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Company Christmas Gifts / Bonuses?

A wisely anonymous reader writes "Following my company's Christmas party on Friday, I found myself the proud recipient of... a bobble head doll of the company CEO! Needless to say I was PISSED. They didn't even comp. parking at the site of the party, let alone a bonus. yeah, yeah, times are tough. I should be happy just to have a job. but getting a damn doll of the guy who made 65 million last year just makes me angry. So... What did you get from your Company for Christmas?"

1,249 comments

  1. At HP..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We got 2.3% for good profits. Thats all....we didn't even have a party.

    1. Re:At HP..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Small company and pre-IPO but we all got a nice mug shot of Ben Franklin in green half-tones. Its not much but figuring we'd be tango-uniform early next year if we hadn't just gotten another round of funding from the vulture capitalists, I won't knock it. Also, we had a nice catered lunch (at the office) with plenty of stuff to drink. Not the Ritz but better than the year our funding didn't happen in time (pot-luck at the office that time).

      IMNSHO, holiday bonuses are given by a company that has done well during the year to reward the people who have made it happen. When the economy sucks, so do the bonuses. Suck it up and quit your bitchin; unemployment doesn't give a year end bonus either.

      I have to admit that a bobblehead doll of the CEO is pretty tacky. You could bring in a "nerf gun" and target practice.

    2. Re:At HP..... by sickboy_macosX · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      You know, at least most of you are fsckin employed, I myself am unemployed, i have been for a year. If you want to whine some morew about not getting your fscking christmas bonus I will take your job Ok that feels Better and in the words of Mr. Garrison "Merry Fucking Christmas" :-)

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    3. Re:At HP..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I got a christmas bonus, free booze at 3 parties and a night of extreme passion with one of the girls from the office.

      What a year!!

    4. Re:At HP..... by WindowsTroll · · Score: 1

      Not meaning to troll here, but you sound quite ungracious.

      First of all, I am really wondering what kind of mentality we have here that everyone thinks that they are entitled to bonuses and such. And then complain when they only get 2.3%. I would be quite pleased if I got any kind of bonus.

      I think that the blanket bonus is a bad idea. It makes people think that they are entitled for something which they may not have worked for. Historically, they were known as end-of-year bonuses and not Christmas bonuses, and they were only given to the top performers of the year. But employees in mass complained because it seemed that only the same people ever received the bonuses, so obviously it was a plan to reward favoritism, so after much complaints, it morphed into a blanket bonus where everyone got money.

      The best thing for business to do is to get rid of all end-of-year bonuses and get rid of peoples perception that they are entitled to something that they may not have earned. Business should pay people what they are worth and forgo the bonuses. The people who work hard get more and those who don't get less - which is the way it should be. If people want more money, make them work for it - and if they don't want to work harder, don't reward them.

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  2. Work by jbf · · Score: 4, Funny

    Enough to be stuck in the office on a Sunday evening.

    1. Re:Work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you didn't waste all your time at the office reading and posting to Slashdot, maybe you wouldn't have to be working on a Sunday evening.

    2. Re:Work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i got more work and a basket of biscut mix & jelly. whooopdy-dooo

    3. Re:Work by jbf · · Score: 1

      Or, maybe I'd get more work. Funny how these things work out. (In reality, I look at slash when I am waiting for something, like a program run to finish.)

    4. Re:Work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Welcome to our "modern" day version of Robber Baron capitalism. ...The Revolution has been outlawed.

    5. Re:Work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i got kicked in aug, had my unemployment blocked and now have a job that is 1/3 of my original wages and could end up loosing my house and car. ofcource i am into the networking/telco end which is crashing and a flooded market now :( so much for a good replacement job......

      marry bah-humbug! and a piss poor new year to all!

      -tiz da psyco.. just forgot my password :))

    6. Re:Work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well the Air Force gave me a 6 month tour in Kyrgyzstan this year as a Christmas gift...

    7. Re:Work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well...I think C&W give the best bonuses I can think of...they actually make you redundant..! This is a bonus...believe me..If you worked for this bunch of incompitents you'd think that way too...!

    8. Re:Work by Adler · · Score: 1

      look at the bright side, you're screwing them over by reading /. rather than working! your my hero, if it amounts to anything.

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  3. iPod!!! by TiMac · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't know what I'll get (if anything), but what I *want* is an iPod. Go to the Apple Store and click on iPod....it seems Apple offers discounts on iPods for companies that give them as gifts! C'mon boss!!!!

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    1. Re:iPod!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh, my dept got ours about 2 months ago .. we needed some portable firewire backup drives and the 20gb version seemed to fit the bill .....

    2. Re:iPod!!! by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 2

      $300 a piece for the cheapest?? I don't see any mention of discounts. Even so, if your company can afford to give away that much stuff to its employees then tell us where you work!!

    3. Re:iPod!!! by kauff · · Score: 2, Funny

      Umm... Geeky worker> Buy me an iPod, please. Take it as my christmas/hannukah/birthday present. Boss> No GW(not Bush)>Come on, have you seen this offer at www.apple.com/kids/porn/super-offer... B> Negative GW> But my productivity raised 948% last year! B> Tough luck GW> I've been a good good boy! B> You're fired.

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    4. Re:iPod!!! by rhombic · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe they should give out staplers?

      And if not, maybe matches?

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    5. Re:iPod!!! by Hott+of+the+World · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      I believe you have my stapler.

      Damn it feels good to be a gangster.

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    6. Re:iPod!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a corporate discount of 10% if you buy 5 or more. Just stroll into a store and ask anyone

    7. Re:iPod!!! by rmohr02 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Hey Peter man--check out channel nine!

    8. Re:iPod!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      He clearly works in 1998.

    9. Re:iPod!!! by catwh0re · · Score: 1

      I was going to add this one too. Everyone wants to work at your work place when you give ipods for christmas. Nerdy places give out Geforce4's for christmas.

    10. Re:iPod!!! by sowellfan · · Score: 1

      You know, Swingline is selling red staplers
      now (the one in Office Space was actually painted
      for the movie).

      Here's the link

      http://www.swingline.com/

    11. Re:iPod!!! by ZenBuddha · · Score: 1

      Only if its a Red Swingline ;)

  4. Could be worse... by Nefrayu · · Score: 1

    Last year I got laid off for Christmas.

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    1. Re:Could be worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last year I got laid off for Christmas.

      Last year I got laid

    2. Re:Could be worse... by mehfu · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, last year I got laid for christmas.

      Last week she left me...

      A Philishave would be nice, though.
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    3. Re:Could be worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      sorry, relatives and animals don't count.

    4. Re:Could be worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got sucked off.

    5. Re:Could be worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me too. Last year got laid off, at least this year didn't. So I got to keep my job for Christmas.
      Plus the company sponsered cater, with the bosses passing out the food.

    6. Re:Could be worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, last year I got laid off too! It got to November and my contract expired (after the company had been telling me for over a month that the renewal documentation was just being sorted out), leaving me in a hideous job market and unemployed for Christmas.

      It took until July before I got another contract. That one expired two weeks ago...

      Another Merry Christmas!

    7. Re:Could be worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to get laid (without the off)...

    8. Re:Could be worse... by AnonymousCowheard · · Score: 1
      Well, last year I got laid for christmas.

      Last week she left me...

      mehfu, according to Jeff Foxworthy's knowledge, you must be a geek:

      "You must be a geek...if you can remember the last time you were laid."

      "You must be a geek...if your only desired Christmas present is to get laid."

      In the words of nelson...HA HA! "You must be a geek...if you asked to get laid for a Christmas present and you are given a rubber tree that of'course was laid by whoever you asked."

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      But I'm sure you already Gnu that.
    9. Re:Could be worse... by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 2

      Damn, not even the wife? Shit.

    10. Re:Could be worse... by Oestergaard · · Score: 2

      Pardon my ignorance...

      But how on earth would you want to do that with a Philishave ?!?

    11. Re:Could be worse... by SomeGuyFromCA · · Score: 1

      This year, go to Hawaii and get lei'd!

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    12. Re:Could be worse... by desideria · · Score: 1

      Funny, that's what I got this year. It's the gift that keeps on giving, so I hear

    13. Re:Could be worse... by peterzum · · Score: 1

      I got laid off for this Christmas, right before finals and four months before we have baby #2.

    14. Re:Could be worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This year I did get laid off for Christmas.. Joy :-))

    15. Re:Could be worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this year, I got laid off for Christmans. Thanks Sprint!

    16. Re:Could be worse... by mehfu · · Score: 1

      Well, if I get a Philishave maybe I can get rid of the bush covering my face. It usually helps when trying to get laid. Believe me ;)

    17. Re:Could be worse... by Nipok+Nek · · Score: 1

      If you have bush covering your face, you are *currently* getting laid!

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    18. Re:Could be worse... by Spamlent+Green · · Score: 1

      Same here. I got laid off, then the next day we had to schlep to the company holiday party at the most expensive hotel in DC. We then witnessed the owner corner our other co-worker alone at a table and proceed to drop the axe on him in front of everyone. charming.

    19. Re:Could be worse... by michael_cain · · Score: 2
      Laid off this year due to "change in control."

      Really torn about it. Part of me is happy that I won't have to work for the new owners. Part of me is horribly depressed by the prospects of being 49 years old with 24 years of service and having to go out and hit the job market.

  5. voodoo by doofusclam · · Score: 5, Funny

    Use it as a voodoo doll and stick pins in the wretched thing!

    1. Re:voodoo by saskboy · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd sell it on eBay. It could turn into a lot of money after all.

      Hey, I managed to sell an empty, used, chewed BIC pen. CEO bobble heads could be pricesless...

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    2. Re:voodoo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Assume the AC stickes a knife in its back. A few weeks later the real ceo has the same thing happen. How much would it be worth on ebay then or would be blacklisted under one of their funny categorys?

    3. Re:voodoo by CerebusUS · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about this:

      Hang it in effigy. Get a bunch of your co-workers to do the same, hang about 20 of them in effigy from coat hangers.

      If anyone asks, it's a mobile.

    4. Re:voodoo by macdaddy357 · · Score: 5, Informative

      A bobblehead of the boss! Has anyone submitted this to pud@fuckedcompany.com? The poster should, and should name the company and CEO. I am surprised nobody has gone postal over such an insult. I wonder if that bobblehead would still look cute shoved sideways up the boss's ass? Does anyone know the name of the company who did this?

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    5. Re:voodoo by krugdm · · Score: 2

      Read this story about the former Alabama coach who left his team in the lurch when he bolted schools. It seems the school is stuch with 1000's of bobble heads of him.

      One populat idea what to charge a few bucks and give people a 3-wood and tee off on his head. That was dismissed as being too mean spirited...

    6. Re:voodoo by jmccay · · Score: 2

      Or hang the doll. Or next time you you need a break, get a bunch of them and go bowling.

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    7. Re:voodoo by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 2

      Even better: get about 20 of them, cover in lighter fluid and toast `em. Put a video of the barbeque on the net.

    8. Re:voodoo by RealOldGuy · · Score: 1

      Keep it. Use it as a drinking buddy or a reminder of lost innocence. Or both.

    9. Re:voodoo by Eccles · · Score: 1

      Personally, I was boggled they wouldn't expect most of them to be used as targets... Pull!

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    10. Re:voodoo by Gantoris · · Score: 1

      Step 1: Make effigy/mobile
      Step 2: Cover effigy in lighter fluid, light from a distance
      Step 3: ???
      Step 4: Profit!

      /me ducks and runs for cover...

    11. Re:voodoo by mjpaci · · Score: 2

      Isn't Oracle already mentioned on F*ckedCompany.com quite a bit?

    12. Re:voodoo by sysadmn · · Score: 2

      Take up a collection from your coworkers. Pay the janitor $5 to leave one in the urinal in the executive washroom. Every week, for the next year.
      Now that's a gift that keeps on giving.

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    13. Re:voodoo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no shiite. It would be worth the 2 years in jail to actually grab a couple of people to help you pin him down and actually shove it up his ass.

  6. Christmas bonus - why? by ColdGrits · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So what makes you think you shoudl have the automatic right to DEMAND a Christmas "bonus"?

    What exactly have you done that is so special and above what you are paid to do that justifies your expectation of extra pay purely because it is december?

    Genuine question.

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    1. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by lordscarlet · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I believe the issue is that money was spent on him, but it was worthless. He would much rather see money on his paycheck than a bobblehead of the CEO that is going straight into the garbage.

    2. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IMHO, a Christmas bonus is a way for your company to let you know that you're appreciated.

      Receiving a bobble head of the CEO isn't a way to let someone know you're appreciated... I'd take it more as a gag gift. Sounds to me like the CEO's rubbing it in everybody's face, personally... though it might depend on his personality.

    3. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know about the poor sod who wrote the little rant to start with, but a bobble head doll of the CEO?

      That isn't a bonus, it is a damnable insult. The idiot who came up with that rather than nothing has an obvious death wish.

    4. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by ckuhtz · · Score: 1

      shoot, why bother paying anyone at all. hey, it's just money.

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    5. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Two things:

      1.) A lot of salaried people work a whole helluva lot of overtime, especially towards the end of the year. They don't get overtime or anything for this because it's just 'part of their job'. It's not unreasonable to want to get a bit of compensation for that extra work.

      2.) There are some companies who are doing better now-a-days (like mine) than they were a year ago. This is often a result of hard workers within the company. Reward us.

      I never expect one, but I'm pleasantly surprised if I do get one.

    6. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by s20451 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      By any chance have you read this? It might answer your question.

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    7. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Distributing a bobblehead of the CEO is self-serving of the CEO rather than anything that is of value to the employees.

      Whatever they spent on the design and making of such thing has to be seen as wasted spending. It did not relate the the product of the company, and it likely hurt the company's ability to retain employees.

      The Christmas bonus is a concept in which the owners of the company give to the employees money that they don't have to because that giving inspires goodwill between the employees and the company. Employees who like their present employer are less likely to start looking for ways to jump to the competition or into another field.

      For the company to say "Sorry, times are tough, we can't afford a bonus/party/gift" is acceptable if it's true. For the CEO to flaunt his ability to spend company money on his own image while saying that times are tough is an action that is so loud it drowns out his words.

    8. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Okay, nice troll.While I can definitely agree with your sentiment, consider this:

      What did the CEO do that is so special that it creates his/her expectation of 6-figure salaries with use of company assets and a golden parachute regardless of the time of year?

      Are they that much better educated or hard working? Probably not. Are they really that good of a manager? Probably not. It's hard not to be lazy when you have a staff of assistants and your leather chair and hardwood desk are so comfy after that prime rib lunch today...

      Maybe if people were simply paid better for the work they DO, they wouldn't be behind on bills and expect a bonus just to make ends meet.I don't buy the whole "times are tough" bullshit when stuff like this goes on. I'm talking about hooking people up with less than a $1000 to show some appreciation for those who stick around and put up with company politics, backstabbing, and egos.

      Yeah, I'm sure the childless, single people with no responsibilities will chime in with suggestions about better managing finances...but you folks are obviously more readily able to absorb unforseeable hits on your pocketbook because you aren't paying for daycare. health insurance, etc. So what if you have to buy 20 less lattes this month and can't afford that new masturbatory turbo video card. Oh, my bleeding heart...

    9. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What did the CEO do that is so special that it creates his/her expectation of 6-figure salaries with use of company assets and a golden parachute regardless of the time of year?

      I seriously doubt the CEO makes anything less than 7 figures. Maybe even 8!

    10. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Burnon · · Score: 2

      My guess is that some toadie came up with the idea as a way of ingratiating itself with the CEO. I imagine most CEOs can serve themselves in more meaningful ways!

    11. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by vistic · · Score: 5, Funny
      Whatever they spent on the design and making of such thing has to be seen as wasted spending. It did not relate the the product of the company, and it likely hurt the company's ability to retain employees.

      Hey, he never said where he works. Maybe he works for a bobblehead making company.

    12. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by ColdGrits · · Score: 2

      "What did the CEO do that is so special that it creates his/her expectation of 6-figure salaries with use of company assets and a golden parachute regardless of the time of year?"

      Nice try, but our CEO has drawn ZERO salary for the past 18 months, and will continue to draw ZERO salary until our company is back in profitability again.

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    13. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by ColdGrits · · Score: 2, Informative

      " You sound like a business major to me."

      LOL!!!

      Nope, 'fraid you are way off there.
      Just an average guy working 50 hours per week salaried (with no christmas bonus this year 'cos times is hard) who is glad to still have a job.

      Still, you carry on trolling if it helps you get through the day.

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    14. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by aggieben · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree. Some newbie marketing drone probably came up with it. More likely, a newbie marketing drone's intern came up with it, the marketing drone stole the idea and kept the intern's christmas bonus.

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    15. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by shogun · · Score: 2

      ....bobblehead of the CEO that is going straight into the garbage.

      What, not to be kept around as a voodoo effigy? What a waste.

    16. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Resident_Geek · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Finally someone with the clarity of mind to understand the problem. Thank you. To extend his point. Why should a CEO be paid in the millions for what he does. There is no justification for those high salaries especially when the company is hurting. And it is almost never the average Joe Blow actually on the phone lines/assembly lines/etc that is responsible for the poor performance. But they are the ones that have to shoulder the burden. If the company is doing bad, then the owners and management should take paycuts long before the low employees have to. If you don't agree then look at it this way. How much would your respect for your boss change if your boss took a paycut and you didn't have to. That is real leadership. I say this as the owner and CEO of my own small company. My people are always eager to put my needs first because I always put them first. Put another way, it is the Golden Rule.

    17. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Verteiron · · Score: 1

      Which is really kind of meaningless, considering the the CEO probably has enough money to live comfortably off the interest alone for the rest of his/her life.

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    18. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Triv · · Score: 1, Redundant

      It did not relate the the product of the company, and it likely hurt the company's ability to retain employees.

      Oh YEAH? How do you know his company doesn't make bobble-head dolls? :)

      Triv

    19. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by macdaddy357 · · Score: 2

      How small of a company is it, and are you hiring? You took a pay cut yourself, instead of firing workers, and giving yourself a bonus for "having the courage to make tough decisions." I would proudly work for a company like yours.

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    20. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Yeah, I'm sure the childless, single people with no responsibilities will chime in with suggestions about better managing finances...but you folks are obviously more readily able to absorb unforseeable hits on your pocketbook because you aren't paying for daycare. health insurance, etc. So what if you have to buy 20 less lattes this month and can't afford that new masturbatory turbo video card. Oh, my bleeding heart...

      So don't have kids, you stupid fuck. I should suffer hits in pay and bonuses because I'm single and didn't get hitched and knock up some bitch three times? Fuck you.

    21. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How? How many bobble-head doll companies do you think there are with a CEO that makes $65M/year?

    22. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Issue9mm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ummm... forgive me if I come across as rude, but I'm married, with child, and I'll happily chime in about better managing your finances, but that's not what I'm doing... what I'm doing is telling you to get your priorities straight. You shouldn't have brought a child into this world until you knew you could support them without having to rely on a bonus that you may or may not ever get.

      I don't mean to seem overly rough here... I know how hard it is to raise children, and managing your life around a family, but I felt it was my duty to make sure that I could provide for my child before we ventured out to have one.

      -9mm-

    23. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Distributing a bobblehead of the CEO is self-serving of the CEO rather than anything that is of value to the employees.

      Whatever they spent on the design and making of such thing has to be seen as wasted spending. It did not relate the the product of the company, and it likely hurt the company's ability to retain employees.

      Hey, just use it as a voodoo doll, and stick a couple of needles into it! Personnally, I'd love to get a doll of our CEO for Christmas, and another one of his buddy Patrick Beaver!

    24. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Tovaris · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've never answer a thread on Slashdot before but your ignorance is going to twist my arm. I own a small R&D Engineering company and have 20 of the best co-workers in the world. And I wish that I could give them a "real" bonus this year but times are tough and I am face with two choices;
      1) Treat them like they deserve with a nice bonus and then lay them off 01/02/03.
      2) Thank them for all of their hard work and through them a nice Christmas party.
      Judging by your comments you have never truly held a position of responsibility. Next time, please
      think before you speak.

      And for the record I am an Engineer.

    25. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yeah, I'm sure the childless, single people with no responsibilities will chime in with suggestions about better managing finances...but you folks are obviously more readily able to absorb unforseeable hits on your pocketbook because you aren't paying for daycare. health insurance, etc. So what if you have to buy 20 less lattes this month and can't afford that new masturbatory turbo video card. Oh, my bleeding heart...

      So don't have kids, you stupid fuck. I should suffer hits in pay and bonuses because I'm single and didn't get hitched and knock up some bitch three times? Fuck you.
      Exactly - and if you're going to fuck over your kids' childhood by sticking them with day care, at least have the gumption to start your own company rather than bitching about the one you're a slave to! A hundred years ago, it was all about sole proprietorships, and if life sucked, you couldn't blame it on your BOSS.
    26. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Im more like "hey man, gotta lotta expenses, can you spare me $50,000 this season?"

    27. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beauty flame!

      agree 100%

    28. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by IndependentVik · · Score: 2

      Nice try, but our CEO has drawn ZERO salary for the past 18 months, and will continue to draw ZERO salary until our company is back in profitability again.

      That's called an exception to the rule. You haven't refuted anything the parent said.

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    29. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by JonSari · · Score: 1

      >>>Yeah, I'm sure the childless, single people with no responsibilities will chime in with suggestions about better managing finances...but you folks are obviously more readily able to absorb unforseeable hits on your pocketbook because you aren't paying for daycare. health insurance, etc.

      We all make life choices and deal with the consequences. I assume that having children was a conscious choice on your part. Do you appreciate having them in your life?

    30. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by dcocos · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, I'm sure the childless, single people with no responsibilities will chime in with suggestions about better managing finances...
      but you folks are obviously more readily able to absorb unforseeable hits on your pocketbook because you aren't paying for daycare. health insurance, etc. So what if you have to buy 20 less lattes this month and can't afford that new masturbatory turbo video card. Oh, my bleeding heart...


      Just because YOU and partner, made the choice to have children is not a reasonable justification for the lack of fiscal responsibility. Perhaps instead of me buying twenty less lattes this month you should of had the fore sight to learn about birth control.

      It also insenses me that you have the nerve to make it seem like companies favor childless, single people. I've received many an e-mail from my employers about Halloween parties for children of employees or Santa visiting, those dollars spent could go to my salary or a nice party for the "Adults"

      As far as being able to absorb unforseeable hit to the pocket book. I'm sure that "S/he has a family to support" has influenced many a layoff.

    31. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by chriso11 · · Score: 1

      Such an intellegent, thoughtful approach to children would have two effects:
      1) More healthy, well adjusted kids; and,
      2) A considerable reduction in world overpopulation.

      While you or I may have done that, it would take another 5999999996 people for it to really be effective.

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    32. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by CashCarSTAR · · Score: 1

      Just to let you know..most people realize that times are tough, especially in a small business, and if there is not the money to go around, then there is not the money to go around. What people don't like is when the money all goes to the management for fancy perks while the people who actually make the money get screwed. The given example of a Bobblehead of the CEO..well that's just arrogant and plain mean-spirited. It's rubbing it in.

    33. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by twhip · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, most of us are not wise enough to wait until we are independently wealthy to marry and have children. Some were even foolish start those projects before the notion that all workers are temp workers took solid hold.

      Waiting for independent wealth would be a really good form of birth control. If we insist that the fertile women make it on their own, no marrying the ceo allowed, there shouldn't be many children running around at all. Of course, a few young women and men in their twenties and thirties will inherit enough income producing property early enough, but most will never make it at all.

    34. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1

    35. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by amoups · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Why should a CEO be paid in the millions for what he does.

      In Japan, it is illegal for the lowes-paid employee in any given company to be paid less than a specified percentage of the highest-paid employee. It's a bit of a socialist tendency, but there's definitely some thought behind the law.

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    36. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by FuryG3 · · Score: 1

      Um, even if you are salaried, you are required to be paid for overtime. There have been many lawsuits because of this, and in all the ones I have heard of the employees won (in CA anyways)

      I always assumed it came along with the job in IT, and never complained. Untill one year I was very sick (2.5 weeks) and they started docking my pay into the third week.

      If they keep track, so should you. Time and a half is your right.

    37. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by 0x0d0a · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What did the CEO do that is so special that it creates his/her expectation of 6-figure salaries with use of company assets and a golden parachute regardless of the time of year?

      Uh...he expects it because he negotiated said deal when he was getting hired. If you feel that you can negotiate similar perks, go for it.

      Are they that much better educated or hard working? Probably not. Are they really that good of a manager? Probably not. It's hard not to be lazy when you have a staff of assistants and your leather chair and hardwood desk are so comfy after that prime rib lunch today...

      Whether or not CEOs deserve their pay is up to debate (I suspect they don't, and that the reason that they get paid so highly is because they frequently know/are friends with members of the board). However, that has nothing to do with expectations *after* their contract is signed.

      I don't buy the whole "times are tough" bullshit when stuff like this goes on. I'm talking about hooking people up with less than a $1000 to show some appreciation for those who stick around and put up with company politics, backstabbing, and egos.

      "I deserve extra because I worked here and interacted with people." What?

    38. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

      You know, not to say that your CEO is doing this, but despite the fact that Jobs drew $1 salary for two years at Apple (and trumpeted that fact around quite a bit), he didn't make a big deal of the the millions of dollars in options *or* the LearJet that the company gave him over that time period.

    39. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by gwernol · · Score: 5, Informative

      How much would your respect for your boss change if your boss took a paycut and you didn't have to. That is real leadership.

      The small/medium sized company I work for had a hard start to 2002. Our CEO took a 20% pay cut and the rest of the senior management team (the VP level people) took a 10% pay cut. All other salaries were frozen. This does happen in the real world. For every idiot boss who thinks his folks want a bobblehead of him, there are many good bosses who know how to survive rough times.

      My company is now doing better and 2003 should be a great improvement.

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    40. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yeah, I'm sure the childless, single people with no responsibilities will chime in with suggestions about better managing finances...but you folks are obviously more readily able to absorb unforseeable hits on your pocketbook because you aren't paying for daycare. health insurance, etc.

      That's a very good point and, on behalf of all the childless, single people, I would like to take this time to personally apologize to you and yours for forcing you to get married and have children. Sorry about that. It seemed like a good idea at the time.

    41. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by captainktainer · · Score: 1

      Uh-huh... and exactly what fantasy world do you live in? California has unusually good labor laws- same with New York. In the rest of the country employers can and will fire you for any pretext whatsoever. Ever tried working in Florida? There is no guarantee that you will be working from one day to the next; employers are free to fire you for any reason. Labor laws elsewhere really aren't much better.

      If you want to demand overtime, they'll gladly pay it. And then gladly shove your ass out the door.

    42. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by FCAdcock · · Score: 1
      Have you thought of just taking the money which would go twards a party and handing that money over to your employees? Or at least giving them the option of the two?

      Personaly, I think that by taking them all in (either ay once, or seperate, I don't think if would really matter), and telling them that times are tough, and that the company cannot afford to give both bonuses and have a party, so they can all vote on which to have.
      A: X ammount of money spent on a christmas party
      B: Their share of the money which would have been spent on the party given as a bonus.

      Personally, I think I'd probably leave the room with a smile on my face if my boss actually gave me the option, and was honest with me no matter what the outcome of the vote was.

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    43. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by cduffy · · Score: 2

      No, California's labor laws suck (for IT workers). I just moved to Texas and am much happier here.

      In California, IT folks are "exempt" employees; the laws requiring overtime to be paid don't apply (and we can still be fired for no reason -- at least if our employers use an "at will" contract, which all mine did). In Texas no such exemption applies -- and they have mandatory extra pay for holidays and weekends, and all these requirements even apply to contractors.

    44. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Owners / senior management of the company I work for do NOT get paid ANYTHING until we actually make more money than we spend. And THEY decided so. Business has been good so I guess they'll get paid at least something this year though :)

      Of the few parties that we have had this year we haven't had one yet where we monkeys had to pay for the food or drinks or anything else for that matter.

      Oh yeah, I got 10% raise a couple of months ago.

    45. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Zeinfeld · · Score: 2
      What did the CEO do that is so special that it creates his/her expectation of 6-figure salaries with use of company assets and a golden parachute regardless of the time of year

      Where are you working? It is hardly unusual for a programmer to be paid over a hundred K.

      Oh you meant seven figures perhaps???

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    46. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by mstyne · · Score: 1

      That was a work of art.

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    47. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Best_Username_Ever · · Score: 1

      Why should a CEO be paid in the millions for what he does

      Because talented "C level" management is short in supply and in great demand. I think the talented CEO's should be paid a lot more than most of the actors and musicians that make millions. Even a poorly performing company might not reflect badly on the CEO. Perhaps the organisation is restructuring for long term goals, or their market is performing very badly and profits are unachievable. Sometimes a CEO that can help a company weather the storm is very important.

      What would be good is to see bad CEO's foiled in their attempts to loot companies when they bail out. Perhaps CEO's should have their performance independantly reviewed before they can award themselves significant bonuses.

    48. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      d00d, lemme tell you that most Professionals in CAli waive their right to CA laws. CA laws only apply to Unskilled labor, such as unskilled IT, trashmen, etc.

      funny, I have IT friends in Cali who are considered professionals.... you must be L33T?

    49. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the bobble head was a stupid and bad move. Utterly. Then again, this is why I refuse to work for corporations or large private companies.

      But your explanation of getting more towards the end of the year because of an increase in work--that's the point of a SALARY which you agreed to when you took the job. You probably weren't complaining in February or on those "slow" workdays. If you want to get by the hour, get a job as such.

      I like your point that it's a nice surprise to get a valued Xmas bonus or gift, but not to expect one. But, again, personally, I'd rather work for a company that invests their Xmas "bonus" crap into the 401ks of their employees. Or hires more people that were unemployed before. Yada yada.

    50. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot of salaried people work a whole helluva lot of overtime, especially towards the end of the year. They don't get overtime or anything for this because it's just 'part of their job'.

      Seriously? Don't you have laws against that sort of exploitation? What happened to the unions over there?

    51. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is more a comment on your comments, not the bobblehead story. I think it was utterly idiotic for them to give out bobbleheads.

      But the reasons you mention are THE reasons why I run a company that has and continues to put more and more emphasis on automation. I no longer want workers. Seriously. Workers whine. They make excuses. They bitch when *I* start a company, put in a couple years of 80-100 hour weeks working alone, never take a vacation, and then when I take them on, they bitch they should be earning $30/hour instead of their $20 or point to the Mercedes as the reason they "have low salaries".

      It's my company. I started it. I still put in 70 hour weeks. I hired because I thought I was doing the area some good with increasing jobs. $40,000 a year to hire or the trouble and maintenance in the equipment that does something similar, I went for the hire. Boy was I wrong. What a freakin pain in the ass employees are. I was heavy into automation before, but had a handful of easy, well-paying jobs that workers just continue to fuq up.

      You put them first? Good for you. Maybe your business depends on people to handle things. Mine is very simple and happens not to need to. (Simple, damn good product, little customer service needed--I am the customer service.)

      Don't need the grief, don't need to pay their retirement, or benefits, don't need the excuses, don't need to hire yet another person to hire (HR department) or handle the wages and taxes (accountants).

      And if you read the above as being "about the money", you misunderstand. Workers have tremendous "overhead" beyond money. Time. Hassle. The wages are not the problem--it's the time messing with their needs so much so that you are spending half your time worrying about worker related issues than the company. But, again, maybe you're company is based on the need for workers; mine happens not to be.

      I get pissed off when people compare their salary to a CEOs. Or a CEO touting how great they are to their workers (which seems largely similar to the $65 million/year CEO). I am not a CEO per se, but a business owner. But yeah, maybe the CEOs shouldn't be earning that. I'd rather see teachers earn that. But then I don't hear people bitch as much about teen pop stars. I see my workers spend their money on CDs and DVDs. Watch sports fanatically. Most of sports stars don't deserve their salaries. Doctors, scientists, trial lawyers, many do not deserve the outlandish sums of money (measured in 10s of millions a year, and if you think that's incorrect, you need to look into the top tiers of those professions) but are, admittedly, more deserving.

      And yet what do the workers complain about the most? Their boss. How much their boss makes. What their boss has. How much work they shoulder (I did their job and more previously when I started up; I know the work that it entails.). What crap.

      You want to give to your workers, good for you. It's probably unlikely you're going to auction off your car to keep an employee. You say take a pay cut so workers don't have to. Good for you. Odd that it wasn't take a pay cut so your workers get paid for. Even you have limits. Easily arguably better limits and criteria, but still limits.

      Me, I'm finishing up the automated packer. Investment? $20,000. Even the electric company in my area is getting rid of workers through automation--no more meter readers. It's all automated though the lines. Don't have to worry about wages/salaries or pensions. And that cost them $165 million, which they feel they are going to recoup in less than 20 years.

      You want more, good. But don't get pissed at me because I want something fair or the same, arguably by standards and time and sweat investment than you. Meanwhile, you accept the tiering and excessive incomes of Brittany, Justin, or Shaq, then bitch about your boss, you're a hypocrite.

    52. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by The+Phantom+Buffalo · · Score: 1

      Ok, Did you ever stop to think that maybe some CEO's might have had to work to get where they are? I really doubt that every one of them just woke up one morning and was magically made CEO of a company.
      Granted, 6 figures might be a little excessive, but I really don't know what a CEO does. Do you? Might the problem be that you're a little jealous of those that have made something of themselves, while you're living your pathetic little life. How about instead of sitting around whining on Slashdot, try doing something to make life better for yourself?
      Believe it or not, We childless single people are paying for health insurance, etc. Plus we don't get those cool tax write-offs you get, just because you decided to have children.

