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How Everyday Things Are Made

OckNock writes "The Alliance for Innovative Manufacturing at Stanford University in conjunction with Design4x has released online courses on design and manufacturing that include over 4 hours of streaming video (Flashplayer required). Some of the topics include airplanes, crayons, and waterjet cutting. If only they had this when I had studied mechanical engineering - maybe I would have stayed awake in class more."

101 comments

  1. Ah, the memories by Megane · · Score: 4, Funny

    When I was a kid, all you had to do was tune in Mr. Rogers to see crayons being made.

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    1. Re:Ah, the memories by nettdata · · Score: 1, Interesting

      My favourite was the spoon factory... who knew that spoons were made that way?

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    2. Re:Ah, the memories by infornogr · · Score: 1

      Fortune cookies. I never thought I'd understand fortune cookies until I saw that episode. The fortunes just NEVER stick!

    3. Re:Ah, the memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It might interest you to know that "pedantic" should be your middle name. Now, please allow yourself to be roundly buggered by that selfsame elephant. Gracias.

    4. Re:Ah, the memories by MikeD83 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, I remember an episode where they went to a pencil factory. The interesting part was that all the waste wood was ground down and combined with glue to form a Duraflame faux fireplace log.

    5. Re:Ah, the memories by tsa · · Score: 1

      There is no spoon factory

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    6. Re:Ah, the memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, the many uses of spooning.

  2. Interesting idea by caffeineHacker · · Score: 1

    Seems alot like the MIT online courses earlier in the week. It's interesting but 4 hours on engineering isn't terribly helpful

  3. great site by Shaklee39 · · Score: 1

    This helped me a lot, watching the lectures of the inctructs that they tape is almost better than going to a real class

  4. great stuff! by seanadams.com · · Score: 3, Interesting

    During this internet craze, I think a lot of techies have lost touch with the amazing techniques that we develop for designing and manufacturing all the physical things around us.

    If you're an out of work geek, consider looking into the "old smoke-stack" industries for places where you could apply your software skills in helping companies improve margins through better automation and more efficient processes.

    1. Re:great stuff! by PurpleFloyd · · Score: 4, Informative
      Sorry, but process engineering is a dead field right now. Many companies are cutting "improvement" departments like process engineering and IT to the bone because they don't directly produce end products; middle and upper management often look down on divisions that don't do "real work." While companies doing this are essentially shooting themselves in the foot, most of manufacturing is cutting back or eliminating entirely divisions that serve to improve productivity. Since they're not directly related to product output, they get cut first and the company doesn't suffer immediately.

      Also, what makes you think that an out-of-work sysadmin or programmer would be qualified? All the process engineers I know have spent many years working on the shop floor in their industries, and know the processes involved like the back of their hand. If they can't find work, what hope is there for someone who walks in from what is essentially a completely different industry?

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    2. Re:great stuff! by nathanh · · Score: 1
      If you're an out of work geek, consider looking into the "old smoke-stack" industries for places where you could apply your software skills in helping companies improve margins through better automation and more efficient processes.

      What you've just described is called systems engineering. Typical qualifications are 4 years tertiary level education, 2 years work experience, and an accreditation exam. Under-graduates are expected to be in the top-end of the intellectual curve; entrance scores for engineering are in the same league as medicine. With all due respect, a Visual Basic programmer isn't even remotely qualified to "improve" a manufacturing process.

    3. Re:great stuff! by seanadams.com · · Score: 1

      Also, what makes you think that an out-of-work sysadmin or programmer would be qualified?

      IMHO a lot of technologies stagnate for lack of "cross-pollination". Let me explain: would I expect a unix programmer to understand the process of glass making? No. Not any more than I'd expect the man operating the blow molding machine to understand the intricacies of select(). But I'm sure that the two of them working together, each contributing deep knowledge in their specific field, could come up with solutions that neither could ever have imagined on his own.

      I can see why you say it's dead field though, and honestly I do sympathize with the management's position - you either cut what you can or just close the doors. Once business stabilizes though, process engineering becomes important again.

