Nobody has mentioned the other side, where the cable companies can charge more because things are packaged. On the backend companies can go to their addvertising accounts and say something like "pay us more for our awesumly bad commercials because you have a market base of millions. If you were just a nuche market you would only have a fraction of that and we couldn't justify carrying your signal."
I run one of the 99 other 9i RACs in the world. I hate it. OCFS is slow, difficult to mount, load, and install. Plus it consumes all the resources in the system. The Oracle guys don't know anything else so they like it. But as the system admin I seem to be constantly fixing Oracle which the Oracle guys can't. So I ask you, what good are they if they can't even fix their own stuff. I also find that Oracle is a hack. Even the DBAs say this. Why do they use java to install stuff. What's wrong with a good shell script? I know java is platform independent. But that doesn't matter if the java installer won't even run. Better yet. What if the DBAs actually know how to install or compile stuff. Why is this asking to much.
I am going to agree with you one this one. Normally I wouldn't comment on this but. Pre 9-11 I worked on the design team for both V4R5 thru V5R2 hardware, Code named condor and regatta, respectivly. I worked on the converged service processor design team. For those of you who don't know what that is. It is like the BIOS for a PC. There are many things IBM doesn't tell you about their machines. Like:
you have to use their hardware despite the fact you can use hardware from Comp USA. The VPN prevents this.
the buss sits idle a large percentage of the time, even when under heavy load. This can be upto 90% idle. This is due to their token ring-like layout of the procs and buss. If you blow a proc which happen quite often, you are SOL until they can ship one in from Austin, TX or Hitachi, japan. When I was there the 9-11 disaster literally shut-dwon the project because of the mail/shipping stoppage.
The RIO buss isn't as bullet proof as they would make you believe. "SLIC" has lots of microcode problems. (SLIC is between the csp and the OS). More then 50% of their cables are defective from the manufacturer, and they are expensive.
You can't crack the case to fix something. You have to let an IBM field engineer do it. This means more down time. And the whole box is down. Not just one little machine in the cluster.
The failure rate of the backplanes in the CEC is over 90%. There is only one place the manufactures them and they are backlogged for months.
DASDs (harddrives) are small in storage(usually 9-18GB) but very pricey and you need 79 of them to fill one 5077 storage tower(required to even boot).
manistore dump has lots of issues.
The power requirements for an H class Z series machine are two, count them two 440V 60 amp services. Plus you have to have the floor strengthened for the extra weight. This doesn't even include the space/power/weight considerations for the storage towers or I/O towers.
I could go on and on. I am not saying they are bad machines. But you better be willing to make a 30 year commitment to the tech to make it pay.
I don't think your finace people are willing to accept downtime. That means lost money. So I would suggest the clusters. The ability to fix stuff inhouse and replace or remove each node makes it very robust.
You bring up a point I have often wondered about. As an engineer I see company after company kill the section(s) that come-up with new products or build the infrastructure. Why is it that no one seems to realize you can't build one product forever? You have to have new stuff. There seems to be this idea that all that matters is tomorrow and not next year. Just because a division doesn't produce something physical doesn't mean it doesn't add to the bottom line. If that were true then no one would need bean counters.
Maybe I am preaching to the choir. But why don't they teach this stuff and why doesn't anyone consider this?
Bik2k, As a Linux user/admin, I agree with you. But there is one thing about this news story that bothers me. Why is this news worthy. Aren't all operating systems supposed to be able to support multiple users anyway. Just like they are supposed to run multiple programs? MS and apple both have made many claims in the past that their Operating systems already do that.
Am I missing something? If you are referring to multiple users using the same localhost keyboard and monitor. Ummm, isn't that a major security issue. As well as a inconvience? If you are talking about multiple users using the same cpu...shouldn't that already be bulit into the OS?? Anyone who does anything serious on the computer knows the cpu sits idle a great deal. That was the idea behind mainframes.
Finally someone with the clarity of mind to understand the problem. Thank you. To extend his point. Why should a CEO be paid in the millions for what he does. There is no justification for those high salaries especially when the company is hurting. And it is almost never the average Joe Blow actually on the phone lines/assembly lines/etc that is responsible for the poor performance. But they are the ones that have to shoulder the burden. If the company is doing bad, then the owners and management should take paycuts long before the low employees have to. If you don't agree then look at it this way. How much would your respect for your boss change if your boss took a paycut and you didn't have to. That is real leadership. I say this as the owner and CEO of my own small company. My people are always eager to put my needs first because I always put them first. Put another way, it is the Golden Rule.