    53. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're naive.

      The CEO position is not a job really. It's a tier. It's a status symbol. It's a title.

      It has NOTHING to do with sweat equity, the harder you work, the more you get paid. It's about perceived worth. What connections you have. Who you can get to do what they do. What friends you have.

      Remove the CEO, and you'll find most companies will struggle, if not fold. It's been shown. A lot. Fortune 500 companies struggle during CEO transitions. It's far better to retain a CEO than do a search.

      As to you being childish, I bet you are. I bet nearly any traditional worker is here on /. bitching about salary inequities and work discrepancies had that CEO position, WOULD NOT BE WORKING. They'd have taken the $65 million, kept over 50% of it after taxes, and RETIRED or blown it.

      That's the difference between you and the CEO. Not substantial. And not of much substance. But if you swapped worker and CEO positions, the CEO would still get his work done, and the worker would cause the company to fail.

      That's why he earned an 8 figure income last year, and you a 6 figure. And frankly, I bet the $65 million/year CEO created or retained more jobs in one year than a basketbar star does for a professional sports organization.

    54. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by schulzdogg · · Score: 2

      Um, even if you are salaried, you are required to be paid for overtime. There have been many lawsuits because of this, and in all the ones I have heard of the employees won (in CA anyways)

      True indeed. I am the lucky benificiary of such a lawsuit. About 6 months ago I got switched from salaried to hourly (the whole IT department did). It's wonderful.

      I'm in San Diego, CA

    55. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by MrScience · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Ah, yes. Three years ago I was working in Hollywood as a Sr. Developer/Analyst. I had a contract for around $70/hour, and then the government messed up. That summer, all IT workers were no longer exempt... overtime was required to be paid. And, since we were working more than 80-hours a week, we were actually getting double time for a bit.

      Of course, they ended up working out a contract where we only changed up to time-and-a-half, so a few weeks I was told to shift hours around, but it was still pretty nice. And after a few months, emergency legislation was passed to put things back to "normal."

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    56. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by The+AtomicPunk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The real problem to married couples with children isn't salaries, it's taxes.

      Nowadays, the tax rate is so oppressive one person has to work just to pay the tax burden.

      And yet, like the sheep that we are, we will continue voting for republicrats or demopublicans that'll just keep sticking it to us.

    57. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What does it matter what a person has earned previously? If you work, you should get paid. Unless he's a charity worker of some kind, that's how the system works.

    58. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well fuck, that was insightful. Mod parent up + 1 Fuckin Hippie Jerk-off

    59. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 1

      thats hollywood for you...man if there was any othe rplace on earth that was as corrupt as the Cali assembly....oy.

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    60. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by shirai · · Score: 1

      Actually, a bobblehead IS good value to the employee. You don't need a substitute pointy-haired manager doll to beat up on. You get the ACTUAL IMAGE of your CEO. I can't see how this could be anything other than a well deserved stress reliever.

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    61. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by shirai · · Score: 1

      I agree.

      I own an Internet company that is just about to make profit but I have been taking NO WAGE for the last 2 years. I'm completely content on doing this as the upside on this project is huge at which time I will expect to be remunerated well. This would be my second Internet success.

      In the meantime, we are probably going to hit our second sales goal and I'm going to give $1000 IKEA shopping sprees to all my employees when we do. I've already given out 27" televisions earlier this year. I conversely hope my employees respect the sacrifices I've made.

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    62. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 1

      who the hell thinks there should not be a CEO? that is just dumb to not have a guy who makes the tough decisions....BUT, it is also dumb for a CEO to get compensated 40 times that of what his workers get....it is also dumb to put a stock freaze on the emploies and not on yourself so you can retain as much wealth as possable at your employees' expence and future after you anounce bad news. what america needs is a refocus....

      yes CEOs are importent, and yes there is competition, but just like salary caps in pro sports, I see nothing wrong with capping the maximum imcome a CEO can make if te company does business in the US, I also see no problem with makeing it illegal to put stock freezes on your workers while keeping your own stocks liquid.

      simple protections for the working shmoe that can go a long way.

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    63. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "What did the CEO do that is so special that it creates his/her expectation of 6-figure salaries with use of company assets and a golden parachute regardless of the time of year?"

      Probably, a few things:

      1. Went to a business school (Stanford, Harvard MBA?)
      2. Succeeded in business.
      3. Invested a significant amount of his own money in this company, taking a risk.

    64. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by shirai · · Score: 1

      I disagree with this statement on its general view towards the value of CEOs. Firstly, I am NOT a 6-figure salaried CEO but I fully expect to be.

      Just as an example, you probably know the difference in values employees can make. I would rather have 1 GREAT programmer (for example) than 10 average ones. As a programmer also, I've been offered in the area of half a million dollars for a few months work and this would be considered GOOD VALUE because it would take the hiring company an equivalent 6-9 months with several programmers to do a most likely inferior job.

      In the same, way, I've made decisions as CEO that have moved my company towards the black that nobody in the company could see. Some of these decisions were radical and met with lots of raised eyebrows (including completely changing the direction of the company in key areas) but have moved us towards success.

      I expect this to be a $100 million company in the next few years and it is very likely these decisions made this possible. Now, I'm not trying to tout my own horn on what I think I did for this company. I think everybody played a part too. But I ask you this, if I wasn't here, the company may very well have gone bankrupt. Now, how much is THAT worth? I'm not saying all CEOs are worth this (clearly some are not), but your question is "What did the CEO do that is so special that it creates his/her expectation of 6-figure salaries?" In some cases, you may never know. That doesn't mean that they aren't worth it. This is why investors are willing to pay for great CEOs.

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    65. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, so then if you lose your job its fuck you, you should have had a crystal ball? Get a fucking brain or shut the fuck up. Hopefully your wife will see what a piece of shit you are, divorce you, and skip across the country with full custody rights to your kid.

    66. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      In Japan, CEO's also get paid about an average of 1/4 what CEO's do in the states. They also have to deal in the same global market and similar outputs, and still they have comparable performance levels to US corporations. Maybe stock holders should buck the status quo and force CEO's to take a paycut?

    67. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The decision to have kids was all yours. Live with it and quit whining. If it wasnt your decision, live with it, and quit whining.

    68. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by sowellfan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I know the at-will thing bothers some people, but I don't see why the employee should have rights that the employer doesn't have. I figure that employment is a mutual agreement between two parties, wherein one works in return for compensation as worked out between the parties. When one party doesn't like it, they *should* be free to end the agreement. I haven't seen anyone advocate that an employee shouldn't be allowed to quit except for a "good reason", so I figure the employer should be able to end the agreement for the same reasons. Many folks on /. have probably quit jobs because they thought their boss was a jerk, so why can't a boss fire you because he thinks you're a jerk?

    69. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1.) Full-time here in the US means 40 hours or less. I am pretty sure you cannot legally be fired based just on not going above and beyond the call of duty. So it is a person's choice to go beyond full-time. I don't see how one can expect to be compensated for that. Sure it would be the right thing to do, but come on, Corporate America being generous?

      2.) I totally agree.

      Finally, back to the original post...
      I would be insulted were I to be in the poster's situation (it does disgust me). A bobble head doll of the CEO? I think that is a poor managerial attempt at humor, and an even poorer decision to actually go through with giving them as gifts. I would suggest the original poster voice being offended and request an apology to the employees.

    70. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by sowellfan · · Score: 1

      I don't think that the CEO:worker salary ratio accurately indicates their relative worth, but at the same time, I know that there is something that makes a good CEO worth lots of money.

      I'm reminded of when Ben & Jerry's ice cream was on a search for a CEO, as the company had outgrown the management skills of Ben & Jerry, or whoever they had running it. They originally had ideas about some 10:1 CEO:line worker salary ratio, or something along those lines (since they were a "socially responsible" hippy company), but that idea went out the window as they searched for truly competent people. I am not sure of the salary for the guy they ended up hiring, but it was a *lot* more than they originally thought was proper, because when they looked for people with the skill set they wanted, the people they found wanted a lot more money than they had conceived.

      Bottom line: In capitalism, relative worth and salary don't correlate on a linear scale. It's not *fair*, but that's the way capitalism works (and even though it is unfair, I think it is the best system). Remember also that this doesn't only apply for comparisons between CEO's and workers, it also applies to comparisons between we as engineers/programmers/techies and other less-skilled people. Is a programmer at $80k/year really worth four times as much as a trash man at $20k/year? No, but we accept it (or, at least, most of us accept it, especially since the trash man can go to college and better himself).

    71. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by thedji · · Score: 1

      A 20% cut of my CEO's wages would be equivalent to almost 5 times my personal salary. I think it's not only good for employee's general happiness and executive respect, but it's also better for accounting and public opinion when the CEO loses a small(ish) fraction of his/her salary.

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    72. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      while your initial points have some merit, your final paragraph is nonsensical. but with a few minor edits it can be forged into a coherent argument. for society's benefit, i've paraphrased your final paragraph, as it should have been written:

      Yeah, I'm sure the childless, single people with no responsibilities, who realistically assessed their financial ability to raise a family before jumping into the endeavor, and who did not go ahead and have children that they can ill afford except under unrealistic financial assumptions (world without layoffs, etc) will chime in with suggestions about better managing finances...but you folks are obviously more readily able to absorb unforseeable hits on your pocketbook because you aren't paying for daycare, health insurance, etc. of course, that ability to absorb the financial hits has nothing to do with what these people should be paid in a society that has taken some (however modest) steps toward being Capitalist (such as our own). obviously, i realize that having children is a lifestyle choice that, like all choices, should be available only to those who can support the consequent expense. Oh, my bleeding heart...

      so, to summarize, you (and everyone else) are not entitled to any preferential financial treatment because of your kids. the preferential treatment you get is that wonderful feeling that comes with being a parent, whatever that is.

      now if you'll excuse me, my latte is getting cold.

    73. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Rande · · Score: 1

      I think all of my contracts have stated that either side can cancel by giving a months notice.
      However Govt regulations can override certain aspects in that they can't fire you because you are black/asian/female/blind/incompetent...

      In certain European countries both sides must give 3 months notice, which makes changing jobs/hiring a little trickier.

    74. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by arglesnaf · · Score: 1

      I didn't know MBA's read slashdot!

      (Just joking, working on one myself at night)

    75. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Duds · · Score: 1

      2.) There are some companies who are doing better now-a-days (like mine) than they were a year ago. This is often a result of hard workers within the company. Reward us.

      Not to flamebait, but if your company loses money next year will you be writing a cheque back to them? :)

    76. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by mjolnir_ · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ben & Jerry's ice cream in Vermont used to subscribe to a version of the same idea: the highest-paid employee could make no more than 7x the salary of the lowest-paid.

      Sadly they discontinued this practice a few years ago.

    77. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by ArsonSmith · · Score: 2

      Most likly. Maybe not in the form of a check but in the form of much lower if any raises, lesser benifites, removal of spell checker, etc... with the possibility of even a direct pay cut.

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    78. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by artemis67 · · Score: 2

      Nowadays, the tax rate is so oppressive one person has to work just to pay the tax burden.

      And yet, like the sheep that we are, we will continue voting for republicrats or demopublicans that'll just keep sticking it to us.


      How can you say you are for tax cuts and against the Republicans, who are cutting taxes? Maybe it's not happening as fast or as much as we'd all like, but they are getting it done.

    79. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 2

      The bobble-headed doll is probably not the product of the CEO, but the product of someone thinking that this is a good way to kiss management butt.

      If the Christmas party was paid for by the company, and it wasn't manditory, then they didn't just get a bobble-head of the CEO.

      Someone I know at a temp agency last year actually got a letter for Christmas; "For your Christmas bonus, we have made a charitable donation in your name... " (No mention of the tax writeoff).

      You don't do that to people who scrimp and save to pay their bills. Even $50 would make a difference.

    80. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice post. Thank you for sharing your thoughts this holiday season.
      While I can sympathize with people trying to raise a family and having difficult financial times, there are those (you know who you are!) whose posts make it clear that they are such idiots as to be undeserving of any sympathy.
      I didn't need a crystal ball to know when to have kids (answer: not yet!). I just needed, and have, a brain in my head and a belief that improving myself is the best way to avoid hard financial times (even better than bitching on the internet).
      So while I'm thinking, learning, and improving, you're doubtless sitting at home in your trailor park, watching old Dukes of Hazzard reruns and eating Cheez Whiz straight from the jar. If you're having a hard financial time, maybe it's not society's fault, but rather because you're a semi-literate redneck who can't count to eleven with his pants up, and whose greatest achievement in life thus far is beating the high score on Donkey Kong.

    81. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Either way, the problem is solved!

    82. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by tvar · · Score: 1

      When I was a co-op at Cisco Systems, CEO John Chambers lowered his salary essentially 100%. I thought that was pretty cool.

    83. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd lower my salery to $1 too if I had millions in the bank and owned millions of stock shares.

      No big deal, in the long run if the company does better so does he.

    84. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ans of course those with significant family responsabilities were forcibly impressed into assuming them... tragically drafted away from carefree youth in paltry exchange for only the closest approximation to immortality presently known to humankind...

    85. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Since I didn't stick your dick into your wife, don't cry to me about how expensive it is to have a kid. You should have thought about that before you porked her. It's bad enough I have to pay thousands in taxes every year to educate other people's kids, I shouldn't also have to listen to them bitch that kids cost money.

      Next time, get a goldfish. They're cheap.

    86. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You forgot the big one:

      4. Applied for, and got the job.

      Feel free to apply for a CEO position any time you like. Odds are you won't get it. Anyone who can get it (and it doesn't matter how) is entitled to the benefits (6-figure salaries).

    87. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by saintlupus · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm sure the childless, single people with no responsibilities will chime in with suggestions about better managing finances...

      Speaking for the single and childless, go fuck yourself. I'm already getting boned when all of my coworkers run home for family care days and shit and leave us younger folk to handle things at work.

      Sorry, you hit a nerve. Not that anyone's still reading this thread anyway.

      --saint

    88. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by crimson30 · · Score: 0

      I don't know about the civilian sector, but in the military, it pays to be married. Married members get extra money to support their families, are less likely to be deployed, are less likely to be tasked to work during holidays and get a free ticket out of living in the damn barracks/dorms and eating at the chow hall. And even with the extra money, they still find room to complain about living from paycheck to paycheck, ignoring the fact that they just had to have the latest sports car or SUV (which they need for the family, of course). And even though they're dirt broke, they still manage to have enough for a pack or two a day and plenty of booze for the night. Quite frankly, I'm sick of military members with families griping about money... with sound financial planning, no military member should have a problem, even if you're an E-1.

    89. Re:Christmas bonus - why? by lhbtubajon · · Score: 1

      That's true, but it ignores the fact that the high-level execs make millions in stock options and stock grants, not to mention other non-salary compensations like perquisites, vacations, and "thank-yous" from the board.

      So, yes. A janitor at B&Js makes $50k a year while the CEO made $350k....plus millions on the side.

  7. If we're lucky... by jhughes · · Score: 5, Funny

    We wont get laid off

    1. Re:If we're lucky... by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 2, Funny

      and if we're REALLY lucky, we get laid by the hottie secretary with the big tits!

      --
      We do not live in the 21st century. We live in the 20 second century.
    2. Re:If we're lucky... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      We wont get laid off

      At our company, the people who got laid off in November still got their Christmas gifts! Talk about class!

      [But the cynic in me thinks that the gifts were bought long in advance, just like the A1K T-Shirts, and it would have been a waste to throw them away...]

    3. Re:If we're lucky... by Stoptional · · Score: 1

      We WILL get laid off.

      --
      Stoptional
    4. Re:If we're lucky... by windex · · Score: 1

      Amen. No one seems to see how fucked up this whole industry is right now.

    5. Re:If we're lucky... by MicroBerto · · Score: 5, Funny

      Son, in times like these, you should be willing to take the secretary with the small tits as well!

      --
      Berto
    6. Re:If we're lucky... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geez, we IT people are so spoiled. We should be glad we have secretaries to fuck at all!

    7. Re:If we're lucky... by itwerx · · Score: 1

      I lick^H^Hke secretaries with small tits. :)
      The ones with no tits, on the other hand, are out of luck...

    8. Re:If we're lucky... by G27+Radio · · Score: 3, Interesting

      We wont get laid off

      Seriously, I'm just happy to have a steady paycheck coming in, even though I'm only making 33% of what I was making two years ago. Also, I'm happy to be back working at an IT job and not working in a liquor store (that was a hellish six months I spent earlier this year.)

      Considering that we're a start up company and I'm the only one that actually works full-time for the company I didn't really even expect a bonus -- the owner isn't even collecting a salary yet.

      However, my boss, cool guy that he is, used his frequent flier miles to get me tickets to fly home for Christmas. Easily the best Christmas bonus I've received in 10+ years working in IT.

      I suppose the least I could do for him is plug our company on Slashdot. For webhosting and online project management check us out. Ugh, that sounds cheesy. Tis the season I suppose.

    9. Re:If we're lucky... by EverDense · · Score: 2

      Dude! I hate to tell you this, but those are MEN.

      --
      http://jesus.everdense.com/
    10. Re:If we're lucky... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Son, in times like these, you should be willing to take the secretary with the small tits as well!

      Would somebody please mod this down for sexism? I'd give it a '-2, offsensive'.

    11. Re:If we're lucky... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would somebody please mod this down for sexism? I'd give it a '-2, offsensive'

      The world isn't perfect, deal with it. Not everyone is PC, nor should they have to be.

  8. I got cool stuff. by danbeck · · Score: 0

    I got a Sony Clie. Beat that! =)

    1. Re:I got cool stuff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I got a Sony Clie. Beat that! =)

      q: What is my kid getting for christmas this year?
      a: Your Sony Clie!

  9. Regiving by n3rd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Paint on some cuts, bruises and put a bunch of blood around the neck like he was decapitated. Then give it back to him.

    Maybe he'll get the message then.

    1. Re:Regiving by Kashif+Shaikh · · Score: 2

      Paint on some cuts, bruises and put a bunch of blood around the neck like he was decapitated.

      Only if 'voodoo dolls' were true...

    2. Re:Regiving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My idea is to bury it neck deep in human feces, put it in an air-tight container, and mail it to him. Attach a note that says "Given in the spirit it was recieved."

      Just be aware that if you get caught, you'll get fired.

    3. Re:Regiving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      My idea is to bury it neck deep in human feces, put it in an air-tight container, and mail it to him. Attach a note that says "Given in the spirit it was recieved."

      Just be aware that if you get caught, you'll get fired.

      And be sure not to use your own shit. DNA analysis are cheap these days...

    4. Re:Regiving by Peterus7 · · Score: 1
      I'd just give it to my kids along with an entire army men playset. Say it's the prisoner of war.

      That, or, the dog's been wanting a new chew toy...

    5. Re:Regiving by FCAdcock · · Score: 1

      There isn't DNA in feces. Feces is waste product of what you eat, nothing is added.

      --
      --Forest C. Adcock--
    6. Re:Regiving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remove the head. Mail the body back. Anonymously and totally without content. Let "the media be the message".

      Use an ordinary box (recycle something from behind the gas station). Give a wino a qt of Cheap-o Red to address it. Don't lick the stamp and wear gloves the whole time. You can bet the thing will be checked.

    7. Re:Regiving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a) There IS DNA in feces - maybe not YOUR DNA, but unless you eat exclusively "edible oil products" there's probably lots of animal and vegetable in your fecal matter.

      b) During the process of eliminating the feces from your body, some of your cells (containg YOUR DNA) will be carried along with it. These could potentially be used to identify you.

  10. Get some pins by nzyank · · Score: 1

    ..they make good voodoo dolls. fill it with pins and leave it in front of the guy's door. Maybe he'll get a clue.

  11. I think I made out fairly well.. by Planetes · · Score: 2, Informative

    My company is a small company (20+ employees) but we all got $500 christmas bonuses and our individual performance bonus for the year (mine was $500). Made for a nice addition. It helped me buy my books for the spring semester. (Engineering books can be very expensive)

    Daniel
    Aerospace Engineering major
    University of Central Florida - Orlando

    --
    Planetes
    "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promo Ad
    "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitl
    1. Re:I think I made out fairly well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just started at my new job a week ago, and they gave me a $200 bonus! I couldn't believe it.

      tr33_hu99er

    2. Re:I think I made out fairly well.. by Cadre · · Score: 2

      I work for a small company too. Probably around 50 employees. Everyone gets a very sizable christmas bonus (even if they're new employees). The christmas party was great. Fully stocked open bar and very nice door prizes (one of them was five hundred dollars, cash). It's nice to work for a small company (we're in the defense industry so we have the added benefit of being stable too), everyone knows each other and everyone is friendly.

      --
      All editorial writers ever do is come down from the hill after the battle is over and shoot the wounded.
    3. Re:I think I made out fairly well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how do you like flipping burgers?

    4. Re:I think I made out fairly well.. by mookid77 · · Score: 1

      I also work for a small company that has a very nice christmas party with door prizes and a very nice bonus. It's pretty safe to say bobbleheads of the owner will not be given out.

    5. Re:I think I made out fairly well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (In Scott Evil voice) Ass.

    6. Re:I think I made out fairly well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, it's the world's leader in outdoor gps products, but feel free to dog people without having a f#*king clue.

      tr33_hu99er

    7. Re:I think I made out fairly well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That bonus isn't really meaningful when there's nowhere to spend it in the middle of Bumfuck, Kansas, is it?

    8. Re:I think I made out fairly well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Hey, we have a Castle Superstore here too, you know.

      tr33_hu99er

    9. Re:I think I made out fairly well.. by dev11 · · Score: 1

      I am in almost the exact same situation, except a much smaller company, 15+ employees, mainly defense work also. Every year I've gotten a raise substantially higher than cost of living, a nice bonus, and a Christmas dinner party. Starting this year we started profit sharing too, which I will take anyday over stock options. Small companies can really be very cool to work for sometimes. My hours are flexible and the environment is very relaxed, I have never been forced to work over 40 hours a week, although I have several times voluntarally. Salary is not quite as high as I could get elsewhere, but the benefits mentioned above are definately worth it to me.

  12. got nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    zip, nada, zilch, nunca, nil

  13. A bobble head CEO doll? by RealBeanDip · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Gimme a freakin' break!!! I can't imagine what goes through someones head to think that someone else might possibly want a bobble head doll in their likeness!

    --

    You know you're a geek if you've ever replied to a tagline.

    1. Re:A bobble head CEO doll? by KevinIsOwn · · Score: 1

      Well, I beleive if can be summed up with one word: Ego. What would give you a bigger boost to your already inflated ego than handing out bobblehead dolls of yourself? CEO handing out the dolls: for(i=0;i=NUM_EMPLOYEES;i++) { ego++; }

    2. Re:A bobble head CEO doll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      err ... your loop has issues!

      Wow, and I was pissed because we had to pay for valet parking this year. I think you should put that bobble-head doll where your CEO's head is usually parked - right up his ass.

  14. jack shit by chunkwhite86 · · Score: 1

    I got nothing from my company for the holidays except a pink slip. They probably needed to give the damn CEO a few extra million as a holiday bonus. I'm so glad that the loss of my job could help in reaching that goal.

    greedy fucks.

    --
    I'd rather be a conservative nutjob than a liberal with no nuts and no job.
    1. Re:jack shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      i actually started to care, then i saw the rush limbaugh sig.

    2. Re:jack shit by CashCarSTAR · · Score: 1

      The funny thing is that Rush would call him commie swine for what he posted.

      Just pointing it out.

    3. Re:jack shit by chunkwhite86 · · Score: 1

      Although he certainly makes some excellent arguments and I agree with much of what he says - I never said I agree with everything Rush has to say.

      I listen to him just as you or I read /. comments... There's informative and insightful stuff that I agree with - and there's also stupid blather that I disagree with.

      --
      I'd rather be a conservative nutjob than a liberal with no nuts and no job.
  15. What I got by Joe+Jordan · · Score: 5, Funny

    . So... What did you get from your Company for Christmas?

    the shaft.

    1. Re:What I got by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i got a raise!

      work have never been better.

    2. Re:What I got by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then who got the Big Bonus?

    3. Re:What I got by seanadams.com · · Score: 2

      the shaft.

      You should ask yourself the precursor to that question: what did my company get from me since last Christmas?

      My employees (founders excepted) received fat cash bonuses this year (roughly 10% of YTD pay), because everyone has worked their asses off and we're selling more because of it.

      Many businesses are failing or barely staying afloat right now. If YOU put in a little bit extra, your company might be able to pay you a little something extra. If you don't work for the kind of company that rewards extra effort, you should start looking for another job. Oh, the job market's tough you say? Hope you saved a little bit since the boom...

      So why don't you sign off of slashdot, and go put in some overtime for your employer if you really want that bonus?

    4. Re:What I got by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      i got a raise!

      work have never been better.
      man, i need a job on the slashdot editorial staff too.
    5. Re:What I got by robinthecandystore · · Score: 1
      > You should ask yourself the precursor to that question: what did my company get from me since last Christmas?

      11-15 hours a day, sometimes 6 days a week :-)

      What I got was a box of chocolates, a (reasonable) bottle of wine and a Christmas card that said thanks from the management team. It may not sound like much, but it's more then I got from the last place I worked. I must admit that it brought a smile to my face! Nice to see even though everyone's going through tough times...

    6. Re:What I got by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got the same thing I got last Christmas: a pink slip....

    7. Re:What I got by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      No offense Sean, but I work for you, and you are leaving out the critical detail of what our YTD pay has been!!!

      That and the fact that this will pretty much be the last gravy train (ha!) year for SD. I mean fuck, we're charging $249 for a fluorescent display, a 10Mbps Ethernet transceiver, some perl scripts, and commodity audio chips. How long do you think we've got until a would-be Turtle Beach prices us out of our own market? And I was just getting to like these new offices.

    8. Re:What I got by Frymaster · · Score: 2
      what did my company get from me since last Christmas?


      everything. without people to actually do the work, the company has nothing.

    9. Re:What I got by nentwined · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      that's funny -- I got my christmas bonus six months early! :/

      --
      heaven
    10. Re:What I got by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude (or dudette), get out of there. If you're working for a company whose only product is that slimp3 thing, they publish all the components and specs on their web site, and expect people to pay that much for it? Give me a weekend, a Radio Shack, and a soldering iron and I'll make one for ya, that plays more than mp3, and looks cooler. Might want to polish up the ol' resume...

    11. Re:What I got by NotAnotherReboot · · Score: 2

      If the URL in your profile is for the company you used to work for, I can see why you got laid off. "Ignite Software is dedicated to bringing you the best Add-on software available for America Online and AOL Instant Messenger." Better yet- they should lay off the whole company.

    12. Re:What I got by Darth_Burrito · · Score: 2

      I was told to work harder so another department's manager would get a bonus. How's that for insentive?

    13. Re:What I got by rizzo420 · · Score: 1

      you wanna hire someone who's unemployed??? seems like a good company to work for even though i have no idea what you do....

      --
      please me, have no regrets.
    14. Re:What I got by seanadams.com · · Score: 2

      No offense Sean, but I work for you

      A cute troll, and I'm sure that many slashdot readers would believe that you actually do work for "SD". However, it's obvious to me that you don't, because we have only four employees right now and I know their writing styles very well. Nobody has ever referred to the company as SD, it's always SDI. There are other obvious giveaways in your post, which includes only public information that anyone could pull from our web site, but I won't waste my time listing them.

      At any rate, I'm flattered that you're so interested in the SliMP3 to have researched it in such depth. Why don't you try one, no-risk, and then maybe you'll change your mind about whether it's a worthwhile product? If you still think it sucks, I'll give you your money back, and then you can go bashing my company on slashdot with a little more credibility. Until then, it's no sweat off my bean bag as long as we have thousands of satisfied customers.

    15. Re:What I got by Alizarin+Erythrosin · · Score: 1

      This is funny, yet sad at the same time

      --
      There are only 10 kinds of people in this world... those who understand binary and those who don't
    16. Re:What I got by KidSock · · Score: 2

      This is such a crock. I don't believe this crap for a second. Mod this guy down.

    17. Re:What I got by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      having worked for the insensitive bastards myself, it's quite believable.

      they booted me out right before christmas, which was nice.

      still, at least those stock options i lost turned out to be completely worthless.
      option to buy at 50 euros... *bursts into giggling fits*

    18. Re:What I got by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On DVD or VHS?

    19. Re:What I got by ENOENT · · Score: 2
      If YOU put in a little bit extra, your company might be able to pay you a little something extra.

      +1 funny.

      Yeah, that's really good. If YOU work a little harder on the ill-conceived project that marketing has convinced the CEO to ram down your throat, work so hard that the chaotic mess of conflicting requirements is somehow turned into a real functioning product, your company WOULD be able to pay you a big bonus. Unfortunately, since marketing was reorganized in the interim, the whole COMPLETED project was put in the can. Bye bye, last year's entire work output.

      --
      That's "Mr. Soulless Automaton" to you, Bub.
    20. Re:What I got by AntiTuX · · Score: 2

      Don't believe it? How about you ask dawn endico of mozilla.org. She got shitcanned the same time I did.

  16. you have a job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I couldn't give a flying fuck about any gift, just having a job would be fine for me.

    1. Re:you have a job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But i'd imagine if one of your friends gave you a bobble-head doll of Larry Ellison, you'd still consider that a pretty shitty gift, wouldn't you?

  17. Loadsa money! :) by grumwsmith · · Score: 0

    I got loads of money from my company for working really hard and achieving so much.

    You should try it sometime.. :)

  18. nothing by unterderbrucke · · Score: 1

    I don't work, sucker!

    1. Re:nothing by Cheesy+Fool · · Score: 0

      I want to be like you when I grow up.

      --

      Hail to the king, baby!
  19. I got a quarter bag... by NineNine · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... and a new "tobacco water pipe". Of course, I am the boss. I just hope that I don't decide to start randomly drug testing myself.

    1. Re:I got a quarter bag... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      Just wanted to thank you. Yesterday I accidentally hit a goatse.cx link, and you site helped me forget that unfortunate experience.

      Posting anonymously to not scare away my friends =P

    2. Re:I got a quarter bag... by !Xabbu · · Score: 1

      I've got me a nice glass piece coming myself... plus a little slap and tickle with the boss... granted.. she's my wife and I'm also the boss. Isn't working for yourself wonderful at times? :)

      --

      - Jimbob
    3. Re:I got a quarter bag... by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 1, Troll

      You mean that vision of goatse.cx wasnt enough all hot anal action for you?

      Goatse.cx should be enough anal action for anyone for a *lifetime*

    4. Re:I got a quarter bag... by netsharc · · Score: 2

      So that's how you got to your position, by sleeping with the boss.

      --
      What time is it/will be over there? Check with my iPhone app!
    5. Re:I got a quarter bag... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Man, do I wish I worked for -your- company..

    6. Re:I got a quarter bag... by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      absolutely hilarious har har har... i still wish there was a way to post in 0karma without posting as ac

      --
      world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
    7. Re:I got a quarter bag... by dirtmerchant · · Score: 1

      Are you hiring? I'll work cheap.

    8. Re:I got a quarter bag... by FCAdcock · · Score: 1

      And which position would that be?

      --
      --Forest C. Adcock--
    9. Re:I got a quarter bag... by NineNine · · Score: 2

      I *am* hiring... And actually one of the perks working for me is that I only randomly drug test myself. None of my employees. What they ingest is their business, not me. Hell, maybe I should just quit drug testing myself ;)

      I'ev got a great boss. My boss just took me out for a shitload of drinks, and it was on him! hehehe

      I'll *never* work for anyone else again. Thank fucking christ.

    10. Re:I got a quarter bag... by Tripster · · Score: 1

      Lucky bastard! I just got a 1/2 ounce and no new pipe this year, had to clean the old one!

      This should help my yearly xmas vacation which I feel should extend from around today until around sometime in January.

      Being your own boss is great :)

    11. Re:I got a quarter bag... by plugger · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't worry about random drug tests, you'll probably forget to do them.

  20. We got laid off... by motorsabbath · · Score: 1

    ... as of some time in January. Oh well, some time off...

    --
    The heat from below can burn your eyes out
  21. That BITES by nbvb · · Score: 3, Informative

    You know, it would've been better if they had given you nothing at all.

    Really. Suctitiude.

    What did we get for Christmas? Nothing. The company decided to host the annual "Holiday Party" (It's not a Christmas party, let's not be offensive!) in the company cafeteria.

    Feels like I'm back in high school .... I wouldn't go to that if they paid me for it.

    Instead, one of my vendors (a Sun reseller) is taking us out on a cruise around Manhattan island. Now *THAT'S* nice!

    And bonuses? We don't get holiday bonuses; instead we get "merit-based" bonuses at the end of the 1st quarter, based on our performance last year. My target is 10% of my salary, but my bonus typically ranges in the 5-6% range -- nobody ever gets their full target percentage. That wouldn't be fair to the bell curve!

    So I can't really complain. Sure, they went cheap on the holiday party, but my Sun sales rep & friends are the folks I want to have a few drinks with anyway! At least I'm still employed, and hopefully our 1Q bonuses will be good this year -- we had the best 3rd quarter on record, ever. Added 1.1 million customers ... not shabby :)

    --NBVB

    1. Re:That BITES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      And bonuses? We don't get holiday bonuses; instead we get "merit-based" bonuses at the end of the 1st quarter, based on our performance last year. My target is 10% of my salary, but my bonus typically ranges in the 5-6% range -- nobody ever gets their full target percentage. That wouldn't be fair to the bell curve!

