How much work would go into porting the average appliction, like "pico" or "apache" to the IA-64 arch? Does most of the work have to go into the new compiler?
Why does helix need to emulate Microsoft so much? This seems to be the way of many of Linux window managers and the like. They all have their version of the "Start" button... what about maybe copying the MacOS. It is nice an sleek.... very efficient...
I find it odd that many linux users bash Microsoft (myself included) but we all use a GIU close to theirs... but at least our is in userspace...
This is what I have been wating for... Apple has really dragged its feet with dual cpu machines. From what I have read, 2 G4's work VERY well together. Apartently you get near 100 boost once you add the second CPU, when using MaxBus.
Has anyone seen any good benchmarks for G4's vs Sparc, Alpha, etc... I have done a but of altivec programming, and golly, that vector unit is sweet. You just can't beat the RISC architechure.
I wonder what version of LinuxPPC will support it. How developed is SMP in the PPC world?
In closing, man these rummors better be true, hmmm.... maybe I will use my free WWDC pass after all...
I wonder why Palm/Handspring used a serial connection (or USB) to do the syncing and transfer. I think an ethernet connection would be the way to go... completely platform independent... that would rock.
I wish we would see more companies use ethenet. I mean, would it be nice to see a Rio with an ethernet port to pump in MP3's? From what I have done with embeded ethernet, it isn't hard at all...
I don't really see why a company would care if someone "hacked" apart their product. I understand their are cases where the service they sell is the money maker, but otherwise, who cares... not me.
Those little boxes are awesome. I want thinking of getting a WebSurfer so I could telnet to my machine while still on the couch... but on a 32 inch TV...
We need to see more "open sourcing" of hardware... so I don't have to dig around to figure out how to get my Furby to speak of things past. I really didn't know what to say here... my bud, PB, says they should attack intruders. He is funny in the head.
What they are doing looks like an awesome idea. It looks like it will make the development/distrobution of code a lot easier. Props to them.
I think the open source community needs to spend more time in the software design phase. Where I work, we don't code until we have TONS of diagrams/description of logic done. Overall, I think it leads to a much better product.
Documentation and DOL are extremely important... reminds me of a development tool that I have used that would compile psuedo code... haha. Funny stuff.
Speaking of doc, what do you guys feel is the best tool for managing it. I mean something akin to doc++ or Doxygen. Are there any other better solutions?
Yes! Now I can finally build a nice and precise robot for doing all my "dirty work". I will build droves of them... my evil army of the night. Or not.
But this is really cool that they took that gosh darn "jitter" off. Maybe now I will get one of those fancy in car navigation systems... or build one...
Anyone have any good info on hardware needed to put together a decent in car navigation system? maybe even some text-to-speech. Fancy facny.:-)
I was wondering if anyone would care to comment on the strong points of Mandrake... how does it compare to some of the other distros like Redhat and SUSE? Also where are they heading with each release? More server related, or desktop?
Seems like a lot more stuff to break/malfunction. What ever happend to the good old days of lining up and fire vollies at eachother.... memories.......
But seriously, what advantage does this give the JEDI? Not they will have to spend all their time reading displays. I think raido is the most advanced tool a troop should have. All the other toys are for the top brass.:-)
What would you say the is bare minimum hardware to get on the list? Some 350 K6-2's? P2?:-) Just a pipe dream of mine... I have to do something with all this money I am losing in the stock market.:-(
Be deservers not getting the specs... even though they could get the info right from LinuxPPC... they blew it when they wanted to charge Apple too much for the rights to the BeOS. Apple took Next. Long live Next.
LinuxPPC is great! I am just getting ready to order the LinuxPPC 2000 discs... but I was VERY happy with 1999. The only problem I have was getting an accelerated XServer to run, but that is fixed now...
I recomend it highly... I have my lowly powerbase 180 (with a 330 G3 in it now...) running LinuxPPC 1999, runs like a dream...
YOu can probably attribute the MacOS UI slow down to the fact that Apple is focusing on building the code for a very specific set of hardware, and prolly leaving out a lot of optimizations for non-apple included hardware.
