Panic, They Might Have Gotten the Source Code!
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It's like NT all over again. God only knows what bad things they can do with that.
Following the M$ example. Re:BWAHAHAHA...
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And people wonder why businesses use Microsoft when the very people who keep banging on about how secure Linux is and how it's better than Windows can't get their house in order first.
Ubuntu is special - they work with Windoze users and therefore need dumb stuff like ftp instead of sftp. This kind of thing is rare in the free software world, but the M$ campus gets hacked all the time.
Vista is horrible, but Lenovo's CEO wants the upgrade treadmill to work. Athletes will have to put up with it and the public will be lead to believe Vista is what makes the Olympics work. If it's really going to work, the servers are going to use gnu/linux, BSD or something else that really does the job. I'm surprised that they admitted anything was not M$'s latest and greatest. The 2008 Olympics are going down in history like 1936, a zenith of the fake and evil.
The strategy is ultimately futile and damaging. Vista is more of the same from M$, and vendors who say otherwise damage their reputations and the industry as a whole. Vista is not selling and vendors are all suffering because of it.
According to Lenovo chairman Yang Yuanqing, they're not going to load up their ThinkPads with Vista because the new and "like unstable" operating system "could have some problems." Microsoft's new crowning jewel will be allowed on shared terminals for athletes. On a side note, they're not going to support WiFi networks either (for security reasons).
That's typical of a M$ partner, going along with a marketing push of a system they know is crap. M$ will claim the Olympics are "Vista Powered" and that's all you will see on the idiot box and cnn.com. Their CEO still hopes the upgrade treadmill will spur sales, though the overwhelming evidence is that vista is a failure. From the CEO Amelio interview:
ChannelWeb: Do you view Vista to date as sort of a disappointment? How might you describe it?
Amelio: Anything that helps the PC industry I'm for. Vista for sure has driven upgraded hardware. There's no question about the systems we're shipping today, with more memory and bigger hard drives that would normally get people prepared for Vista. So from that standpoint I'm very happy. [but he's looking forward to service packs to fix problems]
When M$ dies and this kind of intentional waste ends. Computers will always ship bigger and better but forcing people to toss their old ones because of softare "upgrades" is evil. Free software will soon provide a smaller, but stable and steady market for good hardware that will be much better for the industry.
So this is what was keeping Linux market share from increasing? [sarcasm, FUD and bullshit follow]
Forbes thinks that multi billion dollar litigation faced by Chrysler and others made others shy about using gnu/linux. Legal extortion was a real cost for them and could be for other big companies who continue to "partner" with M$ and use their garbage on desktops.
M$ patent threats are much the same. While equally empty, the threat of court costs is real. Hopefully, the courts will take notice and save everyone time and trouble by rejecting the next round.
Sooner or later, M$ will be held accountable for these actions. Chrysler and friends should launch a class action lawsuit to cover the cost of the trial. They could use the fines to finish up their gnu/linux conversions and then put money into what they are supposed to be doing. M$ has lots of ill gotten cash from this and is a fitting target.
Novell, not Novel. It's not that hard to get right!
Insufferable, arrogance! I must be punished in a way no one will forget so that I will never make the same mistake again and others may learn from my humiliation.
One second please, while I bend and heat this coat hanger. There we go, nice and glowing hot.
pffSSSSHHHHHhhhhu! Grunt, sweat, curse. Now I have "Novell" seared into the flesh of my right testicle and feel so much better. Are there any other corporate logos you would like me to remember?
I am bright enough to make up my own nonsensical words too. When you get them wrong, remember the cure.
... it would also be confirmation to Microsoft that it's attacks are working, and thus encouragement to continue.
Failures have not been a deterrent to them either. Nothing will work for them but product, which they can't deliver. I expect M$ to squander every penny of their ill gotten money on more of the same kinds of FUD and ill advised products. The root problem is that global, non free domination was always an evil pipe dream. Sooner or later, they will pay for the damage they do.
seeing a usually pro-MS business publication being bullish on Linux really is something to celebrate.
Indeed. Now, if they can only understand how the whole thing depends on freedom.