    4. Re:great stuff! by digitalunity · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It depends very much on the process and the industry. I work for one of the largest silicon wafer manufacturers in the world. Our automation is so complex and mature that the only way we could lay off more workers is if we reduced capacity. That's the key. We did lay off almost half of the workers, but through efficiency increases, the capacity is where it was two years ago. The company saved a decent chunk of change because they kept the automation engineers around. I know of another similar company that just layed off quite a few people, but their automation is very poor. Overall, the company is doing very bad. Their capacity is less than a third of what it was two years ago and the company still isn't making much money.

      There's two ways to save money in manufacturing: less workers & lowered capacity, or increased efficiency and increased profits. The method used depends highly on existing conditions.

      And yes, as embedded devices become more commoditized, special education in the field becomes less important. One quick read through this boook and most good programmers would capable of automating simple tasks that more often than not require people to perform.

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    5. Re:great stuff! by Jardine · · Score: 4, Funny

      middle and upper management often look down on divisions that don't do "real work."

      I wonder if that might be considered irony.

    6. Re:great stuff! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've worked in manufacturing/production for years. There is some IT work involved, but not alot. IT is considered as overhead, which is usually the first to get it's belt tightened when times are lean. IT doesn't get much respect in this environment. Production people consider IT workers as office workers. Management and engineering catagorizes them with secretaries and receptionists.

    7. Re:great stuff! by weave · · Score: 2, Insightful
      True, but capitalism would demand that at some point one of their competitors would figure out how to squeeze more productivity out of their employees who produce, and use process engineering to do it, and gain a competitive advantage.

      I know in my own work place, and I can't stress this enough, I can look and identify a plethora of processes and issues that my team could help my site's employees become more productive at their jobs, but we don't because we're drowning in doing tech support for braindead software on buggy and security-deficient desktop software.

      For example, our marketing department has employees who spend a few days taking a list of courses we offer and typing them into a page layout program to produce a brochure every month or so. Why not hack some code to pull that information out of our course database, format it, and produce the publication (or most of the grunt work of it) automatically, using some sort of style transformation. But I can't provide this service because my staff are too busy with the daily cost of supporting desktop PCs, despite my own efforts to streamline that. (And yes, I've bought it to management's attention that we spend most of our time chasing our own tails instead of working to improve employee productivity).

      At some point, someone will have to "get it." Adapt or die.

    8. Re:great stuff! by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 1

      middle and upper management often look down on divisions that don't do "real work."

      I wonder if that might be considered irony.


      Only in an ironworks.

    9. Re:great stuff! by Resident_Geek · · Score: 1

      You bring up a point I have often wondered about. As an engineer I see company after company kill the section(s) that come-up with new products or build the infrastructure. Why is it that no one seems to realize you can't build one product forever? You have to have new stuff. There seems to be this idea that all that matters is tomorrow and not next year. Just because a division doesn't produce something physical doesn't mean it doesn't add to the bottom line. If that were true then no one would need bean counters.

      Maybe I am preaching to the choir. But why don't they teach this stuff and why doesn't anyone consider this?

  5. Just on time! by sinserve · · Score: 4, Funny

    Some of the topics include airplanes, crayons, and waterjet cutting.

    I was depressed after reading the story about tech jobs being
    outsourced. But this new story suggests me a new career and I can already
    see the light at the end of the tunnel. I am gonna become a World-Class
    Crayon maker.

    /me "borrows" candles blackout and emergency box ...

    1. Re:Just on time! by ruprechtjones · · Score: 1, Informative

      "I am gonna become a World-Class Crayon maker."

      Just watch out for such innovative naming conventions as "Flesh" and "Indian Red"...

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  6. Mr. Wizard by Jason1729 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I learned about this sort of thing watching Mr. Wizard's World when I was a kid. I gained my interest in science watching this show.

    Jason
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    1. Re:Mr. Wizard by hikaru1 · · Score: 1

      more recently, it was bill nye the science guy, but he's not on anymore, near where i live. who's going to fill the shoes?

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    2. Re:Mr. Wizard by ruprechtjones · · Score: 1

      I was one of the eight people on this planet that loved "Beakman's World". Damn I miss that giant rat.

      Great camera angles and editing for its time, fun stuff.

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    3. Re:Mr. Wizard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bill Nye was all window dressing, and very poor window dressing at that. It was just done so stupidly I couldn't watch it. I feel sorry for today's youth.

    4. Re:Mr. Wizard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you know where I can get episodes of Mr. Wizard? It's not on TV anymore and there don't seem to be any on Kazaa.