That G4 is one sweet chip... I am holding out getting one, until someone (Apple) cranks out a dual CPU version.:-) That would be nice.
I have done some tests with the simulator, and man, that Altivec unit can fly? Ever want to do permutations lightning quick... G4's got it. I have been wanting one so I can ditch DSP development, and rock it out on a G4...:-)
It would be REALY nice to see third part motherboards comming out. I mean, IBM released the design... so where are they?:-)
About that 1 Teraflop computer they mention, where would that rank on the Top 500 list?
Go Motorola, and Go IBM! (and a few props to Apple...)
Why BSD? Why not just put together a nice Linux Beowulf cluster... especially with software from http://www.pileofpcs.org comming down the pipe?
Just out of curiosity, about how many GFlops does it take to get on the Top 500 super computer list? It has always been my goal in life... time to build the worlds fastest computer out of 486's.:-)
Hmmm... that would be interesting. I wonder what the practical limmit for the speed of a clustor of 486's is... say if you used 100Mbit enet... anyone know? It must begin to cap out somewhere...
What we _need_ for SETI is a LARGE radio dish on the "dark side" of the moon... sunk in a crater or something. That way the moon would filter out most of the Earth radio noise... and due to the lower gravity, it will probably be easier to build a bigger dish.
I really wonder why people say "why do we keep throwing money towards SETI?"... I say why not? I mean what do we do on this world that is so great. We are here to serve life itself... finding other life is part of the duty we have.:-) That is why the space program is so VERY VERY vital to the future of the human race.... we need to spread off this planet, and into the unknown. Besides, what else is there to do?:-) j/k
Ryan
Do'h
Hmm... Interesting idea...
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If there is good Linux support, then I really don't see too much of a problem with this. I wonder if they will be able to pump some new "features" into DSL modems? The only thing I don't like is my surfing the web, slowing down my RC5 keyrate.:-) I wonder if there will be Mac support? The G4 is kinda meant to handle signal processing and packet routing... that would make good use of the Altivec unit...
I guess I shouldn't have set the weird "Find the Black Dot" images as my background... it is making me dizzy... Must change background.... must make work a better place...
I hate it when people stary from the norm... and use their own stuff. It kinda has a microsoft like mentality to it.:-) Now if only I could think of the "neat" uses of this new found info.:-) Peace out.
Now this is the type of software I like to see!!! OpenGL, GLUT, and OpenAL are a step in the right direction, but we need more. I prefer the write once, compile anywhere... not like the JAVA mentality... How can you beat an API that compiles to native code on a machine? It is wicked!!! Long live the cross platfrom API's!!! Ryan
I don't know why so many people beleive so strongly in processor benchmarks. Know how many integrer operations a sec that a processor can do is nice, but it doesn't give you an overall picture. I have seen VERY few _good_ overal system benchmarking tools... maybe this will lead to more. YOu would think getting a non biased test would be fairly easy... or perhaps it should be up to the manufactors to make the benchmarks... that why they could bend the thruth as much as possible... but if everyone is bending the truth, then it will all even out.:-)
It is nice to SGI supporting linux. I guess they don't have much to do now... after selling off Cray. Besides the OpenGL wave, what does SGI do these days?
What are you talking about... DISAPOINTED?!?!?! He gets to travel into space!!!!! I say for the price you are getting quite the deal... How often does that happen? Never. We need more of this type of business to get the space program properly funded. So we can reach the glory of the Apollo days.
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How much work would go into porting the average appliction, like "pico" or "apache" to the IA-64 arch? Does most of the work have to go into the new compiler?
Just wondering...
Ryan
Why does helix need to emulate Microsoft so much? This seems to be the way of many of Linux window managers and the like. They all have their version of the "Start" button... what about maybe copying the MacOS. It is nice an sleek.... very efficient...
I find it odd that many linux users bash Microsoft (myself included) but we all use a GIU close to theirs... but at least our is in userspace...
Peace out.
-Yup
CISC fan eh? I pitty the fool.
Down on Mot? At least I don't heat my house when I fire up my G3/G4 unlike the Alphas or PII/PIII's.