Because now that major financial backing has to be paid through to Novell, and people want a ROI. It is now painfully obvious (due to where the money was going vs. where it goes now) that something wasn't quite right with SCO.
That something was more M$ games. Now, there's a nice pot of Sun and M$ money to fund the smoking gun hunt if IBM, Novel, Chrysler or any of the other threatened parties wants it. Sometimes, these games backfire on the $40,000,000,000 responsible party.
This is propoganda planted by the RIAA. The last gasp.
They have apposed "perfect" copy from the start because they knew non-physical distribution meant the end of their broadcast and recording empire. They will do everything in their power to keep their control of the market. That includes making digital music suck like FM radio and limiting internet distribution of music. Vista and SoundExchange give them most of what they want. People are not buying Vista but musicians will not be able to escape SoundExchange if we do not shut them down.
If music is only stored as an MP3 than yes we will be loosing some of the music. Flac would fix that.
Ogg too is better, but don't count on the MAFIAA to bring you quality music. They are still trying to figure out how to get their radio empire back. That includes intentionally distorted and low quality music shoveled to you by a select and advertising funded few and everything else bad you noticed. Vista gives them some of it, but no one is buying that. The other way is the new is a compulsory SoundExchange. If we don't stop them, SoundExchange will eventually buddy up with M$, Apple or some other sell out and lock everyone else out.
Is this the same company you have repeatedly accused of being "paid M$ shills"? And now they're right on the money?
They are hardly, "right on the money", but at least one reporter there has woken up and it's better late than never. My hope is that this represents yet another company that's defecting from the M$ monopoly. Their defection would be remarkable when there is so much M$ advertising money at stake. The stock prices reported are accurate facts, their predictions are interesting because they have their head in the big dumb company world, and their defection could be a sign of shifting alliances.
A gnu/linux boom because the SCO threat is gone would be a double win. Any boom is a win, but one that proves the SCO attack succeeded will be fuel for the next M$ anti-trust case. Delayed justice is not very good, but it's better than none.
If anything, there's too much misguided "fairness". Decisions that bring more freedom are praised. Decisions that reduce freedom are denounced. This is good, when all other things are equal.
The only double standard is that some people are willing to give bad actors more credit than they deserve. They are deluded and servile for thinking that M$ and friends will be around forever and must be placated. The bad actors are easier to see through the lens of freedom than they are though the purely functional fog of "openness". DeCSS and Tivo are examples of openness failing to bring real freedom.
Overall, the issue is unimportant because freedom and performance are linked. Eventually, all free software users understand the benefits of real freedom and shuns non free. Non free software is harder to obtain and keep up. Each owner a system has is a brittle point the user must work around. A non free video driver, for example, still performs better than a free one because of the games card makers play. That single piece of non free software might be justified by a game or some other visualization task but it makes upgrading the system painful. Add enough of these non free pieces and you are close to the Windoze experience.
So why is it that I couldn't find a free solution to ripping and re-encoding DVDs?
Because DVD ripping software is not free in the US. The DMCA makes it a crime to share that software, even to tell people where the parts are. To use that kind of software, you have to import the pieces through a non-US distribution. Because most of the English world slavishly tracks US law, the import is hard to find in English as well. It can be done but it would be much easier if the US were a free country with laws that reflected the will of the majority instead of the will of a few large media companies.
Rather think "When Microsoft writes an application for Linux, I've Won.", as said by Linus Torvalds
It's not that easy.
When M$ becomes a free software company, we will all win. If M$ becomes a free software owner, we will all lose. The whole point of free software is to avoid software owners - people who make you pay for the privilege of using and improving their software but who will restrict those uses and improvements so that you never get what you want.
Compromise a guest and you haven't compromised the machine.
What outside the "guest" is of any use to a desktop user?
I'm with the OP, I don't want Windoze or OSX so I don't want a non free VM getting between me and my OS or my OS and hardware. I don't have boot or power management problems with my OS, so the VM offers me nothing.