      We have the same sort of arrangement where i work. Being a top employee, i recieve 100% of the bonus. But, the new VP accidently mentioned that some people receive 120% (aka we keep the bonus % lower than it should be, and give people 100% instead of 80%).

      A coworker told me of a previous job. He was rated excellent at everything, but didn't qualify for the top bonus. He asked why, and was told that he would have to lear to walk on water.

    2. Re:That BITES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sun hasn't given bonuses or raises in a few years. Holiday bonus, gift or party? Hah. Don't think so.

      It is better for their bottom line as every year that goes by without giving the employees even minimal raises, the inflation and cost of living increases work their magic. While Sun and other businesses are charging more for their products and services and taking bigger tax cuts due to inflationary change in corporate values, the cost they are spending on employee salary as a whole drops every year. Without raises for multiple years, employees fall behind (three percent inflation over three years means an employee has a salary with ten percent less purchasing power than a few years earlier). However, for the companies, it is a wonderful windfall.

    3. Re:That BITES by marshac · · Score: 1

      What they didn't tell you was that your 10% bonus was gonna be in Flooz enjoy!

    4. Re:That BITES by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

      Instead, one of my vendors (a Sun reseller) is taking us out on a cruise around Manhattan island. Now *THAT'S* nice!

      God, I hate corporate corruption.

      And I'm sure this won't influence buying decisions at all...

    5. Re:That BITES by fifedrum · · Score: 1

      Amen. My former employer (a certain large digital printer manufacturer) was like that, merit based raises bound to your ranking in the department, the department's budget, where you sit in your current pay range, and a bunch of other bullshit in place purely to water down the curve. The most useless waste of cubicle space choked out 5% while the most productive earned 6%. Can't have the most productive and valuable employees feeling all wanted and superior now, can we.

      Of course, two years ago, they pushed the yearly merit raises off a full fsking quarter, dropped bonuses, offered totally worthless stock "options" (Options to buy stock at %300 the current value!) and dropped all funding for parties and most reward programs.

      This year, they gave 3000 people walking papers for Christmas. (on top of the 10k or so during the first parts of the year) Of course, they replaced many of those with people from a failed division.

      I swear I'm going to start a company and treat employees right, we'll have the highest morale of any company. Of course, I have no idea what we would do, but our morale would be high... The stock holders would probably vote in some multibillionaire CEO who would fire everyone of value, close factories, weaken the product line and upgrade the corporate jet.

    6. Re:That BITES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's bullshit. Sun's paid out bonuses every year I've been there. Maybe if you're a janitor or manufacturing or something...

    7. Re:That BITES by nbvb · · Score: 2

      No, actually, it won't influence anything.

      We buy equipment from Sun, HP (both the old HP and Compaq), IBM, Dell, StorageTek, EMC, LSI Logic, Hitachi, Cisco & Alcatel, among others.

      I've got Sun equipment on the floor (Everything from Ultra 1's through E10k's & Starcat's), some HP SuperDomes, a few HP WildFire AlphaClusters, some IBM zSeries mainframes and pSeries Regattas, Dell rackmount Linux servers, STK tape silos, EMC disk (on the mainframe only ... it bites on open systems!), LSI Logic storage, & Hitachi 9960 storage. The network core is Cisco with some Alcatel stuff on the edge (some Cisco too).

      We've got lots of vendors... I just happen to be a primarily Sun sysadmin, so I get invited to the Sun holiday party. All of the above have invited various members of our teams out at some point. :)

      --NBVB

  22. Count yourself lucky... by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 3, Interesting
    that you got anything at all.

    Where I work, I write software for all kinds of stuff, but get about 60p more per hour than when I was at the museum telling customers where the loos were. I have to work late each day next week to save up hours so we can have the afternoon off to go to a pub lunch. That is what we get for christmas. Nothing. Nada. No time off for the christmas lunch (which we are paying for). My dept isn't doing badly, but the others are finding it tough, hence the austerity measures.

    1. Re:Count yourself lucky... by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Personally, I would have preferred nothing at all, and have the money spent on marketing.

      There is at least some small trivial possibility tyhat the extra amount spent on marketing woulf have resulted in a couple of extra sales, and some good word of mouth marketing, which would have resulted in better profitability for the company, and better conditions for the staff.

      Alternatively, they could have spent the money on a lottery ticket per staff member.

    2. Re:Count yourself lucky... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dude - the things I have heard about working in the UK make it sound like working there SUCKS.

      Is it because of the glorious times under Margaret Thatcher or what?

    3. Re:Count yourself lucky... by JewFish · · Score: 1

      60p?

      What is a p, is it a pound or percent?

    4. Re:Count yourself lucky... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pence, you dumb fuck Yank. Think cents is to dollars as pence is to the pound.

    5. Re:Count yourself lucky... by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      I think the guy's point was that the company spending the money on a stupid trinket was a really bad management decision. Paying for their parking would've probably cost something similar, but would've been appreciated.

      Giving something crappy is much worse than giving nothing at all.

    6. Re:Count yourself lucky... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And "pound" is what our George W. does to your Prime Minister's "arse" whenever he feels like it. So shut the hell up, Limey.

    7. Re:Count yourself lucky... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am not British. I am from Thailand, but even I know what the British terms for their currency is. You Yanks, don't know shit about anything but your own backyard.

    8. Re:Count yourself lucky... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, like Maggie's been out of office for, like, over a decade. If there are any current issues then it is more likely to be the fault of (1) the economy just being bad---strangely politicians actually have very little effect on this, (2) Major---at least he is more recent, or (3) Tony Blair---well, you shouldn't overlook the guy who's been in power for the last 5-6 years and had enough of a majority to do basically what he wants.

    9. Re:Count yourself lucky... by robbieduncan · · Score: 2

      It is probably 60 pence of which there are (now) 100 of in a pound.

    10. Re:Count yourself lucky... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Way to generalize!!

  23. Extra work by DeadMoose · · Score: 1

    I got ~60% of my team laid off, so those of us who survived the cuts get to make up for the missing headcount.

  24. HAH! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Welcome to the new world, Neo.

    Right now corporate america really sucks big time. Granted being of those currently employeed. Myself and my co-workers have been screwed over many times by management.

    First stated a year ago that our 2001 bonuses would be delayed to only find out that the 2001 bonuses don't exist and the 2002 bonuses had been pushed off again.

    The way I see it, management knowing about the "economic slow-down" feels that they can screw over the hands and heart behind their business. I mean for the many IT professionals out there, the logic is, where are you gonna go?

    I dunno, but makes me think about going into retail...

    *sigh*

  25. A New Computer!!!!! by jamesgregory · · Score: 3, Funny

    3 of my clients pitched in and got me a new computer! It must have been that overused excuse that 'my computer crashed' and 'that's why the work isn't done yet'. Guess I have been reading too much slashdot ;)

    1. Re:A New Computer!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, why and how are your clients in contact with each other?

    2. Re:A New Computer!!!!! by jamesgregory · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      It's called providing references ;0

  26. I got nothing this year. by GuNgA-DiN · · Score: 1

    Not a damn thing. No bonus. No gifts. Nothing.

    But, I do have a job. So, I guess I got that going for me.

  27. My job :-) by msp0 · · Score: 1

    Well, I got to keep my job after the latest round of lay-offs ... and I'm supposed to be grateful for that!!

  28. I was REALLY LUCKY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:I was REALLY LUCKY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GREAT! Is that you there, Phil?

  29. lol by l33t-gu3lph1t3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    a pink slip, and the second thing i got in the mail was my tuition payment request. Dammit, I could've been a drug dealer for better pay, and hours, and perks...lol...

    --
    ------- "From bored to fanboy in 3.8 asian girls" ----------
    1. Re:lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... except that Colombia downsizes even more certainly than corporate America.

    2. Re:lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dont forget better chicks too

  30. totally surprised.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    ...to get a gamecube from my boss yesterday. he told us not to expect this kind of gift every year, but wanted to really say thanks for taking a risk in joining what is essentially a brand new company.

    1. Re:totally surprised.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think santa will come at my firm this year. But reading this made me smile - lucky you! And Kudos to your boss.

      I'm going to ask for a contract renegotiation for a late christmas present in January. ;-)

    2. Re:totally surprised.... by FCAdcock · · Score: 1

      New at WorldCom?

      --
      --Forest C. Adcock--
  31. Let me guess... by moronga · · Score: 5, Funny

    I found myself the proud recipient of... a bobble head doll of the company CEO!

    You work for Oracle?

    1. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, that's what I got from the Big O.

    2. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the second (or is it 3rd) richest man in the world, and the richest man in california, could have done better. but larry is CHEAP!!! i know, i did time at the emerald city too.

    3. Re:Let me guess... by utherdoul · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I write for a major technology magazine... any oracle employees who would like to vent in print about their cheezy bonus (anonymously, if you'd like) are encouraged to email me at dewalt@cmp.com

      hell, if you work in IT at all and want to vent about your bonus, send me an email.

      </self-interested plea>

    4. Re:Let me guess... by K-Man · · Score: 2

      Great, a doll of Larry where the head goes up and down. Too bad Larry is too busy on his yacht to give those cash bonuses he was planning.

      I used to be a very motivated Oracle developer. Then I saw Larry speak in person, and I lost interest somehow.

      --
      ---- "If we have to go on with these damned quantum jumps, then I'm sorry that I ever got involved" - Erwin Schrodinger
  32. You got a party?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    My company sends me to the arctic each year for a ~month and we dont' get a party after our return or at the end of the year. While Greeland might be fun the first 5 years, it starts to get old.

  33. My bonus.. by questforme · · Score: 3, Interesting

    All I want for Christmas is a FREAKIN JOB!! Been out of work since September..

    1. Re:My bonus.. by k-0s · · Score: 1

      Yeah me too. Jobs rule...if you HAVE ONE!!

    2. Re:My bonus.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear McDonalds is hiring

  34. Fired. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously.

  35. Same ol same ol by Xformer · · Score: 1

    We typically get a booby prize (food, etc. box) every year. And you're feeling cheated? :-)

    --
    All I want is a kind word, a warm bed and unlimited power.
  36. uncle bill? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who do you work for? Microsoft?

  37. Be thankful by glennrrr · · Score: 1

    I've been out of work for coming up on 6 months.

    1. Re:Be thankful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haven't worked in 9 years most likely won't work in the next 9 either... I just like to fart

    2. Re:Be thankful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever think that maybe, just maybe, you need to look into a career change?

      Seriously, I keep hearing these whine stories of "Oh woe is me, I have been out of work for X months!" and "Oh woe is me, I let my employer piss all over me because I am SO thankful to have a job!" I'm really starting to get sick of them. For the former, if you you've been unemployeed for more than three months, you're either too old for the field or not aggressive enough. In either case, it's time to find a new set of skills to make money from.

      In the latter, if you don't have the balls to stand up for yourself or realize that you can look for a better job, then I don't want to hear your damn bellyaching about how you do an outstanding job and bend over backwards for wages that would make a high schooler turn their noses up at it. There is *NO* job worth that at that level of pay. If you stay in a job like that, then you have either a self esteem problem or intelligence problem, not a job problem.

  38. muahhaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Are you kidding? That's a great gift! I mean, how thoughtful of them to give you a voodoo doll!

  39. As a Hall Kinnion Contractor I Got ... by johnatjohnytech · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fully Vested Stock Options at $7 a share.

    Now the stock is at 5.479

    Guess what they are offering this year for contractors who work over 100 hours this holiday season.....

    1. Re:As a Hall Kinnion Contractor I Got ... by NineNine · · Score: 1

      Hahahaha... I'm sorry to laugh, but that is pretty funny. Technically, taxwise, I think that they're taking money from you this Christmas! Merry Christmas!

    2. Re:As a Hall Kinnion Contractor I Got ... by johnatjohnytech · · Score: 2, Funny

      Even better....

      I tried to exercise them at $12 a share. The FAX machine would not work . So I figured I would fax it from home.
      Guess what dropped like a rock the next morning.

      Needless to say, I changed my mind about when to exercise them and I am still the proud holder of 200 options of HAKI.
      BTW. Hall Kinion has sucky benefits.

    3. Re:As a Hall Kinnion Contractor I Got ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you bought the 200 options back years ago on the open market they would have set you back what $50? Stock options are worthless unless you can use them at any time and you have insider info. only then they might have some value but then its up to you if you want to take the cash a visit levelworth or ignore the situation.

    4. Re:As a Hall Kinnion Contractor I Got ... by mindstrm · · Score: 3, Informative

      Cashing in options on insider info is totally illegal. That's insider trading, bud.

      Secondly, optoions are worth a lot, if the strike price is lower than market..
      Thirdly, if you have some issue with exercising them right away, GET A BETTER BROKER.

      If your broker has proof you have the options, he should have NO PROBLEM shorteslling the stock the second you call him to do it, and then you replace the short with your options. THAT is how you get current market price on options, without risk.

      Exercising options on the open market and then holding the stock is a BAD idea.... there is a taxable benefit on the difference between what you paid and fair market value of the stock. It's not considered capital gains.. which means if the stock goes down, you get a capital loss, but you can't offset your tax obligation.

      Go with the short.

    5. Re:As a Hall Kinnion Contractor I Got ... by johnatjohnytech · · Score: 1

      Well I've got 10 years to use them, so I will wait till HAKI goes up.

      It is not too bad.... I am paid hourly, so the extra hours were NOT unpaid :>
      In IT I think houlry rate is a good thing. <eg>

    6. Re:As a Hall Kinnion Contractor I Got ... by NineNine · · Score: 2

      As a former 6 year contractor, I can tell you: right the fuck on! Hourly IS the only way to go in IT. Hell, I think I even worked as a Hall Kinion contractor for one contract. I can't even remember. But, hourly, you get paid more, you work less (or get paid a HELL of a lot more), you don't have to deal with the beauracratic bullshit, and you can switch jobs at will. I tried a "permanent" position a few times, and each time I got shafted. Stay hourly. That's the only way to go in IT.

  40. Nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I own my company, but I don't celebrate Christmas.

  41. that's easy by Neil+Sausage · · Score: 0

    A salary and white hairs by the age of 24. Still, I guess the bobbin head beats that just because they paid $10 per employee to have the CEO figuratively jizz on their faces. I may not enjoy my job that much but at least my employers don't actively try to remove my dignity.

  42. Jelly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I got enrolled in the Jelly of the Month club. There goes that pool I wanted... - C.W.G.

    1. Re:Jelly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the gift that keeps on giving...

  43. My bonus... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got $500. Do I get a cookie or something?

  44. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  45. Christmas gift a few years ago by bakkajin · · Score: 1

    In 1998, I got as a gift from the television station that I work at we got a ornament with the station logo on it. I think everyone was suprised.

    But in fairness, we also got a gift certificate to a grocery store.

  46. well by kingofnopants · · Score: 1

    i got a pretty sweet bonus, a crappy t-shirt, and, believe it or not, some sort of Kenny g christmas collection cd (dunno, i haven't opened it yet). If i were the author i would rent a shotgun and get some bobble-head exploding satisfaction. Maybe i will use my bonus to get a few bobble-heads in the likeness of my boss...

    --
    Disco Stu was talkin' to you.
    1. Re:Well by TheTrunkDr. · · Score: 1

      "If You own a billion dolar company, and you think a new CEO is smart enough to make you into a two billion dolar company, then it would be stupid of you not to pay him enough for him to want the job.

      It certanly makes more sense then paying sports people that kind of cash..."

      The first part of your statement is fine and makes sense, I don't particularly agree with the salaries of high level management but whatever. The problem here is the second part, you claim it's reasonable to make large amounts of money if the person is potentially going to bring in more money, so how is that any different from the reason athelete makes so much money? They don't pay atheletes more than they're likely to bring in, that doesn't make any sense at all, and all pro teams would go under in that situation. Obviously the salaries of atheletes does somehow reflect what they bring in, and thus should get what they do. Personally I think it's rediculous that atheletes make what they make and they shouldn't make anything close to it, but hey if the market couldn't support it they wouldn't make it.

      --

      Good things never end "eum" they end in "MANIA" or "teria"

    2. Re:Well by Eccles · · Score: 1

      The people who own the company (the stockholders) aperantly think that the salary of these people is a resonable price to pay given how much more money they are going to be making because they are there.

      More likely the boardmembers who set the CEO's compensation are part of the old boy's club that permeates corporate America and boosts that compensation so high that analysts see it as the norm. Check who's on the various boards, watch as the CEO's option prices get restruck after a company's poor performance. It's fundamentally a scam, but they control so much between them it's nigh-impossible to invest in anything else.

      --
      Ooh, a sarcasm detector. Oh, that's a real useful invention.
  47. I got a subscription by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To the jelly-of-the-month club

  48. a pink slip by r00tarded · · Score: 2

    those fux0rs.

  49. That's bad, but... by jandrese · · Score: 2

    Check out some of the terrible gifts people have gotten over the years. It's enough to make a grown man cry.

    --

    I read the internet for the articles.
    1. Re:That's bad, but... by Joey7F · · Score: 2

      One time, when I was about 10 years old, a neighbor was giving my sister and I presents and we were giving her daughters presents. We gave them a doll and something else that I can't remember. The two of us got a pencil, not a mechanical pencil, just a plain #2 purple pencil with a ribbon tied to it.

      Wow!

      Granted I was young that the time, but that bobble head doll is looking pretty good!

      --Joey

  50. Christmas? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bah, humbug!

  51. Not very much at all... by beamso · · Score: 1

    So... What did you get from your Company for Christmas? A retrenchment. Oh, and a small cardboard box of tea. If only I drank the stuff.

  52. We got bobbleheads too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Our xmas party was on saturday and we got some bobbleheads too. We aren't getting any bonus either and we even had to pay for the xmas party! Our CEO made 200 million this year and managed to drive our stock price down to .04 cents from $14.00. Oh ya the company will probably be bankrupt by the end of the month! Damn weasels!

  53. That's twisted! ... by Hubert_Shrump · · Score: 2

    a bobble head doll

    Did it come with any accessories?

    --
    Keep your packets off my GNU/Girlfriend!
  54. get real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should be happy you got any bonus at all you lazy little bitch. You don't give a fuck about your employer, you just want to make some money. Likewise, your employer doesn't give a fuck about you, he just wants to make some money. If you aren't happy with your "bonus" then quit, it's a free market. You have no right to complain, there are people in China who don't even know what the word "bonus" means.

    1. Re:get real by Jamesie · · Score: 2, Funny

      MONG BRAINED TWAT! DIE! DIE! DIE!

      Of course I probably just fed a troll...

    2. Re:get real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      you are a dipshit.

      please do not breed.

  55. Nothing for us by cheinonen · · Score: 2

    I guess one downside of working for a non-profit organization is that we don't get any kind of Christmas bonus, but someone has to work to cure cancer, right? At least one company we buy supplies from gave us all $50 each at Amazon, my new rice maker should arrive this week.

    1. Re:Nothing for us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "but someone has to work to cure cancer, right?"

      Someone? I hope they hire many new colleages for you for newyear. Keep up the good work, hope you find something good soon.

      NIH in Rockledge?

  56. 2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by roseblood · · Score: 5, Interesting

    2 Years ago everyone (elves and management) had a nice banquet. Last year the elves got a $10 allowance to spend on the meal of choice at a local eatery (Red Lobster) while management were given a nicer banquet (ritz carlton) with an open bar. This year the elves got cards (we did get those the last 2 years as well) while management had a summer cruise for their "early xmas party" and a fully paid for meal/open bar at the local macarooni grill. Things get better for management, not so good for the elves.

    --
    There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.
    1. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by uncoveror · · Score: 5, Funny

      Elves? At Pomeroy IT Solutions, (PITS) we are called drones, and we get nothing. It is not just the economy, as we never got anything. They will probably verbally tell us we are all fired when they close the place, as printing pink slips would cost money.

      --
      The Uncoveror: It's the real news.
    2. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Honestly, this is the best advertisement for
      your company you could have possibly posted.
      Frugal is good.

    3. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by nomadic · · Score: 2

      It's the law of corporations. The perks go to the people who can afford to pay their own way.

      Next time someone waxes poetic about the efficiency of the private sector, laugh in their face.

    4. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by merodach · · Score: 1

      Hell - when your competitor InaCom folded they told the employees by a pre-recorded 800 number message. Some didn't even get the chance to call using company equipment - Pinkerton's was too busy escorting people out the doors.

      --
      ***Blackholes are where the gods divided by zero.***
    5. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by SweetAndSourJesus · · Score: 1

      If it helps, the food at those macaroni grill places is pretty terrible. They don't serve grilled macaroni, oddly enough. They just give you a look like you're the stupidest person they ever met if you ask.

      We had a similar shafting at my company, where drones got much less than queens. The solution, of course, was a healthy application of toilet paper to their houses.

      --

      --
      the strongest word is still the word "free"
    6. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by Amiga+Trombone · · Score: 5, Funny

      Elves? At Pomeroy IT Solutions, (PITS) we are called drones, and we get nothing. It is not just the economy, as we never got anything.

      Where I work, we always get a bonus...

      ...every year, they bend us over and bone us!

    7. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A group home company I worked for before paid out the big bucks to buy us all dinner at a nice ex$pen$ive resturant.

      Then the administrator hosted an award show, giving out flaky awards to other administrative staff. In fact, every one of those 10 butt-kissers got some goofy awards.

      The hard workers? Housekeeping, the nurses, the butt wipers (ha sorry, i was one of them too), the cooks and maintainence got jack.

      All of us lower folks went out that night to a bar and tossed toasts to our boss, the next year only the management went; even though we all were invited. Instead, we went to the same bar and tossed more toasts to our cheap fisted boss, who, so we heard, charged the management $ for the dinner since we didn't show.

      Anyway this year I work for a non profit company who relies on public donations as well as state funds for operations, but due to Oregon's budget crisis, we're not getting much but a present swap, but I dont mind. At least in this company we're valued and treated much better than that #!@#$$!@#$ nursing home I worked at before.

    8. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by mstyne · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...every year, they bend us over and bone us!

      Yeah, that happens all the time at my job. But it comes with the territory.

      --
      mstyne: real name, no gimmicks
    9. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by bofkentucky · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, We Bone Them

      --
      09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
    10. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by dcviper · · Score: 1

      Ha! You think you got it bad? Try having Uncle Sam as your sugar daddy. Everyone who doesn't wear khaki gets boned daily in the Navy....

      --
      Ummm, err, say what, now?
    11. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Elves? At Pomeroy IT Solutions, (PITS) we are called drones, and we get nothing. It is not just the economy, as we never got anything. They will probably verbally tell us we are all fired when they close the place, as printing pink slips would cost money.

      Drones, huh? Don't know what that means exactly, sounds kind of worrying to be honest. Maybe it is just as wierd down south as they keep telling us it is. Well, they call us elves, and there you are.

      Anyway we're kind of.. disconnected from the economy, as our good supply chains are kind of autonomous, so to speak. Policy changes mostly happen based on Management politics, the Big Boss will kind of stop paying attention to the actual workings for awhile and let middle management run things, and things will get worse for the workers, and then eventually he'll start taking an active interest and things will get better for us, as he isn't too fond of self-serving behavior. But, he's been very out of touch lately, so it goes.

      They don't ever really fire any of us because really, where would we go? There isn't anything else up at this part of the north pole, and they aren't just going to leave us outside to freeze. They could fire us, but then we'd just be hanging around the workshop outbuildings all the time, and it would be a bit of a nuisance. Easier to just keep us on the payroll and too busy to question things, than figure out what to do with us once we were off. Mostly they just put people down in the Wrapping department and forget about them when they don't want to hear from them.

      I dunno. I have a cousin who has connections down with Keebler, says they always have openings for elves and it's more dull but more along the lines of skilled labor, their operation is a bit more modernized than ours, as they're all mechanized and we still hand-make most things. So maybe i should try to start working out a way to get down there and get a job with them, a change would be nice. But, i'm happy with things overall, it just would have been nice to be treated to some more of those Red Lobster gift certificates once in awhile, they don't pay us so much.

      Speaking of which, i'd better get back to work. Crunch time's coming...

      Cheers,
      roseblood

    12. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by mentin · · Score: 2

      That explains why this company folded. You can't survive long with such an attitute toward your workers.

      --
      MSDOS: 20+ years without remote hole in the default install
    13. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hmmmm....boned daily in the Navy...boning..semen...not good pictures

    14. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I know it's hard out there. People have jobs to support thier kids, work 18-20 hours a day 7 days a week. They are just barely getting by. Their bosses suck, treat them like jerks, and never show appreciation. Then some guy tries to tell them it can all be fixed if theyed just take some initiative, and they feel like telling them to go fsck themselves. It all boils down to this though. We live in a capitalistic(mostly) society. You can make something with hard work and ingenuity. There DOES exist nepotism and the old boys club and countless other societal institutions people create to make for themselves and not for others, trying to monopolize human resources. The answer is, was, and always will be hard work, intelligence, and a desire for the greater good. There are so many ways in which the fight of good versus evil occurs every day, and all of you people out there depressed, lonely, and needing to feed your kids while working 18 hours a day, remember, there ARE others of us out here trying to make things better.
      I saw a few small business owners trying to remind you that they are trying to be good bosses. And i saw a few people posting saying, "Hey those people do exist, and I work for one of them." Kudos to the bosses for being altruistic, and kudos to those employees recognizing that there is someone on their side and saying thank you out loud.
      I don't want to be a preacher, but really, as the richest nation on the planet, let's try to remember that we can still grow in richness of spirit of helping our fellow man. And that doesn't mean just giving money. I think the most important gift any person can give to our society is initiative. Maybe you don't like your job. But you could start a business on the side. Work together with other people you know who are also pissed about their jobs. Figure out little small things that each of you could give 30 minutes a day to and do it. Heck 30 minutes a week! Build lawn chairs! Start a community nursery. Invest in yourself, your future, your community, and your investment will be returned to you. And you can gaurantee it just by looking at it and saying, I am having fun for free doing this.

    15. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by Shark · · Score: 1

      Maybe corporate elves go free if they are given a tie... Keep hoping.

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      Mind the frickin' laser...
    16. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe if taxes werent at 50%+ the private sector would be doing better and the whiners here would go get a new job and stop being sheep.

      Yeah capitalism works so poorly a country with only 290 million people has 60% of the world's wealth....

    17. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 1

      Ah, a fellow Pomeranian. I made it out in '01. I remember the year we transitioned from bonuses to lapel pins(1998). When, the year after that, the company simply failed to acknowledge Christmas, most of us felt relieved. In '00, they wanted us to work on Christmas because of all the Y2K hype.

      I could write a book on how consummately evil that company is.

    18. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by Eccles · · Score: 1

      How many of us use "bob" as an object name when we can't think of anything better? static chatClient bob[] = new chat

      I used to use fred, since the keys are together in a nice square on qwerty keyboards.

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      Ooh, a sarcasm detector. Oh, that's a real useful invention.
    19. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by eam · · Score: 1

      > I used to use fred, since the keys are together
      > in a nice square on qwerty keyboards.

      Ahhh, a kindred spirit. Fred Derf has always been the name I've used for testing software. Fred once saved my ass in college. Working on a group project I screwed up while deleting files (really stupid, like not realizing that \rm *s* would delete every copy because every copy started with "s". However I had earlier saved a backup copy as "fred" out of laziness & "fred" was still there ;-)

    20. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by nomadic · · Score: 1

      If you think taxes are at 50% you're just delusional. 50%. Ha.

    21. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by Crispin+Glover · · Score: 1

      Someone mod this guy up. You'd think a community that espouses the open source work ethic would take notice of this.

    22. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the elves fault. They allow themselves to be taken advantage of. If all the elves were to strike management would not be able to have these lavish affairs, unless it was of course in New Delhi ( their new corporate headquarters )

    23. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well some khaki get the bone by proxy. We were in CIC and our red-headed-step-chiold chief told my watch partner to get him his gas-mask ... bad idea he went and got it and dirty-dicked it on the way back.

    24. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by byron150 · · Score: 1

      You may have posted as AC and that's kewl.....but I don't think you quite got the recognition that your post deserved. I found it rather amusing and it probably took you a little bit of time to write. Thanks for making my day brighter..sorry I don't have mod points at the moment.

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    25. Re:2 Years ago, Last year, This year. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the other poster was right... If you want a bonus, you may need to move to india that is where most of our work is going. Hope congress hears this when they try to figure out where to give the tax breaks

  57. Quit by fobbman · · Score: 5, Funny

    You got a BOBBLE-HEAD DOLL OF THE CEO?! Dude, I would so quit that place.

    Out of curiosity, where do you work? What are the benefits like? Would they pay to relocate?

    1. Re:Quit by mrseigen · · Score: 5, Funny
      You got a BOBBLE-HEAD DOLL OF THE CEO?! Dude, I would so quit that place.


      I'm sure he ran over it with his car in the parking lot. If anyone else got bobble-head dolls, you should smash them all with hammers, shove them in a box and fed-ex them to that fat bastard's office along with a note that says: "We made you. We can break you".

      Then just wait for the cops to show up.
    2. Re:Quit by Azghoul · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wow, nice job belittling the guy for having a little fun. I'm sure you put up with all kinds of crap where you work.

      I'd like to think that some people (including some, shocker, adults!) would rather live with a little idealism and self-respect.

      Old man, sometimes, adults can suck it up and quit at a place rather than putting up with obnoxious or rude working conditions.

      Some day I hope you'll understand that there are things more important than paychecks.

    3. Re:Quit by jordie · · Score: 1

      Lets wait and see what your response is once you've gotten past grade 8 and have worked at McDonalds for a bit.

    4. Re:Quit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a fucking idiot. Have a nice day.

    5. Re:Quit by Cruciform · · Score: 2

      What a sneaky way to hide bonus cheques. :)
      Put them in bobble-headed dolls. 90% of the employees throw them out or destroy them in a fit of rage.
      10 Percent pull off the head and find a nice surprise inside and cash it. :)
      The company saves hundreds of thousands of dollars, and the CEO has a good laugh and buys a new gold plated pitchfork.

    6. Re:Quit by rmohr02 · · Score: 4, Funny

      But for anybody to collect, they'd have to take the doll apart. What they should do is make a bobblehead for each employee and give it out in mid-December, then in mid-January tell the employees they can turn in their bobbleheads for a generous bonus. Of course, this will only work once.

    7. Re:Quit by discHead · · Score: 1

      "Some day I hope you'll understand that there are things more important than paychecks."

      Yup. Unemployment benefits.

  58. I got off better than you did! by Richard_at_work · · Score: 2

    Our company is *very* employee centric. They practically go out of their way to make sure the employees are happy, and try to build as much of a family feeling as anything. Last year, i had a few personal problems and a couple of the directors spoke to me and offered help from them personally and the company.

    As to what i got, since ive been with the company for over 1 christmas, i get £100 cash bonus. NExt year i get a 13 monthes wage. Oh and also we had a free christmas party with a few free drinks etc. The company also does a yearly profit share.

    Its a great company to work for.

    1. Re:I got off better than you did! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Richard, if you are not actually taking large doses of recreational drugs, would you mind telling us the name of such a great company?

      Most of the posters are telling us they got a lump of coal ... or worse ... but you are actually describing a decent company. I think it would be worthwhile for them to get some recognition for this. I know I have worked at some places where we were making money hand over fist only to get lied to about the bottom line at the end of the year because somebody didn't think we should get such large productivity bonuses since we had "already been paid". That is true, we had already been paid. But we got middle-of-the-road wages and had clearly performed well above average for our industry. All the exceptional profitability, it seems, was the result of savvy management.

    2. Re:I got off better than you did! by Richard_at_work · · Score: 2

      Check my website, on the profile page and see who i work for. It truely is a good company :)

  59. XMAS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got concert tix on the floor (7th row center) of a big-name band and a $1500 bonus.

  60. At Philips Semiconductors... by n9hmg · · Score: 1

    Pink slips. Not all around, but still, Merry Fscking Christmas. Feel free to use that to grab some points on fuckedcompany.com.

    1. Re:At Philips Semiconductors... by Hammer · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that's what I got too...

  61. At least... by dr_dank · · Score: 3, Funny

    you didn't get a one year subscription to the jelly-of-the-month club.

    Which, IMHO, led to one of the best tirades in a motion picture.

    --
    Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
    1. Re:At least... by sconeu · · Score: 4, Funny

      You don't understand. When you get the KY jelly, you know your about to be fscked.

      --
      General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
    2. Re:At least... by MsGeek · · Score: 2

      Or a visit with Bob Porter and Bob Slydell...sooner or later, every work situation becomes Office Space.

      --
      Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
    3. Re:At least... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the gift that keeps on giving - all year long.

    4. Re:At least... by fwoomer · · Score: 1

      You don't understand. When you get the KY jelly, you know your about to be fscked.

      Your ex-company gave you KY!?!? Lucky bastard. I neither got that kind of warning, nor the added comfort from my fscking.

      and the pink slip wasn't even pink. cheap bastards.

    5. Re:At least... by dentar · · Score: 1

      > Your ex-company gave you KY!?!? Lucky bastard.

      How the heck can a company give someone Kentucky? ...and why are they lucky bastards for getting Kentucky?

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      -- I am. Therefore, I think!
  62. What the - ! by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nothing entitles you to a christmas bonus, but nothing would have been better than a stupid toy. A bonus is a sign of respect for you as an employee and that shows a complete lack of respect.

    Considering how the economy is right now, I expect you will see a bunch of "you're lucky you have a job" flames.

    Incidently, I got turkey money - a gift certificate for a major supermarket chain. We usually get a bonus if the company sells a certain amount of product, but due to extenuating circumstances (drawn out price negotiations with a major customer which means we'll sell a lot of product next year but didn't hit our forecast at all this year) we won't be getting anything.