I am coded asm on S/390 (big CISC...), PPC, and MIPS... man oh man... nothing beats RISC.
I guess I made a bit of a typo... I meant to say "Lame ole' CISC" not really meaning to refer to time.
Yup.
No kidding MHz don't mean anything... especially when you compare RISC to lame old CISC.
Just a thought.
Ryan
This is what I have been wating for... Apple has really dragged its feet with dual cpu machines. From what I have read, 2 G4's work VERY well together. Apartently you get near 100 boost once you add the second CPU, when using MaxBus.
Has anyone seen any good benchmarks for G4's vs Sparc, Alpha, etc... I have done a but of altivec programming, and golly, that vector unit is sweet. You just can't beat the RISC architechure.
I wonder what version of LinuxPPC will support it. How developed is SMP in the PPC world?
In closing, man these rummors better be true, hmmm.... maybe I will use my free WWDC pass after all...
Peace out.
Ryan
--"Yup."
I wonder why Palm/Handspring used a serial connection (or USB) to do the syncing and transfer. I think an ethernet connection would be the way to go... completely platform independent... that would rock.
I wish we would see more companies use ethenet. I mean, would it be nice to see a Rio with an ethernet port to pump in MP3's? From what I have done with embeded ethernet, it isn't hard at all...
Just a thought...
Ryan
-Vegtables can't run.
I don't really see why a company would care if someone "hacked" apart their product. I understand their are cases where the service they sell is the money maker, but otherwise, who cares... not me.
Those little boxes are awesome. I want thinking of getting a WebSurfer so I could telnet to my machine while still on the couch... but on a 32 inch TV...
We need to see more "open sourcing" of hardware... so I don't have to dig around to figure out how to get my Furby to speak of things past. I really didn't know what to say here... my bud, PB, says they should attack intruders. He is funny in the head.
Ryan
"Don't nargin your MEX files!"
What they are doing looks like an awesome idea. It looks like it will make the development/distrobution of code a lot easier. Props to them.
I think the open source community needs to spend more time in the software design phase. Where I work, we don't code until we have TONS of diagrams/description of logic done. Overall, I think it leads to a much better product.
Documentation and DOL are extremely important... reminds me of a development tool that I have used that would compile psuedo code... haha. Funny stuff.
Speaking of doc, what do you guys feel is the best tool for managing it. I mean something akin to doc++ or Doxygen. Are there any other better solutions?
Catcha later,
Ryan
"Don't nargin your MEX files!"
Yes! Now I can finally build a nice and precise robot for doing all my "dirty work". I will build droves of them... my evil army of the night. Or not.
:-)
But this is really cool that they took that gosh darn "jitter" off. Maybe now I will get one of those fancy in car navigation systems... or build one...
Anyone have any good info on hardware needed to put together a decent in car navigation system? maybe even some text-to-speech. Fancy facny.
--Ryan
"Don't nargin your MEX files!!!"
I was wondering if anyone would care to comment on the strong points of Mandrake... how does it compare to some of the other distros like Redhat and SUSE?
Also where are they heading with each release? More server related, or desktop?
Thanks,
Ryan
"Don't nargin your MEX files!"
Seems like a lot more stuff to break/malfunction. What ever happend to the good old days of lining up and fire vollies at eachother.... memories.......
:-)
But seriously, what advantage does this give the JEDI? Not they will have to spend all their time reading displays. I think raido is the most advanced tool a troop should have. All the other toys are for the top brass.
If only they had light sabers... hmmm...
Rion
What would you say the is bare minimum hardware to get on the list? Some 350 K6-2's? P2? :-) Just a pipe dream of mine... I have to do something with all this money I am losing in the stock market. :-(
Ryan
Be deservers not getting the specs... even though they could get the info right from LinuxPPC... they blew it when they wanted to charge Apple too much for the rights to the BeOS. Apple took Next. Long live Next.
Ryan
LinuxPPC is great! I am just getting ready to order the LinuxPPC 2000 discs... but I was VERY happy with 1999. The only problem I have was getting an accelerated XServer to run, but that is fixed now...