    5. Re:Mr. Wizard by hikaru1 · · Score: 1

      no way. beakman was (maybe) a little bit more entertaining, but the intelligence level was way lower.

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    6. Re:Mr. Wizard by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately I never saw Beakman's world, but I'm firmly in the Bill Nye is an idiot camp.

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    7. Re:Mr. Wizard by josh+crawley · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hmmm.

      Mr. Wizard: So this old man invites little boys and girls over to his house to do "experiments". We never meet Mrs. Wizard.

      No, there's nothing suspicious here.

    8. Re:Mr. Wizard by iomud · · Score: 1

      Every morning before school, Mr. Wizard would blow my mind with some crazy experiment. Remember his house and what not, well imagine if Mr. Wizard was just some guy who did experiments without a TV show or anything. I bet Mr. Wizard would get a visit from the fbi for all those chemicals he was buying. Or maybe the local law enforcement for all the kids coming and going from his house. I'm off on a tangent now... anyways, Mr. Wizard was an excellent show.

    9. Re:Mr. Wizard by ruprechtjones · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you saw Bill Nye's original work on "Almost Live", a local Seattle comedy show that had its heyday in the early nineties, you would actually dig him. To me, he went to shit when he was picked up by Disney, but so be it. I still have some props from his studio (a killer 5-foot paper-mache T-Rex foot, I think it was used for prints in the sand, whatever, it's cool hanging on my wall), even tho I stopped watching him on cable, I still respect the dude. Like most other 'mericans, he followed the money, and hopefully he's doing alright now.

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    10. Re:Mr. Wizard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bill Nye:Beakman::Sesame Street:Muppet Show

    11. Re:Mr. Wizard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except Sesame Street is educational and entertaining while Bill Nye is neither.

  7. Really usefull if you learn by example by strider3700 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I love it when places do this. I've always found it easiest to learn by watching someone else doing it, then copying, and then experimenting. I've learned basic cooking and baking, simple home repair and basic automotive repair this way all from tv. From there I usually realize I enjoy it, pick up a book or find a web site and get better at it. I'm currently in the middle of rebuilding a car using a manual a web forum and what I learned watching those hotrodding shows on TV saturday mornings. Now if only someone would release free videos of how to play with fiberglass and carbon fiber.

    1. Re:Really usefull if you learn by example by buck_wild · · Score: 2, Funny

      "...easiest to learn by watching someone else doing it, then copying, and then experimenting"

      Sounds like you're talking about puberty. Well, mine anyway.

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    2. Re:Really usefull if you learn by example by cap'n+foolsy · · Score: 2, Funny

      you were able to experiment? i got as far as the theory, then i felt all dirty.

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  8. Take a look at by AchmedHabib · · Score: 5, Informative

    Take a look at http://www.howstuffworks.com/. There's a lot of explanations for just about anything.

    1. Re:Take a look at by dmoore · · Score: 1

      Actually, I much prefer to use http://www.howshitworks.com/

    2. Re:Take a look at by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >There's a lot of explanations for just about anything.

      If their formatting doesn't make you puke first...

      10 scroll past ads and useless links
      20 read one paragraph
      30 click for next page
      40 goto 10

  9. this is college level? by paradesign · · Score: 2, Insightful

    it seemed to me like a crappily edited tape that theyed show to middle schoolers before a field trip. i watched the 'transportation / automobiles' and it was HORRIBLE. no mention of tolerances, or part placement. well no, the narator did say, "up it goes" when they put the engine in. this is hardly up to teh quality of MIT's open courseware, but hey, if perty colors is your idea of an education, go for it, im sure your 'accredited' degree is in the mail.

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    1. Re:this is college level? by bj8rn · · Score: 1

      I think it may even be. I remember seeing a story on TV about a US university (can't remember the name but it is famous for trusting the students not to cheat in exams), where they had a 'how stuff works' course. It was said to be their most popular course. Seemed pretty much mid- or high school level for me, but they still had a problem with cheaters who copied their course paper (an explanation about how some thing or another works)...

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    2. Re:this is college level? by Hal-9001 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're thinking of a physics for non-majors course at the University of Virginia. The instructor, Louis Bloomfield (author of How Things Work: The Physics of Everyday Life), used a program to check the final papers for that course for plagarism, and came up with a disturbing number of positive results.

