I guarantee that his firing was over falsifying expense reports for only $5,000. I'm sure that 5k is the amount that they will allow to be published but a thief and liar always does much more than what he is actually caught doing. There is probably a long history of 'lapses in judgement'.
And you obviously still can't put two and two together. The app you work on does not matter...whether that app makes $5k or $100k does not matter. Your skill set matters.
Send me your address, I'll send you some video professor tapes. I'm sure he has courses on how not to be a ignorant, thick-headed buffoon.
And you obviously don't live in the same world as do the other 7 billion plus people. Programmers get paid most times according to skill set and experience, not what they program. Some get paid more due to them sleeping with their boss or having good hair...but that's besides the point. Many times their skill set and experience dictates what they CAN program. The financial markets feel that these guys are worth $140k. That's market value.
If you feel differently, go create your own app and take all the profits....wait, that's what they did.
Your missing my point and your argument doesn't hold water. We ARE in a free market. They are receiving what the market says they should receive. Don't you live in the US like myself? You should know this.
If the company employs programmers who have the same skill set and ability yet one works on trading the other on reporting - the company chooses to pay what they want to pay...it may be a general programmer's rate depending on experience.
If they have a skill that not too many people have, then fine, pay them at the rate that a programmer who does trading programs should receive....the market rate. But don't tell me that the market rate should be more when they are receiving and willing to do the job at $140k a year like everyone else in their profession.
If the financial sector realizes that this particular skill is endangered due to low pay then the pay will increase. Until then, either work, or you go out on your own as they are doing.
Next, you're going to tell me that the President should be the highest paid person in the country, sheesh. This is principles versus reality - guess what side I'm on.
Hmmmm...getting paid more or less depending on the app they write.
For instance, if I create an app that makes $5000 a day and another programmer creates an app that makes $100,000, who should really get paid more?
What if the same amount of work was needed for both? Both written using the same language? Should one receive higher wages because his app does something the other doesn't?
They are both receiving their contracted wage, so what's the complaint? If you want to make the big bucks, change professions and become a trader. You are receiving programmer wages....you programmer!!
If people are going to lose faith in science because scientists are human...then we as a race are doomed, in my opinion.
That, my friend, was a hilarious quote. Faith, as well as trust, devotion, loyalty and the like are things normally given to deities, not humans. The man that thinks he should receive such must prove himself worthy to carry the weight that comes with it. The article basically asserts that no scientist is worthy of those things. I agree.
Thank you so much for telling us your lifestyle habits. It's especially useful to know exactly when you leave your house and to be informed of your daily activities while you're out so that we know when you'll return. I also like receiving information about your purchasing habits as well as knowing the names of your dog, fish, and children. I'm especially fond of the little red-head. Perhaps I will visit the school she goes to so we can get to know each other better. Afterall, I know exactly when you usually pick her up.
Your television in your living room is a 52" plasma?! Awesome! I'll be over shortly to take it as well as any other valuables you constantly blab about on your twitter account. You make it so much easier for me to do my job. Thank you ever so much!
Sorry, Job is actually the 4th, 5th, or 6th oldest book. Genesis, Exodus, & Leviticus were all written prior but Numbers, Deuteronomy, & Job were all completed in the same year - circa 1473 BCE.
Well-spoken. The word Satan is a title or description, not a name originally given to the angel now known as Satan. We may never know his original name. Perhaps it is because biblical names have special meaning and the angel now known as Satan does not live up to his former name. Reminds me though of people who use the word "God" as if it is a name. Most people either don't know or don't care what God's real name is.
Those complaining about migration from PHP4 do have a small gripe but the fact is that the developers gave people ample time to plan for the end of PHP4 support. PHP5 has been out since 2004 - it's 5 years later!!! Since PHP is a young language that was built for a totally different purpose than what it is used for today, things like breaking backwards compatibility are necessary for its maturation. Just look at a description of Rasmus' original implementation of PHP (Personal Home Page) and you'll see this language needed to be altered for the heavy lifting it tries to do today. The culture had to and must continue to change. Unlike Java or other robust languages, PHP was created from the ground up to be Christina Aguilera...er, I meant quick and dirty.