    And we're fighting off a hostile takeover right now, so I may just get a pink slip for christmas (or have to move to another city, if I'm lucky).

    Merry fucking Christmas everyone :)

    --
    Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
  63. our holiday bonuses by feldkamp · · Score: 1

    We get our holiday bonuses after the holidays, because it takes forever to get anything aproved through our parent company.

    Nothin' like a christmas bonus in late January :)

    I'm definately not complaining though... I count myself as lucky to be getting anything.

    1. Re:our holiday bonuses by lactose99 · · Score: 2

      Likewise. Since our bonus isn't calculated until the end-of-year financials are in, I'll be lucky to get mine sometime in March.

      Notice I said lucky, I am still grateful that I actually get a performance bonus.

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      Fully licensed blockchain psychiatrist
  64. no gift is fine by g4dget · · Score: 2

    It's fine for the company not to give you a Christmas gift. But a bobble head doll is just in seriously bad taste.

  65. let's see now.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    i can get up to 5% of last year's salary as a bonus. Although, it's paid twice a year, so 2.5%. 75% is based on compay performance, 25% is based on dept goals. Did i mention that the dept goal wasn't announced until July? Did i also mention that the dept goals were unrealistic?

    However, don;t like it? Quit and get a new job or start your own company and learn why 90% of businesses fail in their first 2 years.

  66. unemployed by drpatt · · Score: 1

    What company???

  67. I'm unemployed. by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    But the year before last I worked over xmas break and all I got was Jack Shit.

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    autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
    1. Re:I'm unemployed. by octalc0de · · Score: 1

      Your website doesn't count as a job? NineNine seems to think his does.

    2. Re:I'm unemployed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damnit! where does this Jack come from, and why does everyone buy his shit??

      I want to sell my shit!

  68. they gave me the slip by mechaZardoz · · Score: 1

    ...pink that is

  69. My advice is this by Subcarrier · · Score: 1

    I found myself the proud recipient of... a bobble head doll of the company CEO!

    Put the doll on your office desk, get yourself a wooden hammer, and use the doll as stress relief toy.

    Incidentally, I got a new CEO for Cristmas.

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    "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them." -- George H. W. Bush
  70. S.F.A. by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 2

    Sweet Fuck-All.

  71. A possibility for engineers by Erik · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A fellow engineering student and I were laughing about this, and think we may have a way to derive some enjoyment from the bobble-head gift.

    Say that the bobble head doll is six inches tall, and your CEO is six feet tall. This is just an approximation, as I don't have the fortune of either owning any bobble head dolls, or knowing your CEO. This gives us a 1:12 scale.

    At this scale, a .22 caliber rifle is conservatively similar to a 25 mm anti-aircraft round. Any idea where I'm going with this?

    Sure, the idea of shooting the thing has occurred to many others already, but it would be more interesting to make an engineering report out of it. Figure out what scaled distance you're shooting from, discuss material differences, apply these to difficulties which may be encountered in a more "real-life" setting, and you've got the makings of a great arrest and restraining order story. Videos could be used to further explicate the point, and different ammunition sizes experimented with to really explore the problem fully.

    As a fictitious company I was part of this semester said, "We don't look for problems, we look for solutions".


    Erik

    1. Re:A possibility for engineers by Eric+Smith · · Score: 2
      In California it is illegal to use a recognizable image of a person as a target. Though I somewhat doubt that anyone's been hauled in for using Bin Laden targets. Anyhow, the same stupid law probably would cover dolls.

      Our elected representatives often exempt themselves from various laws; it would be nice if they would exempt themselves from this one, so that we could use their images on targets.

    2. Re:A possibility for engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "In California it is illegal to use a recognizable image of a person as a target."

      Really? California is a really f'ed up place when it comes to laws.

  72. Hey, at least you can throw your gift out... by freerangegeek · · Score: 1

    I got a pink slip, and unemployment checks.

  73. Employer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Christmas party? Present?

    You lucky, lucky bastard.

  74. Yikes! by Eric(b0mb)Dennis · · Score: 1

    A free scoop of ice cream!

    Yeah, I can feel the envy already.... Working for baskin robbins has its perks ;)

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    Excuse me, I don't mean to impose, but I am the ocean
  75. Could be worse by Dukeofshadows · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My brother's boss is toying with the idea of having his staff working on Xmas day. He doesn't celebrate the holiday but they don't get off the holidays he celebrates either.

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    As long as there is a Second Amendment, there will always be a First Amendment.
  76. Just out of curiosity... by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What did you give to your bosses and the company owner for allowing you to exchange your labor for money? Oh, nothing? The giving should only flow one way because the company should be thankful that you allow your labor to be purchased for money?

    Let me give you a free clue: you will be MUCH more successful when you look at employment as an agreement among equals instead of a master to a purchased slave who pathetically looks for gifts of approval.

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    Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
    1. Re:Just out of curiosity... by lactose99 · · Score: 3

      ...pathetically looks for gifts of approval.

      Welcome to the real world chummo, in this economy you take whatever gifts you can get. I don't expect my bonus this year (or any year), but I'm damned sure to take it when its offered. A company has an obligation to offer incentives for employees (especially hard-working ones), otherwise they run the risk of those same employees heading for the door. I'm sure your "agreement among equals" works in your world but when my "equals" are giving me projects on top of projects to complete with less headcount than last year (which translates to more hours for the same salary), I figure some extra $$$ is the LEAST they can do to say thanks.

      --
      Fully licensed blockchain psychiatrist
    2. Re:Just out of curiosity... by Sideswiped · · Score: 1

      "you will be MUCH more successful when you look at employment as an agreement among equals "

      ok I'm having some problems doing that math.

      muti-million dollar CEO = working class man that gets multi-thousands and a bobble head doll(of the other man he is supposed to be equals with)?

      Doesn't quite add up but then again maybe I should have contiued on to calculus.

      oh and the CEO mostlikely gave himself some retarded end of the year bonus worth more then this mans pay check(which before the sales slump was the bare minimum of a million dollars).

      now if your saying this guy should move on to a company that treats their workers as equals, then let me ride your train

    3. Re:Just out of curiosity... by hitzroth · · Score: 2

      I figure some extra $$$ is the LEAST they can do to say thanks

      How 'bout not firing your ass? Keeping you in the steady paychecks is precisely what they're doing to say "thanks".

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      In mathematics, one does not understand things, one merely gets used to them.
      --VonNeumann
    4. Re:Just out of curiosity... by smilinggoat · · Score: 1

      ...look at employment as an agreement among equals instead of a master to a purchased slave...

      This will be possible when companies listen to unions and the managment are not elevated to a superior status. When all parts of a company are regarded as equally important this will happen. When workers are valued at more than miniumum wage and the boss does not suck up millions this will happen. Until then it is the employer's responsibility to supply employee with as many kick backs as possible.

    5. Re:Just out of curiosity... by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2

      That's just a bad philosophy. Jealousy does not make you more money. You make EXACTLY as much money as you are worth. That the guy at the top makes millions has nothing whatsoever to do with how much money you make. So why worry about how much someone else makes? Worry about yourself.

      Note that worth is how much you are perceived to be worth, and how much you have negotiated to be worth. If you are paid less than you think you are worth, then either negotiate it higher or find someone else who agrees.

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      Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
    6. Re:Just out of curiosity... by kubrick · · Score: 1

      employment as an agreement among equals

      Thanks, that gave me my best laugh for months. :)

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      deus does not exist but if he does
    7. Re:Just out of curiosity... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Say, that whole "not having a soul" thing, how's that going for ya?

    8. Re:Just out of curiosity... by shirai · · Score: 1

      I can't mod this since I posted but here here. I always here of employees who are frustrated about their situation until I explain to them that the power is actually in their hands. If you are worth more than you are being remunerated for (in money, motivation, fun, sense of team, etc.) then you have the power to quit.

      This is AT LEAST as powerful as the the power to fire.

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  77. A salad bowl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got a real salad bowl. I guess yours is worse ;-)

  78. You got a bobble head CEO?!?!? by dynoman7 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wow! I work for the world's largest defence contractor and ALL I GOT WAS A CARD IN THE MAIL!

    You should feel lucky...

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    Blarf.
    1. Re:You got a bobble head CEO?!?!? by sconeu · · Score: 3, Funny

      When I worked for what is now part of the country's SECOND largest defense contractor, we found out that the division pres had donated *A* cow in the name of the division. Not a bunch of cows (for about 3K employees), but ONE FSCKING cow... Oh, and I got a card in the mail.

      --
      General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
    2. Re:You got a bobble head CEO?!?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the FUCK are you talking about? Donated a cow to who? What?

    3. Re:You got a bobble head CEO?!?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      McDonalds?

  79. Whiner! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pissed? Pissed because someone didn't give you something as nice as you expected. Theres a reason its called a 'bonus'! If you are exxpecting it its not a bonus its called 'pay'.

  80. Could have been worse by egjertse · · Score: 5, Funny

    It could have been a life size doll!

    1. Re:Could have been worse by brad2600 · · Score: 1

      or it could have been a real doll.

      .brad

    2. Re:Could have been worse by minion · · Score: 1

      It could have been a life size doll!

      Then you could of at least added orifices and fucked him like he's fucking you.

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      -- If we don't stand up for our rights, now, there will be no right to stand up for them later.
    3. Re:Could have been worse by XMunkki · · Score: 1

      Worse or better, depending on who your boss is. I would mind working "under" a she.

  81. Wait For The Company to Go Under by NeuroManson · · Score: 2

    Then sell it as "rare" company memorabilia?

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    Just because you can mod me down, doesn't mean you're right. Shoes for industry!
    1. Re:Wait For The Company to Go Under by kubrick · · Score: 1

      Some of the other posts suggest that the culprit is Oracle... so that could take a while :/

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      deus does not exist but if he does
  82. I got let go by cdtoad · · Score: 1

    so sell your f'n bobble head online. I'm now looking at zero severance package and zero unemployment benifits.

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    when they ban enctryption only criminals wi$21*J *#JF$%!@#$':
    1. Re:I got let go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you got let go, as in laid off, you should have unemployment benefits coming to you. Check with your local unemployment office. If you got fired, as in for cause, I do not feel to bad for you...sorry

  83. One of the lucky ones I guess... by ErnieD · · Score: 1

    I guess I'm lucky, but I'm working at a really great company that's going nowhere but up, and we all just got handed $500 bonus checks last week.

    *Shrug*

  84. Personally... by Apathetic1 · · Score: 1

    Heh... Overtime pay. They want all the equipment that's to be donated to charity donated to charity by December 25 and authorized me to work all the overtime I need to get the job done.

    So my company isn't giving me all that much... But those charities are getting early Christmas presents! Pentium 3 450s. Compaqs, but still...

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    My username does not make me Apathetic. It's irony, get it?

  85. Shutup and Sit Down by spanky555 · · Score: 1

    Quit your whining.I'm not even working, thank you very much...I've been out of work for almost four months now. My unemployment "benefits" are going to run out soon, and you are worried about what you got for your Christmas bonus.

    And I haven't gotten a Christmas bonus since 1994, and I've made my share of money for my bosses. It didn't chafe, though, because I was paid what I thought was a decent salary.

    Be happy you are working - there are plenty of highly qualified people (like me) who are not.

    1. Re:Shutup and Sit Down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're so highly qualified why are you reading through hundrends of comments on slashdot instead of posting your resume to job boards and lining up interviews?

      A friend of mine was laid off in may in Seattle, which has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country due to dot com fallout. He found a job in about 2 months

      The truth of the matter is there is always a market for good people; also if you have been working for 8 years and dont have contacts that can line you up with a new position, chances are you are exaggerating your skillset a bit.

    2. Re:Shutup and Sit Down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      You're an idiot. I can't wait for you to lose your job. I normally wouldn't wish that on anyone but for you I'll make an exception. Just so you can experience it. I can guarantee you will lose your job with that attitude. FYI: once you do, you can expect to have 400+ applicants applying for each and every job you do. You can expect never to hear ANYTHING from the company you are applying for 99.5% of the time. (It doesn't help to try to find out before the magical date HR sets for a decision to be made either, you'll get stopped by HR) The other .45% of the time you can expect to get an email or letter back, a thanks but no thanks letter. Oh by the way you'll get that letter on average 3 months or more after you apply. The last .01% of the time you will get asked for an interview. At that point you have ~10-25% chance of getting the job without factoring qualifications(actually it will be more or less at this point but you don't know the quals of the others), i.e. 4-10 other applicants. I was laid off 2 years ago at christmas, I finally got a job in august of this year. I am fully qualified for the jobs I applied for, but so are HUNDREDS of other people. I applied for ~1500+ jobs, only ones I wanted to do and was qualified for, honestly I lost count.

      I'm damn glad to be working. You should be too.

      Your friend is luckier than you know. We all are.

      STFU rookie.

    3. Re:Shutup and Sit Down by spanky555 · · Score: 1

      The truth of the matter is there is always a market for good people; also if you have been working for 8 years and dont have contacts that can line you up with a new position, chances are you are exaggerating your skillset a bit.

      Well, that's a good theory, but it doesn't always work that way. I can name quite a few people still working who are incompetent jackasses, but they are still working because they play golf and the like with the right someone(s), and/or they kiss copious amounts of ass...even the most basic of objective reviews would reveal they are dead weight, but there they are.

      All the contacts I know are at places with hiring freezes, or else they are laid off themselves.

      Oh, and I live in Denver - said to be the worst market in the country, and one of the last to recover, when a recovery happens.

      In any case, good for your friend, but his situation doesn't necessarily reflect on mine.

      Lastly, I've posted my resume to every known job board, with little to no response, and I'm told that finding a job that way is no longer anything but a lottery draw - you have to "know" people. Well, I'm not one of the well-heeled, and don't run in the same circles as CTOs and CEOs, so I guess I'm up shit creek, huh?

      Did you ever stop to think your friend might have more political influence, and we was not necessarily hired on merit?

  86. I'm a student. by SHEENmaster · · Score: 1

    And my school's gift was a 3 day out-of-school suspension for discovering a teacher/student affair that could damage the schools reputation!

    Aint dat a kick in da pants!

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    You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
    1. Re:I'm a student. by Zebbers · · Score: 1

      hahaha thats fucking funny

    2. Re:I'm a student. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Time for revenge, then!

      If you are 100% sure there is something going on, then I reccomend you email all local news outlets (TV, newspaper, radio, etc..), and CC these emails to your school's PR department (and/or person who suspended you).

      If school retailates against you for doing that, then threaten legal action (tell them you will be calling the ACLU) for punishing you for something that you did not do on school grounds/time, and make an even bigger scene with the media!

    3. Re:I'm a student. by Goalie_Ca · · Score: 1

      i agree, blackmailing them would be nice. Remeber, you are in control NOT THEM!!!!

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  87. Where's that 'dictatorship of the proletariat'? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    getting a damn doll of the guy who made 65 million last year just makes me angry.

    Ha! You just got your account serviced.

  88. Why doesn't the CEO take a pay cut? by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's hard for a leader to ask his followers to do anything that he isn't willing to do himself. How can a CEO credibily cut costs at the company when his own pay is $65 million and he's destributing bobbleheads of himself? Couldn't he live on the still-large pay of $45 million and reallocate the $20 million to softening (not eliminating, just softening) the blow to the rest of the company? Or have companies given up on trying to get employees to be loyal anymore?

    1. Re:Why doesn't the CEO take a pay cut? by spanky555 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He doesn't have to try to get loyal employees - both major political parties are assisting him and every other large company in getting workers on the cheap from some piss-poor 3rd world country to do our jobs for 1/10 the cost or less...whether by outsourcing or by moving the whole company there. *Those* folks will be loyal, because the alternative is to live in absolute squalor. The only jobs left in this country that you will be able to eke out a middle-class living or better will be lawyer, doctor, VPs, executives, and CxO. Everyone else will be in "service industry" job (you want fries with that?) or on welfare.

      Welcome to globalism. It's all about the "staying competitive" strawman. I don't think even laissez-faire folks would have been on board with today's globalism. It fucks everyone over but board members, CxOs, and executives.

      If said CEO does enough "globalism", he could make 100 million, and to hell with the country that actually affords him that opportunity.

    2. Re:Why doesn't the CEO take a pay cut? by wdr1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why should s/he?

      For one, the salaries you mentioned aren't that common. But even in the cases where they are, the companies feel they are producing value worth that amount over the term of their contracts. The company doesn't have to pay it, but if it is that calibur of CEO, another company will. Just like sports salary's. You don't *have* to pay a given player $20 million, but if you don't there is another team that will. What's wrong with that?

      Are you saying you would stay at your job out of loyalty, even if they were paying you $25,000 and another offered you $75,000?

      -Bill

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    3. Re:Why doesn't the CEO take a pay cut? by oyenstikker · · Score: 2

      The problem isn't that someone on top things the CEO is worth X amount of dollars. Its that the CEOs and the board members were all in the same frats in college, hang out at the same exclusive clubs, and have an unspoken agreement to keep each other at the top by standing on the people who do the real work.

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    4. Re:Why doesn't the CEO take a pay cut? by CommieOverlord · · Score: 1

      No I wouldn't stay with the $25,000. But, yes I would stay with $45M over $65M.

      The difference between $25,000 and $75,000 is from scraping by paycheck to living comfortably. The difference between $45M and $65M is between living in super luxury and living in ultra super luxury.

    5. Re:Why doesn't the CEO take a pay cut? by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

      But, yes I would stay with $45M over $65M.

      It sure is easy to say, isn't it?

    6. Re:Why doesn't the CEO take a pay cut? by wdr1 · · Score: 2

      ts that the CEOs and the board members were all in the same frats in college, hang out at the same exclusive clubs, and have an unspoken agreement to keep each other at the top by standing on the people who do the real work.

      You have a very skewed few of the world. If this were the case they company wouldn't be able to pay the SIXTY-FIVE MILLION DOLLAR salaries mentioned. There are the frat-boy clubs, but they are pretty much exclusive to the doing-well companies.

      -Bill

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    7. Re:Why doesn't the CEO take a pay cut? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Bah. I have yet to see an example where those hypothetical 1/10 salaried miracle programmers do anything close to even just-average work done by me or my co-workers. Couple of companies I've seen try it, results have been pretty much disastrous. And salaries aren't usually as low as 1/10 (I'll need to ask my indian co-workers about realistic ratio... I don't think it's that big, comparing people with equivalent experience etc). [to to get 1/2 salary you need not look further than some western-european countries, to get 1/4 or so, eastern europe... who knows, perhaps india would be over 1/5 ratio]. Examples of stuff being moved has been QA, support, admin, parts of RD... none of which worked too well (some worked almost ok, with 4x head count of US equivalent... but with 12 hour time difference I thought thing still sucked)

      But of course greedy company leaders try doing it. After all, it's anywhere between 50 to 80% cheaper to outsource development to India. "And perhaps others did something wrong that we do better". Sweet dreams, PHBs of the world. The problem is that results are 80 to 99% more sucky.

      Now, I actually kind of do hope that things get worked out and outsourcing to, say, India becomes really viable for getting high-quality software. If that happens, salaries start raising like a rocket in the country in question (inevitably, I might add).. and then cycle starts over again, since there is steady supply of poor countries in the world. Of course not all of them have good enough educational system (which is somewhat of a requirement for high tech jobs)... but there are enough that do. That would help some of poorer countries, and share wealth. And in some industries (textile etc) it has happened over the years.

    8. Re:Why doesn't the CEO take a pay cut? by shnarez · · Score: 1
      Are you saying you would stay at your job out of loyalty, even if they were paying you $25,000 and another offered you $75,000?

      The difference is that while you can barely live in some parts of the country on 25k, you can live just about anywhere on $45mil. And if that person doesn't want the job for $45mil, there are many people who'll take it. Some of them may even do the work better.

      The point here is that management, which makes the critical business decisions should be THE ONE to take the paycuts -- after all, it was their business choice that got the company into the red in the first place. It's not fair to the ones actually DOING THE WORK to get paid less, they didn't have a say in the company direction anyhow.

    9. Re:Why doesn't the CEO take a pay cut? by Doomdark · · Score: 2
      Just like sports salary's. You don't *have* to pay a given player $20 million, but if you don't there is another team that will. What's wrong with that?

      Assuming skills of executives were tangible and measurable -- like they are in sports -- that'd be understandable. Wrong, unfair, but understandable. However, whereas you can compare performances of athletes, especially since sports that can afford big money are mostly team based, performance of a CEO is impossible to reliable and objectively measure. If you could compare a dozen CEO under identical conditions, you would see the difference. Too bad it can not be done without access to parallel universes.

      What this leads to, is the myth of magical super-powered leaders. Myth in that there's little connection to reality. One man does not usually make a huge (positive) difference in big corporations, not even the leaders. And one could say, leaders especially do not make positive difference, at least not when they are compared to relative high compenstaion.

      Still, you are right, in that the line of thinking you mention is still in fashion... amazingly, after dotcom burst and accounting scandals. And even though there's lots of criticism toward iconizing big high-salaried leaders... many people realize that really good leaders are often not in the limelight, don't have big mouths nor astronomical salaries. And interestingly enough, they are often committed to long-term prosperity, and do NOT do jobhopping although they would be in good position to do just that.

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    10. Re:Why doesn't the CEO take a pay cut? by Maul · · Score: 2

      I agree. In my opinion, the first thing a good leader would do in a time of financial hardships is to take the blame for a company's shortcomings, and cut their own salary. Instead it seems that the first thing they do is lay off people and then hope that the move "looks good" to the investors on Wall Street.

      While most CEOs don't take in 65 Million a year, many CEOs could take a considerable cut in their pay and still live a life of relative ease, financially. I'm sure that there are some CEOs who do take pay cuts, but I'm sure there are far more who don't.

      Unfortunately, many execs have learned to get where they are by taking credit for what others do, pinning the blame for their failures on their underlings, and looking out for themselves no matter what the circumstances.

      This breed of people probably don't know what it means to make a sacrifice for others, no matter how little.

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    11. Re:Why doesn't the CEO take a pay cut? by oyenstikker · · Score: 2

      What does the ability to pay 65M have to do with it?

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  89. You know what they say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thoswe CEO's make the big bucks because they're enabling their companies to make the big bucks..

    Err, I meant you have to pay these people high salaries so they will have no reason to be tempted into unethical behavior..errr..oops.

    Wait! It's not really a lot of money! You could only employ 1,000 people at a rate of 64,000 a year with that salary.

    these CEO's have driven our economy straight into the ground. There is no longer any justification for the salaries they make. Those thousand workers would contribute money back into their community. I wonder what offshore bank that guy is sending his?

  90. I wish I got a paycheck... by Gags · · Score: 1

    I got a pink slip...

    Would you like that cup of STFU now?

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    1. Re:I wish I got a paycheck... by mr.+methane · · Score: 1

      Two years ago, making "Presidents Club" meant you got a free trip to Honolulu. This year.. it means you get to keep your job.

      I got a modest salary increase, and a plea to continue helping to control costs and keep the ink from turning red again. And I'm grateful.

      But yeah, I miss the days of having headhunters stalk me for a dozen positions at one time.

    2. Re:I wish I got a paycheck... by jpcampbell · · Score: 1

      I have to agree. I got a nice pink slip with one week severance. The last group laid off got up to 3 months. I'm glad they rewarded me for being loyal and not bailing on them.

  91. I got a paycheck.. by nurb432 · · Score: 2

    Be glad you are employeed, your boss doesnt OWE you a bonus..

    Many people are with out jobs.. so grow up and stop whining.

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    1. Re:I got a paycheck.. by LostCluster · · Score: 2

      No, but what boss is entitled to the ability to spend company funds on bobblehead dolls of himself, and then can honestly turn to the employees and tell them that times are tough?

  92. You Are A Spoiled Brat... by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 1, Troll

    ...and really deserve a spanking from mommy.

    A friend of mine works for a small company (Less than 100 employees) that had Christmas party. Later she heard some employees complaining that the food wasn't that good -- yada, yada, yada. It never occured to them that the party cost $40 per person for the company to do. They did not charge the employees, so that $40 per employee came out of the company's pocket (and this isn't a Fortune 500 type company).

    Every action we make, everything we say, makes a statement about who we are.

    So you didn't even get comped for your parking ticket? Maybe the company already spent $40 OR MORE just so you could be there. What are you saying about yourself by pissing and moaning about this? That whatever you get isn't enough.

    So you got a bobble-head of your boss? By giving such gifts, your boss is making a statement about his huge ego. By not just chucking it into the garbage on your way out (or waiting and throwing it out later when nobody would see you), you are saying you would rather whine and moan than just deal with something and move on.

    So your boss made $65 million this year and you didn't. We all pity you. After all, it is so hard to get off your butt, get out of your cubicle, and start your own business, so you are the one who determines what you make. Obviously you'd rather complain than do that. And that, you spoiled, lazy, whiney butt, is why the boss is making $65 mill a year -- because he isn't lazy and got off his butt climbed to the top.

    I was making less than $20,000 a year and a half ago. I hated it. Now I'm making less, but have contracts that basically mean I'll be making 5 figures by the end of 2003 (that's 5 figures a month -- my own income, not my companies). Let me know your name, so I never hire you. Why? Because I'm working my butt off so one day soon I'll be making $65 mill a year. I want employees who are eager to make more and do well, not people who want to whine and piss and moan about what they don't have or didn't get when their company pays for a Christmas party and they have a job that pays the rent, and they're not on welfare, and they weren't killed in the World Trade Centers on 9/11, and they don't live in a country or location where they are lucky they lived long enough to see their 1st birthday.

    Sure, the bobble-head was in poor taste, but complaining about the freebies you got, or complaining because you didn't get enough freebies is just plain childish.

    Get over it and grow up!

    1. Re:You Are A Spoiled Brat... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      What a complete load of horseshit.

      Anyone that has to chant "grow up" at others doesn't really understand the concept of being an adult.

    2. Re:You Are A Spoiled Brat... by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 2

      Why? Does the idea of taking on responsibility for one's own place in life and the conditions around one offend you? Is it a little more than you can deal with or accept?

      We can whine like a baby, or accept responsibility and do something about our life, where we work, and what we do.

      Perhaps the thought of taking responsibility offends you?

    3. Re:You Are A Spoiled Brat... by johnatjohnytech · · Score: 1

      Troll bait?

      Chances are they probably would not want to work for someone like you anyways.

      Now me on the other hand, I am a Great Boss.

      Supporting information: I'd give some if I had any ;).

    4. Re:You Are A Spoiled Brat... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Your work ethic is commendable, yet you still sound like the most unpleasant kind of asshole I hope I never have to endure a conversation with.

      You've latched on the one thing you could get upset about. This was about respect, not finances. The author is also interested in other ridiculous gifts. You have lack respect in tone, manner, and values.

    5. Re:You Are A Spoiled Brat... by Azghoul · · Score: 1

      "Troll-bait"-flinging moderators be damned, but I agree with you... now the important question is, what arena are you contracting in, and how can some of the rest of us get in that action? :)

    6. Re:You Are A Spoiled Brat... by shepd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >Every action we make, everything we say, makes a statement about who we are.

      Oh, how true.

      So let's break some things down:

      The CEO? A vain, spinesless, mismanaging jerk. The action? Giving an idol of himself to others.

      The AC? A bit of a coward, angry, possibly wanting to go postal. The action? Telling the entire world how hard his CEO bites.

      You? A jerk in the highest order. The action? Pretending you are better than others.

      Feel free to say what you will about me. But I don't feel better than you, except perhaps in attitude.

      >Sure, the bobble-head was in poor taste, but complaining about the freebies you got, or complaining because you didn't get enough freebies is just plain childish.

      And if it were a flaming bag of shit left on the employee's doorstop, would he be obliged to send a thank you note to the CEO?

      Com'mon. It wasn't in poor taste the way hading a $0.10 candle out to someone as a christmas gift is in poor taste. It's nasty in the way giving a condom to a eunic for Christmas is a statement of your opinion of the person.

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    7. Re:You Are A Spoiled Brat... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't even have a clue what 65 million looks like let alone the intellegence to realize that you won't get 65 million from your "hard work" ever!

    8. Re:You Are A Spoiled Brat... by Y_A_Hacker · · Score: 1

      The author of this post may not have said it well, but he has a point, which is strengthened by the responses to this post and the fact that he was modded down. He has done the unfortunate deed of speaking the truth. The fact that he was modded down and that so many people have jumped on him just shows how "spoiled" (his word for it) many of us are and how we cannot look at our selves honestly. Instead of listening to what he says (and, as I said, he did not find the most tactful way of putting it), we call him a jerk and tell him to shut up. It is true that the topic asked about what kinds of gifts we got, but if you look at the poster said in the topic, it does seem like he is too busy complaining about what he doesn't like instead of letting it fly and focusing on the good things he has -- like a job at a company that is doing well enough to be able to afford a Christmas party. Perhaps if he had started the post with "I know someone will say I'm just a troll for saying this, but I think this story was posted by someone who is showing just how spoiled he is," then maybe people would have listened, instead of trying to just dismiss him because what he has said it too painful for many of us to hear. (As my cousin, a social worker, would say, perhaps some people are in denail that this person has actually described their own behaviour and they cannot deal with that.)

    9. Re:You Are A Spoiled Brat... by DarkVein · · Score: 2

      Constructive.

      He didn't say it well. His tirade was laced repeatedly with statements to "shut up," and "stop whining." I understand the moral sentiment you see, but his motivation was less noble.

      I can hear the emotion when both the AC and the asswipe wrote. The AC clearly rings of a "What The Hell? O_O" reaction. Our mutal aquaintance, Sir AssScratch above, is clearly spewing forth a flame. The nobler component of the flame is a wish that people would stop complaining, and apply that energy to better themselves (or at least make money). This is just a prop, however. The author's (Sir Scrotum's) motive is to convince himself and us that he is superior than the AC. The author percieved a flaw in the AC, and latched on to it like a lamprey to draw on every drop of ego he was able.

      I'm glad you saw the softer side. I don't think the author had benign intentions. If his mission was the truth, it wouldn't have been laced with derisive orders.

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    10. Re:You Are A Spoiled Brat... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You will not ever make 65 million a year, period. Not with your attitude.

    11. Re:You Are A Spoiled Brat... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Later she heard some employees complaining that the food wasn't that good -- yada, yada, yada. It never occured to them that the party cost $40 per person for the company to do.

      If a corporation spent $40 per employee to buy food which no one liked, I think it would be completely reasonable, as a member of a corporation, to be displeased with the decision, intentional or no, to have wasted that money rather than giving it to the employees directly or using it to better the company's state.

      The company is essentially giving you something just to be nice, yes. But if the thing they are giving you is not very nice, then that is an indication they do not value you very much-- leading for it to be reasonable for one to express displeasure with the current state of their relationship with the company, I.E. complain. It is altogether possible that this expression of displeasure, the complaining, is a first step toward leaving said company and finding or creating something better, as you would recommend.

      By not just chucking it into the garbage on your way out (or waiting and throwing it out later when nobody would see you), you are saying you would rather whine and moan than just deal with something and move on.

      By not just scrolling past this story on the slashdot front page, and instead deciding to open the story, hit "reply", and write an upset tirade, you are saying you would rather whine and moan than just deal with something and move on.

      If you believe the anonymous poster is "childish" for clicking a link on slashdot and writing one paragraph of level-headed but annoyed text because his employer insulted his dignity, what does that make you for clicking a link on slashdot and writing one page of whiny and annoyed text because you didn't like someone's slashdot story?

      Of course, to avoid a situation where any charges of hypocracy or childishness are levelled against me for my comments here, I will refrain from making any public judgements of my own, you butt-face.

      -- super ugly ultraman

    12. Re:You Are A Spoiled Brat... by dweezle · · Score: 1

      Trust me, they promise the moon, but amway doesn't really pay off for the vast majority

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  93. As a teacher... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got nothing.
    As usual.

    Oh, that's not quite true. I got a second job so I can continue to pay rent - an inexpensive 1-br apartment.

    Be thankful you got a bobble-head doll.

    (Of course, I CAN thank Apple, they gave me a free copy of Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar - thank you Apple!)

    1. Re:As a teacher... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enter into a real profession. Its not anyone else's fault that you entered into the dull world of Public Education.

    2. Re:As a teacher... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      are you the product of the public education system? how can you dare say its not a real profession?

    3. Re:As a teacher... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but you do get to fuck those 14 year old hot little schoolgirl bitches, right?
      C'mon, admit it Mikey. ;-)

  94. I'm getting a powerbook G4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In fact, I picked out the exact one with the specs I wanted, and it will be in my hands before Jan 1.

    I hope they'll throw in an iPod but I can understand if money is a little tight.

    Did I mention I'm self-employed?

    But seriously, why did you expect anything that wasn't in your employment agreement? Yeah yeah, the guys at the top give themselves bonuses out the wazoo, etc. But nobody makes you work for them, right?

  95. 47 of my friends got fired... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was fortunate enough to see the firestorm(he) coming and jump ship before hand. Although they made some cash because of the social plan.

    Could be worse...

  96. Fake Money in Exchance for Real Money by yoderm · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The worst company gift I've ever heard of happened to my cousin's husband. As his wedding gift, his boss got him a Target gift card for $100. Not bad, you think? Well, the next week he noticed that his paycheck was $100 short. The slimeball had docked him $100 of real money to get him a $100 gift card as a "present". Unreal.

    -Mike

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    1. Re:Fake Money in Exchance for Real Money by MsGeek · · Score: 2

      That sounds like something the Labor Relations Board would be very interested in hearing about. Even in America this is wildly illegal. Your cousin's husband should report his ass.

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    2. Re:Fake Money in Exchance for Real Money by yoderm · · Score: 1

      That's basically what I told him, too. But he didn't... and I live 2000 miles away and don't know him all that well, so I let it drop.