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    3. Re:this is college level? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually it is directed more towards high school and middle school students

  10. wot me worry by segment · · Score: 1
    If you're an out of work geek, consider looking into the "old smoke-stack" industries for places where you could apply your software skills in helping companies improve margins through better automation and more efficient processes.

    I think for the out of work geeks, if they could've they would've and they wouldn't've (Bushism) been out of work geeks. Odd you should mention this, SecurityFocus' job list recently had a thread going on with people ranting about how bad the industry is. Personally I've found it's always good to know at least two other things to avoid falling into depression if the industry is bad and your out of work. I remember one of the threads where a CISSP certified guy was now cleaning airplanes, and he stated he was happier doing that, then being in the tech field.

    Oh well on-topic comment now, pardon me for being the first to say this, but does anyone here honestly have 4 hours to sit through this? I would rather waste my four hours reading some crypto files, or learning something different. I think this may be good for teens, and younger kids, but I can't think of any reason to waste 4 hours, heck not even 1 hour, looking at a clip. If I want to learn about something I'll google it thank you. Now hopefully you can place some real 'News for nerds' this weekend there taco/michael/etc.

  11. So... by cliffy2000 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    ...it's a live action How Stuff Works? Neat.

  12. Agent X by ndogg · · Score: 1

    Everything needs a little bit of Agent X, just so we could PowerPuff everything! Muahahahahaha!

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    1. Re:Agent X by deusexanimis · · Score: 1

      You mean Chemical X.

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  14. Hmmm by Timesprout · · Score: 3, Funny

    I dont see anything there about how babies are made

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  15. It is introductory. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Which means interesting and undestandable by anyone without specific prior knowledge. Their disclaimer says (with highlights added):
    AIM has developed an introductory website showing how various items are made. It covers over 40 different products and manufacturing processes, and includes almost 4 hours of manufacturing video. It is targeted towards non-engineers and engineers alike. Think of it as your own private online factory tour, or a virtual factory tour, if you wish. We are able to cover only a small number of products and processes, but we believe it will give you a good introduction to the world of manufacturing.

  16. No way! by jeffkjo1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    You mean I've been lied to all these years.... stuff isn't made by tiny gnomes who live inside of everything?

    1. Re:No way! by Timesprout · · Score: 2, Funny

      We prefer to be called Gnomes of Small Stature you insensitive clod

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    2. Re:No way! by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

      Whatever, just stay the hell away from my underpants!

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    3. Re:No way! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I for one welcome our new Gnomish overlords.

      Er. Underlords.

  17. oh so true. by twitter · · Score: 2, Insightful
    When I was a kid, all you had to do was tune in Mr. Rogers to see crayons being made.

    That was back when you did not need to sign a NDA or EULA to get a propriatory player to learn something. Mr. Rodgers came to you via published standard broadcasting signal. Now you gotta have a silly flash player, tomorrow you will have to have a DRM OS and dissapearing files for the distributed memory hole and universal censorship to work.

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    1. Re:oh so true. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well as capitalism fades into corporatism this is what you get...I don't know how anyone was expecting else...

  18. Buisness is booming. by twitter · · Score: 1
    I can see why you say it's dead field though, and honestly I do sympathize with the management's position - you either cut what you can or just close the doors. Once business stabilizes though, process engineering becomes important again.

    Booming in China, that is. It's so easy to exploit the poor bastards there with their wonderful centralized government. Once price pays all, all but the workers and engineers. Why pay 60,000 for a US process engineer when that might cover your entire Chinese or Russian payroll? Now that's sutting the doors but good. As long as there's money to be made selling stuff made by slave labor, labor will continue moving to non-free countries where wages can other expenses are kept low at gunpoint.

    This will stabilize one way or another. We will take what we want from the rest of the world by force of arms or go broke when we run out of things to trade. Agribusiness giants will continue profiting from grain exports, the rest of us will go under when there's no one left to buy what we make and sell. The "service economy" is bullshit. Other people know and can do what we do.

    Airplanes, crayons and all that. I wonder how old the archives are they used.

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  19. "maybe I would have stayed awake in class more" by PHAEDRU5 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, you should.

    Then you wouldn't have to spend the rest of your life railing against capitalism. Ya eejit.