PHP4 which was the first version of PHP that was really ready for widespread use was released in 2000 with much of the cruft that made PHP/FI 2 swiss cheese when it comes to security. Also, it had hacked-on OO syntax and even though you could create your own objects, it was more about OO syntax than function. PHP5 changed a lot of key things, especially those having to do with objects, mysql, new extensions, and quite a few variables.
The changes between PHP4 & PHP5 weren't that big of a deal as some made them out to be though. Its not like it went from -> to.dot syntax. Things are much less painful this time around going from PHP5 to PHP6. They are mainly doing some housekeeping, unifying some parts of the most used pieces, making it play nicely with the world's many languages, and shaving off the stuff that causes the most security problems. No biggie. The security benefits, speed, built-in caching (APC), & bug fixes give people added incentive to upgrade.
Not on the desktop. Who the heck can afford to provide support? Its difficult build a multi-billion dollar ecosystem around a free product. Sun died trying. IBM does but not as a consumer desktop?
Linux will never dominate the desktop because no company will want to support the massive amount of users that Windows has. Apple does not want to support the amount of users Windows has, that's why OSX is only supported on Mac hardware. You think a linux-based OS company is in better shape to do such a thing?
I don't agree totally with the Red Hat CEO though. The only thing that matters is the desktop experience and beyond, especially services and apps that help people get things done and not simply run a computer. Anything lower than that is purely for computer professionals and we are vastly outnumbered.
RedHat makes an OS, not consumer software - its not surprising that they feel that there's no money in a desktop OS. There is not. Not many OSS programmers will be able to properly support their product for free when 10,000 users flood their inbox with bug requests and problem as do people who do so on a regular basis in closed sourced software companies. Therefore, linux in the normal OSS model will never dominate the desktop.
Is it ready for the desktop though? Yes...for yours.
In this current economic environment are you really surprised they are asking you to throttle instead of paying for bigger pipes? It is not your moral duty to ensure that people get the best internet experience. You do what you have to do to enforce your company goals and standards within the situation you've been given and ensure that they don't step across your moral standard - ie. lying, cheating, murder, etc. (If that is your particular moral standard. I once knew of a man who killed his wife yet felt morally bound to OSS for some reason. Hmmmm...) To throttle or not to throttle has little to do with your own morality.
According to experts 30 years ago, the was simply no way we could produce enough food for 5 billion people. Now we're doing it for 7. These professional pessimists have always underestimated mankind's ability to change, adapt, and solve problems. They've always underestimated our capacity to make things happen.
We're feeding 7 billion? No, try again. A large amount of people are dying each year from malnutrition. More than a billion people. The bottleneck is not in the earth, it is in man. Throughout history man has not adapted, has not changed, has not solved the important problems. We have capacity to make things happen, but not without much pain. I don't know what history books you read, but perhaps you need to look at the history of every civilization known to man to see how things will end up. Same stuff, different millennium.
Everyone thinks they're special and we individually may be, but the man next to us will ruin our good intentions.
Probably, but that wasn't his point. I bet that production WinPHP servers are probably somewhere between 0 to 3% (or less) of the PHP being served on the entire net. But he was talking about people who develop on Win machines usually run IIS or Apache/PHP locally to test their apps, then upload to a *nix machine after testing. Problem is that PHP stability on Windows is garbage and it makes it difficult to properly benchmark an app when the same PHP code produces different runs results. I personally don't fool with IIS but I still get a tremendous amount of crashes using the FastCGI/PHP & Apache on Windows for testing locally. In my opinion they still have a long way to go.
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C'mon admit it! I bet your thinking, "that's a lot of ATM machines!"
I guarantee that his firing was over falsifying expense reports for only $5,000. I'm sure that 5k is the amount that they will allow to be published but a thief and liar always does much more than what he is actually caught doing. There is probably a long history of 'lapses in judgement'.