      -Mike

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  97. The things that irk me the most... by Burnon · · Score: 5, Insightful
    ... are that:
    • the company actually spends money on thousands of these promotional pieces of junk, money that could have instead been spent on the bottom line, or at least on something that isn't tossed, ignored, and useless.
    • someone in the company gets paid to come up with the idea of the bobble-head doll, and other pieces of promotional junk that your typical employee ignores
    I mean hey, a gift that shows that people in the company are thinking of you is nice, but these meaningless items reek of the "you are a number" philosophy. It seems like the bigger a company gets, the more likely that it is to generate this kind of landfill.
    1. Re:The things that irk me the most... by Acme+Mouse · · Score: 1

      I totally agree with you on both of your points. Here's my story of "promotional junk".

      My ex-employer promised us a performance bonus at the beginning of last year. For every month of the year, including the month of mass layoffs, our bonus was always going to be coming next month because of the "budget crunch".

      However, the severity of the budget crunch was not enough to prevent them from distributing those large foam hands with the index finger pointing up (the kind seen at sporting events and the like) with "CompanyName is #1" to every employee.

      Of course, I did find a use for it, being a creative employee. I did a little "surgery" and moved the foam finger over one position and modified the text to read "Our employees are #1" and proudly displayed it in my cubicle.

    2. Re:The things that irk me the most... by hfastedge · · Score: 1

      are you a trained surgeon that specialized in reconstructive foam?

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    3. Re:The things that irk me the most... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They say we're number one, but they treat us like number two.

      Is the boss so clucking fueless that he doesn't realize that this would only be used against him??

  98. Better than what I got. by forty_two · · Score: 2, Funny

    Laid off. :/

    Anybody need a perl guy? Will work for cheap! Real cheap.

    1. Re:Better than what I got. by frenetic3 · · Score: 1

      I think that it's pretty funny that the parent got modded "2, Funny" :P

      Asshole :)

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    2. Re:Better than what I got. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will you work for bobblehead dolls? If so, there may be someone who'll take you up on that offer.

    3. Re:Better than what I got. by forty_two · · Score: 1

      Who modded that up? Being laid off isn't funny, it sucks. Of course, coding for $10/hr with no bonuses nor even hope of bonuses sucks almost as bad.

      Maybe I should find a new line of work.

    4. Re:Better than what I got. by Xenographic · · Score: 1

      I wish I could s/un(employed)/$1/gi too... :/

  99. HAHAHA! by zogger · · Score: 1

    ---freeking hilarious! tell ya whut, sell it at a yardsale, take the cash, slip it in an envelope and mail it to the ceo with a little note "Here, you obviously need this more than me"

    heheheheheheh

    I make so little(really, joe poverty level, but the tradeoff is I get to live out in the country where it's very nice) I am just glad I still have ANY employment. I probably have to work christmas day as well. No christmas party or anything like that, that's really only for corporations, big businesses, etc. Count your blessings, the economy is tanking generally, official unemployment is 6%, real unemployment is most likely close to double that (maybe, probably)as they DON'T count people off unemployment insurance rolls.

    Still cracking up, a bubble head doll. Funniest thing I've heard of in quite a while. Hmm, there's always target shooting! That wiggly head make a nice target at the range! MUAHAHAHAHAA!

  100. Reapplication by alatesystems · · Score: 1

    I got to reapply for my job and find out right after Christmas if I get to keep it. Oh yeah, and a 15 dollar gift card to a local grocery store. Pretty funny.

  101. go home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm glad I get to go home for christmas. A lot of my "coworkers" are in Afghanistan right now.

  102. Christmas bonuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we call the little peppermints that appeared at the front desk after Thanksgiving "christmas bonuses". that;s about all we get.

  103. Apparently... by Yoquimbo · · Score: 1

    saving money for Christmas shopping means canning employees! I got CANNED for Christmas. Canned like a sardine. Like a pickle onion. Like one of those annoying stuffed mooses(sic?) that crappy souvenier stores flog!

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  104. Going downhill every year by The+Cyberwolfe · · Score: 1

    Let's see...the first major corp gave us a catalog to choose out of, each year with the company earned you more X-mas Ca$h for the catalog. When they re-combined with the parent company, it was a card.

    At my current job, last year was a company dinner at a nice steak house. This year, we get a full day off for Xmas Eve, instead of a half-day.

    The best I ever got? I worked for a gas station that gave us all monogrammed, logo'd Mini Mag-Lights.

    --

    --
    Ahh, I see you've decided to go psycho. Godspeed.
  105. So fix it! by mcgroarty · · Score: 1

    You know -- there are things you could do to that CEO's neck that'd make him move in much the same way...

  106. As an employee of county government...... by ONOIML8 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I got the usual.

    Nothing

    Zip

    Nada

    Not even a thank you.

    911 dispatch wants to know where to physically find me on xmas and new years tho in case communications go out as I am on call for that, without pay.

    Of course I would much rather have nothing compared to your gag gift doll. That's just sick.

    --
    . Quit playing Monopoly with Bill. Switch to one of many non-Microsoft products today.
  107. A lousy mug by spacefight · · Score: 2

    All we got (tinw) was a lousy mug, color something between white and grey printed with the anniversary of the company I work for. It wasn't even filled with candies or so, just a clean mug. I hate mugs.

    1. Re:A lousy mug by hitzroth · · Score: 2

      Where do you find a color between white and grey?

      --
      In mathematics, one does not understand things, one merely gets used to them.
      --VonNeumann
    2. Re:A lousy mug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      <body bgcolor="#DEADBEEF">

  108. Am I the only one? by sunking2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    who thinks that this is a totally made up troll of a submittal? I mean, a bobble head doll of the ceo? I find that extremely unlikely. Not to mention the ceo makes '65 million' crap that is added to try to make it even moer sensational. And if it's posted anonymously, why not a company name associated with it? Troll troll troll...

    1. Re:Am I the only one? by Kymermosst · · Score: 2

      I agree. I thought it was a bit ridiculous, as well.

      Gimme a break... a bobblehead of the CEO? I find that hard to believe, unless it's a company that makes bobbleheads... then it might be true.

      --
      "Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives" should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
    2. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      From other posts, the company seems to be Oracle.

    3. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I thought as much at first also but you know? I've worked at some mid sized companies, the ones that are growing, getting to about the $1bill in revenue size and can afford to pay a CEO like that but are small enough and have few enough people in power to actually pay a CEO like that. They are out there and the people in those companies seem to idolize the pricks running the show, I'm serious.

      I think it's believable, not everywhere but it's definitely possible. With the bobble head collectors and all, I could easily see some executive staff doing this and spinning it like it was an exclusive that would be worth a lot of money to somebody. It's a really cheap gimmick that they can play off like it's worth more than it is. The alternative is the underwater stock options. They did that at my last place, they play it out like they are giving you these great stock options, strike was $40, street price of the stock? $17. The year before they gave these metal medalions with the company logo on them. I'm not sure what's worse.

      If you think they are obligated to give you something then it sucks, if you look at as a job and your pay is what you get then it's nice that they thought of you. In this economy, you're lucky to get anything, seriously. I don't know of any companies that are just burning up money because they are doing so well.

    4. Re:Am I the only one? by Zeinfeld · · Score: 3, Interesting
      who thinks that this is a totally made up troll of a submittal?

      I was thinking that if we don't know the company name after 00 odd posts then it must be a troll. The chances that there would be only one slashdotter working at a company whose CEO makes $60 big ones...

      However, I now know what to get the staff for Xmas...

      --
      Looking for an Information Security student project suggestion?
      Try http://dotcrimeManifesto.com/
    5. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Post a pic of the doll.

    6. Re:Am I the only one? by John+Harrison · · Score: 2
      If it is Oracle, you can be sure that Larry would have an easier time going a year without pay than many of the employees would have going without a raise or bonus.

      Of course it seems appropriate that a CEO that is well known for his toys would give one out for Christmas. The odd thing is that his toys are Mig fighters and racing sail boats.

    7. Re:Am I the only one? by CormacJ · · Score: 2

      Then again in the 1980's recession in the UK I was worked for a company whose timeline went like this:

      December 1: All directors get new company cars - Top line Saabs, and Jaguars
      December 5: Same directors annouce that the company is short on cash, won't be issuing christmas bonuses, no wage rises in the new year. (Notice who probably got thier bonus)

    8. Re:Am I the only one? by utherdoul · · Score: 1
      As mentioned in my earlier post, I'm looking to write something about this for the magazine I work for... I've done a little research, and oracle denies that it was them. So either this message was a troll; it's another company entirely; or Oracle is confused/lying/clueless (your pick).

      If anyone knows for certain WHICH company gave out bobble heads, email me at dewalt@cmp.com. Needless to say, i'd love to see a picture of the thing, too.

  109. Now hopefully.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..you'll get a BB gun for xmas. Then xmas day, you can blow it's little bobbling head off.

    That'll make you feel much better..

  110. I finish next week, you insenstive clod! :) by MonTemplar · · Score: 2

    (Damn the subject line limit!)

    I'll get mine in cash, mind.

    MT.

    --
    -MT.
  111. Expectations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    What sort of society is this? Christmas is a time for sweetness, light, forgiveness yada yada yada. I'm the biggest "Bah Humbug!" there is, but in no way do I expect a random co-worker to supply me with the gift of my dreams


    Today's workplace is an important social structure, but I wouldn't expect it to take the place of real friends and family - and hence I wouldn't expect it to provide me with expensive, soul-enriching presents at christmas time

  112. Quepee Doll by EverDense · · Score: 3, Funny

    Kit yourself out like this and buy some sewing needles.

    --
    http://jesus.everdense.com/
  113. tv by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I switch on, and darkness gives way
    to colour. Seen this film, is anything else on?
    Press the button and the picture changes
    to distant suffering. Millions dead,
    yawn, saw this earlier. Press it again.
    Ads? I'll watch for a while. Maybe
    there'll be something on in a minute.

  114. What I got by AntiTuX · · Score: 5, Funny

    I got laid-off from AOL/Time warner. In the folder with the severance package paperwork, they had the audacity to put an AOL cd. I shit you not. I was really fucking offended by that.

    Funny thing is, is this was just the kick in the ass I needed to get the hell out of the tech field anyhow. Sometimes you just hit your artistic and creative limits, and need to move on.

  115. we had... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2

    a nice party (as usual) w/ valet parking.
    Oh...and some companies ARE giving bonuses. Our fiscal year ends in March, so Apr 1 will deliver a 6% bonus. The irony of it being April Fool's day is not lost on the bosses.

    1. Re:we had... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here, we are getting(if all goes well) a 20% bonus in March. My wife wants me to move to another state and get a new job. After reading all these posts, I'm wondering if that will even be possible. Sounds like I've got it pretty sweet.

  116. Glad I have a job by kyoko21 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am thankful that I have a job. And for those that do not, visit odd todd.

  117. what I got for x-mas by t0rnt0pieces · · Score: 1, Informative

    We all got $25 gift certificates to the supermarket. Now that is what I call cheap. I won't mention the name of the company where I work, but here at the Red Cross (damn, it slipped) they are the tightest company I ever worked for. Yeah yeah, I know they are a charity, but keep in mind that no one wants to work for free, and I work for the blood services division as a lab tech. They pay us around $14 an hour to test blood. They test thousands of units each day and each one gets sold, not donated, for around $120. Our division is non-profit in name only, they make money hand over fist. I don't think we're even having a Christmas party. Just last week our lab made a certain goal, and the Director of Testing told us he was going to have a party when we hit the goal. Well we hit the goal and he's not giving us the promised party because he couldn't get permission to expense it! Bastards.

    --
    Karma: Excellent (In Soviet Russia, karma pimps YOU)
  118. It's not what you get, but what you give. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This year, I got my boss a nice present. I went in her office, shut the door, closed the blinds, and fucked her brains out.

    Quit being so selfish you little snotnosed BITCH.

  119. Mod that up! +5 Funny! by margaret · · Score: 1

    Damn, I just used my last mod point on another story!

  120. I made of pretty well... by breasor · · Score: 1

    I feel sorry for everyone who got jacked. But to make you feel worse, I got bombed drinking some very fine spirits, had an excellent dinner, and a free ride home.

    Oh yeah...I also got a $500 bonus check...perhaps I'll pick up an iPod

  121. Potluck lunch and a coat drive by jsimon12 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    We had a potluck lunch and a coat drive, which is the exact opposite of what we had during the .com boom, which was a mega bash (rented a hotel, the whole hotel and boozed it up till the weeee hours) and a nice heafty bonus. So I guess all I recieved this year was my job.

    1. Re:Potluck lunch and a coat drive by mwise · · Score: 1

      So you shared things with your co-workers and helped those less fortunate. This seems alot more in tune with "holiday" spirit than any of our boom-time booze-ups. If I had a job I'd be pleased and proud to participate in a clebration like that.

  122. Better than... by W.+Justice+Black · · Score: 1

    One company I used to work for handed out copies of the CEO's autobiography. At least the bobble-head doll is kinda funny.

    --
    "Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana." --Groucho Marx
    1. Re:Better than... by Laplace · · Score: 2

      The best place for that book? Next to the shitters at work. The company wins too, since they are saving on toilet paper.

      --
      The middle mind speaks!
  123. Hang on to those bobble head dolls--- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    in a few years, after the CEO gets indicted for securities fraud, insider trading, what-have-you, it might be worth a few bucks on eBay. :-)

  124. What are these... "bonuses" you speak of? by mcgroarty · · Score: 1
    In an economy like this one, anything extra is pretty rare. The original poster's insult wasn't exactly one of the worst either... I lie not: One of my California ex-dot-com-now-McDonald's-working buddies just got two McDonald's coupon books for his bonus.

    Great. He said he'll "save 'em for St. Patrick's day and see what the green shake tastes like from the other side of the counter."

  125. It could be worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My girlfriend just got sent to prison for drugs.

    1. Re:It could be worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what happens when you're a crack ho

  126. Michael's anger.... by hackus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Look at it this way Mike, you got a Bobble Head doll and he got ONLY 65 Million...

    Just be thankful the guy doesn't end up biling you out of your retirement as well... :-)

    -Hack

    PS: Take a pay cut and send it too the guy and plead with him NOT too...after all, he probably is working on his third home and that employee 401K/Retirement plan probably looks pretty juicy!

    --
    Got Geometrodynamics? Awe, too hard to figure out? Too bad.
  127. Yuck by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2

    Instead of the bobble, I'd rather the CEO just walk around and hand out a $10 bill each. Sounds like a marketing type came up with that idea.

    1. Re:Yuck by Tsuzuki · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but giving out the bobble heads doesn't equate to ten-dollar bills... your average bobble head isn't worth more than a US dollar. I say this as someone designing that crap for a living. :)

      Thankfully, I think they've spared us the counterfeit sunglasses, dead pens and desktop clocks this year... a drinks night, a day out and a barbecue have been just fine. No real days off for the holidays, but meh... that's asking too much of this place.

  128. Free pizza by Ratbert42 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I got free pizza when we worked all weekend. Oh, and we all got our pre-Christmas vacations cancelled.

    1. Re:Free pizza by chrysrobyn · · Score: 2

      How's the weather in VT?

      -- TX

  129. Make Money Fast doesn't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just a friendly reminder...

  130. Business plan by sohp · · Score: 1, Funny

    1. Pass out bobble-head dolls of the CEO to all employees.
    2. ...
    3. PROFIT!!

    1. Re:Business plan by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

      1. Pass out bobble-head dolls of the CEO to all employees.
      2. ...
      3. PROFIT!!


      OMG I about peed in my undies. I wonder how many others actually get it. SP rules.
      __________________________

      --
      Tequila: It's not just for breakfast anymore!
    2. Re:Business plan by marko123 · · Score: 1

      I think you came in a little late on this one buddy. But SP does rule.

      --
      http://pcblues.com - Digits and Wood
    3. Re:Business plan by greenrd · · Score: 1, Flamebait
      You're a sad case, do you know that?

  131. Glasses by Deathlizard · · Score: 2

    Well, we got two short glasses with our company logo on them. They should go nicely will the two tall glasses with our company logo I got Last year

    Next year I hope I get two glass plates with our company logo on them to complete the set.

  132. Is your company hiring??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about a link? Of course the first resume submitted should mention First Post...

  133. New CEOs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So did I, and the first thing he did was to say that he PERSONALLY had to sign off on everyones' christmas bonus (amongst other things)!

  134. I'm just happy to have a job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got a steaming cup of jack squat. But that's what I get for going to Grad school. My wife who teaches highschool will also recieve jack. So dont' think cause you have a job you deserve a bonus for nothing more then showing up for work all year. A great deal of us show up for work without a bonus.

  135. Bobble Heads must be popular by suraklin · · Score: 1

    I am currently underemployed (normally a Net admin) driving a forklift at a distribution wharehouse for a home improvement store. They have a very annoying commercial mascot. A bobble head of this annoying man was sent out to the employees(this company sounds alot like MY NARDS, which is what they can suck for giving such unadulterated crap). We also get a gift certificate to one of their stores of varying amounts depending how long one has been with the company(another craptacular gift that costs them almost nothing).

  136. IN SOVIET RUSSIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    WE RECEIVE 100% RAISE IN WAGES...FOLLOWED BY A 50% DEVALUATION OF THE RUBLE BY THE CENTRAL BANK

    1. Re:IN SOVIET RUSSIA by w9ofa · · Score: 1

      There was a factory sign that said
      "Thank you for working"
      Seriously!

    2. Re:IN SOVIET RUSSIA by WetCat · · Score: 1

      You mean that
      IN UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
      WE RECEIVE 100% LOWERING IN WAGES, FOLLOWED
      BY A 50% VALUATION OF THE DOLLAR BY THE CENTRAL BANK?
      Uh oh... it's much worse...

    3. Re:IN SOVIET RUSSIA by fdisk3hs · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, CEO gets bobble-head doll of YOU. :) LR

  137. Measurement matters as much as the bonus itself by gregwbrooks · · Score: 5, Informative
    I work for a small (non-I.T.) consulting firm, and as one of the senior folks I *might* get a bonus this year. Maybe. If the boss feels like it and if doing so will reduce the amoung of corporate income taxes she pays.

    My point: You can bonus me $1.98 for the year if you feel like it, but nail it to some objective performance measurement.

    Memo to management: You want better results? Give people something to aim for and then clearly explain what the reward is for exceeding goals.

    (Now, having said all that, I have to add: The bobblehead thing would have had me sending out resumes in a heartbeat. It's one thing for management to lack clues; it's another thing entirely for them to be mean-spirited.

    --


    "It was a summer's tale: Just a boy, his Linux, and a head full of dreams..."
    1. Re:Measurement matters as much as the bonus itself by WetCat · · Score: 1

      It does not work for me - my performance is the same if I am promised anything or not and only can decrease if bosses pisses me off.

    2. Re:Measurement matters as much as the bonus itself by gregwbrooks · · Score: 2
      I've thought of that too -- I think it's one of those things where "there are two types of people in the world..."

      In this case: Those who are motivated by pay-for-performance and those who aren't. I can respect both views.

      In my job, a 50-60 hour week (salaried) is baseline. There might be some saintly souls who are willing to bump that up to 70-80 per week without a financial light at the end of the tunnel, but not me.

      --


      "It was a summer's tale: Just a boy, his Linux, and a head full of dreams..."
    3. Re:Measurement matters as much as the bonus itself by Dr.+Bent · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It has been my experience that poor managers do not employ this seemingly useful and effective technique for three reasons:

      1) They don't have enough understanding of the business market/human resources/financial situation to know if a given set of goals are reasonable.

      2) They don't know the work routine of their employees enough to tell when one person has contributed more than another, and

      3) They certianly don't know enough about it to codify a reward system months in advance of the actual competion of the work.

      This is particularly common in small companies with rapidly shifting company goals and projects.

    4. Re:Measurement matters as much as the bonus itself by CynicTheHedgehog · · Score: 2

      That's kind of difficult to do in some fields, like programming. Measure ratio of successful projects? I'm 1 for 8 on internal projects due to poor management (moving targets, last minute changes to the data model, loss of interest, ...). Lines of code? Well I win there, but I'll be the first to say that quantity does not imply quality (although in my case I should hope it does). What else is there? Number of followup phone calls? Pages of documentation? It's really hard to be objective in cases such as that, because there are so many contributing factors, few of which employees have any control over.

      Personally, I'm in a position where I have a buttload of responsibilities (scheduling meetings, creating project plans, writing documentation, getting sign-off, following up, ...) but no power (I'm on the lowest wrung of the corporate ladder and have 6 levels of management on top of me). I just try to make it known that I'm trying and hope to get an 'E' for effort.

      Luckily our Christmas bonuses are determined by the length of time we've been with the company, which, given layoffs and firings, is not such a bad indicator of effort.

      I'm not complaining...it's just that sometimes effort can't be quantified.

    5. Re:Measurement matters as much as the bonus itself by gregwbrooks · · Score: 2
      Damned good point -- I'm probably a Pointy Headed Boss in at least one regard: I often forget that not everyone lives in my WorkWorld.(tm)

      It's probably an overly utopian, free-market solution, but I've often thought that giving every employee a goal of "billable" time -- that is, time connected to a project that is determined to be potentially profitable to the company -- would be a good start. Then, managers could engage employees against that block of time. The most valued/skillful employees would ahve a lot of requests on their time, but would make or exceed their billable goal, becoming eligilble for a bonus.

      Of course, this would also likely set all employees up in a deathmatch competition for management's favor/hours. Not great for morale, but it might help to separate out the deadwood.

      --


      "It was a summer's tale: Just a boy, his Linux, and a head full of dreams..."
    6. Re:Measurement matters as much as the bonus itself by fwoomer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now, having said all that, I have to add: The bobblehead thing would have had me sending out resumes in a heartbeat.

      Really? It would have had me shoving its plastic head up its plastic ass and mailing it to the CEO with a note that said something to the effect of-

      Dear Mr. CEO:

      You got the design all wrong. *This* is more accurate. Please make a note of it for next year. It's these kinds of mistakes that can cost the company its image. As a professional organization, we comport ourselves to the highest level of standards.

      Love,
      fwoomer.

    7. Re:Measurement matters as much as the bonus itself by sysadmn · · Score: 2

      P.S. You misspelled your boss' name.

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      Envy my 5 digit Slashdot User ID!
  138. Bonus? by Janus58 · · Score: 1

    What's a bonus? My employer has never given out bonuses, and never will. But, since I don't expect one, it's not a let down. I suppose it's different if you're relying on getting one.

  139. Here's your bonus. Now, do some work! by tealcrow7 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Every year we receive a different style of Bic "clicky" pen with the company logo on it. I've started a display on my wall with each pen and the year it was received. Pretty pathetic now that I stop and think about it.

  140. What did I get ???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The chance to watch 95% of the software team I work with get the boot !

  141. My company by standards · · Score: 2

    Where I work, non-executives got a 10% "holiday/end-of-year" bonus, because we made the numbers we were expected to make.

    Not too bad.

    Executives did not get the 10% holiday bonus.... but then again, they get a lot of hidden bonuses and perks.

  142. Our boss by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 2

    Hosted an xmas party at his house for the staff. Thought it was a pretty nice gesture. Only two problems: It's hell-and-far-gone from where I live (3 hours round-trip), and I was sick as a dog.

    I didn't go. But the thought was nice.

    N.

    --
    "Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence." - Charles de Gaulle
  143. An opportunity! by davecl · · Score: 1

    Surely this is the ideal opportunity to learn voodoo and with an ideal practice subject!

  144. Christmas bonus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    No Christmas bonus (yet), and I don't really expect one. The company hasn't met the sales forecast and isn't profitable, and although we're not in dire straights yet, I don't expect them to give us a bonus, and don't really want them to. In fact, we've got a shutdown for Dec. 23-Jan. 1, for which we must take vacation or unpaid leave except for three days of holiday, but software and QA are exempted, so I could work if I wanted to.

    Given how many of my friends who had good jobs in engineering have become unemployed this year, or have had to take lousy jobs for low pay, I'm quite happy to still have a good job at a decent salary.

    If they gave me a bobble-head doll of the CEO, I'd be pissed of, but because they wasted the money, not because I thought I should have gotten a better bonus.

    If the company's situation improves next year, and we actually make a profit, it would certainly be nice if they did give us a bonus, or throw a nice party. But a bonus is a gift that should be freely given by the company, not something that employees should have a right to expect.

    On a mostly unrelated note, at the company meeting this week we had a white elephant gift exchange. Out of about forty-five gifts in the exchange (which were supposed to cost under $5 each), there were only six gifts I thought were reasonably nice: two bottles of wine (which I don't drink), a brass desk set, a candy dish (glass or cystal, I didn't look at it) and a book and a CD which I already have. The rest were pretty grim. Two people wrapped up packages of cookies out of the free snack machine at work, and one person wrapped up a single dry erase market. The one I got was arguably even less worthwhile: a 1989 Fodor's travel guide for Yugoslavia. But the gift I entered wasn't a whole lot better, so I can't complain. That's the nature of a white elephant gift exchange.

  145. I'm so sick of that crap by AbRASiON · · Score: 1, Interesting

    HR teams who are convinced the team would love "balloons" across the room or something rather than a cash incentive.

    I worked in a very small team in an ISP helpdesk for about 18 months, during that period of time at one point the company which owned us opted to spend 600$ (AUD) on helium filled balloons, some cake and some bottles of coke for the team for morale / congratulations purposes.

    Now since there was only 16 team members total, I felt quite pissed that they simply didn't get me a 20$ voucher, 20$ cash, 2 movie tickets or something else.

    When will companies learn that MONEY TALKS to some people - there's no better pat on the back than someone saying "here we like you, we respect you and to reward you we will pay you a little more"
    20$ isn't much but it's better than a desk covered with fucking balloons.

    Damn HR departments.....

    1. Re:I'm so sick of that crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HR departments are often at the mercy of executives who have "brilliant ideas" that *must* be implemented (no matter how much you try and talk them out of it).

      A lot of HR people fall into the Dilbert category rather that the Catbert category.

  146. CEO's fault? by pkiguruman · · Score: 1

    I'm not trying to shift blame from the CEO, but I think it would be more likely to pin this one on some guy high up in the marketing dept. trying to kiss up to the CEO

  147. At least you didn't have to pay to go.... by DrJohnnie · · Score: 1

    It cost me $40 just to go to the company party!

    The company did kick in about half for the party, and they had door prizes. But, no one got a bonus. (or, no one at my level got a bonus...)

  148. A Voodoo doll ? Great by terminal.dk · · Score: 1

    I don't know who wishes the CEO so much bad, but with so many Voodoo dolls out there, he will probably have to resign before the end of the year.

  149. Carpal Tunnel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I get to spend Christmas Day in front of a computer coding away for the 'Man'.

  150. Of course hes entitled by nurb432 · · Score: 2

    Its HIS company, he can paint the walls pink and wear fuzzy slippers if he wants ..

    It may be counterproductive *and* ruin moral, but hes entitled to do whatever he pleases, as long as its legal..

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    ---- Booth was a patriot ----
    1. Re:Of course hes entitled by spanky555 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but if he's only the CEO, it's not *necessarily* his company. Plus, he has a responsibility to the shareholders, and honestly, I don't see how he managed to justify that expense for so little obvious return - it's bound to blow up in his face...CEOs have and should get ousted over things like this.

    2. Re:Of course hes entitled by rela · · Score: 1
      Its HIS company, he can paint the walls pink and wear fuzzy slippers if he wants

      The stockholders own the company, not the CEO. A CEO can own alot or even all of the stock, but he doesn't automatically, and most often he doesn't. The positon of CEO is as much an employee of the company as is the janitor that empties his wastebasket. He has a job: To increase shareholder value. I don't see how making up bobble-heads of himself for all the other employees increases that.

    3. Re:Of course hes entitled by scotch · · Score: 2

      And the employees are entitled to bitch about it. Yada yada yada. Tell us something we don't know.

      --
      XML causes global warming.
  151. I got the best bonus this year..... by Arislan · · Score: 1

    UNEMPLOYMENT..the gift that gives weekly!

  152. quit yackin' and complainin' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you sound like a little whiney pussy. SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH YOU BITCH!!! you desperately need to have your ass kicked, and then RAPED by a rather large and smelly nigger. you should be grateful you're employed. there are those of us who are less fortunate so QUIT SHOOTING YOUR MOTHERFUCKING MOUTH OFF i hope you get your skull bashed in you pathetic son of a bitch. if you don't like your gift, then you can just fuck off. FFFFFFUUUUUCKKKKKKK YYYOOOOOOUUUUUUU!!!!!!

    Sincerely,
    Your CEO

  153. Gee, I wish that I got a bobble head doll! by leonbev · · Score: 2

    Like last year, I'll be getting nothing but extra work assignments for Christmas. All of the "lifers" and pointy-haired bosses usually use the rest of their five weeks or so of vacation at the end of the year, which means that I end up covering their projects while they're gone. Oh well, at least it's quiet in the office around the holidays.

    I'd imagine that most people in the IT industry got simularly screwed, so it probably isn't work complaining about it. At least you can sell your Larry Ellison bobble head doll on eBay, or just use it for target practice.

  154. Stop crying! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what, you got a stupid doll. STFU and stop your balling. What makes you think you should get anything other than a paycheck?

    The company you work for needs to throw you out on your silly ass and hire someone who's not going to be bothered enough to write /. when he get's a stupid doll as a Christmas bonus.

    So, they didn't validate your parking. How much free food did you shovel into your fat belly is what I want to know?

    Wha fucking wha!

  155. Shitty Christmas Party Gifts by Laplace · · Score: 2

    I kid you not: a steel bolt and a used rat trap. From my boss. Thankfully he threw the rat away before wrapping the trap up. Asshole.

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    The middle mind speaks!
    1. Re:Shitty Christmas Party Gifts by hitzroth · · Score: 2

      You work for a pawn shop. In Arkansas. Am I right? Are my prejudices showing?

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      In mathematics, one does not understand things, one merely gets used to them.
      --VonNeumann
  156. that's great by jdkane · · Score: 2

    A "bobblehead of the CEO" is just hilarious. He must have a big head too. =) I can't imagine anybody having a that high of an opinion of themsevles to think everybody else would like a doll. Heck, it took over 2000 years to get a Jesus Christ action figure (we have them here in Toronto anyways). Usually any type of momument made to somebody is reserved for other people to do after the person dies. Is your boss maybe dying of something?

  157. Voodoo by adb · · Score: 2

    Did you get any of his hair or spit with the doll? Perhaps they were being considerate of your feelings after all.

  158. Whe I get for christmas by ravenswood1000 · · Score: 1

    A hard dick and some bubble gum. Thats all you get

  159. Nothing nearly as interesting... by Benjamin_L · · Score: 1
    though we did recieve a frozen turkey (given to all employees) and a jacket emblazoned with the company shield (only to management). The jackets are key since our warehouse is the same temperature as outside, which is a wee bit nippy.

    All I can say is "thank goodness!" they took away our water coolers in September! Who needs hydration when you've got style and fowl?

  160. Jeez, I wish I could get PISSED on the company. by Moderation+abuser · · Score: 2

    The term "pissed" in the UK refers to the state of being smashed out of your skull on whichever booze is available. However in today's politically correct times, that's not an option.

    That's the best present a company can give it's employees at christmas. Think of it as team building.

    Lets PARTY!

    --
    Government of the people, by corporate executives, for corporate profits.
  161. Oh Joy... by gevauden · · Score: 1

    I got... rostered to work Christmas day.
    Just what I always wanted.

    --
    So damn witty, they only let me use half.
  162. Wow... a head of your CEO??? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

    Wish I'd have gotten one.

    Now that the IT market is in the crapper, our company probably feels obliged to the stockholders to cut expenses a bit. Unfortunately bonuses were done away with years ago (when the market was great, go figure), so they cannot cut those. So... we don't get any raises, for the second year in a row. That kinda hurts; the inflation over last two years was 4,5% anually. Oh yes, we should be happy to have a job, right? Well, soon a number of us won't have one; there's another round of layoffs coming on top of the last one.

    Funnily enough, in this terrible market our company is still making a profit in IT! We're outperforming most or all of our competitors, and the thank-you we got from the company was just that: a letter from the CEO thanking us.

    My real worry is how long our profitability will last though. This may piss of everyone to the point that they'll start leaving. While management may think that they'll get rid of some headcount for free, it'll be the good people leaving, the ones that are 1) competent, and 2) chargable, ie. they bring in more than they cost. The good ones go first because they'll have little trouble finding jobs in other companies.

    The point to my little rant? Nothing... except keeping your employees happy is important and has an associated cost, same as renting the building, greasing palms of the clients, and what have you. To all you people who say "be glad you have a job, whiner", I say this: pissing the employees off hurts the company as well. If you hope for a big effort from them to turn things around when times are bad, you would do well to motivate them rather than fob them off.

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  163. My wild flying guess of which CEO... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MS CEO and Chief Software Thief...I mean Architect Bill Gates. Remember, he's still CEO...Ballmer is President.

  164. I can top that by Trinition · · Score: 2

    3 years ago, we got big bonuses. The year after that, we got $50 gift certificates. Last year, we got nothing. This year, we got laid off. Now quit complaining!

  165. Just a dinner by Billly+Gates · · Score: 3, Interesting
    But considering its a small bussiness with less then 10 employees and not to mention the owner is paying for the dinner that cost 5 grand out of his own pocket, its not bad.

    Especially considering that companies must lower costs. If it was a bigger company then it might be different....oh and I only get christmass day off. I guess thats the down part.

  166. suggestion! by larry+bagina · · Score: 2, Funny
    hey, just drill enlarge the mouth a bit, lube it up, and let him bobble away.