One of the things Stallman and company have not managed to fully explain is how exactly I'm supposed to hunt down the "dirtbags" that take my GPL'ed code and repackage it like... well, BitTorrent. Or Audacity. Never mind adding spyware or whatever. If there's enough of them I'll spend more time in court than at the keyboard writing code contributing to his dream. Why not just use a BSD-style license if what I'm trying to do to begin with is help fellow developers, and just spare myself the post-release gastric discomfort?
I'm not sure why you would mind if someone repackaged your software as long as they did nothing wrong with it.
The Free Software Foundation recommends that you give your copyright to them to make sure that no one uses your software to harm others. They have been very successful at getting companies to live up to the terms of the GPL. There is nothing much you can do about spyware additions other than force GPL release of code, so that those additions can be seen and removed.
Releasing under a BSD license gives your fellow developers freedom, but also allows them to add malware that can't be seen and removed. M$ loves your code. If that does not cause you discomfort, you have not thought through what they are doing to you or what they think of you.
I've been gone for months and the first thing I run into when I load up Slashbork is your usual crap FUD, lies and deficient prose in prosecution of "Micro$haft Windoze".
Not having you around was nice, except your dedazo and Macthorpe sock puppets were still here using identical language. If you really hate "Slashbork" why don't you do something better with your time? Hopefully you will return to the technical limitations of Windoze or Slashdot IP ban that kept you occupied since June.
"Developers who produce open source products will often have their product repackaged and redistributed by businesses with malicious intent. They repackage the software with spyware or charge for the product.... As for the protocol itself, that too is closed, but is available by obtaining an SDK license."
Going non free will also make their problems worse. The malice described is a problem that free software creates. The only reason crackers and MAFIAA can get away with charging people for spyware derivatives is because Windoze and the clients are not free to begin with. Real free software can be packaged by distributions like Debian, which assure the user the software has been checked for malware by an impartial third party. The further away from that model they get, the more problems they will have. The dirtbags will go right along with what they are doing and their life will be easier.
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It's like NT all over again. God only knows what bad things they can do with that.
And people wonder why businesses use Microsoft when the very people who keep banging on about how secure Linux is and how it's better than Windows can't get their house in order first.
Ubuntu is special - they work with Windoze users and therefore need dumb stuff like ftp instead of sftp. This kind of thing is rare in the free software world, but the M$ campus gets hacked all the time.
Vista is horrible, but Lenovo's CEO wants the upgrade treadmill to work. Athletes will have to put up with it and the public will be lead to believe Vista is what makes the Olympics work. If it's really going to work, the servers are going to use gnu/linux, BSD or something else that really does the job. I'm surprised that they admitted anything was not M$'s latest and greatest. The 2008 Olympics are going down in history like 1936, a zenith of the fake and evil.
The strategy is ultimately futile and damaging. Vista is more of the same from M$, and vendors who say otherwise damage their reputations and the industry as a whole. Vista is not selling and vendors are all suffering because of it.
No point retraining the support people on Vista when I'm sure all the officials and athletes are still using XP.
No one cares about wasting user time, this is all about marketing and boosting Vista. Lenovo says Vista is too buggy to use and the athletes will have to put up with it anyway:
That's typical of a M$ partner, going along with a marketing push of a system they know is crap. M$ will claim the Olympics are "Vista Powered" and that's all you will see on the idiot box and cnn.com. Their CEO still hopes the upgrade treadmill will spur sales, though the overwhelming evidence is that vista is a failure. From the CEO Amelio interview:
When M$ dies and this kind of intentional waste ends. Computers will always ship bigger and better but forcing people to toss their old ones because of softare "upgrades" is evil. Free software will soon provide a smaller, but stable and steady market for good hardware that will be much better for the industry.
A nasty little AC predicts yet another mod bomb:
you wonder why you get moderated Troll...
... and sure enough, my last eight posts are slapped with "Troll" mods. If it makes AC losers angry, I must be doing something right.
So this is what was keeping Linux market share from increasing? [sarcasm, FUD and bullshit follow]
Forbes thinks that multi billion dollar litigation faced by Chrysler and others made others shy about using gnu/linux. Legal extortion was a real cost for them and could be for other big companies who continue to "partner" with M$ and use their garbage on desktops.
