Clueless M$ user Macthorpe is confused by hosting and dreams of a M$ dominated web. By M$ hosting disaster I mean companies that tried to sell web hosting all bellied up. Your little partial quote of the top twenty web sites does not bring the results you want either (an old list). You can add up all of the M$ sites and barely beat either Yahoo or Google but not both. AOL does not use M$ . When you add them, youtube, wikipedia and other great GNU powered sites, M$ quickly vanishes. When you include the traffic from all the smaller sites, there's no contest at all.
In a year or two, Windows may be less than 50% of the Web also
M$ has a hard time getting more than a third of the web and their expansion is capped. Only terminal M$ partners run M$ web servers. Ventures into M$ hosting have met disaster and DIY types will always use some kind of free software. What do you mean when you say Windows may be less than 50% of the web?
How do you determine a windows coder vs a universal or only a linux/unix coder?
All but the Linux/unix coders have bags under their eyes.
Just because there are more developers in other environments, doesn't mean the market has dried up, just that it has matured.
The proportion of Windoze only developers just lurched 11% down to 65%. Give it a year or two and they will be less than 50%.
What's surprising is that they could find so many in 400 developers. GNU has owned the web for a while and now owns embeded systems. Student and small business users would be clueless or crazy to do anything but download a Linux distro to make things work because of the cost and performance differences. The way M$ calls developers "pawns" and the way they have put the smack down on the largest "competitors" you have to wonder why even those people would be Windoze only. In the Windoze world, you have to pay to play and M$ will steal the pie if you make anything.
USER: " Are you a service?"
WILLARD GATES / VISTA: " I'm an OS."
USER: " You're neither. You're an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks to collect a bill."
If you want to be part of the whole, you have to accept the inherit lose of privacy that is associated with it. Doesn't matter how much you dislike it, but as a whole EVERYTHING is becoming more connected, you can't truly expect your privacy to somehow remain immune from all this "openness".
With free software, I'm in charge of what my computer tell you. If you ask me for more than I'm willing to give, I might have to avoid your network. If everyone was using free software, you would have few users of your network and much of what they tell you would be a lie, which serves you right for asking what you should not.
Is it slander if it's true? - Just because something is in a license agreement doesn't mean its happening.
Truth is absolute protection against libel charges in this case.
Not knowing is also a good defense. It can be happening because M$ gives themselves both the means and permission. Reporting facts and speculating on the implications is completely legitimate. No one but M$ is every going to really know because M$ can compress and encrypt the information. Non free software is capable of malicious action by it's very nature and the first malicious act is it's promotion. You can't trust it, ever.
It's funny how it's always someone else's fault when something does not work with Windoze. Despite the frequency and virtual inclusion of "everything" in "something" you trolls never blame M$, do you?
The Neo1973 is the first smartphone to support the OpenMoko software platform, made by FIC. It is named for the first year of mobile telephone communication: the inventor of the mobile phone, Martin Cooper, made the first call in 1973.
All the trolls are blaming Apple for this one. Where is that famous Windoze backward capability when a competitor needs it? M$ should have a way of supporting legacy 32 bit software. Instead, 3rd parties have stepped up to the plate with virutlization and emulation. Shame on the M$ treadmill.
It could be impossible, ask the anti-virus makers that one. DRM is impossible snake oil but M$ is going to use it to M$ advantage with Vista.
This is nothing really new, M$ screws competitors on their program then blames the competitor. Google and anti-virus makers are feeling the pain now. Previous victims include Netscape, Word Perfect, Lotus, Notes, DRDOS and so on and so forth. In each case, technical sabotage is followed by smear. Adobe is next and then who's left? Windoze is like barren.
They are offering companies a PR service. I hope you're not saying that it's wrong to counter propaganda?
I'm not sure what they are doing is worse than any other advertisement. In fact, the Google way of advertising depends on a kind of community feedback that Google won't really sell. All they have to offer is relevance and the right place for the health care industry to try to put their weasel words. We can be sure that the only help Google will provide in the writing of those weasel words is a link to the forum shit storm that's about to erupt or a report of what's there. There, insurance companies and other "victims" of the truth will learn exactly what people think of them. If they are lucky and relevant, a Google adword might appear in the same forums. This is no more dirty than selling any other advertising space to insurance people. What's more, the insurance company can do all the research on their own if they want - anyone is free to Google the answer.
"Issue management" sounds sinister, and it would be if they let it mess with their core services. As it is, it's just an advert everyone is going to ignore while they Google the truth. If Google ever messes up their search engine, they are doomed.
How can anyone turn a story about frenzied buying and sell outs into one of bungling and failure? Steve Ballmer is smoldering somewhere, wishing Zune or Vista had met with similar success. There's no doubt, iPhone is a winner.
