out why the alternative is restricted like it is. Who wants, or needs, all that speed trap and road condition noise broadcast the world over? CB does a good job for that, and provides an outlet for wanna be radio operators that would act less than responsibly.
Several methodologic limitations prevent our results from providing clear evidence on the hypothesized association.
Their terms of service alow no serving of anykind. No ftp, games or mail, not even DNS to replace the one they provide that never works. I'm not sure they check, but they can terminate your service if they catch you.
If anything I do ever gets to the point that people want a printed manual, it will than be worth while for a publisher to make a normal run of it. Until then a web page, man pages and word of mouth would just have to do. There's not much I want to learn so much that I'd spend $100 on a manual.
Good luck!
Well, you can put them in a box instead. Hopefully, this site will suck all of the Katz inspired intelectuals, poetry, politics and such out of Slashdot. Fork!
Your right. Even _ganga_ who's been smoking too much, knows beter. That's why he's a troll.
Hawk, however, would not have bought Bell shares before Bell was regulated. That's why I have to answer trolls from time to time.
You are pretty much right, the almighty dollar rules here. But, that is as it should be. We don't want the Internet to become run on the same rules as a welfare state. I believe such rules would result in the least stable service for a relativly high amount of money.
The internet was designed so that all machines and networks could connect as peers. Services and information should be provided on request, so that all users can benifit.
What you propose would turn the net into something more like the old push medias: Fragemented nets who's interconnects are controlled by giants interested only in pushing adverts onto your desktop. This is why you refer to users as "customers" and talk derisevely about smaller ISPs.
The joke, of course, is on you. If greedheads like you get your way you will screw the pootch. If such monopoly nets are established and they hump people hard enough, they will be nationalized again. People will be able to argue that a natural monopoly exists and regulate it for the public good, and minimum public cost like the electric utilities. Next, the US supreme court can look at free speech issues like anonymous publishing and open it all up.
The quality of information is not a linear function of network resources. UUNet with all of it's spam, is a prime example.
My mod points gave me a really hard choice here. Mark you as a troll or answer your BS.
I'm tempted to get one of these myself. If it lives up to the hype, I will finally be able to eliminate Windows and free up all that disk space. It promises to do all the things I've kept windows around for, but better and all that disk space would be nice as an export directory. Though this is not a substitute for Free software, I'm tempted.
Actually, most GUI application programmers almost never see the code structure that makes up their screens. They simply click on a screen item, an event selection box comes up (Events like: on_click, on_exit, on_keyboard, etc.), and then a "code snippet" box comes up to edit the event code. Whether that event code is in a method or subroutine does not matter that much to the programmer. If you changed the generated code implementation from OOP to procedural and/or tables, the programmer may never even know the difference.
This is not a programer!
Hey! That's not a sugar cube, it's people. Oh my God, it's people. Gastrobot runs on people! It's peeeeeepollllllllll!
Drink two cups of I-131 and call me in the morning.
A ground launch of one of these thing would be worse than Orion because it would be a sustained released reaction, sort of like Chernobyl. That's dirty! Bombs dissasemble before they can convert too much, so they don't dump as many fission products. This thing would burn it's way into orbit. That takes about two minutes. You could make quite a mess like that.
yup, worry worry worry.
So should US, but the friendly services of other countries bother me much more. British MI, did plenty of dirty work for the US in the US durring WWII. After jailing their own dissent, they turned their attention on US isolationists. Nudge nudge, wink wink, said FDR. Having someone to blame can be worse than having someone to do things for you.
Ohhh, creepy thought. The song of the day in MiniLove, "you only hurt the ones you love."