And you obviously still can't put two and two together. The app you work on does not matter...whether that app makes $5k or $100k does not matter. Your skill set matters.
Send me your address, I'll send you some video professor tapes. I'm sure he has courses on how not to be a ignorant, thick-headed buffoon.
And you obviously don't live in the same world as do the other 7 billion plus people. Programmers get paid most times according to skill set and experience, not what they program. Some get paid more due to them sleeping with their boss or having good hair...but that's besides the point. Many times their skill set and experience dictates what they CAN program. The financial markets feel that these guys are worth $140k. That's market value.
If you feel differently, go create your own app and take all the profits....wait, that's what they did.
Oh, I almost forgot: You butt-wipe.
Your missing my point and your argument doesn't hold water. We ARE in a free market. They are receiving what the market says they should receive. Don't you live in the US like myself? You should know this.
If the company employs programmers who have the same skill set and ability yet one works on trading the other on reporting - the company chooses to pay what they want to pay...it may be a general programmer's rate depending on experience.
If they have a skill that not too many people have, then fine, pay them at the rate that a programmer who does trading programs should receive....the market rate. But don't tell me that the market rate should be more when they are receiving and willing to do the job at $140k a year like everyone else in their profession.
If the financial sector realizes that this particular skill is endangered due to low pay then the pay will increase. Until then, either work, or you go out on your own as they are doing.
Next, you're going to tell me that the President should be the highest paid person in the country, sheesh. This is principles versus reality - guess what side I'm on.
Hmmmm...getting paid more or less depending on the app they write.
For instance, if I create an app that makes $5000 a day and another programmer creates an app that makes $100,000, who should really get paid more?
What if the same amount of work was needed for both? Both written using the same language? Should one receive higher wages because his app does something the other doesn't?
They are both receiving their contracted wage, so what's the complaint? If you want to make the big bucks, change professions and become a trader. You are receiving programmer wages....you programmer!!
You do realize that developing on for the web and on the client is totally different in .NET right?
If people are going to lose faith in science because scientists are human...then we as a race are doomed, in my opinion.
That, my friend, was a hilarious quote. Faith, as well as trust, devotion, loyalty and the like are things normally given to deities, not humans. The man that thinks he should receive such must prove himself worthy to carry the weight that comes with it. The article basically asserts that no scientist is worthy of those things. I agree.
Thank you so much for telling us your lifestyle habits. It's especially useful to know exactly when you leave your house and to be informed of your daily activities while you're out so that we know when you'll return. I also like receiving information about your purchasing habits as well as knowing the names of your dog, fish, and children. I'm especially fond of the little red-head. Perhaps I will visit the school she goes to so we can get to know each other better. Afterall, I know exactly when you usually pick her up.
Your television in your living room is a 52" plasma?! Awesome! I'll be over shortly to take it as well as any other valuables you constantly blab about on your twitter account. You make it so much easier for me to do my job. Thank you ever so much!
-Your Neighborhood Nice Guy
Sorry, Job is actually the 4th, 5th, or 6th oldest book. Genesis, Exodus, & Leviticus were all written prior but Numbers, Deuteronomy, & Job were all completed in the same year - circa 1473 BCE.
Well-spoken. The word Satan is a title or description, not a name originally given to the angel now known as Satan. We may never know his original name. Perhaps it is because biblical names have special meaning and the angel now known as Satan does not live up to his former name. Reminds me though of people who use the word "God" as if it is a name. Most people either don't know or don't care what God's real name is.
Then again, I'm in Philadelphia and have no idea what whale blood looks like....but it looks like it should be whale blood.