    Then, the CEO can suck your dick for a change!

    --
    Do you even lift?

    These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.

  167. Money Clip by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 2

    I got a money clip last year.

    --
    "Things are more moderner than before- bigger, and yet smaller- it's computers-- San Dimas High School football RULES!"
    1. Re:Money Clip by hitzroth · · Score: 2

      Remember: it's only irony if you get laid off this year.

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      In mathematics, one does not understand things, one merely gets used to them.
      --VonNeumann
    2. Re:Money Clip by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 2

      hehe... that was good ;)

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      "Things are more moderner than before- bigger, and yet smaller- it's computers-- San Dimas High School football RULES!"
  168. Hmm...No Bonus? by da_Den_man · · Score: 2, Redundant

    I would say you are overlooking the one single fact that has been brought up time and again in this forum so far (so mod me down for Redundancy):

    You get your 'bonus' everytime you get paid.

    You get your 'bonus' everytime you can take a day off from work because you are sick...knowing you can just chalk it up to 'sick leave' and still get paid for that day

    Your bonus is not having to worry about anything breaking because you don't know where the money would come from to fix it, or when it would even BE fixed.

    Your 'bonus' is knowing that on Monday, you get to go to work.

    I will trade you in a minute for your bonus...if it comes with a real job.

    --
    You keep going until you die..."Me".
    1. Re:Hmm...No Bonus? by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 2

      What, is the big boss-man doing me a favor by giving me a job? Silly me, I thought it was because I filled a need that they had. My salary is a biweekly paycheck with bennies like vacation, sick days, and a 401k. I expect that my job will still be here tomorrow and, frankly, I can't see how you can live with a job so uncertain that you don't know from one day to the next if you will be working.

      A bonus is a way for the company to thank me for my hard work. The crap you describe is what unions fought so hard to end.

      --
      "We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
  169. Other Stupid Ideas by RWarrior(fobw) · · Score: 2
    I once worked at a large cell phone company where, instead of spreading money around to us mere mortals or dropping it to the bottom line (because the company was, at the time, bleeding green), they bought mirrors.

    That's right. Mirrors.

    These mirrors were placed on the desks in the call center next to every computer, and on them were printed the words, "They hear what you see!"

    I'm very tall, compared to most ordinary people. In my standard working position, I couldn't see exactly what the wizards who dreamed up this nonsense thought I should see.

    "They can hear my nipples?" I asked my supervisor.

    --
    Remove the caps and hold to a mirror.
    1. Re:Other Stupid Ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, make intelligent use of the mirrors.

      It's perfect to see if the boss is sneaking up on you...

  170. a message to the laid off people by logic7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    hey, all you folks complaining about getting laid off and mentioning that this guy should be glad to have received the fscking gift. get real. the poster was asking *employed* people for their comments.

    what you people are doing here is like saying "sure your wife is ugly but at least you have a wife. be grateful".

    and yes, i expect an ipod as a company gift. :)

    1. Re:a message to the laid off people by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      hey, all you folks complaining about getting laid off....what you people are doing here is like saying "sure your wife is ugly but at least you have a wife"...

      Now there's a gift idea: a paper bag with eye holes.

  171. Bonuses? by Chrome-Dragon · · Score: 1

    I got $240 bonus check and a $25 gift cert to the local supermarket.

    Bonuses are calculated at 230 + 10$ for every 5 years with the company (I've been there six years). The gift cert replaced the need to get us a ham or a turkey in their eyes. But we used to get bonuses in the 700-1500$ range, a ham, and a party with open bar. You could bring a guest and it was at this nice country club so I am guessing 80$-100$ value before bar tab per employee.

  172. Nothing. by ealar+dlanvuli · · Score: 2

    My IT department decided to turn all of our christmas bonuses into a tax deductable donation to charity. They of course give us the ability to provide input as to which charity they will choose, but we cannot ask to get cash ourselves (why would anyone do that!).

    I personally think it's disgusting.

    --
    I live in a giant bucket.
  173. OK, my guess sucked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Heh, Larry Ellison. The Shogun of Software himself. My Gates guess was way off. Still, the idea of a Billy G bobblehead is funnier. Or even better...a skating BillG doll! That falls down all the time! AHHAAAHAHAHAHA!!!

    1. Re:OK, my guess sucked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but Gates is only an asshole. He is not an insane egomaniac. If I had a dollar for every issue of Oracle Magazine with ELLISON on the cover, he'd be competing with me for richest man.

  174. United Parcel Service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a low level wharehouse worker at UPS, I got a 14lb turkey. My freezer isn't very big so I better start cooking these things....

    1. Re:United Parcel Service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck me, I got one of those when I worked at UPS too.

      My roommate and I both got frozen turkeys that year as "bone-us-s" from our respective shit jobs. We didn't have any room in the freezer for anything else but frozen goddamned turkeys.

    2. Re:United Parcel Service by Schik · · Score: 1

      I'm a vegetarian, so that wouldn't appeal much to me. Do you know if they had alternatives for their vegetarian employees? Perhaps even something that wouldn't offend them? Just curious.

  175. More work... by Belgand · · Score: 2

    I got a week full of tests, papers, projects and general work. Not only do I not get a party or a bonus I don't even get paid. I have to pay the school for the privilege of being able to get more work.

    I understand the resentment at having to pay for parking to attend some worthless company party and recieve tacky, self-serving gifts. I'd feel the same way. Students don't even get that chance though. We're busting our asses right now to study for finals and finish up projects. Feel free to complain, but don't forget that some of us (unemployed and/or college students) are even worse off than you are.

    Then again, most of us probably couldn't even afford the parking.

  176. Make it a photoshop contest by bubblegoose · · Score: 2

    You should tell your story and submit a picture of the doll and a real picture of the CEO to a Fark.com or somethingawful.com photoshop contest.

    Make sure he sees the thread after the photoshoppers get ahold of this.

    For more fun redirect your INTERNAL DNS so the intranet and external site redirects to the thread.

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    I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people. - Jack Handey
  177. bah humbug by Fraew · · Score: 1

    haven't had a christmas bonus in 3 years (which was actually the first year at my company, and i'd only been working 3 weeks!)...

    we've tightened up - the age old excuse that were too big for christmass pressies now... but meh, i don't complain, its not as if christmas really matters anyway

  178. Funny thing is that Larry Ellison is Jewish!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So an Xmas bonus from him is especially inappropriate. My worst gifts would be a) a bottle of chili-pepper flakes, and b) one of those 99 cent sponge/nerf puzzles that you assemble into a cube. For fucks sake, they GIVE those away at tradeshows. Anyway, maybe Larry was sad at being mutinied from his own racing boat, hence the ego boosting bobble heads.

  179. mixed messages by painehope · · Score: 1

    1) the new CEO can shit out the cash to rent a ballroom to give a "Hi, my name is ${whatever}, and let's some arrange some deck chairs on the Titanic" speech, but we can't cough up enough money to have a christmas party. The humorous part is that the speech ballroom was in the same hotel we had our christmas party last year.
    2) a potluck christmas party? yeah, we'll be lucky if someone doesn't poison the food...
    3) bonus? yeah right...the oldtimers talk about them, but I've never actually seen one.
    at least I didn't get one of those dolls...I would have burned it as an effigy, right after submitting my 2 weeks noticing and smashing in that asshole's luxury car's windows.

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    PC moderators can suck my White pierced, tattooed dick. If you think pride == hate, s/dick/Aryan meat mallet/g.
  180. for who by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We had our office Christmas party last week. We (the employees) were told beforehand that it would be a "combined" Christmas party for both the clients and us. The employees ended up working all night at the party but we had a good time anyways. Telling us that it was a combind party could be construed as a bit of a dirty trick because it was obviously for the clients. But it could be argued either way; it was just "different" this year. We understand that the business really needs to get some contracts and money, so we are okay with it. Otherwise we might not have a company to work at next year.

  181. Christmas bonus?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess that if the unemployment agency allows me to file an extension at the end of December then that'll be my Christmas bonus.

  182. I got Laid off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My boss buys a new 4000 square foot house, hires 2 of his old friends, and lays me off for christmas.

    Merry Christmas,
    Colin

  183. Something healthy by Longjmp · · Score: 1

    We had a christmas banket I remember well.
    After they had distributed all the nice gadgets (they got from customers, of course, not that they bought any) to the managers, there was a fruit plate (with fruits) left.

    I got a single lychee. No kidding.

    --
    There are fewer illiterates than people who can't read.
  184. My Company Did Okay by LucidityZero · · Score: 1

    I got a new cell phone (Motorolla T720 - 256 color display and stuff) and an extremely nice jacket from Lands End with the company logo on it. We've only been around for a year, so I am personaly extemely pleased. I wasn't expecting anything. Unless your contract guarantees a bonus, you shouldn't expect anything at all, I think.

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    Sig.i>
  185. Go work for a Swiss bank... by ssclift · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One year, right after the merger between UBS and SBC, we had to go to the post office to collect an item from the bank. It turned out to be our employee Christmas card... by registered mail... strange... then I opened it up: 30g of gold was in there! Two little bars from the previous two banks, and a 20g bar from the merged bank.

    The London employees were pissed off... they got really tacky watches, blue ones for the men, red ones for the ladies...

    Oddly right in the middle of the whole Nazi gold thing too... oh well... the Swiss are good folks but political correctness isn't always high on their list... and shown in both cases...

    1. Re:Go work for a Swiss bank... by aggieben · · Score: 1

      ... they got really tacky watches, blue ones for the men, red ones for the ladies... the Swiss are good folks but political correctness isn't always high on their list...

      Obviously...everyone knows that the women should have received pink watches, not red ones. How insensitive can they be?

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      Don't become a regular here, you will become retarded. -- Yoda the Retard
    2. Re:Go work for a Swiss bank... by ElPresidente1972 · · Score: 2, Funny

      So that's what happened to all the missing Nazi gold!

    3. Re:Go work for a Swiss bank... by Vellmont · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wow. 30 grams of gold is almost one troy ounce (about 31 grams per troy ounce). A troy ounce of gold is about $330 US. That's quite an expensive, if not odd gift to give employees. I'm curious, did most people sell the gold, or keep it?

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      AccountKiller
    4. Re:Go work for a Swiss bank... by oyenstikker · · Score: 2

      the Swiss are good folks but political correctness isn't always high on their list

      are good folks == political correctness isn't always high on their list.
      The "but" shouldn't be there.

      --
      The masses are the crack whores of religion.
    5. Re:Go work for a Swiss bank... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not a whole lot of a Christmas bonus... tech companies are known to give bonuses in the triple digits (or at least were during the bubble). I have to say it's an awesome format, though-- two little bars merged into a large one. Clever.

  186. No Pain No Gain by Cwaig · · Score: 1

    I got a new TFT monitor & HD for home, plus £1000 cheque, and the all expenses company xmas party (dinner, drinks and a club).

    Flip Side of that is the same week I got my whole weekend cancelled to go bug hunting for an obscure bug, that turned out to be a hardware fault and not it's 23:40 and it looks like an all nighter trying to code round the fault.

    So - you get the bonus, but every company want's it's pound of flesh in return.
    No bonus or "we value you" type perks, and you can tell 'em to go f*ck when they want all nighters in the run up to xmas. Get a bonus, and you gotta start shuvelling when the sh*t hits the fan.

    It's part of the deal you make when you enter the industry...

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  187. For my Giftmass bonus... by demozthenes · · Score: 1

    I got fired. Out of a job. The bookstore that I work at to pay monstrous upcoming college tuition bills is going out of business in three weeks.

    Still, it looks as though I'm not the only one. I foresee this comment field metamorphosing into one big Slashdot pity party. :}

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    You drink too much coffee, I drink too much stout.
  188. You are a TWIT by lactose99 · · Score: 2

    You obviously don't know the difference between whining about free stuff and demanding respect. The bobblyhead doll is an insult to someone who's been working their tail off all year. Nothing would have been better.

    I hope I never have to share the same room with such a self-righteous aloof twit as you.

    --
    Fully licensed blockchain psychiatrist
  189. lame parties and other crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My Christmas party is tonight (less than an hour from now actually) and I'm skipping. Why? Because the Christmas party will consist of: 1) rhetoric from the CEO about how we're going to change the world and how great our management team is. 2) a public butt kissing marathon from other execs striving to impress the management team and my personal favorite 3) boring, lame, stupid games that bore me to tears. This all going on at the same time that my group (network and applications support) has saw a decrease from 4 warm bodies to 2 while the workload and expectations have increased. We run our firewall and mail servers off ancient former desktop machines that were leftovers and when we got them they had posties on them saying things like "not stable" and "crashes often". Of course, the MCSD's get new servers every couple of years and always the latest and greatest software from Redmond, of course they don't have to answer the phone when the mail server goes down. One final nit pick is that sitting in on a development meeting I saw someone humiliated by the VP and head of development when she suggested that perhaps we should spend some time to build reusable code libraries instead of having 10 versions of logging and authentication functions. The VP thought this was "stupid" and that RAD (compile, test, debug, fix) is the only way to develop code, after all most software projects fail anyway, so why spend any more than the absolute minimum required time. Consequently, "our" code is neither commented nor indented. Functions tend to be thousands of lines long, globals all over the place along with some GOTO statements. The irony of code quality versus failed software projects seems lost on them. Sigh. I'll shut up now, I feel better.

  190. Don't be such a pussy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whoever posted that complaint about recieving his bosses bobble head doll should shut the fuck up. He should be thankful to be employed. I work for a small county and right now were in a 8% budget crunch, so were all sitting on pins waiting for pink slips, which some people have already recieved.

  191. Please excuse my ignorance... by GoogolPlexPlex · · Score: 1

    ...what is a "bobble-head doll"??
    Perhaps someone can give an approximate Australian translation of this term??

    1. Re:Please excuse my ignorance... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A little doll whose head jiggles when you shake it. They look neat. They are cute. You are missing out. You need to get bobble head.

  192. forced into retirement. by alfredo · · Score: 2

    now they are dragging their feet on my pension.

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  193. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  194. Category Change? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shouldn't this be from the "Whaa Fuckin' Whaa" dept?

  195. Whoosh! And the joke goes right over your head! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dumbass. The joke of the message (I'm going to spell it out for you) was that the poster of the message was suggesting the guy quit his job... so he could take it himself.

    (Why am I replying to an AC? It's not like AC's ever check responses to their comments... oh well, the message is written and, damnit, I'm going to post it...)

  196. A Roll of Film! by mabinogi · · Score: 2

    Since our company is >50% owned by Kodak Asia Pacific, we always get a single roll of film, every year.

    Except 1999, when we got a disposable camera - to take pictures of any New year's eve cellebratations we might be part of(yay Kodak)

    We also usally get a profit share bonus either just before or just after Christmas, which is dependant on the board approving it, and on company and branch perfomance (50% based on company perfomance, 25 % based on branch profit target, 25 % based on branch customer satisfaction).
    We all know in advance if it's going to happen, so there's not any nasty suprise when it doesn't (but still disapointment of course).

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  197. Time Off !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Two extra days off without pay, I guess they will save a fortune having the lights off on those two days. Yeh, I know whose lights, I'd like to put out!

  198. ANY Xmas bonus... by CaptainPsyko · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is better than what this guy is gonna get.

    1. Re:ANY Xmas bonus... by Ruis · · Score: 1

      I've got some crappy speakers on my laptop. Can somebody post the lyrics to this? Even without understanding what he's saying, it's hillarious.

    2. Re:ANY Xmas bonus... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you owe me the 30 seconds of my life I just wasted,

      and I want them back.

    3. Re:ANY Xmas bonus... by Feng · · Score: 1

      The lyrics can be found here:

      Title: Burger King Christmas Carol
      Artist: Retard Choir

      I work at Burger King making flame-broiled whoppers,
      I wear paper hat.

      Would you like an apple pie with that?
      Would you like an apple pie with that?

      Ding, fries are done.
      Ding, fries are done.
      Ding, fries are done.
      Ding, fries are done.

      I gotta run.
      I gotta run.
      I gotta run.
      I gotta run.

      Don't bob for fries in hot fat,
      it really hurt bad and so does skin graft.

      Would you like an apple pie with that?
      Would you like an apple pie with that?

      Where is the bell?
      Wait for the bell.
      Can't eat the bell.
      Where is the bell?

      Ding, fries are done.
      Ding, fries are done.
      Ding, fries are done.
      Ding, fries are done.

      I work at Burger King making flame-broiled whoppers,
      I wear paper hat.

      Would you like an apple pie with that?
      Would you like an apple pie with that?

      Ding, fries are done.
      Ding, fries are done.
      Ding, fries are done.
      Ding, fries are doneeeeee.

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      --- if y cn rd ths y cn gt a gd jb n cmptr prgmmng!
    4. Re:ANY Xmas bonus... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seeing as you post AC on slashdot, here's your penny

  199. This year's bonus: Keep your job by Sandman1971 · · Score: 2

    This past week was layoff time. 4 people I know got hit. My bonus this year: keeping my job. OUr bosses are taking us out to a bar next week, which is more than my previous boss did at my other position (we got a card, and if we wanted to attend the xmas party, we had to buy tickets). Needless to say with the layoffs, the mood will probably be gloomy.

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  200. Oh but mine is sooo much worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you don't have a job, but are still able to afford the time and internet connection(and computer and living space to put said computer in) to bitch on slashdot about it then it's about time to stop whining. There are people with real problems on this planet and they probably aren't sitting inside writing about it on their new laptop over the spiffy wireless connection they just set up.

  201. In a Capitolist society... by GMontag · · Score: 2

    In a Capitolist society, the bosses give gifts to the workers. In the US Federal (socialistic) society, the workers give gifts to their "overseers".

    I am a little puzzled as to what enviroment the author is *really* in...

  202. I got...a week off without pay! by SNACKeR · · Score: 1

    Being a long-time contract developer has its benefits - but company perks ain't one of them!

  203. I work for a large IT staffing company.. by sigsegv_11 · · Score: 1

    .. and I got absolutely squat. 'Course, I'm a contractor. I'm supposed to get squat.

    They are throwing us a Christmas party, though.. at a bowling alley. At least they're buying the beer. Personally, I'd be more than happy to pass up the party if it means getting benefits.. or leave... or a permanent gig. Right now, it's no work == no pay. The only thing I'm getting is the privilege to go back to work on Monday.

  204. My Christmas gift would be... by antdude · · Score: 2

    getting my contract renewed/extended. That's all I want from my boss/employer especially during this downturn. :)

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  205. Damn! I'm jealous! by jabber01 · · Score: 1

    I got nothing. Nothing at all.

    You, you lucky bastard, got all that, and an insult! Is your company hiring?

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    The REAL jabber has the user id: 13196
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  206. you're kidding right? by deanj · · Score: 2

    The only Christmas bonus I can recall getting is a gift certificate to Sears.

  207. Christmas Bonus (NOT!) by BobandMax · · Score: 1

    I was priveleged to take a week of vacation time or not get paid. Merry Christmas!

    --

    "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."
    -- Pablo Picasso
  208. At Nortel Networks... by hillct · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My first year I got a nice christmas bonus. Mu send year I got a mini stocking containing various gift basket sorts of things (this was kind of weird). Each of these two years, we had a big holiday lunch. The next year (2000) I recieved a monogrammed foux-leather business card holder and a gift certificate ($10) to BestBuy. In subsequent years folks got nothing at all (or nothing that I remember - there may have been a few holiday lunches paid for by various departments).

    I now work at an academic institution where I've been attending various holiday parties every day last week and there are a few next week as well. I'm not sure if there are holiday bonuses or other things to come.

    --CTH

    --

    --Got Lists? | Top 95 Star Wars Line
    1. Re:At Nortel Networks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, this Christmas I was "downsized" (yes, Nortel, I am happy to last this long). Funny thing thou, HR seems not to know :

      a. my customer
      b. my product
      c. my location

      (that is if I read the letter from them). Now they try to cover this up (copy & paste error, etc).

  209. Bonus's in general. by Flamesplash · · Score: 2

    I work at an educational R&D lab of about 1200 technical people. We mainly do DoD contract projects. The most we get for xmas is a lab wide get together in the lab. It usually includes little sweet snack foods and not much else. They had chicken fingers the year before, but no more. My group has a pot luck xmas party. While that's ok, we also don't get anything else through out the year, except maybe a little ice cream.

    After interning at Microsoft it was quite a change to go from the day to day bennies they offered to absolutely nothing. Like the story poster I don't really have to worry about my job, since DoD work is fairly slow and steady as far as the work force, but it would be nice is companies like mine realized that a small amount of effort really does go a long way.

    --
    "Not knowing when the dawn will come, I open every door." - Emily Dickinson
    1. Re:Bonus's in general. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see English words, but you make no fucking sense. It's like some retarded dictionary shit on your keyboard.

  210. Open Bar by rimhoffd · · Score: 1

    Well my company must be doing good, because we get a raffle, open bar, and "Santa" will make a cameo to give gifts to the kids.

    Sucks to be you man, suggestion, M80 + duct tape + bobble head. Sounds theriputic to me!

  211. 25$ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wow, and i work for a company worth 16 billion CDN and has at keast 10000 employees.

    1. Re:25$ by glenstar · · Score: 2
      what's 16 billion Canadian nowdays? Does that mean the company is broke after paying 100 employees $25 a piece?

      (note: joke... kind of)

  212. Pink slip by yamla · · Score: 2

    What I got this year... a pick slip. Still, this is better than last year. I didn't get anything last year except a missed paycheque. Heh.

    --

    Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
  213. Wonderful! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    The unemployment office let me keep the pen!

  214. This only works if... by djupedal · · Score: 2

    ...you do it on company time.

  215. Re:So... What did you get from your Company... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    • You
    • Fail
    • It
  216. Merry Christmas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Our company gives out a $200 bonus, plus $50 for each year at the company. A Christmas ham and a box of mixed citrus fruit. We have very little turnover.

  217. are all you whiners... by DMaster0 · · Score: 1

    Working IT jobs that pay you 45-50K/year or more?

    If so, shut up you make enough money as it is, and your high salaries are probably WHY you don't get bonuses.

    I make way less than anything like that, but I work for a non-IT corporation, it's (gasp) profitable, has been experiencing growth, has great benefits, and it's a job I can go to every day and say "I love my job"

    Even if I didn't get any monetary bonus, that's pretty good to me.

    I think a lot of you people just like to complain and pine for what you don't have, rather than realize that you're probably in a better situation than 80-90 percent of the rest of the country.

    and for what it's worth, everyone where I work got 500 bucks, a nice thanksgiving dinner (on work hours!) and a couple of other things, along with the satisfaction of knowing that we work for a pretty decent place to work at.

  218. Bobble Head Holidays by VoidPoint · · Score: 1

    We just had our party this Friday. Sad to say, not many from the tech realm showed up. Regardless...we all got gold-plated at-a-boys. Which is to say, nothing. If you don't really want that bobble head...it'd look good under my tree? Whatya say?

  219. Christmas bonus??? by ToasterTester · · Score: 2

    The only time I got Christmas bonuses was in for meaning less jobs before I got into the industry. After getting into the industry yearly bonuses is was what companies would give out based on corporate performance. On Christmas if we got anything it was from our department management, nothing big, but appreciated.

  220. Talking Turkey by belroth · · Score: 2
    One place I worked one of the directors owned a turkey farm so guess what we got as part of our bonus? I presume he got a good deal selling from one of his companies to another.....

    I didn't mind getting the bird (couldn't resist) as I love turkey and it was only part of our package but it was slightly surreal queuing up in the underground car park of a London office building having, (ahem) lunched well at the local hostelry, to collect a 14lb bird to take home on the tube in the Christmas rush hour.

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  221. This might be a good time for a Fuck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if FuckedCompany.Com knows about this?

  222. What we get... by hbean · · Score: 1

    we have 2 christmas parties and also get a nice bonus.

    --
    "Give someone a program, frustrate them for a day... Teach someone to program, frustrate them for a lifetime."
  223. The Bone in Bonus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Our employer used to give each employee a
    turkey for the holidays.
    Now we get a $10US coupon at a local grocery.
    At least with the coupons enough get discarded
    to buy a decent amount of beer.

  224. your lucky by joejg · · Score: 1

    ...my company didn't even invite me to the christmas party!

  225. Did the bobble head doll have an open mouth? by Newer+Guy · · Score: 2

    If so, that's the reason the CEO does so well! He blows all the people over him....

  226. another paycheck, by DeprecatedFeature · · Score: 1

    a bunch of interrupted vacation days, and a gift cert to a local grocery store so i could buy some beers and forget it all. or maybe it was for food. i forget.

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    maybe one day i'll be smart enough to come up with a cool sig, too.
  227. Things I got :p by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got a fleece vest with the company logo :P I also
    got chocolate and a party with an open bar. Not bad,
    considering that I'm a consultant. No $$$, though. :(

    Oh yeah, and I got a cassette player. I think that was a joke. I mean... magnetic tape? What's that for?

  228. Let Eddie handle it by jkc120 · · Score: 1

    Why not let your redneck cousin kidnap him and bring him to you in a big red bow! That way he can see the error of his ways and give you a huge bonus.

    --
    "I drank what?" -Socrates
  229. old food by amanita_muscaria · · Score: 1

    i work at a warehouse, and last year i got a box full of food. some packages of thin-sliced ham and pastrami, a tiny steak, some smoked salmon, crab paste, pickled herring, some chocolate cookies and other stuff. in general - food that i never eat. they funny part was that i was sick the last working day before christmas, and they placed my box of food in a cold storage room used for storing 35mm film. i came back to work at the third of january, and it took them two or three days to remember that they had a christmas gift for me. and much of the food was already past the best before date.. sucks?

  230. Take your own 'presents' by m.lemur · · Score: 2

    If, like me, the Fortune 500 company you work for doesn't give you a Christmas present or bonus or even a card this year. Help yourself to some company property, I already have a large box of toilet paper, large jar of coffee, box of sticky tape, 3 old pagers, an office chair, an elderly secretary, that blue stuff they put in urinals and a whole stack of coffee mugs 'liberated'.

    Merry christmas Mr CEO!

  231. A better gift.. by Guppy06 · · Score: 2

    "Following my company's Christmas party on Friday, I found myself the proud recipient of... a bobble head doll of the company CEO! Needless to say I was PISSED."

    Then what you need is a voodoo bobble head doll of the company CEO.

  232. My present: I got laid off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yep, merry xmas. Got laid off. Company owes me a shitload of money, and I'm flat broke. Monday I get to go see about what legal recourse I've got to get them to pay me. Ho ho ho merry xmas.

  233. At My Company they gave me a... by nt2UNIX · · Score: 1

    pay check that cashes. Which is more than I can say for the company I was working for last christmas.

    They at least give us 2 days off for Christmas, which is nice.

  234. So what? Christmas has sweet FA to do with Christ. by Moderation+abuser · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's a pagan holiday celebrating the winter solstice. The start of a new year.

    Go check your dates, people.

    --
    Government of the people, by corporate executives, for corporate profits.
  235. Talk about a lawsuite waiting to happen by Flamesplash · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Just imagine how much liability a company would open themselves up to by getting everyone an iPod. Can you say piracty central? :P

    "Uh yes Apple, we'd like to order 500 iPods and notify the DMCA that they can raid us in about a week. Thanks."

    --
    "Not knowing when the dawn will come, I open every door." - Emily Dickinson
    1. Re:Talk about a lawsuite waiting to happen by j3ffrey · · Score: 1

      Now why be hostile? The world would be a better place if there was less hostility. Less ignorance would be good also but ignorance can be corrected without the use of hostility. You didn't even see fit to mention what DMCA stood for. Why are you so agressive?

    2. Re:Talk about a lawsuite waiting to happen by l810c · · Score: 2
      And to hide behind AC is even worse.

      Oh, and:

      The 1998 enactment of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) represents the most comprehensive reform of United States copyright law in a generation. The DMCA seeks to update U.S. copyright law for the digital age in preparation for ratification of the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) treaties. Key among the topics included in the DMCA are provisions concerning the circumvention of copyright protection systems, fair use in a digital environment, and online service provider (OSP) liability (including details on safe harbors, damages, and "notice and takedown" practices). Resources on these and other topics are included below.
      That's the offical version, here's a blurb about the negatives:

      Why is the DMCA so bad? The DMCA makes is a crime to "circumvent" copyright protection systems. Here is the language: `Sec. 1201. Circumvention of copyright protection systems `(2) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that-- Computer Scientists can no longer research software to ensure it provides adequate protection. Here is an analogy: The NTSB conducts crash tests to ensure vechicles protect passengers in the event of an accident. Computer Scientists and Security experts conduct similar testing with software. This testing ensures adequate protection from crackers, failure, weak security, etc. Often, a researcher will write a paper describing an attack. This paper must then be translated into computer code often referred to as "Proof of Concept" code. Without code, the researcher has no proof his theory works. The law provides certain exemptions for research, however they are unclear and must be approved by the Corporation who created the software. If this corporation knows their software is weak or knows it can be cracked, why should they allow someone to actually test it!? This is what happened to Princeton Professor Felten and his research team when they were threatened by the RIAA. Don't think this law is limited to the US. Similar laws along with outrageous Search and Seizure laws are also being enacted around the globe. Why are all these countries suddenly taking oddly similar approaches? WTO + WIPO = DMCA. Futhermore, Source code == Speech. Mathematicians use symbols. The Deaf speak with their hands. Programmers speak in code. To relate E equals the product of M times the square of C, I could write it out or just use symbols. e = mc^2. e = mc2 The same is true for computer code. It is sometimes the best way to relate something. Besides, how can I prove a flaw exists without code to back it up? Furthermore, Professor Felten could not publish a paper critizing and showing flaws in a protection system for fear of arrest. This was just a paper! There are many other issues with this law, but you should find the information and parts of the law you are most interested in.
    3. Re:Talk about a lawsuite waiting to happen by j3ffrey · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Were you born that fucking stupid or did you have to work on it?

      I have to work on it. :-)

      Now until the world becomes a better place for your kind, get back down there and suck it!

      OK dude. Thanks for the advice.

    4. Re:Talk about a lawsuite waiting to happen by radish · · Score: 2

      Errr...so I (as a company) can be raided for buying a couple hundred units of some totally legal product, made and sold by an american company, in america, direct from the manufacturer, with my money? Geez....you live in a wonderful world over there!

      --

      ---- Den ene knappen er powerknapp, den andre er Bender voice knapp "Bite My Shiny Metal Ass"

    5. Re:Talk about a lawsuite waiting to happen by Flamesplash · · Score: 2

      Is your america the same as my America? hehe

      I often wonder how much music loaded onto iPod like devices are legal and not. I'm guessing there's a lot of illegal stuff, hence my comment.

      --
      "Not knowing when the dawn will come, I open every door." - Emily Dickinson
    6. Re:Talk about a lawsuite waiting to happen by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 1

      the iPOD does not promote piracy, it is just a device used to carry the pirated tracks around. you can not even upload fromthe iPOD to another device...you have to make room by deleeing songs in order to upload new stuff.

      --



      I am the Alpha and the Omega-3
    7. Re:Talk about a lawsuite waiting to happen by Flamesplash · · Score: 2

      hehe, and P2P programs like Kazaa don't promote piracy?

      I wasn't trying to imply that iPods were gateway devices to hardcore piracy, I just imagine that the majority of music on portable mp3 playing devices are probably illegal. Even if this is true I don't think they should be forced out of production or anything.

      --
      "Not knowing when the dawn will come, I open every door." - Emily Dickinson
    8. Re:Talk about a lawsuite waiting to happen by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 1

      the problem with Felton is he was a wimp. he did not test the system, he just ran and hid. if it were me, I would have published the paper, done a public demonstration, and given the paper to everyone who attended. then when they arrest me, the ACLU is on there ass pro-bono, and I either get released and the charges are droped which weakens the law, or I go to trial, the news lambastes the government for infringing my freespeech rights, and the case gets dismissed on its merits in which case I get released and the DMCA is weakened...public disobediance.....you are not doing it by sitting on your ass at home, and downloading MP3s with your middle finger in the air....(sure you would like to think that)....pblic disobediance is to go to city hall and violate the part of the law that you think is wrong....then they either leave you allon, or arrest you. do it the Dr. King way people!!!!

      POWER TO THE GEEKS

      --



      I am the Alpha and the Omega-3
    9. Re:Talk about a lawsuite waiting to happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a dumb fuck. An ipod is a CD player that that plays a different format of music. There is no (legal) difference between buying a CD player and an MP3 player. I buy an ipod to listen to my music, you buy it to listen to your stolen music. Your actions in this case don't affect me, or a company purchasing this for employees. You use Kazaa to download music you don't own. Its easier (although a slippery slope) to argue that Kazaa is only used to share copyrighted works. An ipod just plays music! Get it? You got it off Kazaa? That's the illegal part, nothing to do with how you play the music.

    10. Re:Talk about a lawsuite waiting to happen by benedict · · Score: 2

      The parent poster is living in a fantasy world.

      If the new iPod owners were to set up MP3 sharing
      on company servers, then the company could be liable.
      But liable to the RIAA for giving away iPods?
      Forget it.

      --
      Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems."
  236. Amazon gift certificates by jroysdon · · Score: 1

    We got $20 Amazon gift certificates and played bingo/name drawings for 6 $100 gift certificates good at our local mall. Oh well...

    1. Re:Amazon gift certificates by jroysdon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh, but I should say that supposedly the last few months the two company owners have been going without pay as time are tough. Needless to say, their Wives weren't happy, but it deep help the rest of us feel a little better, especially with a decent amount of our co-workers getting laid off.