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  20. Blogging... by bendsley · · Score: 0, Funny

    For years I have been attentively reading these online "blogs." Recently, it came to my attention, however, that I could read one every morning without ever having to fire up my PC. All I have to do is look between my legs when I take my morning shit. Sometimes it even burns my eyes, like looking directly into the sun. For this reason, I have termed myself a "blog factory." I have also noticed a correlation between diet and the number of blog entries I can produce in a given day. Sometimes I am unable to produce blog entries for extended periods of time. I have termed this condition "gastric bloggage." Sometimes I check the factory output log and know that a blog entry has been produced, but when I look into the shipping area, it is gone. Sometimes when I walk down the street, a dog will produce a blog entry in front of me in some attempt to communicate. I shove the blog entry into my ears and eyes, but I am still unable to understand. One day though...

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  21. Oh yeah, just try opening that door. by twitter · · Score: 2, Insightful
    If you're an out of work geek, consider looking into the "old smoke-stack" industries for places where you could apply your software skills in helping companies improve margins through better automation and more efficient processes.

    Good luck. You are likely to be trampled by all the early retirement package, people from closed plants and layoffs who were hoping that this new fangled IT thing might make them useful again. People like me, who would be happy to have another job at a power plant. Manufacturing has been "contracting" in the US for the last 25 years. It's been moving to Mexico, Canada, East Europe and other places. Trade with China put that trend on th fast track. Big dumb companies have moved lots of IT offshore, engineering jobs took off with the factories and soon the consulting firms will have serious competition from them.

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  22. chickenwire? by jovlinger · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know how chicken wire is made? The best I could come up with grows it one strand at a time widthwise (ie, along the ground, given its eventual orientation).

    This just seems a bit slow.

    1. Re:chickenwire? by Timesprout · · Score: 2, Funny

      A bunch of chickens are fed a large amount of cocaine and then show a video of the life and works of Buckminster Fuller. They are then let loose in a wire factory and hey presto Chicken Wire.

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  23. Re: Accurate Predictions by I(rispee_I(reme · · Score: 1
    This will stabilize one way or another...

    ...unless it doesn't. ;)
  24. Obviously.... by CyanDisaster · · Score: 0
    ...he wasn't awake as he typed this:
    ...I only they had this when I had studied mechanical engineering - maybe I would have stayed awake in class more...
    *shrugs*

    We all have our moments...

    Hope be with ye,
    Cyan
  25. I hope the poster didn't pass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "I only they had this when I had studied mechanical engineering - maybe I would have stayed awake in class more."

    Stick to the crayons, dude. I wouldn't want to cross any bridges you "engineered."

  26. Mod parent up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hahahahaha mate that's freakin' hilarious, no shit

  27. Fun stuff. Don't forget howstuffworks.com by WoTG · · Score: 1, Redundant

    This rather reminds me of HowStuffWorks.com - I've just noticed that they have done a site redesign. A whole lot of neat documents there...

  28. Re:Fun stuff. Don't forget howstuffworks.com by B747SP · · Score: 1

    HowStuffWorks always used to suck because of that popup that just would not go away. Looks like they got rid of it with they re-design. Cool, I might visit the site more often now!

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  29. How Everyday Things are Mad by pe1chl · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is what it says in the upper-right corner of the screen.
    Or is that only when played on Linux?

  30. Hate to say it, but it's a good thing by weave · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Anything that increases productivity is a good thing. You want people to increase their standard of living. There is only so much wealth in the world to go around. You can either muck with the system to redistribute that wealth, or you can work to create more wealth so there is more to go around.

    Increasing productivity increases wealth. Unfortunately, some people don't get it. For example, if you force redistribution of wealth to balance things out and screw it up by removing incentives to increase productivity, you often descrease productivity and hence destroy wealth.

    Imagine back about 150 years ago when most of our society was agrarian. More than half of all labor went into producing food. Not a lot of luxuries back then. When automated farm equipment came out, a lot of farm hands lost their jobs. Was this a bad thing? Of course not. Because food became cheaper, jobs shifted to manufacturing where goods were produced to make people's lives easier, etc, etc...

    When jobs shift to other countries, some wealth shifts there too. But usually the productivity gains are more than enough to offset the loss in wealth because there's more of it to go around. It also helps the lives of other people in other countries to improve. Is that such a bad thing? Having a billion people in this world just sitting around and not being productive is a horrible waste of the world's potential. They should be out there making cheap toys for Happy Meals damn it!