I hope you are being sarcastic. Otherwise you should be thrown out of this forum for even making that remark.
As for MS being used in 99.999% bullshit. I think that you need to get out more. I also think that you bought MS's brainwashing hook, line and sinker.
As for the DVD support. I think you need to open your eyes. I am running a dvd across my network at home as I type this. It runs fine in Linux. I can't windows to play across the network without a great deal of hacking and cursing.
Ok, I have been reading this thread. There is one thing that bothers. NO one has commented on the responsibility of the CEO. OK, now I know there are some out there laughing at me. But isn't the whole idea that the one that gets the promotion or better job is because they do the job better.
Ok, go ahead and laugh. But the from the facts posted. The CEO wrote an e-mail that he really shouldn't have. Shouldn't he bear the responsibilty of his words. Sure, he can just walk over the IS and demand they delete. But is that really fixing the problem? As an admin for several companies over the years. I have learned that if anyone asks you to do anything out of the ordinary. You need a signed get out of jail free card. Otherwise you are left holding the bag. I agree with the person who said get the CEO to sign a request with the affected email attached. Because if you do this without a paper trail. The CEO could just as easily say you did it on your own. And you lose your job. Again, this brings up a previous point that companies will only do what they are made to do under the law. Otherwise, they will rape you.
I have had to send lots of email in a highly stressful/charged environment. This has required some careful thought on wording. And no matter what, you ARE going to offend someone. Whether or not you meant to. Face it. Some people just want to take offence.
So, back to the CEO. Why should his mistake be yours? I don't want to hear the simple answer because I work in IS. Admin people aren't daycare. Where is the users responsibilty? Most CEOs I have worked with are the worst users. They abuse their own policies. A system in a company works only if everyone does it. Because if you aren't going to use the system. Why have it at all? If the lowest user can't request to have the email deleted. Then the CEOs shouldn't either. I don't want to hear rank has it's privledge. That is a simplist answer.
Nobody has mentioned the other side, where the cable companies can charge more because things are packaged. On the backend companies can go to their addvertising accounts and say something like "pay us more for our awesumly bad commercials because you have a market base of millions. If you were just a nuche market you would only have a fraction of that and we couldn't justify carrying your signal."
They get you both ways.
I run one of the 99 other 9i RACs in the world. I hate it. OCFS is slow, difficult to mount, load, and install. Plus it consumes all the resources in the system. The Oracle guys don't know anything else so they like it. But as the system admin I seem to be constantly fixing Oracle which the Oracle guys can't. So I ask you, what good are they if they can't even fix their own stuff. I also find that Oracle is a hack. Even the DBAs say this. Why do they use java to install stuff. What's wrong with a good shell script? I know java is platform independent. But that doesn't matter if the java installer won't even run. Better yet. What if the DBAs actually know how to install or compile stuff. Why is this asking to much.
I am going to agree with you one this one. Normally I wouldn't comment on this but. Pre 9-11 I worked on the design team for both V4R5 thru V5R2 hardware, Code named condor and regatta, respectivly. I worked on the converged service processor design team. For those of you who don't know what that is. It is like the BIOS for a PC. There are many things IBM doesn't tell you about their machines. Like:
you have to use their hardware despite the fact you can use hardware from Comp USA. The VPN prevents this.
the buss sits idle a large percentage of the time, even when under heavy load. This can be upto 90% idle. This is due to their token ring-like layout of the procs and buss. If you blow a proc which happen quite often, you are SOL until they can ship one in from Austin, TX or Hitachi, japan. When I was there the 9-11 disaster literally shut-dwon the project because of the mail/shipping stoppage.
The RIO buss isn't as bullet proof as they would make you believe. "SLIC" has lots of microcode problems. (SLIC is between the csp and the OS). More then 50% of their cables are defective from the manufacturer, and they are expensive.
You can't crack the case to fix something. You have to let an IBM field engineer do it. This means more down time. And the whole box is down. Not just one little machine in the cluster.
The failure rate of the backplanes in the CEC is over 90%. There is only one place the manufactures them and they are backlogged for months.