Even I want one, but it will be a long time. I'm not going to leave Sprint over a phone, especially one that cost so much. They can get me later if they half the price, give it an easy to access sim card and make it so I can use it with Amarok.
Don't forget the 365 MB MPEG 1 version, which is the only patent unencumbered file other than text. Sad how the formats that save 2/3 of the bandwith are owned.
Someone who knows way too much about current big dumb company Windoze licensing says:
In order to not double pay, you must buy the system with a home version of windows, then image it using the corporate license to XP Pro or Vista Business. In this way, you pay minimally for the home version, then upgrade the system to pro using the corporate license....
[M$] do it on purpose as the loophole way around the DOJ lawsuit which prohibited microsoft from banning OEM's from selling non-microsoft computers.
If this is true, businesses always double pays the M$ tax, starting with what a home user pays. The excuse for this is yet more illegal vendor manipulation.
The sooner you get away from M$, the more money you save.
How about this? When you buy a PC with either Vista Home version, call the manufacturer and say you cannot accept the terms of the EULA and want to return Vista for a refund. Use the refund to buy XP home.
That would work great, except you will have to spend $100 to get XP, which won't have drivers for your shiny new laptop. With M$, your options are, deal with a buggy Vista install or use preinstalled 7 year old software or don't buy a new computer.
The only way to know for sure if your hardware is going to work though Bill Gates' sabotage, is to find a GNU/Linux vendor or try it out yourself. Bring a live CD to a local computer store and boot it. If it works, buy the laptop. If not, keep looking.
Correct infrmation does not matter when the boss has an agenda. The CIA gave Bush a report that predicted failure in Iraq and it's consequences. The computer can do the same, but it won't do any good. The neo-cons had a plan and activated it.
Corperations that have a volume license and buy a dell witha license sticker on it are incredibly stupid. They are intentionally paying Microsoft twice on every laptop and PC they buy. The director of IT should be fired for such wasteful purchasing practices.
It's not stupid if you don't have a choice because the vendor won't sell without the M$ tax. Companies will sell discarded boxes to their employees at "cost" and the price is around $200. It includes no software, but that does not mean that $40 of that $200 cost was not originally M$ tax - a fee paid per each computer sold regardless of OS installed. Nor does it mean the Vendor did anything more than pull the computer out of inventory, complete with home use software and a license sticker on it. Each computer that big dumb companies buy have to be wiped and loaded with the corporate licensed software.
You are right about how wasteful this is, but it's not always the fault of the person making the purchases and it's never the fault of the poor person who gets to do all the actual work.
Go to the manufacturer's website, find your laptop, and download the drivers.
Which sounds good, but is wrong when the Laptop and all it's non free drivers are Vista only. The point of these abusive practices is to force people to buy Vista. XP and all the software you own are going to meet the same end as w2k, 98, 95, Win31 and so on and so forth back to DOS 1.0 - dumped and wasted.
I win either way. If people buy Vista, the curbs will fill up computers that are nicer than my newest machines. If they don't, M$ dies and me and everyone else wins.
You *can* downgrade to XP. But you can only downgrade to *XP Professional*, and you must have purchased either Vista Ultimate or Vista Business in the first place. So if you buy Vista Home or Vista Home Premium, you are stuck with them. No downgrades for you.
That's what I've heard. Another option is to simply buy a retail copy of XP -$ouch$- but good luck getting all the drivers you need for a new laptop.
Oh the Joy of the M$ Treadmill.
Why do I like to use "$" in my messages? Because I like what special characters might be doing to troll scripts./cd C:;/deltree/; $troll="shit_head"; echo $troll; echo "ha ha"
My friends tell me that what the summary reports is accurate:
it does not seem like you can convert the license since the only eligible versions for downgrading is Ultimate and Business.
This is true for home users. Your Vista license can not be used for XP, even if you simply upgraded. When you transfer your XP license to Vista, M$ won't give it back to you with their "Please let me use my OS" validation page. So, if you make the mistake of "upgrading" XP to Vista, you will have to buy XP again if you don't like Vista. Let's just say that people have not been happy with that and hope that M$ fixes it real soon.
Business users, I'm sure, get the usual double M$ tax. They pay the M$ tax when they buy the computer and they pay it again when they buy the OS and actual software, assurance plans and other nonsense.
is as it is and ever will be. One day soon, the phrase "I got it for a song" will have it's meaning back. It's not that talent is worthless, it's that it will not remain a centralized commodity three companies can manipulate and artificially limit. That it was is the real quirk.