Those complaining about migration from PHP4 do have a small gripe but the fact is that the developers gave people ample time to plan for the end of PHP4 support. PHP5 has been out since 2004 - it's 5 years later!!! Since PHP is a young language that was built for a totally different purpose than what it is used for today, things like breaking backwards compatibility are necessary for its maturation. Just look at a description of Rasmus' original implementation of PHP (Personal Home Page) and you'll see this language needed to be altered for the heavy lifting it tries to do today. The culture had to and must continue to change. Unlike Java or other robust languages, PHP was created from the ground up to be Christina Aguilera...er, I meant quick and dirty.
.dot syntax. Things are much less painful this time around going from PHP5 to PHP6. They are mainly doing some housekeeping, unifying some parts of the most used pieces, making it play nicely with the world's many languages, and shaving off the stuff that causes the most security problems. No biggie. The security benefits, speed, built-in caching (APC), & bug fixes give people added incentive to upgrade.
PHP4 which was the first version of PHP that was really ready for widespread use was released in 2000 with much of the cruft that made PHP/FI 2 swiss cheese when it comes to security. Also, it had hacked-on OO syntax and even though you could create your own objects, it was more about OO syntax than function. PHP5 changed a lot of key things, especially those having to do with objects, mysql, new extensions, and quite a few variables.
The changes between PHP4 & PHP5 weren't that big of a deal as some made them out to be though. Its not like it went from -> to
-PHP Expert
between new money and old money, higher education and classical education. Darn yankees...
Not on the desktop. Who the heck can afford to provide support? Its difficult build a multi-billion dollar ecosystem around a free product. Sun died trying. IBM does but not as a consumer desktop?
Linux will never dominate the desktop because no company will want to support the massive amount of users that Windows has. Apple does not want to support the amount of users Windows has, that's why OSX is only supported on Mac hardware. You think a linux-based OS company is in better shape to do such a thing?
I don't agree totally with the Red Hat CEO though. The only thing that matters is the desktop experience and beyond, especially services and apps that help people get things done and not simply run a computer. Anything lower than that is purely for computer professionals and we are vastly outnumbered.
RedHat makes an OS, not consumer software - its not surprising that they feel that there's no money in a desktop OS. There is not. Not many OSS programmers will be able to properly support their product for free when 10,000 users flood their inbox with bug requests and problem as do people who do so on a regular basis in closed sourced software companies. Therefore, linux in the normal OSS model will never dominate the desktop.
Is it ready for the desktop though? Yes...for yours.
In this current economic environment are you really surprised they are asking you to throttle instead of paying for bigger pipes? It is not your moral duty to ensure that people get the best internet experience. You do what you have to do to enforce your company goals and standards within the situation you've been given and ensure that they don't step across your moral standard - ie. lying, cheating, murder, etc. (If that is your particular moral standard. I once knew of a man who killed his wife yet felt morally bound to OSS for some reason. Hmmmm...) To throttle or not to throttle has little to do with your own morality.
According to experts 30 years ago, the was simply no way we could produce enough food for 5 billion people. Now we're doing it for 7. These professional pessimists have always underestimated mankind's ability to change, adapt, and solve problems. They've always underestimated our capacity to make things happen.
We're feeding 7 billion? No, try again. A large amount of people are dying each year from malnutrition. More than a billion people. The bottleneck is not in the earth, it is in man. Throughout history man has not adapted, has not changed, has not solved the important problems. We have capacity to make things happen, but not without much pain. I don't know what history books you read, but perhaps you need to look at the history of every civilization known to man to see how things will end up. Same stuff, different millennium. Everyone thinks they're special and we individually may be, but the man next to us will ruin our good intentions.
Probably, but that wasn't his point. I bet that production WinPHP servers are probably somewhere between 0 to 3% (or less) of the PHP being served on the entire net. But he was talking about people who develop on Win machines usually run IIS or Apache/PHP locally to test their apps, then upload to a *nix machine after testing. Problem is that PHP stability on Windows is garbage and it makes it difficult to properly benchmark an app when the same PHP code produces different runs results. I personally don't fool with IIS but I still get a tremendous amount of crashes using the FastCGI/PHP & Apache on Windows for testing locally. In my opinion they still have a long way to go.