M$ patent threats are much the same. While equally empty, the threat of court costs is real. Hopefully, the courts will take notice and save everyone time and trouble by rejecting the next round.
Sooner or later, M$ will be held accountable for these actions. Chrysler and friends should launch a class action lawsuit to cover the cost of the trial. They could use the fines to finish up their gnu/linux conversions and then put money into what they are supposed to be doing. M$ has lots of ill gotten cash from this and is a fitting target.
Novell, not Novel. It's not that hard to get right!
Insufferable, arrogance! I must be punished in a way no one will forget so that I will never make the same mistake again and others may learn from my humiliation.
One second please, while I bend and heat this coat hanger. There we go, nice and glowing hot.
pffSSSSHHHHHhhhhu! Grunt, sweat, curse. Now I have "Novell" seared into the flesh of my right testicle and feel so much better. Are there any other corporate logos you would like me to remember?
I am bright enough to make up my own nonsensical words too. When you get them wrong, remember the cure.
Failures have not been a deterrent to them either. Nothing will work for them but product, which they can't deliver. I expect M$ to squander every penny of their ill gotten money on more of the same kinds of FUD and ill advised products. The root problem is that global, non free domination was always an evil pipe dream. Sooner or later, they will pay for the damage they do.
seeing a usually pro-MS business publication being bullish on Linux really is something to celebrate.
Indeed. Now, if they can only understand how the whole thing depends on freedom.
Even when people like this get fired they do fine, just look at Carly Fiorina.
Sometimes, people are held accountable. When there's money to be made doing it, that sometimes is often.
The punishment for fraud is restitution, compensation, fines, and sometimes jail.
Because now that major financial backing has to be paid through to Novell, and people want a ROI. It is now painfully obvious (due to where the money was going vs. where it goes now) that something wasn't quite right with SCO.
That something was more M$ games. Now, there's a nice pot of Sun and M$ money to fund the smoking gun hunt if IBM, Novel, Chrysler or any of the other threatened parties wants it. Sometimes, these games backfire on the $40,000,000,000 responsible party.
Anything dropping like this just has to bounce!
It may make a splash, but most people just flush it.
This is propoganda planted by the RIAA. The last gasp.
They have apposed "perfect" copy from the start because they knew non-physical distribution meant the end of their broadcast and recording empire. They will do everything in their power to keep their control of the market. That includes making digital music suck like FM radio and limiting internet distribution of music. Vista and SoundExchange give them most of what they want. People are not buying Vista but musicians will not be able to escape SoundExchange if we do not shut them down.
If music is only stored as an MP3 than yes we will be loosing some of the music. Flac would fix that.
Ogg too is better, but don't count on the MAFIAA to bring you quality music. They are still trying to figure out how to get their radio empire back. That includes intentionally distorted and low quality music shoveled to you by a select and advertising funded few and everything else bad you noticed. Vista gives them some of it, but no one is buying that. The other way is the new is a compulsory SoundExchange. If we don't stop them, SoundExchange will eventually buddy up with M$, Apple or some other sell out and lock everyone else out.
"If Microsoft releases Windows for free we've lost."
I would not use Windows for important things, even if you paid me.
Is this the same company you have repeatedly accused of being "paid M$ shills"? And now they're right on the money?
They are hardly, "right on the money", but at least one reporter there has woken up and it's better late than never. My hope is that this represents yet another company that's defecting from the M$ monopoly. Their defection would be remarkable when there is so much M$ advertising money at stake. The stock prices reported are accurate facts, their predictions are interesting because they have their head in the big dumb company world, and their defection could be a sign of shifting alliances.
A gnu/linux boom because the SCO threat is gone would be a double win. Any boom is a win, but one that proves the SCO attack succeeded will be fuel for the next M$ anti-trust case. Delayed justice is not very good, but it's better than none.
If anything, there's too much misguided "fairness". Decisions that bring more freedom are praised. Decisions that reduce freedom are denounced. This is good, when all other things are equal.