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Clueless M$ user Macthorpe is confused by hosting and dreams of a M$ dominated web. By M$ hosting disaster I mean companies that tried to sell web hosting all bellied up. Your little partial quote of the top twenty web sites does not bring the results you want either (an old list). You can add up all of the M$ sites and barely beat either Yahoo or Google but not both. AOL does not use M$ . When you add them, youtube, wikipedia and other great GNU powered sites, M$ quickly vanishes. When you include the traffic from all the smaller sites, there's no contest at all.
In a year or two, Windows may be less than 50% of the Web also
M$ has a hard time getting more than a third of the web and their expansion is capped. Only terminal M$ partners run M$ web servers. Ventures into M$ hosting have met disaster and DIY types will always use some kind of free software. What do you mean when you say Windows may be less than 50% of the web?
How do you determine a windows coder vs a universal or only a linux/unix coder?
All but the Linux/unix coders have bags under their eyes.
Just because there are more developers in other environments, doesn't mean the market has dried up, just that it has matured.
The proportion of Windoze only developers just lurched 11% down to 65%. Give it a year or two and they will be less than 50%.
What's surprising is that they could find so many in 400 developers. GNU has owned the web for a while and now owns embeded systems. Student and small business users would be clueless or crazy to do anything but download a Linux distro to make things work because of the cost and performance differences. The way M$ calls developers "pawns" and the way they have put the smack down on the largest "competitors" you have to wonder why even those people would be Windoze only. In the Windoze world, you have to pay to play and M$ will steal the pie if you make anything.
Apocalypse - Vista Now:
USER: " Are you a service?"
WILLARD GATES / VISTA: " I'm an OS."
USER: " You're neither. You're an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks to collect a bill."
WILLARD GATES / VISTA is then put in a cage.
If you want to be part of the whole, you have to accept the inherit lose of privacy that is associated with it. Doesn't matter how much you dislike it, but as a whole EVERYTHING is becoming more connected, you can't truly expect your privacy to somehow remain immune from all this "openness".
With free software, I'm in charge of what my computer tell you. If you ask me for more than I'm willing to give, I might have to avoid your network. If everyone was using free software, you would have few users of your network and much of what they tell you would be a lie, which serves you right for asking what you should not.
Is it slander if it's true? - Just because something is in a license agreement doesn't mean its happening.
Truth is absolute protection against libel charges in this case.
Not knowing is also a good defense. It can be happening because M$ gives themselves both the means and permission. Reporting facts and speculating on the implications is completely legitimate. No one but M$ is every going to really know because M$ can compress and encrypt the information. Non free software is capable of malicious action by it's very nature and the first malicious act is it's promotion. You can't trust it, ever.
It's funny how it's always someone else's fault when something does not work with Windoze. Despite the frequency and virtual inclusion of "everything" in "something" you trolls never blame M$, do you?
Free Software to the rescue. If that sucker takes a sim card and works with my provider and does ogg, I want it. iPhone is off the list.
Boo-yah, baby. $200 cheaper than an iPhone.
I like it like that.
A lot of apps still aren't supporting 64 bit.
All the trolls are blaming Apple for this one. Where is that famous Windoze backward capability when a competitor needs it? M$ should have a way of supporting legacy 32 bit software. Instead, 3rd parties have stepped up to the plate with virutlization and emulation. Shame on the M$ treadmill.
Just to clarify, the SIM is user accessible.... but only accepts AT&T versions...
Where?
How hard could it be to port iTunes to Vista x64?
It could be impossible, ask the anti-virus makers that one. DRM is impossible snake oil but M$ is going to use it to M$ advantage with Vista.
This is nothing really new, M$ screws competitors on their program then blames the competitor. Google and anti-virus makers are feeling the pain now. Previous victims include Netscape, Word Perfect, Lotus, Notes, DRDOS and so on and so forth. In each case, technical sabotage is followed by smear. Adobe is next and then who's left? Windoze is like barren.
My Zune works fine on 64 bit Vista.
Kneht is obviously using some M$ definition of "works". The rest of us don't see it that way.
The new M$ party line is that Vista is "perfect" and anyone complaining is a malicious liar. Looks like a temper tantrum to me. M$ is dying.
Dreamchaser says and asks:
They are offering companies a PR service. I hope you're not saying that it's wrong to counter propaganda?
I'm not sure what they are doing is worse than any other advertisement. In fact, the Google way of advertising depends on a kind of community feedback that Google won't really sell. All they have to offer is relevance and the right place for the health care industry to try to put their weasel words. We can be sure that the only help Google will provide in the writing of those weasel words is a link to the forum shit storm that's about to erupt or a report of what's there. There, insurance companies and other "victims" of the truth will learn exactly what people think of them. If they are lucky and relevant, a Google adword might appear in the same forums. This is no more dirty than selling any other advertising space to insurance people. What's more, the insurance company can do all the research on their own if they want - anyone is free to Google the answer.