DASDs (harddrives) are small in storage(usually 9-18GB) but very pricey and you need 79 of them to fill one 5077 storage tower(required to even boot).
manistore dump has lots of issues.
The power requirements for an H class Z series machine are two, count them two 440V 60 amp services. Plus you have to have the floor strengthened for the extra weight. This doesn't even include the space/power/weight considerations for the storage towers or I/O towers.
I could go on and on. I am not saying they are bad machines. But you better be willing to make a 30 year commitment to the tech to make it pay.
I don't think your finace people are willing to accept downtime. That means lost money. So I would suggest the clusters. The ability to fix stuff inhouse and replace or remove each node makes it very robust.
You bring up a point I have often wondered about. As an engineer I see company after company kill the section(s) that come-up with new products or build the infrastructure. Why is it that no one seems to realize you can't build one product forever? You have to have new stuff. There seems to be this idea that all that matters is tomorrow and not next year. Just because a division doesn't produce something physical doesn't mean it doesn't add to the bottom line. If that were true then no one would need bean counters.
Maybe I am preaching to the choir. But why don't they teach this stuff and why doesn't anyone consider this?
Bik2k,
As a Linux user/admin, I agree with you. But there is one thing about this news story that bothers me. Why is this news worthy. Aren't all operating systems supposed to be able to support multiple users anyway. Just like they are supposed to run multiple programs? MS and apple both have made many claims in the past that their Operating systems already do that.
Am I missing something? If you are referring to multiple users using the same localhost keyboard and monitor. Ummm, isn't that a major security issue. As well as a inconvience? If you are talking about multiple users using the same cpu...shouldn't that already be bulit into the OS?? Anyone who does anything serious on the computer knows the cpu sits idle a great deal. That was the idea behind mainframes.
I guess news was slow the day this was posted.
Finally someone with the clarity of mind to understand the problem. Thank you. To extend his point. Why should a CEO be paid in the millions for what he does. There is no justification for those high salaries especially when the company is hurting. And it is almost never the average Joe Blow actually on the phone lines/assembly lines/etc that is responsible for the poor performance. But they are the ones that have to shoulder the burden. If the company is doing bad, then the owners and management should take paycuts long before the low employees have to. If you don't agree then look at it this way. How much would your respect for your boss change if your boss took a paycut and you didn't have to. That is real leadership. I say this as the owner and CEO of my own small company. My people are always eager to put my needs first because I always put them first. Put another way, it is the Golden Rule.
I hope you are being sarcastic. Otherwise you should be thrown out of this forum for even making that remark.
As for MS being used in 99.999% bullshit. I think that you need to get out more. I also think that you bought MS's brainwashing hook, line and sinker.
As for the DVD support. I think you need to open your eyes. I am running a dvd across my network at home as I type this. It runs fine in Linux. I can't windows to play across the network without a great deal of hacking and cursing.
Ok, I have been reading this thread. There is one thing that bothers. NO one has commented on the responsibility of the CEO. OK, now I know there are some out there laughing at me. But isn't the whole idea that the one that gets the promotion or better job is because they do the job better.
Ok, go ahead and laugh. But the from the facts posted. The CEO wrote an e-mail that he really shouldn't have. Shouldn't he bear the responsibilty of his words. Sure, he can just walk over the IS and demand they delete. But is that really fixing the problem? As an admin for several companies over the years. I have learned that if anyone asks you to do anything out of the ordinary. You need a signed get out of jail free card. Otherwise you are left holding the bag. I agree with the person who said get the CEO to sign a request with the affected email attached. Because if you do this without a paper trail. The CEO could just as easily say you did it on your own. And you lose your job. Again, this brings up a previous point that companies will only do what they are made to do under the law. Otherwise, they will rape you.
I have had to send lots of email in a highly stressful/charged environment. This has required some careful thought on wording. And no matter what, you ARE going to offend someone. Whether or not you meant to. Face it. Some people just want to take offence.
So, back to the CEO. Why should his mistake be yours? I don't want to hear the simple answer because I work in IS. Admin people aren't daycare. Where is the users responsibilty? Most CEOs I have worked with are the worst users. They abuse their own policies. A system in a company works only if everyone does it. Because if you aren't going to use the system. Why have it at all? If the lowest user can't request to have the email deleted. Then the CEOs shouldn't either. I don't want to hear rank has it's privledge. That is a simplist answer.