  237. Wot is this "Christmas" you are speaking of? by orthogonal · · Score: 2

    I am not knowing what is this "Christmas" of which you are speaking. Maybe I am not knowing because this "Christmas" is being a holiday in America.

    I am living in Madras, India, and I am writing code for 250 rupees per hour. (That is convertable to almost $5.19 US dollars!) I am proud to say that I am doing the job of three American coders! I know this because those three transitioned their code to me before they were laid off for lack of work.

    It is just too bad that those three have still not found work, but I hear from several of my cousins that there are many jobs driving taxis in America. Or perhaps they can get jobs in the growing sector of buggy-whip production. But no man can stand in the way of progress, or in the way of CEOs who must make profits, and salaries at least 30 times that of their average employee!

    1. Re:Wot is this "Christmas" you are speaking of? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Were they laid off for lack of work or because they knew they could pay you next to nothing to do their work?
      I am glad that your cousins can get the H1-B's to work in the country that I call home so my neighbor can lose his home because you can work for 250 rupees and your cousins can live 10 to an apartment and make 15K a year while the CEO took the difference. But there are a lot of jobs for Americans to drive taxis.
      That's OK, though, when Microsoft finally makes every Indian a programmer, my neighbor can say high to your cousins working at the 7-11 when their jobs get turned over to you... Or would they go back to India after they played their part in destroying America's IT infrastructure?

    2. Re:Wot is this "Christmas" you are speaking of? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahahaha. You got trolled big time, hoser!

  238. IN SOVIET RUSSIA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Soviet Russia Bobble head dolls hand out you!

    1. Re:IN SOVIET RUSSIA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is good. Fucking good. I got a nice mental picture.

  239. Out here in acadamia... by alfredw · · Score: 2

    ... all I got was a 6.4% tuition hike, plus an extra $2,000 differential slapped on professional programmes (ie: medicine, engineering, law).

    This at a publicly-run institution that posted a profit last year. Makes me feel loved...

    --
    In Soviet Russia, sig types you!
  240. An order of magnitude less... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    We got $250 this year vs. $2000 last year. But the party was a lot nicer.

    Blind Willy's was a bad idea...but we all knew that.

  241. laid off by Evil+Willow · · Score: 2, Informative

    I work for a consulting firm and 89 of us got laid off.

    The rest of those left are getting a 2-day all hands meeting which usually entails a great meal and open bar somewhere. Oh, and all flown in from all over the country.

    Personally, I would rather have seen them skip the all hands meeting and let a few people keep their jobs for the holidays!

  242. How come... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...nobody has posted this link yet?

  243. It Doesn't Really Matter But... by mccoy1701 · · Score: 1

    We got $10 Gift Certificates from our local Chamber of Commerce. But, as I'm a co-op, this doesn't bother me too much. (Except for the fact that my job is one of the most stressfull in my organization, exceded only by the 'real' employees in my department. What department is this you ask? Why, Tech Support of course.

  244. Hmmmm by SupahVee · · Score: 4, Informative

    I see many people complaining that they didnt get a bonus, or some that did, but it wasnt near what the C-people got, and yet a whole other group of wankers who think nobody deserves a bonus. The cimple soultion seems to be that if your company gives bonuses, that it be fair, if you busted your ass all year long, and your coworker didnt, you should rightly get a bigger bonus. This of course relies on someone making MORE than you to be honest. Fat chance, pal. The simpler solution seems to be the one that Whole Foods (the healthy food store) employs. Everyone in the company, from the CEO, down to the stokers, knows how much everyone else makes, tends to keep everyone honest and working hard. Not overworking, mind you, just working hard for the money they are earning. Certainly puts a creative form of peer pressure into play, doesnt it?

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    "See, we plan ahead! That way, we never have to do anything now."
  245. I got two things by hswerdfe · · Score: 1

    jack & shit.

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    --meh--
  246. Wrong Question! by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

    ``What did you get from your Company for Christmas?''
    You should *not* have asked that! My boss got me a new car, free high speed Internet access for a year, decorations for the christmas tree, a 13th and 14th month bonus, and a bottle of wine. There. You asked for it!

    --
    Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
  247. Huzzah we get to work another year!! by gelfling · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We get our annual bonuses in May but here's the deal so far. We're graded on a 1-2-3 scale w/ 1 being th highest. Usually 10% get 1 while about 15-20% get 3 which is a subtle "Get another goddamn job message.

    This year we've told that there is basically no money, but instead of simply adjusting the payout per grading we're told that no one will get a 1, 60% will get a 2 and the remainder, 40% will get a 3 which this year carries no bonus at all. The pool for the 2's will be cut in half. Now if you were counting on a 1 you were probably expecting a 15%-20% payout (20-25% for same grade if you are a manager), which this year will be reduced to a 2 grading which itself will be cut in half to about 5% payout. And the rest of everyone else gets a "YOU SUCK" rating that goes in the HR record. Which is just fucking lovely if you want to transfer internally and your last evaluation was "YOU SUCK".

    They could avoid this by giving everyone the same rating they were supposed to get and simply tell everyone that there are basically no bonuses this year except for those with the Godlike powers of the glowing green sun of Krypton. Instead they've turned the workforce into a brutal Darwinian game where everyone trods on the skulls of their fallen enemies.

    God I love this business, give me a grail of human blood!!!

    1. Re:Huzzah we get to work another year!! by rizzo · · Score: 2

      IIRC, Krypton's sun was red. Krypton itself was made of the green rock that was known as kryptonite. But that's not nearly as powerful as dolomite.

      --

      "More organs means more human." - Zim

  248. Lube & Tunes by mscalora · · Score: 1

    I got a tube of Victoria Secret hand lotion, which my wife loved, and a audio CD, Old Navy's Haunted Hits. Whoohooo!

    -Mike

  249. Self employed... by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...went to store...bough self iPod...happy with gift.

  250. Thankful by jordie · · Score: 1

    Quite frankly we should just be happy that we have jobs and the ability to make ends meet. I am working a rather hard job, I am the grunt, the guy that gets all the hard jobs, the jobs that nobody else wants to do. I am however thankful for my job, and would never be anything but grateful for being able to do it. Each year there is a company Christmas party, in no way did I expect to be invited, however this weekend I was suprised to have been. It won't be a great, extravagent party, however it's the thought that counts right! :) Be thankful guys, if your boss is an ass that gives you a "bobble head doll of himself" just be grateful that you are able to work under him, and you get paid for what you do.

  251. Dude, you must have REVENGE!!!!! by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 2

    Make a bobble-head doll of yourself and send it to the CEO free of charge! That'll teach 'em.

  252. Big bonus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I almost feel sorry for all of you. This year everyone in our IT dept (all 10 of us) got a $5000 bonus each.

  253. save big money at ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you know how much they pay the Menard's guy/girl that appears in their ads?

    Try $4000.00/week for actual shooting, plus a royalty of $7.00 each time the ad plays. How many thousands of times does a Menard's ad run? Oh, about 800 TV stations times 10 times each per day for 365 days.

    Nice trick if you can turn it. By the way, the woman is a family member. Bet she'll find a nice gift under her plate at the family get-together Christas day!

  254. Take the initiative ... by mfago · · Score: 5, Funny

    I got as much toilet paper and office supplies as I could carry!

  255. I got a bonus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess I'm the only one here that actually got a good bonus.

    I'm a lead software developer at one of the leading enterprise software companies, and I was given a $33,000 USD retention bonus so that I won't leave the company until at least January 2004. It also acts as a severance bonus, so if they ever did lay me off, I would get the $33K immediately, regardless of any severance pay and vacation. They also gave me 7500 options.

    I'm currently making over $100K, but a $33K bonus is pretty good in this day and age.

  256. No, not the only one? by beaverfever · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes, it occured to me as well.

    If it's a company large enough to warrant a $65mil CEO then there must be a pile of these out there and surely someone could verify the story. Certainly at a company with that much money behind it, and the number of people that would be involved in such a company, and the friends who might hear of the doll, there would be more than one slashdot reader willing to come forward (non-anon at that).

    Where's the link to an image? Where's the slashdotting of some innocent's poor server? Where's the jokes about a beowulf cluster of these? Oh wait, now it's that damned russian joke going on and on and on. Anyways where's the evidence.

    or, it could be a troll.

    right now I'm betting on the latter

    Although I do realise that the main thrust of this story is the question 'what is your company doing for you this christmas?'

    As for myself, a job would be nice. Anybody hiring graphic designers?

  257. In a OZ University by puggsincyberspace · · Score: 1
    Here we have a 17% leave loading that we get before Xmas, it's part of our work agreement. That works out to be about $A500 after TAX.

    We are in a bit of striff finacialy here so every one has been told to not have a Xmas party, so i have only been to one and we will have ours this week.

    Xmas bonuses are not really part of the Australian culture so i'm not doing to bad.

    --
    Access Point Live Mapping Access Points with Google
  258. Are you for real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know what my Christmas bonus is this year? I still have a job.

    I just said goodbye to another wave of laid off co-workers on Friday. Yeah, Friday, as in less than two weeks before the guy in the red suit is supposed to come.

    Suck it up princess.

  259. I got laid off for Christmas by theinfobox · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ugh... I have been going downhill since 1999.
    1999: Bonus was 120% of my annual salary(yes, times were great)
    2000: Bonus was 75% of my annual salary(yes, times were still pretty good)
    2001: No bonus; I was laid off, but got 6 months severance (Not bad, considering...)
    2002: No bonus; I was laid off and got nothing at all. (This is the Grinch Christmas)

    I guess 2004 will have to be better than this.

    P.S. Need a Net. Admin.? Look at my resume: Resume for Patrick Anderson

    1. Re:I got laid off for Christmas by orim · · Score: 1

      2002: No bonus; I was laid off and got nothing at all. (This is the Grinch Christmas)
      I guess 2004 will have to be better than this.

      So are you just going to drink 2003 away?

      --
      "If you could only see what I've seen with your eyes..." - Roy Batty
  260. Be happy... by buss_error · · Score: 2
    you've got a job. Plenty of the geek elete don't at the moment. (I do, and though things stink, I'm not gonna go hungry.)

    You could be one of the thousands at SBC that were laid off... just after SBC announced record profits.

    Or you could be a cube warior at Gateway, 5 days unpaid leave. Or one of the folks at AOHell that's getting a nice pink card for Xmas.

    Sure, it sucks you aren't getting a bonus. Think of continued employment as a bonus. Yes. That helps.

    --
    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
  261. Best Christmas Ever by emmetropia · · Score: 1

    At MSN, I recieved the best christmas present ever. I was fired, then given a falsified R.O.E. that stops me from being able to collect any form of Employment Insurance. Ho Ho Ho Bill, merry fuckin christmas.

    1. Re:Best Christmas Ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sucker, I bet you still buy the next edition of windows, just like 80% of the saps that read this site.

  262. Mod Parent Up!!! by phoxix · · Score: 1
    Seriously,

    If this guy could get an article about bad presents, that make make others notice.. And maybe even list some company names in that article, I'm sure the management people of those companies might realize how stupid they acted and might just give out better presents next year.

    There is no rule .. like mob rule :)

    Sunny Dubey

    1. Re:Mod Parent Up!!! by cacav · · Score: 1

      I agree. The address he gives is for the company that publishes, among other things, EE Times and I think Tech Review. I'd love to see an article on this in EE Times.

    2. Re:Mod Parent Up!!! by calculon2021 · · Score: 1

      The correct magazine is....Information Week

  263. A week off... by DwrvnRage · · Score: 1

    I'm gonna get a week off for X-mas. Of course I'll be working 12 hour shifts for seven days the week after that. Not worth it at all if you ask me.

  264. It's in the contract by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead, we get 50% of a month's salary in may (as a "vacation" buns) and another 50% of a month's salary in november as an "xmas bonus". This actually is in the contract. I work in the aviation industry. :P

    As for real "gifts"... the company paid for a dinner, plus I got two calendars. No big deal, but a nice gesture. Now a head bopping doll does sound really stupid, but really - if you sign a contract then you better pay attention to variables such as bonusses. If the contract does not look good without them, dont sign it. And yeah you are lucky to have a job.

    Sorry, no flame intended, but I never understoof why you americans let yourselves be screwed over like that. I was checking out some jobs in the US a few years ago, and for example one boasted TWO WEEKS paid vacations, a year. What gives? I get six weeks paid vacations here. Why would anybody on earth sign such a bad and horrible contract?

    1. Re:It's in the contract by m1a1 · · Score: 1

      TWO WEEKS paid vacations, a year.

      You will never see six weeks paid vacation in the U.S. Probably even if you are some kind of C.E.O. (you may be able to get away with it, but it wouldn't be in writing). America is very investor driven. Investors don't like to see the words paid and vacation in the same sentence.

  265. I'm happy by Wonko42 · · Score: 2

    I got a $2,000 raise. Ho ho ho!

  266. New poll, do you have a job right now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    New poll, do you have a job right now?

    Where I am living, there's a unemployment rate of 25% in the IT sector.

  267. Bobbleheads by Zed2K · · Score: 1

    Bobbleheads are so 90's.

    Geez...just goes to show how behind the times HR departments are.

  268. Different Companies, Different Beatings by Cylix · · Score: 2

    Well a few years ago, when I was with lovely OneMame ... er OneMain we recieved some lovely mouse pads, keychains and a cheap clock. I was in awe.

    After they were purchased by Earthlink (good for onemame, bad for earthlink) we recieved this completely kick ass bonus. It wasn't really a christmas bonus, but a year end bonus based on churn and profit goals. If things went well the total bonus could be up to 10%. While I have complaints elsewhere with the company this was just beautiful.

    This year with the new company I expect it to be rather minimal, but better then a mousepad.

    In any case, I never expected year end contributions from the company and I have every intention of accepting whatever it is they decide to give.

    Management, well, they will get big fat whatevers for making sure the drones do all the work.

    --
    "You should always go to other people's funerals; otherwise, they won't come to yours." -- Yogi Berra
    1. Re:Different Companies, Different Beatings by /dev/trash · · Score: 2

      Ahh yes. I know OneMain. The took over my old ISP. PennCom. PennCom was great, OneMain was okay. Earthlink sucked ass. I left them.

    2. Re:Different Companies, Different Beatings by Cylix · · Score: 2

      OneMain was OK?

      The only benefit to onemain was they did nothing. Well they trashed indy.net through the wonderful process of integration. Well I can't say they did nothing, they sure did spend alot of cash.

      Better management, skill sets, and generally easier people to get along with, I rated Elink much higher internally.

      --
      "You should always go to other people's funerals; otherwise, they won't come to yours." -- Yogi Berra
    3. Re:Different Companies, Different Beatings by /dev/trash · · Score: 2

      Well, when Onemain took over I didn't even know until I happened to look at a log file that showed onemain as my ISP.
      When Earthlink took over I was billed for logging in twice, although I have one phone line and one modem. Then they 'accidently' deleted emails. Fortunately I left before they raised prices.
      I still get junk mail from them wanting me back. Whatever.

  269. GREAT idea. :) Stick the doll full of pins ... by JoeGee · · Score: 2

    ... and put it on your desk. Explain to any who ask that it has become the jumping point for your growing interest in the religion of Santaria. Although this may actually be the beginning of your transition to a new career (termination due to insubordination and the subsequent job hunt), it'll probably be the last bobble head doll you'll get from a boss whose ego is set to autowank. :)

    --

    Get off my virtual lawn, you damned virtual kids!
  270. LMFAO by Pyrosophy · · Score: 1

    Looks like you never got to Reality 201.

    Employment will be an agreement among equals when I can let my boss go due to "tough" financial times just like I can.

    Employment will be an agreement among equals when my boss invites me to his Christmas party.

    Employment will be an agreement among equals when my boss will be reprimanded for missing a day of work.

    Employment will be an agreement among equals when I get equal compensation for equal amounts of work and experience.

    Employment will be an agreement among equals when I can be in the same health plan as my boss and the company owner.

    Employment will be an agreement among equals when bosses and owners think of employment as an agreement among equals.

    Which means:

    Employment will be an agreement among equals when pigs fly or companies are worker owned.

    1. Re:LMFAO by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      when I can let my boss go due to "tough" financial times just like I can.

      That's called "quitting" and finding another job. If you're unable to find another job, then make yourself more valuable.

      when my boss invites me to his Christmas party.

      Otherwise known as wanting pathetic gifts of approval. Don't invite him to your Christmas party, then.

      when my boss will be reprimanded for missing a day of work.

      That's called your boss having enough value to have negotiated the ability to miss days of work. If you can't, then become more valuable or negotiate that as part of your employment agreement.

      when I get equal compensation for equal amounts of work and experience.

      You are compensates exactly what you are worth. If you disagree, then find someone else who agrees with your self assessment.

      when I can be in the same health plan as my boss and the company owner.

      Nothing stops you from buying the same health plan as your boss. If you don't like the standard plan, ask if you can kick in money to get yourself to the higher level. If you can't, find another job or, again, make yourself valuable enough to where the company thinks you are worth giving the fancy health plan to.

      when bosses and owners think of employment as an agreement among equals.

      They think of you exactly the way you let them think of you. Congratulations, you have allowed yourself to be a tool.

      agreement among equals when pigs fly or companies are worker owned.

      Guess what? ALL COMPANIES ARE WORKER OWNED. The CEO is just as much of a worker as the ditch digger. And even the shareholders are workers. Everyone is a worker.

      --
      Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
    2. Re:LMFAO by oyenstikker · · Score: 2
      when I get equal compensation for equal amounts of work and experience.

      You are compensates exactly what you are worth. If you disagree, then find someone else who agrees with your self assessment.


      I think the point is not that he is not compensated for his work and experience, but that he is not compensated on the same scale as his boss, who is waaaaaay overpaid at the expense of the company and its workers.

      --
      The masses are the crack whores of religion.
    3. Re:LMFAO by Frymaster · · Score: 2
      so, for employment to be a contract between equals, the employees need to have more clout and power? simple.


      unionize!

    4. Re:LMFAO by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2

      but that he is not compensated on the same scale as his boss,

      The boss is paid exactly what the boss is worth to the company.

      who is waaaaaay overpaid at the expense of the company and its workers.

      The boss making more money does not mean he makes less money. He makes exactly what he is worth.

      --
      Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
    5. Re:LMFAO by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1, Troll

      so, for employment to be a contract between equals, the employees need to have more clout and power? simple. unionize!

      Actually, that's not the answer (at least, not the answer for the last 50 years or so).

      When you join a union, instead of giving power to your boss over yourself, you are just giving power to the union over yourself. Unions simply elevate the lamers at the expense of the good people.

      --
      Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
    6. Re:LMFAO by Oestergaard · · Score: 2
      Hmm... Ok, here we go, one by one...


      Employment will be an agreement among equals when I can let my boss go due to "tough" financial times just like I can


      You don't run the economy like your boss does, that's why he's the boss and you're not. He has responsibilities that you do not - like you have responsibilities that he does not have.

      He most likely has more economical responsibility, which is why it will seem like he is the one who may let you go "due to tough financial times".

      Should it turn out that you are a bad worker (like he would be a bad manager, should he have to let you go due to tough financial times), you will get him in trouble as well. It's not like competent employees are hanging on the trees in this world.

      In other words: If you are the least bit worth your salt, he depends on you like you depend on him. If you're an incompetent sorry sod, he will probably kick you stupid ass. You can't kick his' if he's incompetent, but either his manager, or the cruel world of competition will have his ass for it.


      Employment will be an agreement among equals when my boss invites me to his Christmas party


      Reality check: A company is a hierarchical organization. In order to relieve the CEO of having to produce every single tidbit of machinery/documents/whatever it is the company is producing, workers are hired. In order to relieve the CEO from having to discuss every single little detail about everything with each and every worker, managers are hired. Depending on the size and type of the company, these all form a hierarchy of one-to-many relationships between upper-level folks to lower-level folks.


      How many lower-level peopel does your upper-level person deal with? 10, 50, 100? You want him to invite every one of those for his private christmas party, or is it just you because you are special?


      You know, I'm pretty sure he does invite some company people to a christmas party. Maybe he just doesn't like you. Or maybe he's afraid that you will not show up after all, because you never invited him to any party. After all, since (in most companies) the workers have fewer direct managers than the managers have direct workers, the workers could in reality ask their managers to a private christmas party, and have a pretty good chance of having the manager turn the offer down because he got too many invitations :)


      Employment will be an agreement among equals when I get equal compensation for equal amounts of work and experience


      How can a company afford to pay you? It's pretty simple - you produce value for the company, by means of whatever it is that you do. Either directly, by participating in creating a product for the customers of the company, or by aiding others in your company to produce such products.

      If you cannot aid others in producing goods, and cannot produce goods yourself, you are a worthless person.

      If you're good, or if the services you produce are somehow rare, there will be a demand for you in other companies. The companies will, by means of the free market, "bid" for your services. In other words, if you are such a valuable person, it will be easy to get a higher pay at another company - in order to keep your services, your current employer will most likely not be ignorant of this fact, and they can indeed be persuaded to increase your pay.

      If they will not raise your pay, there are two options: Either go to another company that will give you the pay you demand - or discover that you are not as valuable as you thought you were, and accept the payment that you are getting.


      Employment will be an agreement among equals when bosses and owners think of employment as an agreement among equals


      Bosses and owners who do not think like this, are relics from a former era. They will go away, like the dinosaurs.

      I think that if you actually have a chat, preferrably with some upper-level management guy in an informal setting, that you will find that they are actually quite human, and quite reasonable people.

      If you direct manager is really an idiot (these exist), avoid him. But as you go up thru the levels, you should generally find a higher concentration of cluefull people.


      I have known people who have the same views that you presented above. There is nothing that can hurt a company more, than an employer who believes strongly that the company is just a big monolithic chunk of "evil" that is solely feeding on the skills of the "poor" and "exploited" hard working "worker".


      Just maybe, the company actually appreciates your work. And just maybe, they're a little bit tired of hearing you complain that they're extorting you, shovelling projects at you unfairly, not treating you as a person.


      Just maybe, they actually like the productive little worker that hides behind your seemingly ignorant leftish front.

    7. Re:LMFAO by Pyrosophy · · Score: 1

      All of your replies would work if 1) there were an infinite supply of jobs (or at least a demand for workers rather than positive unemployment in market sectors across the board) and 2) special privileges in companies made way for true, harcore capitalism.

      Neither of these is true. As long as privilege is give to those higher in the hierarchy, that privilege will be used to unknowingly counteract capitalist principles. Why? Not sure, something about power corrupting most likely.

      Your system is fantasy or sometime in the future. It is a survival tactic, true, perhaps even a tactic for prospering in a better market, but don't let that blind you. People are not paid what they are worth, not as long as humans have emotions.

    8. Re:LMFAO by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      My, my. You've obviously not worked long for others.

      ALL COMPANIES ARE WORKER OWNED.

      Um...no. The vast majority of companies are INVESTOR owned. That's why companies do shit like Enron, to boost their stock price to pay back their owners. The rank-and-file workers wouldn't do something so stupid, because they want the company to succeed in the long run, not turn in a great 3Q.

      Employment as agreement among equals.

      Almost never gonna happen. Managers almost always feel superior to the underlings, and always treat them as such.

      Nothing stops you from buying the same health plan as your boss.

      Except 1. Money, 2. The insurance company being willing to issue the policy. I have to work somewhere that has a health plan, because insurance companies will not sell me an individual policy. Really, they won't. I looked.

      You are compensates exactly what you are worth. If you disagree, then find someone else who agrees with your self assessment.

      That doesn't happen either. I've never worked at a company where some pinhead gets carried along by his coworkers. Said pinhead is not paid less than the coworkers that do his work.

      Not to mention when you're in reality, there's things like morgages, children and car payments so flitting off in search of a better paying job isn't something most people can do, and when they overwork the hell out of you you've got no time to do it while working.

      That's called your boss having enough value to have negotiated the ability to miss days of work.

      No, that's the boss doing whatever he wants because there's no one to fire him for it.

      Re: Xmas party: Otherwise known as wanting pathetic gifts of approval

      No, it's management getting a swanky shindig with an open bar, while the people who really make the company money are given bobble-head dolls. It's managment being full of themselves and again considering themselves superior.

      That's called "quitting" and finding another job. If you're unable to find another job, then make yourself more valuable.

      Man, are you in for a shock when you get a real job. And if you come back saying you're in some sort of managment position, I say again, Man, are you in for a shock when you get a real job.

    9. Re:LMFAO by Frymaster · · Score: 2
      previously, pyrosohpy said:
      when I can let my boss go due to "tough" financial times just like I can

      you responded:
      That's called "quitting" and finding another job.

      obviously you understand that in the contract between employee and employer the power held by the employee is the withholding of labour (quitting). so what is your opposition to unionism? it is merely the self-organization of a labour force to consolidate the power of withholding labour for purposes of bargaining with the employers (who are, themselves, organized for the consolidation of power).

      to call labour "lamers" is patently ridiculous. because people do work they are less deserving than those whose primary role is the provision of capital? if you were truly concerned about economic factors that were anti-meritocretous (ie, "elevate lamers") then you would do better to focus your energies on eliminating inheritances, equalizing access to education and removing the barriers of racism and sexism... not griping about labour organization.

    10. Re:LMFAO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up, please.

    11. Re:LMFAO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      unions are bad things that elevate "lamers"?

      you are one majestic dumbass

    12. Re:LMFAO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Computer programmers who sit around whinging about compensation of the CEO and whatnot while not bothering to learn any negotiating skills really tick me off. Learn how to negotiate. Maybe even increase your skills. By negotiating badly, you directly cause all of us to be paid less. Thanks.

    13. Re:LMFAO by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      No negotiations in the world will make a programmer get paid like a CEO. I'm very highly paid for the area I'm in precisely because I know how to negotiate. But I'm not going to get paid 6 figures unless I move to a more expensive place to live.

      The frustration about CEO pay comes from something like the 4 previous companies I worked for: Management makes dumb decisions. Employees warn management of impending doom. Managment sticks with dumb decisions, despite mounting evidence of impending doom. Company goes *splat*. CEO gets golden parachute for being an idiot. Employees get laid off, once with the company still owing me 3 weeks pay.

      If I was this much of an idiot, I'd never work again. But these CEOs keep getting work, because they have experience running a company.

    14. Re:LMFAO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      No negotiations in the world will make a programmer get paid like a CEO.
      Of course not. But so? Your skills are less valued by society than his. Change your skillset if you want his pay and get a job like his. This is the way that things work, there is no point in kvetching about it. You live in this world, not some perfect one where the proletariats get paid more than the factory manager.
      If I was this much of an idiot, I'd never work again. But these CEOs keep getting work, because they have experience running a company.
      This is facutally false. I've worked with a lot of 6 figure programmers that are completely useless. They got the job because they had prior jobs at which they were completely useless. But they have experience in the subject domain. So what? This also is the way that the world works. A well oiled organisation will [hopefully] get rid of these people quickly, but that is not how it generally turns out. But you can't say that this problem is the sole domain of the CEO, it is a general problem that affects every job in all creation.
  271. I work for a temp agency but... by Hott+of+the+World · · Score: 2

    I got a turkey just for being there! 12-30 dollars toward the purchase of a holiday bird! Thats because I work at a company where the ego's arent as huge as the IT industry. Good ole blue chip company. Like my mom always says, the best presents are those that go to the stomach.

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  272. It's not the bobble-head... by madgeorge · · Score: 1

    I have a job, and I feel very lucky for that. But more importantly, I have a job that I like. They can give me a bobble-head for Christmas, or absolutely nothing at all, and I'll still be happy. I left a dot-bomb 6 months ago, and it just feels damn good to work for a profitable company that has fun without wasting tons of money. Now, I understand where you're coming from, though. If you don't like your job, then the small things just keep adding up. My guess is the bobble-head is just one more straw in a large collection of reasons to be dissatisfied. I agree with the few who have suggested doing really rude things with the doll to work out some of your frustration and make a statement at the same time. How about some cute dolly clothes?

  273. Market Power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can the recipients of these choice gifts post some pictures ? Maybe with some in 'creative' poses ?

    If the likeness is good enough that we can recognise the dude in question, he'll look like such an ass and may decide to buy the damn things back.

    As we say down here in Oz 'what an A-grade wanker'.

    Merry Christmas

    PS What is 'bobble-head' ?

    1. Re:Market Power by GuNgA-DiN · · Score: 1

      They look like this: http://www.ruble.org/bobble_head_dolls.html They have a spring in the neck that makes the head "bobble" or bounce around in funny ways. They are cheap toys.

  274. $5-$10 toolkit by deranged+unix+nut · · Score: 2

    This year it was a toolkit, looks to be between $5 and $10. Last year it was some outdoors gear in a similar price range.

    The company I work for has people from many countries and backgrounds, most of my co-workers don't take vacations at Christmas, so it dosen't bother me that the gifts are inexpensive.

    I would be a bit annoyed if they gave me a bobblehead of anyone in the company. I suggest turning it into an art-piece.

  275. what did I get from my company for Christmas? by malus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Layoff announcements. Nice job with the books.

  276. Bean counters killed Xmas bonuses... by Newer+Guy · · Score: 2

    Bean counters killed Xmas bonuses. Their domain is the spreadsheet, and an Xmas bonus is a negative entry along with overtime, moving expenses, paid holidays and vacation. Business lives and dies by numbers these days. Face it, all workers are are numbers too - usually negative numbers. We are liabilities instead of assets. I know of one company that fired their IT person because: "They didn't need an IT person, everything's working great!" This is a perfect example of how short-sighted top managers have become. They think that people are interchangeable. I had a friend who started an IT admin's job and asked if he could call on the old admin. (who had left on good terms and also was available as a consultant if necessary). The manager asked: "Why do you need to do that? A computer is a computer!". We have people making decisions these days who are clueless but don't think they are. This is the most dangerous kind of boss: the kind that think they know more then they really do. Finally, the best story ever told me was by a Chief Engineer friend in the radio business: His station's tower took a direct lightening hit, which caught the 'doghouse' building under the tower on fire, destroying it. The General Manager wanted from him within one week: 1: How many thunderstorms there were going to be in the next year and 2: How much damage each one was going to cost the radio station in dollars. How's that for clueless?

    1. Re:Bean counters killed Xmas bonuses... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem with bean counters is that they see people as liabilities. This is exactly the opposite of the actual truth. Whatever costs is a liability, and whatever puts money in your pocket is an asset. People put money in your pocket. Your people MUST come first if you're a private sector business. Unhappy workers make an unhappy company, which in turn makes much less money, or goes outta business.

      If your business get taken over by a bean counter, RUN, don't walk. Trust me on this!

  277. university's are nifty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i got hooked up with one of those superslick leathermanmanmanman micras, oh yeah, and one of those cool gift certificate slip book things for mickey d's for 5 bucks

    i'm happy

  278. Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got a bizzare 50% raise this year, which is unfortunate since the company will be "closing it's U.S. operations" within the next 3 months ...

  279. Bonus?? Is This My Bonus...??? by carney1979 · · Score: 1

    I got to keep my same old over-worked, under-paid position with probably NO raise this year.

    Lucky me....

    David

  280. What did I get for a Christmas bonus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A pink slip this morning. Merry fucking Christmas, everyone.

  281. Are you kidding me, this is your grip!! by LumberLumber · · Score: 1

    I have not had a full time job in 2 years. You should just count your lucky stars you have a job. Get over it --dan

  282. ho ho ho! by v8interceptor · · Score: 1

    after downsizing in november, we get to help move offices on the saturday before christmas! and of course, for no reward or financial incentive or compensation.

    i should clarify that "we" is the company, and not "i", as "i" will be at home NOT moving, i've given my company more than enough, including behind laid off once and re-employed a month later...

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    --- Why are you wearing that stupid bunny suit? | Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?
  283. I got... by marshac · · Score: 1

    a $20 bill on my inbox from my employer for back "employee fund" dues.

    I'm not sure what the "employee fund" is... is that where our pay checks come from?

    Please no +1 Funny, since this isn't a joke.... I actually got a bill for christams.

  284. a verbal-only promise ... by constantnormal · · Score: 2

    ... that they wouldn't sack any of us until after the 1st of the year.

  285. maybe the guy works for... by beaverfever · · Score: 1
    maybe the anon guy works for alexander global - their CEO has his own bobblehead

    i'll give you a hint: there's an inside joke to this post.

  286. IN SOVIET RUSSIA.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spoiled food eats you!

  287. HA! by hayduke · · Score: 0

    After almost 8 years at the same Human-Computer Interaction design firm, I (along with 6 other people) was laid off. And what did they give me for severence? They gave me a lousy $3500 in serverence, they threw a holiday party for the survivors and serverd day old left over Chinese food from the CEO's step-daughter's birthday party. Real class act.

    ~ hayduke out

    --
    ------------------- a man with a good car needs no justification '93 90S 150K
  288. Trimming the fat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, at least the management now knows who is a waste of space...whoever was part of actually getting those dolls made!!!

    I would rather get a $10 gift certificate to Papa Gino's or some other silly small gift than a stupid doll that would make me made and I'd probably throw out anyhow.

  289. Christmas got cancelled! by onenil · · Score: 1

    Australia's largest retailing group cancelled Christmas on us. We normally have a nice Christmas gig with the whole shebang - this year, the CEO decided it wasn't financially justifiable. And to add salt, he put a stop to any company funding towards any Christmas celebrations whatsoever.

    I guess at least with the doll, you'd have something to take your frustration out on :)

  290. The people I feel sorry for! by icestorm487 · · Score: 1

    The poor sods in the military out on deployment. All they will get is half a day off, if they are lucky, and a crappy meal that they have to stand in line for over half an hour to get leaving them 5 minutes to eat because they only get about half an hour for chow break because they are understaffed.