"Issue management" sounds sinister, and it would be if they let it mess with their core services. As it is, it's just an advert everyone is going to ignore while they Google the truth. If Google ever messes up their search engine, they are doomed.
How can anyone turn a story about frenzied buying and sell outs into one of bungling and failure? Steve Ballmer is smoldering somewhere, wishing Zune or Vista had met with similar success. There's no doubt, iPhone is a winner.
Even I want one, but it will be a long time. I'm not going to leave Sprint over a phone, especially one that cost so much. They can get me later if they half the price, give it an easy to access sim card and make it so I can use it with Amarok.
Don't forget the 365 MB MPEG 1 version, which is the only patent unencumbered file other than text. Sad how the formats that save 2/3 of the bandwith are owned.
Someone who knows way too much about current big dumb company Windoze licensing says:
How about this? When you buy a PC with either Vista Home version, call the manufacturer and say you cannot accept the terms of the EULA and want to return Vista for a refund. Use the refund to buy XP home.
That would work great, except you will have to spend $100 to get XP, which won't have drivers for your shiny new laptop. With M$, your options are, deal with a buggy Vista install or use preinstalled 7 year old software or don't buy a new computer.
The only way to know for sure if your hardware is going to work though Bill Gates' sabotage, is to find a GNU/Linux vendor or try it out yourself. Bring a live CD to a local computer store and boot it. If it works, buy the laptop. If not, keep looking.
Chance of desired outcome: 21.7%
Correct infrmation does not matter when the boss has an agenda. The CIA gave Bush a report that predicted failure in Iraq and it's consequences. The computer can do the same, but it won't do any good. The neo-cons had a plan and activated it.
An AC says:
Corperations that have a volume license and buy a dell witha license sticker on it are incredibly stupid. They are intentionally paying Microsoft twice on every laptop and PC they buy. The director of IT should be fired for such wasteful purchasing practices.
It's not stupid if you don't have a choice because the vendor won't sell without the M$ tax. Companies will sell discarded boxes to their employees at "cost" and the price is around $200. It includes no software, but that does not mean that $40 of that $200 cost was not originally M$ tax - a fee paid per each computer sold regardless of OS installed. Nor does it mean the Vendor did anything more than pull the computer out of inventory, complete with home use software and a license sticker on it. Each computer that big dumb companies buy have to be wiped and loaded with the corporate licensed software.
You are right about how wasteful this is, but it's not always the fault of the person making the purchases and it's never the fault of the poor person who gets to do all the actual work.
An Anonymous Astroturfer advises:
Go to the manufacturer's website, find your laptop, and download the drivers.
Which sounds good, but is wrong when the Laptop and all it's non free drivers are Vista only. The point of these abusive practices is to force people to buy Vista. XP and all the software you own are going to meet the same end as w2k, 98, 95, Win31 and so on and so forth back to DOS 1.0 - dumped and wasted.
I win either way. If people buy Vista, the curbs will fill up computers that are nicer than my newest machines. If they don't, M$ dies and me and everyone else wins.
Quoting oneself is not considered researcing a reliable source of information.
Quoting Joe U is even less reputable but that's not the point. Referencing yourself is labor saving. Thanks Joe!
You *can* downgrade to XP. But you can only downgrade to *XP Professional*, and you must have purchased either Vista Ultimate or Vista Business in the first place. So if you buy Vista Home or Vista Home Premium, you are stuck with them. No downgrades for you.
That's what I've heard. Another option is to simply buy a retail copy of XP -$ouch$- but good luck getting all the drivers you need for a new laptop.
Oh the Joy of the M$ Treadmill.
Why do I like to use "$" in my messages? Because I like what special characters might be doing to troll scripts. /cd C:; /deltree/; $troll="shit_head"; echo $troll; echo "ha ha"
My friends tell me that what the summary reports is accurate:
This is true for home users. Your Vista license can not be used for XP, even if you simply upgraded. When you transfer your XP license to Vista, M$ won't give it back to you with their "Please let me use my OS" validation page. So, if you make the mistake of "upgrading" XP to Vista, you will have to buy XP again if you don't like Vista. Let's just say that people have not been happy with that and hope that M$ fixes it real soon.
Business users, I'm sure, get the usual double M$ tax. They pay the M$ tax when they buy the computer and they pay it again when they buy the OS and actual software, assurance plans and other nonsense.
is as it is and ever will be. One day soon, the phrase "I got it for a song" will have it's meaning back. It's not that talent is worthless, it's that it will not remain a centralized commodity three companies can manipulate and artificially limit. That it was is the real quirk.