    Beyond the economic benefits there are also other benefits. As each country's economy becomes dependent on others, they are less likely to take hostile action against each other (although introduce religion into the mix and all logic and sense goes out the window).

    As was posted by someone else above, there are still opportunities in IT to increase productivity in workers in your native country. As I look around my job site now, I see a tremendous amount of time spent in desktop support issues. I think the current design of software and OSes really suck. Lack of security, viruses, software that, when installed, can negatively affect other software on a PC, user's mucking with and destroying settings on PCs, etc, etc. Too much time in IT is spent with desktop support issues, fixing software issues, supporting users and not finding ways to improve the business process and hence increase productivity all around. There's also a horrible lack in adequate training. There are software tools out there to help, but employees don't know how to use it. How many in management know how to use software to plan things using a project-planning program for example?

    1. Re:Hate to say it, but it's a good thing by gears5665 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      very good post. While I'm for redistribution of wealth from people who don't contribute through some kind of labor, the comment I had is that the reduction in food pricing and clothing pricing is wonderful until there is price fixing in Cereals that cost 4$ a pop or clothing that costs 30 cents to make,transport,etc and 50$ on the shelf.

    2. Re:Hate to say it, but it's a good thing by eyeye · · Score: 1

      It sounds good but what have people benefitted really? We still have to work to live, but now we work to buy bits of plastic we have been trained to want. We are all still peons.

      If people werent buying $200 nikes that were made for $5 by a 10 year old sweat shop worker i'd agree with your rosy picture.

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    3. Re:Hate to say it, but it's a good thing by NoMaster · · Score: 1

      "Imagine back about 150 years ago when most of our society was based on Information Technology. More than half of all labor went into producing computerised knowledge systems. Not a lot of luxuries back then. When offshore IT shops came about, a lot of IT workers lost their jobs. Was this a bad thing? Of course not. Because IT became cheaper, jobs shifted to nanomolecular biotechnology where goods were produced to make people's lives easier, etc, etc..."

      What goes around comes around...

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    4. Re:Hate to say it, but it's a good thing by smithmc · · Score: 1

      How many in management know how to use software to plan things using a project-planning program for example?

      That would be a valid question - that is, if there were any decent project-planning applications out there...

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  31. Taking a step backwards... by swordgeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The first thing I thought of when I read the subject was closer to 'how everyday things are created,' a cause near and dear to my heart.

    Manufacturing is fascinating stuff, but my wife is an industrial designer, and as a result I get to see the REALLY neat parts--the research/design/prototype/test process that feeds into manufacturing.

    Not too many people thing about the work that goes into making a chair (for example) fit properly, but it's a complex process and one that requires a lot more engineering than people realise.

    Nothing really important to say here--just thought that people (especially those younger /.ers who haven't yet decided on a career) who find the manufacturing process interesting might also give a thought towards the industrial design aspect.

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    1. Re:Taking a step backwards... by gears5665 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Not too many people thing about the work that goes into making a chair (for example) fit properly, but it's a complex process and one that requires a lot more engineering than people realise.

      With 10,000 years of prior art, forgive me if I thought that chair design was something we as a society had already perfected...

    2. Re:Taking a step backwards... by swordgeek · · Score: 1

      I'm rather annoyed that you've been modded down. It's easy for me to scoff having been through these arguements and (eventually) come out on the other side, but here's the thing.

      Every new chair is a new design. (The same holds for everything else, of course.)

      If I'm going to build a chair, naturally there's tons of history behind it. We know how a chair 'works.'

      BUT, to make a chair and especially sell it commercially, we have to make sure that it's wide enough for fat people to sit in, that the armrests are at a reasonable height, that the chair seat can actually support a given weight and that the legs can withstand the pressure. Let's not forget angles of how everything goes together, and the height of the back, or seatpan off the ground.

      In fact, look at all of the adjustments available on a good task chair, and realise that every one of those is a fixed value in (say) a dining room chair. If you don't get them right (not always the same values, but they have to work--and work together), then you've got a chair that doesn't work. And it happens. We were at a festival this summer, and they had started selling a new festival chair. The first bad sign was that it warned against use by anyone over 215lbs. As it turns out, they were folding up after five hours of use by pretty much anyone over 180lbs! That is a BAD design, and we just shook our heads about how all of the weight was being focused on a bend in the tubular aluminium frame.