The only double standard is that some people are willing to give bad actors more credit than they deserve. They are deluded and servile for thinking that M$ and friends will be around forever and must be placated. The bad actors are easier to see through the lens of freedom than they are though the purely functional fog of "openness". DeCSS and Tivo are examples of openness failing to bring real freedom.
Overall, the issue is unimportant because freedom and performance are linked. Eventually, all free software users understand the benefits of real freedom and shuns non free. Non free software is harder to obtain and keep up. Each owner a system has is a brittle point the user must work around. A non free video driver, for example, still performs better than a free one because of the games card makers play. That single piece of non free software might be justified by a game or some other visualization task but it makes upgrading the system painful. Add enough of these non free pieces and you are close to the Windoze experience.
So why is it that I couldn't find a free solution to ripping and re-encoding DVDs?
Because DVD ripping software is not free in the US. The DMCA makes it a crime to share that software, even to tell people where the parts are. To use that kind of software, you have to import the pieces through a non-US distribution. Because most of the English world slavishly tracks US law, the import is hard to find in English as well. It can be done but it would be much easier if the US were a free country with laws that reflected the will of the majority instead of the will of a few large media companies.
Rather think "When Microsoft writes an application for Linux, I've Won.", as said by Linus Torvalds
It's not that easy.
When M$ becomes a free software company, we will all win. If M$ becomes a free software owner, we will all lose. The whole point of free software is to avoid software owners - people who make you pay for the privilege of using and improving their software but who will restrict those uses and improvements so that you never get what you want.
Compromise a guest and you haven't compromised the machine.
What outside the "guest" is of any use to a desktop user?
I'm with the OP, I don't want Windoze or OSX so I don't want a non free VM getting between me and my OS or my OS and hardware. I don't have boot or power management problems with my OS, so the VM offers me nothing.
One of the things Stallman and company have not managed to fully explain is how exactly I'm supposed to hunt down the "dirtbags" that take my GPL'ed code and repackage it like... well, BitTorrent. Or Audacity. Never mind adding spyware or whatever. If there's enough of them I'll spend more time in court than at the keyboard writing code contributing to his dream. Why not just use a BSD-style license if what I'm trying to do to begin with is help fellow developers, and just spare myself the post-release gastric discomfort?
I'm not sure why you would mind if someone repackaged your software as long as they did nothing wrong with it.
The Free Software Foundation recommends that you give your copyright to them to make sure that no one uses your software to harm others. They have been very successful at getting companies to live up to the terms of the GPL. There is nothing much you can do about spyware additions other than force GPL release of code, so that those additions can be seen and removed.
Releasing under a BSD license gives your fellow developers freedom, but also allows them to add malware that can't be seen and removed. M$ loves your code. If that does not cause you discomfort, you have not thought through what they are doing to you or what they think of you.
I've been gone for months and the first thing I run into when I load up Slashbork is your usual crap FUD, lies and deficient prose in prosecution of "Micro$haft Windoze".
Not having you around was nice, except your dedazo and Macthorpe sock puppets were still here using identical language. If you really hate "Slashbork" why don't you do something better with your time? Hopefully you will return to the technical limitations of Windoze or Slashdot IP ban that kept you occupied since June.
"Developers who produce open source products will often have their product repackaged and redistributed by businesses with malicious intent. They repackage the software with spyware or charge for the product. ... As for the protocol itself, that too is closed, but is available by obtaining an SDK license."
The risks are great and I don't see a pay off.
As one person has already pointed out, too much of the wrong thing will isolate and destroy them
.Going non free will also make their problems worse. The malice described is a problem that free software creates. The only reason crackers and MAFIAA can get away with charging people for spyware derivatives is because Windoze and the clients are not free to begin with. Real free software can be packaged by distributions like Debian, which assure the user the software has been checked for malware by an impartial third party. The further away from that model they get, the more problems they will have. The dirtbags will go right along with what they are doing and their life will be easier.
What about IIS7? Faster than Apache, just as modular, easier to install and configure. It's even the recommended server for PHP.
You have got to be kidding me. These people have great things to say about that combination. Let's just say a 5 second uptime is not good enough.
And then I read the article. Very intersting, but the noatime trick will work till they get realtime sorted out. (unless you use mutt)