I recomend it highly... I have my lowly powerbase 180 (with a 330 G3 in it now...) running LinuxPPC 1999, runs like a dream...
YOu can probably attribute the MacOS UI slow down to the fact that Apple is focusing on building the code for a very specific set of hardware, and prolly leaving out a lot of optimizations for non-apple included hardware.
Ryan
That G4 is one sweet chip... I am holding out getting one, until someone (Apple) cranks out a dual CPU version. :-) That would be nice.
:-)
:-)
I have done some tests with the simulator, and man, that Altivec unit can fly? Ever want to do permutations lightning quick... G4's got it. I have been wanting one so I can ditch DSP development, and rock it out on a G4...
It would be REALY nice to see third part motherboards comming out. I mean, IBM released the design... so where are they?
About that 1 Teraflop computer they mention, where would that rank on the Top 500 list?
Go Motorola, and Go IBM! (and a few props to Apple...)
Me
Why BSD? Why not just put together a nice Linux Beowulf cluster... especially with software from http://www.pileofpcs.org comming down the pipe?
:-)
Just out of curiosity, about how many GFlops does it take to get on the Top 500 super computer list? It has always been my goal in life... time to build the worlds fastest computer out of 486's.
Hmmm... that would be interesting. I wonder what the practical limmit for the speed of a clustor of 486's is... say if you used 100Mbit enet... anyone know? It must begin to cap out somewhere...
Notorious R.P.Z.
What we _need_ for SETI is a LARGE radio dish on the "dark side" of the moon... sunk in a crater or something. That way the moon would filter out most of the Earth radio noise... and due to the lower gravity, it will probably be easier to build a bigger dish.
:-) That is why the space program is so VERY VERY vital to the future of the human race.... we need to spread off this planet, and into the unknown. Besides, what else is there to do? :-) j/k
I really wonder why people say "why do we keep throwing money towards SETI?"... I say why not? I mean what do we do on this world that is so great. We are here to serve life itself... finding other life is part of the duty we have.
Ryan
Do'h
If there is good Linux support, then I really don't see too much of a problem with this. I wonder if they will be able to pump some new "features" into DSL modems? The only thing I don't like is my surfing the web, slowing down my RC5 keyrate. :-)
I wonder if there will be Mac support? The G4 is kinda meant to handle signal processing and packet routing... that would make good use of the Altivec unit...
Ryan
"Don't nargin your MEX files!" - Matlab
I guess I shouldn't have set the weird "Find the Black Dot" images as my background... it is making me dizzy...
Must change background.... must make work a better place...
Ryan
I don't see how it is fair to punish anyone about this. I mean, it just keeps the bussinesses on their toes... so now it is bad to outsmart a company?
I hate it when people stary from the norm... and use their own stuff. It kinda has a microsoft like mentality to it. :-) Now if only I could think of the "neat" uses of this new found info. :-) Peace out.
Now this is the type of software I like to see!!! OpenGL, GLUT, and OpenAL are a step in the right direction, but we need more. I prefer the write once, compile anywhere... not like the JAVA mentality... How can you beat an API that compiles to native code on a machine? It is wicked!!! Long live the cross platfrom API's!!! Ryan
I don't know why so many people beleive so strongly in processor benchmarks. Know how many integrer operations a sec that a processor can do is nice, but it doesn't give you an overall picture. I have seen VERY few _good_ overal system benchmarking tools... maybe this will lead to more. :-)
YOu would think getting a non biased test would be fairly easy... or perhaps it should be up to the manufactors to make the benchmarks... that why they could bend the thruth as much as possible... but if everyone is bending the truth, then it will all even out.
Yup.
It is nice to SGI supporting linux. I guess they don't have much to do now... after selling off Cray. Besides the OpenGL wave, what does SGI do these days?
What are you talking about... DISAPOINTED?!?!?! He gets to travel into space!!!!! I say for the price you are getting quite the deal... How often does that happen? Never. We need more of this type of business to get the space program properly funded. So we can reach the glory of the Apollo days.