      So even with something as simple and beaten-to-death as chairs, while there may not be much to discover, you still have to design it properly. Also, it would be silly to say that we know everything there is about chairs--there are still really innovative designs out there, like the Airon and the Taz.

      Now let's talk about computer keyboards...

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  32. still need to replace more people with machines by gears5665 · · Score: 1

    I watched the harly davidson motorcycle manufacture and immediately saw ways for them to reduce up to 100 people in their manufacturing process through automation. I thought this was all done in the 1980s and 90s.

    1. Re:still need to replace more people with machines by Cyno01 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm in milwaukee right now watching the Harley 100 aniverssary parade on tv right now. A bit of history, Harleys used to be manufactured by assembly line, but their quality declined so much that the company almost went under, it changed hands a few times, and was eventually bought by the employees. Now the bikes are hand assembled by four man teams.

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  33. And today kids by TCM · · Score: 2, Funny

    we learn how molten piles of server goo are made.

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  34. Re: Chemical X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have you ever wondered why a lonely middle-aged scientist such as Professor Utonium would try an experiment to create "perfect little girls"? It seems there are similar hints in just about any science-related show.

  35. You're wrong about process engineering by xtal · · Score: 1

    Sorry, but process engineering is a dead field right now.

    I make a very tidy sum doing process customization and optimization for this "dead" industry, in a small city on the east coast. If you can make a process more efficient, there's always money to be made. I don't know about larger industries, but smaller companies have been a goldmine for me. I'm an EE with an embedded design specialty, and right now I have more projects than I can handle.

    The pulp mills in the area are hiring qualified people as well.

    I don't know about the sysadmin / IT thing though. You might have a point, but this is far from a dead field.

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  36. How airplanes are made? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dear, God! You're helping the terrorists! All citizens should restrict giving out information and allow the government to know everything and protect us. We should all live in holes in the ground with guns and wait for the bad people to come and then blammo! I'm scared. Hold me.

  37. Havn't had my coffee yet... by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

    Wow, i had to read that twice before i caught the word wire. I was wondering how chickens could be grown one strand at a time.

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  38. Carpentry by leoboiko · · Score: 1

    Somewhat OT, but lately I've been interested in learning a bit of carpentry. Any slashdotter's recommendations of online tutorials about working with wood?

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  39. How I and you was made by crazysim · · Score: 0

    I found out by watching some hardcore pr0n at school.

  40. It's for 12 year olds by Animats · · Score: 1
    This presentation seems to be addressed to intelligent 12-year-olds. It's below the Discovery Channel level, but above Sesame Street.

    Then again, there's a sizable portion of the population today that's never been inside a factory of any kind.

    There used to be thousands of "industrial films", (many of which are online here), intended for instruction and used for advertising. Watching some of those will give you a good sense of how things were really made.

  41. water jets are cool :) by timothy · · Score: 1

    The following comment is neither deep nor original, but ...

    Waterjets are cool.

    When I was small (too small to remember, but I've been back to the place), I lived in a house with central vacuum. Central vacuums always puzzle me; Sure, it's a bit lighter than carrying around a complete vac, but it seems to introduce fiddly bits in places (like walls) where trouble could become Trouble when something goes wrong, and introduces a much longer tube along which suction must be maintained.

    However, waterjets are another story. Central waterjets would rock :)

    Dremel? What's that, the 20th century? Forget about keeping a loaded pistol around for burglars, save that for the range and the black helicopters -- just have your water pressure set to "maim."

    I'd like to see a Blofeld-type villain set up his elaborate death trap so the protagonist would be (if not rescued / escapes) sliced in pieces by a waterjet

    timothy

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    1. Re:water jets are cool :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For your evilly villainous torture device needs, these guys ought to be able to hook you up.

  42. Here's another good one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would also recommend the television show How It's Made, which airs on Discovery Channel.

  43. Re:yodase by Eideewt · · Score: 1

    I like the original there better than that parody by the Kinks.

  44. didn't know that. by gears5665 · · Score: 1

    I didn't know that. Thank you for your post. I'd still rather use a machine put together by a machine than by a person. Once something is automated correctly I'd rather trust the machine than the human.