    I'm just glad I'm not doing that anymore.

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    help?!? in search of sig
    1. Re:The people I feel sorry for! by SmoothOperator · · Score: 2

      Are you kidding? Try living on ration packs for 3 months. And on your day off, that is, if you're not on patrol or on guard duty, you get a permission coupon for 2 beers. Not free beers. You still have to pay for them. But at least you get to BUY two, because it is Christmas after all!

      So bitch all you want. You still have it better than the grunts in the field.

      --

      Veni, vidi, vici.

  291. Halloween next year! by restive · · Score: 1

    Think of all the uses for that doll next year at Halloween!!! A little desk-sized Halloween decoration!

  292. Pigs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Normally we get a whole ham. This year (a drought year) we only get half a ham.

    We also get a compulsory holiday. The whole company shuts down for 2 weeks. Just the same, I find I can get 3 times the work done, and there are some things in IT you just can't fix without shutting down the company, so I usually end up working 1 of the two weeks.

    Department heads might give their own department a Christmas party. Ours does. (He's also the HR head, and pretty good at encouraging/motiviating people).

    Bonuses are bonuses. In Australia many still have "holiday leave loading" - ie extra pay when on holidays. This started in prosperous times as a "nice bonus" to make employees feel appreciated. The problem is, people may be ok about whether to get a NEW bonus or not, but try to take away something they've had for a few years... different story.

  293. What a bunch of whiny people by ElPresidente1972 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Honestly. Don't like it? Go start your own company, take risks, get investors, get paid US$65 million and pay to have a bobblehead doll made of yourself.

    Personally, all the schwag I get that I don't like goes right to charity.

    I'm becoming increasingly convinced that the only real way to know you've "made it" in modern society is when a bobblehead doll gets made of you.

  294. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My boss is a Jehovah's Witness, who don't celerabrate holidays or birthdays or anything fun, therefore it's kind of a no-no to put up christmas decorations & stuff. Wonder if I will even get a christmas bonus...

  295. or... by beaverfever · · Score: 2, Funny

    or maybe the orig poster works at ClubJenna, Inc; the CEO there also has a bobblehead

  296. $2048/month bonus for 6 months!!! by NeepyNoo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh...wait...that's my unemployment compensation from Massachusetts. Never mind.

    1. Re:$2048/month bonus for 6 months!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, in Texas it is only $1382.33. And pity those folks depending on the federal extended benefits (after six months) that the new Republican Congress saw fit to allow to end on Dec. 28th.

      Give a homeless geek a home for Christmas.

  297. Actually... by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 1

    ...I gave my employer a Christmas bonus: my resignation letter. We were acquired by a large company, received no raise this year, and weren't going to receive a year-end bonus. So I figured they needed a bonus. :)

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  298. Speaking of ... by EggplantMan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pink slips, my manager gave me one but I refused to wear it for him. A guy's got to draw the line somewhere.

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    1. Re:Speaking of ... by Tarraq · · Score: 1

      Hmmm... being a freelancer, has the downside of not getting any xmas gifts.. :o/
      Last year I got a gift basket though ...

  299. Pigs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... and our Telco gave me a diary and a bottle of wine. (They want to be our ISP as well).

  300. Since I am happily laid-off... by trentfoley · · Score: 2

    I've decided to give myself the next year off, and the year after that, and the following one too. I hate being interrupted when I'm doing absolutely nothing.

  301. small business by fore1337 · · Score: 1

    Tovaris,
    You've got a special case. Peeps understand the trials and tribulations as a small firm. ...just don't be stupid and buy a company Hum-Vee or something. ...a small ISP in Flagstaff, AZ did that... as their customer service quality immediately dropped, I suspect some cut salaries were to blame. It pisses off the customers as well.

    Keep the 79 chevy pickup around. ...but forecast for long term growth.

  302. Put the doll on eBay!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then, if you tell us where it is, I'm sure you'll get at least a few bucks for it!

    Send your story into fuckedcompany.com

  303. I got a taxi meter... by bartwol · · Score: 1

    ...and now whenever anybody even looks at me, I flip down the handle and charge them by the minute (and mile) for my goodwill.

    I'm just a little worried that if everyone else is as smart as me, they'll get their meters too, and the competition will knock down my take.

    Anyway, Slashdot should pay me for submissions like this.

    <bart

  304. Yet another reason I went independent... by CrashVector · · Score: 1

    Dude,

    A bobble head doll of the CEO? That's pretty friggin lame and VAIN! I'd set it on fire and let itbobble and smoke outside of the CEOs office...

    At my first job out of college we went to the X-Mas lunch with 140 employees. When we came back from lunch most of us had corporate logo watches but 36 people got pink slips. Merry Christmas and Happy job Hunting...

    Anyway I went independent contractor a few years ago and the pay is MUCH better and there are no "to be broken in the future" promises of comp time or stock options. Pay me and I'll write code, all others be gone...

    --Richard

    1. Re:Yet another reason I went independent... by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 1

      Maybe get a bunch of coworkers together and set up a candlelight..errr, bobblelight...vigil outside his office. :P I'm just stepping out into the independent thing myself. I started doing contract work on the side a year ago and just finally got tired of the broken promises and silly games. It's been worth the effort of working two jobs just so I could make the decision to quit.

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  305. hold on a second. by /dev/trash · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There, okay, I'm all better. I was about to call you an ungrateful elistist piece of crap because well you have a job and those of us that don't and have been looking for over a year and can't even get a steady TEMP job, really hate it when people complain about not getting a bonus.

    I worked 3 years at a company and never got a bonus, got a less than 2% raise and had ONE Christmas party, where I had to pay for drinks. Buck up. Three days after Christmas 250000 lose unemployment checks.

  306. I got a pink slip under the Christmas tree... by www.whitehouse.org · · Score: 1

    So... What did you get from your Company for Christmas?"

    Laid off. Last year. Along with 75% of the rest of the company (they kept almost all of the managers and all 28 VPs). Merry Christmas.

    Now I make almost 1/2 the pay, but I'm into the 1st year of a 3 year research grant. Job security at last!

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    1. Re:I got a pink slip under the Christmas tree... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Err, that should be 10 VPs, not that anyone cares... (about VPs)

  307. Screwing with vacation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We are forced to take vacation from Christmas to NY. OK, I can handle that...that's not that uncommon.

    But now, they're decreasing our vacation carry-over every year for a couple years and still trying to make us think they're SO generous.

    Wait until this economy picks up...

  308. My christmas bonus was by Nephroth · · Score: 1

    a pretty decent ham. I can't complain they did hire me as a freshman in college banking on the skills i demonstrated as an intern for three months this summer. In six months they are paying for the rest of my education and are buying me a badass fujitsu lifebook for personal use (as in i own it, it isnt' company property) They are paying my bills and it's a nice enough job that a ham is a good enough bonus for me.

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  309. Bonuses are a must by wrttnwrd · · Score: 1

    I've given my staff bonuses every year, including this one. People keep telling me bonuses are 'outdated' because they don't reflect performance.

    I think that's a load of crapola. How can someone not deserve an extra check after working the year?

    Real question is, did management get a bonus? Of course they did...

    1. Re:Bonuses are a must by marcushnk · · Score: 1

      I don't agree with you..
      I work.
      I get paid for the work I do.
      If I do over time I get given time off in thanks for the over time I do ( about 6:1 ).
      I don't expect the company of whom work for to fork out a "gift" for me because of a holiday that was started by some other blokes religion. (me being an atheist)

      Why should the company give something for nothing?
      Where is the accountability in that?

      I work my arse off for this comnpany.. I'm on call 24/7
      Yet I still think that these "bonus's" are a waste, and don't help anyone..

      Anyone who has been in a leader postion or work with HR will tell you.. it doesn't matter how much the gift is worth, or how often you give them... it will NEVER be enough..
      You have to work WITH people, not bribe them.

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    2. Re:Bonuses are a must by wrttnwrd · · Score: 1

      It's not a bribe. It's saying 'thanks'.

      Yeah, they work for me. I pay them to work for me. I don't pay them, though, to check on a site on a weekend to make sure it's OK, or skip a lunch or go home late or come in early because we're on a deadline. That's above and beyond the call and my staff do it because they're passionate about their work. It still warrants a reward.

      I AM in a leader position. Bonuses are a matter of managing expectations - my staff understand that salary is what you get for doing the job competently. A bonus is what you get because, at the end of the year, I can say 'I enjoyed working with this person this year.' I know it sounds hopelessly cliche, but there you have it.

    3. Re:Bonuses are a must by marcushnk · · Score: 1

      I think I may have come off a bit raw there..

      I understand what your saying and where your heading.. and good on you..
      My main bitch was really at others on this forum.. they're all bitching about the crap they got..

      but there you have it.. we all expect different things from our employers/employee's.

      You sound like a good manager.. don't want to hire an aussie Sys Admin do you? ;-)

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    4. Re:Bonuses are a must by wrttnwrd · · Score: 1

      Heh. No, you're OK.

      I gotta admit this is a pet peeve for me. During the boom I had to compete with companies paying 10x what people were worth. Now everyone else is slashing their staff, benefits and bonuses, and they're telling me I'm too generous!

      But if you (generic you, not YOU) go to work somewhere for stock options and the like and then get your bonus cut when times are tough, well, you made that bed...

  310. extra vacation (kind of) by FuryG3 · · Score: 1

    My company forced it's employees to take vacation from the 16th on to the 1st. Thus taking up all vaction accrued over the past year, so that they don't have to roll it over or pay us for it. It's like a negative bonus. Even if I had saved all my vacation for this year, I would still be out several days pay.

    To make matters worse, I'm part of the consulting division. I have regular maintenance agreements that I had to fill. Thus shoving a months worth of work into 2 weeks. I got a bit of overtime, I sure would have rather worked normal weeks (normal in this economy is still difficult) and taken some vacation when I wanted to or better yet recieved some pay.

  311. In the hotel industry. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We get an extra $50.00 USD check every year. I suppose we'll get the same thing in 2002.

    Galland

  312. Gift certificate by GigsVT · · Score: 1

    We get $25 gift certificates for the local grocery store.

    Seriously.

    I guess that's what I get for working in manufacturing.

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  313. plastic Pen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    We all got a plastic pen with the company name on it.

    Same thing as last year,

  314. Bobble Trouble by toounknown · · Score: 1

    Hmm. There could be a hidden message here. Perhaps the CEO is trying to say something about himself. Getting a stupid-looking bobble likeness of anyone would at least give me the message that this person is a dumb twit, regardless of who they are.

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  315. Steel Battalion! by EvlG · · Score: 2

    I work at a game company, and this year I got Steel Battalion for my XBOX (which was actually an early Christmas gift the company gave to each employee)! I am pretty stoked.

    Times aren't bad everywhere; there is hope yet.

  316. What I got for Christmas..... by SETIGuy · · Score: 2
    I got a wage and hiring freeze. As a bonus, I get to give a friend his walking papers.

    This is the year to be happy you've got a paycheck and some money in your 401k.

  317. Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by 0x0d0a · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Use it as a voodoo doll and stick pins in the wretched thing!

    This kind of statement, "funny" though it may be, is a pretty good reflection of the current (IMHO stupid) feelings of a lot of people on Slashdot, judging from their comments.

    A bonus is a special reward -- an employee did something really exceptional and their employer wanted to show their appreciation.

    A bonus is *not* something that an employer is required or expected to give to an employee. If you wanted more *salary*, you should have negotiated it.

    I'm not sure at what point workers started feeling that they were "entitled" to this gift. A Christmas bonus is a nice idea, but it certainly isn't something guaranteed. And, readers, if you're relying on it to support your finances around Christmas time, harsh as this may sound, you deserve whatever's coming. It's time for some actual financial management.

    1. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by rnd() · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're exactly right. The person who submitted the story has a rotten attitude and is lucky to have kept his job this long. If you want a bonus, then save a few bucks each paycheck or negotiate one with HR. If those approaches fail, then take your skills out on the job market and find a company that pays bonuses.

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    2. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Informative

      if they hadn't got anything, that would have been better than using money on dolls of the ceo.

      a doll of ceo is just a stupid joke, and if the ceo couldnt figure that out the company should really be fuckedupcompany. you can't really even give the doll of the ceo as toy for your kids/relatives/anybody.

      also, xmas bonuses are 'excepted' in some branches of industry, so they are actually sometimes even part of excepted salary, as much as BEING part of salary , sure they're named 'bonuses' is stupid then, but that's just a tradition and generally makes people feel good about them as they are 'extra free money', which it of course in reality isn't.

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    3. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by pyros · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't take the posters comments to mean a bonus was expected. Rather that the gift was insulting. I would be insulted by that gift. Consider that the company had to spend money to buy the things to give to employees. Personally, I'd rather have the cash or nothing.

    4. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by s88 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      While I totally agree with you... I pose the question: "Do you tip at restaurants?"

    5. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

      Generally, yes. And if the service was bad (I remember a notable case of a platter of spaghetti being spilled all over, for example), no.

      The analogy isn't entirely accurate, either. Wrkers aren't really paid enough without their tips. The tips likely form a majority of their pay. The business model essentially dictates that a portion of your bill is simply paid differently. This is not the case for regular employees expecting a Christmas bonus -- if that Christmas bonus is comprising the majority of their pay, something is seriously unusual.

    6. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by kavau · · Score: 1

      Jeez, someone should remove the stick from your butt! Yes, the poster mentions bonuses, but only as a side remark. To me it sounds like he's mainly offended by the utter tastelessness of the christmas gift. A company that wants to show some appreciation to their employees could at least go through the effort of selecting a nice christmas gift, even if it's just a box of chocolates or something like that. That would at least be a nice gesture. But a bobble head of the boss? C'mon! This strikes me as tasteless, arrogant, and silly! I'd pe pissed, too, and the Voodoo doll idea wouldn't seem so bad after all...

    7. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by radish · · Score: 2

      Except of course for those sectors (I'm thinking of mine, the financial services industry) where bonuses typically make up 50-90% of your total take-home pay. They have long since moved from a few hundred bucks/quid/yen/euros at the end of the year to many thousands. The base salary for say, a stock trader, isn't that amazing. What is amazing is the 500% (at the conservative end) bonus in december. Now of course in the current climate these bonuses are dropping like flies (as you rightly point out, they are not guaranteed, but they ARE expected), and a lot of people around here are losing an awful lot of money.

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    8. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by sjames · · Score: 2

      As a side note, the fact that the CEO approved that shows a fine sense of humor.

      I agree completely with your comment. I thought part of growing up was realizing that it's not about the stuff under the tree or big piles of cash in a card. I might ask the querant, what did he get his CEO for Christmas?

    9. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 1

      The person who submitted the story has a rotten attitude and is lucky to have kept his job this long.

      That's why it was written by "a wisely anonymous reader".

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    10. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by sjames · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think the joke was probably worth more than the doll cost. It took a lot more thought than a mug w/ the company logo for example. Sounds like a few commentors here should have gotten a gold tone lump of coal for a bonus.

    11. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should think about what you say! You are probably management. Think about those network engineers that say very late or even work 24 hours straight. Do they get overtime? I think probably not! Salary seems to be your word. And what is it that management does that always gets them a bonus? I have sat on both sides. The difference here is I have not forgotten what it is like tob e in the normal work force......one last word...SCRODGE

    12. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by Raiford · · Score: 3, Insightful
      What you are saying is true. Bonuses are not entitlemnts for employees. What I think you are hearing is that some employers are not giving bonuses at all even if deserved. This is probably a sign of the times (hard times) however after a few years of indulgence, employers are now being perceived as stingy. It doesn't help when upper management does not give the perception that cuts and sacrifices are made at the upper levels too.

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    13. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by Raiford · · Score: 1
      I have adopted a new policy at holiday time with my employer. I will not attend a Holiday party. I get enough of the people at work at work. I have no real desire to spend my time away from work with the people I see everyday. We don't get bonuses either (at all) regardless of how spectacular a job you do.

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    14. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by keepr · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I am on salary where I work and I was told I would get Quarterly bonuses. I have yet to receive one of theese mystical checks, None of my co-workers have recevied them either.. I have been promoted 2 times in the last year, I guess I am doing a good job, Yet no bonus!

      One of our managers slipped up one day when a computer was stolen and stated "Damnit! that's going to come out of our bonus again" This leads us to believe only upper managment is receiving a bonus although we were all told we would be getting a bonus quarterly..

      We commonly hear " You guys need to get sales up or we will not have a bonus this quater " Then we hear nothing!! Not even hey we didn't make enough to give out a bonus this quarter, nothing..

      Yes we should ask about our bonus, but honestly I think we all fear our current economy and don't want to make any waves, But is it not wronge for them to simply dismiss something we were told we would receive? When I took my job I figured in my salary + my vacation + my estimated bonus.. All the sudden I feel robbed when I reflect on it. Especially when I am praised for the great work I am doing, if I want lip service I will go on a date.

      Let me close by saying, I like my job. In fact I have turned down higher paying positions simply because I like my working environment. But when times get tight I start to ask myself if I should be looking for employment elsewhere.

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    15. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by The+AtomicPunk · · Score: 1

      I hope you're not surprised. This is what we do now. We were born, and by god, somebody better hand us a big fat paycheck, not expect us to work very hard for it, and to forgive us for racking up six figures of debt on our credit cards.

      WE DESERVE IT!

    16. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by MacAndrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Insufficient cyncism! Here, the left wing can give the right a drubbing:

      I'm not sure at what point workers started feeling that they were "entitled" to this gift.

      The calculating view: Nothing your employer never gives you is a gift. It is compensation for services rendered or incentive cultivation of good will. Either way, the employer deducts it and the employee is taxed on it, with certain minor exceptions for gifts worth less than $25 and the like. According to the IRS, employer-to-employee gifts simply don't happen, and I don't think we should be any less stoic.

      As for bonuses being per se gratuitous, that's not so perhaps because the popular understanding of bonus bridges over into year-end compensation. An incentive bonus between employers and employees as an express or implied part of the work relationship can not be withheld on caprice -- it's merely delayed compensation. Entitlement to a future bonus may be valid even post-termination: employers sometimes illegally fire employees to avoid paying benefits.

      In short, in some cases the expectation of bonus is morally justified; in more severe cases it may be a legally actionable entitlement. In rare cases the discriminatory or abritrary administration of a bonus system may also be illegal (racist, sexist, and so on).

      But I digress because of the compulsion to be thorough. My philosophical advice: Remember, it's not a gift, it's compensation.

      Your comment is a reflection of the unfortunate and legally inaccurate attitude that employers are doing you a favor by giving you a job, bonuses, and so on -- while also acting as though employment contracts were negotiated among equals. Which is it?

      And, readers, if you're relying on it to support your finances around Christmas time, harsh as this may sound, you deserve whatever's coming.

      Sure, and you may also deserve that bonus coming. And I don't mean a fuck-you bobbing doll of your wealthy CEO, fit only for target practice. (OK, perhaps that was the writer's due reward; I'm being charitable.) What the writer apparently feels is a moral betrayal. It's hard to judge reasonableness without knowing enough details, but the decision could go either way. If it looks likely this crap will continue regardless of work performance, I'd recommend updating the resume.

    17. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But if some are getting bonuses, and it's not based on hard merit, everyone 'should'. I'd crush that bobblehead doll and make it look like an accident, and encourage co-workers to do likewise.

    18. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know what company you work for but lots of fortune 500 companies include yearly, aka xmas, bonuses as part of their "total compensation" calculations. Big corps love to use bonuses this way because it lets them keep base salaries lower than they would be otherwise and thus makes it harder for employees to chabge employers and get an icrease in income because all the big HR departments want to use previous salary as a starting point for negotiations.

      It's all part of the "war on the middle-class" and you have clearly bought their propoganda hook, line and sinker.

    19. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by 0x0d0a · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Here, the left wing can give the right a drubbing

      Ooogh. I always seem to dislike the ideals of both the left and right wings...unions and religious nuts. Ick.

      The calculating view: Nothing your employer never gives you is a gift. It is compensation for services rendered or incentive cultivation of good will.

      [shrug] Sure, and if you look at some of my other posts in this story (like the HR department being happy to drop you like a hot potato), you'll see that I agree. "Gift" works well for illustrating the degree of expectation that one should have for a bonus, though.

      Either way, the employer deducts it and the employee is taxed on it, with certain minor exceptions for gifts worth less than $25 and the like.

      This is criticism of some sort of business-centric government, I'm assuming, since you're taking the "left wing" approach? Nah. There's no conspiracy. If a bonus is beneficial to you, you can afford to make a larger, flashier bonus.

      According to the IRS, employer-to-employee gifts simply don't happen, and I don't think we should be any less stoic.

      As I said, I don't consider it truly a gift, but from the employee's point of view, that's the degree of reliability that should be assigned. And whatever the IRS wants to classify something as has little bearing on what it actually is -- there's too much money involved in bonuses for the IRS not to have fun regulating things.

      As for bonuses being per se gratuitous, that's not so perhaps because the popular understanding of bonus bridges over into year-end compensation. An incentive bonus between employers and employees as an express or implied part of the work relationship can not be withheld on caprice -- it's merely delayed compensation. Entitlement to a future bonus may be valid even post-termination: employers sometimes illegally fire employees to avoid paying benefits.

      Sure. And while I'm sure it's happened at some point, I've never heard of a Christmas bonus (particularly for any specific amount) being granted either expressly or implied.

      In short, in some cases the expectation of bonus is morally justified

      Come on, now. A *moral* justification? You're opening a can of worms -- are *your* morals the same as others?

      in more severe cases it may be a legally actionable entitlement

      You still need to provide your "express or implied part of the work relationship" element.

      In rare cases the discriminatory or abritrary administration of a bonus system may also be illegal (racist, sexist, and so on).

      True (though that complaint is ridiculously overused in the United States), but that doesn't really have bearing on what we're talking about here -- a doll instead of a fat cash bonus.

      But I digress because of the compulsion to be thorough. My philosophical advice: Remember, it's not a gift, it's compensation.

      It's an incentive, but not an agreed-upon form of compensation.

      Your comment is a reflection of the unfortunate and legally inaccurate attitude that employers are doing you a favor by giving you a job, bonuses, and so on -- while also acting as though employment contracts were negotiated among equals. Which is it?

      I do not agree. A favor of giving you a job? They're trying to maximize their own bottom line...and the same goes for bonuses. You can't reasonably have extrapolated to this degree simply from my use of the word "gift".


      Sure, and you may also deserve that bonus coming.


      Do you "deserve" it? I see the moral can o' worms coming again. "Deserving" something is a wonderful tool to use in an argument, because it's so fantastically ill-defined, and because people tend to have fairly self-centric views on what is "deserved". Wendy and Miki may both feel that they "deserve" the big, orange _____, and there is no resolution to the problem that doesn't leave one feeling that she's been stiffed.

      What the writer apparently feels is a moral betrayal. /me grins. That isn't much of a justification. Tell me, how many people here feel that you're "paid enough" for your work? Or perhaps you feel that you're "overpaid" for your work? I think that few people would say this -- most people I've talked to feel that their talents are underappreciated. Yet, when the plumber comes to fix your flooding living room, don't you get a nagging feel that *he* is "overpaid"? Morality is a wonderfully distorted thing that you can use to support almost any argument. The Crusades were supported on moral grounds. Tell me, without using vague moral arguments, why it is reasonable, or a good idea, for this person to *expect* that bonus?

      If it looks likely this crap will continue regardless of work performance, I'd recommend updating the resume.

      Oh, criminy. You're willing to say this without knowing what his salary and benefits *already* are?

    20. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by jayhawk88 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly. The company I work for has a habit of giving out "gifts" during Employee Appreciation Week, which of course are typically cheap, plastic, and not really wanted. One year they gave out license plates with "(Company)'s Employees are the Best!" printed on them. Another year we got these little clocks that are supposed to look like those fancy executive-type desk clocks with the stands and "minimal" black design, except these were plastic and tend not to keep very accurate time.

      This past year we got roll-up blankets, which from what I hear is the best Employee Appreciation Week gift ever. This must be a techie thing: I know some people probably get off on stuff like this, but I could really care less. You want to "Appreciate" me, give me a half-day off or something.

    21. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by EvilBudMan · · Score: 1

      I personally would rather get raises than bonuses. I got $1000 mid year. Last year I $1500 at Christmas plus two weeks pay, plus $500 cash in $100 bills, a turkey, and a 15 years of service jacket. That's makes it a make or break day for me. We've done well this year but we could still get shafted becuase everyone else in our industry has done poorly. So I don't whining is sorry in all case when that kind of money is envolved in one day. It makes you nervous.

    22. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by Maudib · · Score: 1

      Sorry... but it really depends on the industry. As an out of work programmer so desperate that I am now working as an administrative assistant through a temp agency, I found that there is a "customay" bonus in CT of $25.

      On the other hand my girlfriend is in the financial sector. Her firm fires people so often, and verbally abuses everyone so badly that if you survive a year there is a "customary" bonus of 40% of salary (average). On the other hand as profits were down to 10% this year, they will probably only get 25%.

      They refer to this as combat pay, as management is quite aware that theirs is one of the most horrifying work environments in corporate America.

      The strange thing is that even though the work environment is as diffifult as a tour in nam, no care because they get paid incredable sums in bonuses (even the secretaries). The result is that even in the current economic climate, they are turning over ten percent profit.

    23. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by MacAndrew · · Score: 2

      Stumbling sarcasm -- is that really the best you can do?

      There goes your bonus.

    24. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by KrunchTime · · Score: 1

      The original poster on this thread is absolutely correct on all points. But have you considered the reasons behind a company choosing to give a bonus over, say a pay rise. In many cases bonuses replace pay.

      The nice thing about a bonus from a company's perspective is that it is completely optional. Therefore when times are hard or the employee is felt to be underperforming the cash can be witheld.

      The unfortunate side effect of regular bonuses is that many employees do come to expect them. I find it perfectly understandable that people would be annoyed not to receive cash they thought was due. After all, if it was normal pay then they would definitely get it.

      Then again a bonus is not and should not be considered normal pay. Every employee should bear this in mind when negotiating for a new job or a pay rise.

      The best way to deal with bonuses is to plan as though you were not going to receive them. This way you will feel happy if you get one and won't give a damn if you don't.

      Remember you agreed to a pay structure including a non-guaranteed bonus, it's up to you to deal with it properly, especially when you don't receive it! If you find you don't like the bonus concept in hard times then, like the original poster said, negotiate higher pay or find a job that will provide higher normal pay in place of a bonus.

      In the meantime, it's a very bad idea to react negatively to not receiving a bonus. Your bosses will essentially treat the complaint in the same way as the original poster of this thread. They might also use it to label you a whiner. This does not tend look good on a career history.

      Finally, as to a company giving a 'doll', well that's kind of adding insult to injury (at least, if you consider not receiving a bonus injury). I suggest you try the garbage compactor or bury it with a formal ceremony. Hell invite your co-workers and have a group funeral for the dolls. The important thing, whatever you do, is to enjoy the moment and get it out of your system so you can get on with life and enjoy the holidays.

    25. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by FuegoFuerte · · Score: 2

      I fully agree. Heck, I'm currently working a min. wage job... most people in the company make min. wage (before rather small comissions... it's retail). Even the lowest of the low employees who have been with the company for any time at all get a nice gratuity... for those under 21, a box of nice chocolates or fancy cookies or whatever... usually from Costco. For those over 21, it's Wine, Whiskey, or Other, Other being the aforementioned chocolates/cookies/etc. They may not cost a lot, but it's still a nice gesture, shows some appreciation for the otherwise slavish work we tend to do. It makes us happy to get such things. If we were to get a bobble-head doll of the owner, we would NOT be happy. In fact, our reaction would probably be to take all the bobble-head dolls and join them together in many compromising positions, take pictures, and proceed to post them to the company web page shortly before calling up the owner, telling him to play a quick game of "hide and go f* yourself", and then walking out the door telling them to mail our last paycheck.

    26. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by floydigus · · Score: 2

      A bonus is *not* something that an employer is required or expected to give to an employee.

      My heart bleeds for the poor corporations whose nasty, greedy employees keep making them feel guilty about sharing the money!

      Many companies - especially financials - pay a significant portion of their employees' remuneration in the form of bonuses. In this case it is certainly required and expected and quite probably committed to by the company. The cynical might even suggest that these companies pay their employees in this manner just so that they can cut pay at will.

      Other companies which have a long standing policy of giving bonuses are obliged by courtesy and decency to continue doing so or explain themselves.

      If people rely on this money, then they should damn well expect it and it should damn well be given, too.

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    27. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think this response is pretty arrogant. (The writer must have been a manager-speak drone type.) There is typically an understanding that bonus will be awarded at institutions that are 'for profit'. Regardless, I believe that the spirit of the article is that there is quite a division between the 'workers' and the 'management'. In my organization, for instance, does not give bonuses as it is 'not for profit' and because of the 'bad economy' has changed the scale for raises - now, if you get the highest score possible on your review, you will only get 3%. This seemed acceptable with the 'bad economy' and all until a local paper ran a story on salary and raises for local 'not for profit' officers. Imagine what the 'workers' felt when they saw that the officers in this organization got at least a 44% raise each (that is to say that 44% was the least of the raises). Sure, you can say 'well, in this economy you're lucky to have a job' - but tell me - what's so damned lucky about having to work just shy of 80 hours a week without any extra pay due to the 'bad economy' - while other's make well over half a million for attending board meetings. The system is broke. Something should be done. I am not sure what, but something.

    28. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by sql*kitten · · Score: 2

      I am on salary where I work and I was told I would get Quarterly bonuses. I have yet to receive one of theese mystical checks, None of my co-workers have recevied them either.. I have been promoted 2 times in the last year, I guess I am doing a good job, Yet no bonus!

      I worked for a company like this once. Almost every day we would be encouraged to work harder, to save money etc in order to earn the quarterly bonus, which was calculated both on revenue and profit. Of course, profit is whatever the accountant says it is, since it's very easy to shuffle expenses back and forth by a few months, or to spend money on unnecessary things. So, we'd often make the revenue target, but mysteriously only 99% of the profitability target... so no bonus. Of course, that sort of trick only works for a couple of quarters, then the employees start to realize that the only way they're going to see anything is to pad expense reports, take long lunches, steal office supplies, and it ends up costing the company far more than paying the bonuses fairly would have. But managers who would try to screw their employees like that are far too stupid to realize this.

      I made a decision back then that when I started my own company, no-one's getting screwed. Not because I'm overly sentimental, but because screwing the people who generate your revenue is just counterproductive.

    29. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by handorf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Correct, a bonus is for exceptional behavior.

      Quick: What do you think the CEO got as his contractual, required bonus that year?

      In this age of outrageous executive salarys (STILL, even in the age of gargantuan bankrupcys and frauds) and large layoffs at the same time, giving employees a bobble head of the CEO is an incredible slap in the face.

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    30. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't so much as call this a bonus as I would call this an insult. I don't get a christma bonus and that doesn't bother me in the least. It's really bout the PHB thinking more of himself than he should. I have no idea what the cost would be to have a bobble head made of yourself but I'm sure it isn't cheep. IMO the PHB would have been better off to just pocket the cash. More than likly he though it would be a cool thing to do than think about the message he is trying to send.

      As far as paying for parking, the meal was free right? If paying for parking really bothers you just don't go.

    31. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by Blkdeath · · Score: 2
      A bonus is a special reward -- an employee did something really exceptional and their employer wanted to show their appreciation.

      I do agree with your sentiment, however I also believe that the morale of a company suffers greatly when the employees are given some form of novelty item while management is lavished with fancy dinners, parties, cruises or other nicities and/or a celebratory raise to comemorate a good year. Employees are the cogs that make a company function; management are the people who (are supposed to) hold it all together (mostly, in my experience, they just hold (catered) meetings about how things are being held together.)

      If a company is going to give some form of years-end bonus to their employees and management, they should either meet in the middle with moderate gifts for everyone, or not give anything at all.

      At my last job, it was really refreshing when management would order pizza for us (to show appreciation for the hard work we'd been doing for the past few weeks), but it was especially nice that they sat with us and ate the same food we were eating. No caviar, finger foods, or imported seafood; just Pizza Pizza; some vegetarian, some meat, some pepperoni. It made them seem more human to us, and helped us continue slaving away for them in the weeks that followed.

      Total cost; about $200 for our department. Net gain; priceless.

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      Shameless plug. Like you weren't expecting it.

    32. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The issue isn't really about whether or not they deserve a Christmas bonus. It's about the company being hypocrites. If they want to give us a bonus, GREAT. If they don't want to give us a bonus, that's their choice. But to give out cheezy dollar-store crap, or that bloody bobble-head doll and call it a "bonus" (especially when Christmas bonuses are commonly understood to be anything remotely season-related such as turkeys, geese, gift certs. or just cash, cash, cash) shows a total lack of value for the employee. "Here, you're so stupid you won't really see that this "gift" is valueless. You got a bonus, now shut up!".

      If you want to give me a bonus, give me something I will appreciate (even a $10 sears cert is better than nothing). If you can't afford a bonus, don't give one. But don't try to pontificate about what nice guys you are because you gave me a puzzle from a dollar store. That ain't a Christmas bonus, particularly as the term is commonly understood. And I'm not stupid enough to believe it.

    33. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by testpoint · · Score: 1

      I made a decision back then that when I started my own company, no-one's getting screwed.

      When you start your own company you will quickly see that you are the one who will get screwed. The employer's (i.e. you) contribution to federal and state unemployment taxes, medicare, social security and a myriad of other state and local taxes for your employees are mandatory even if you pay yourself nothing. The tax on the first dollar earned for most self-employed is more than 70% and, in certain cases, can exceed 100%.
      You are absolutely correct. Screwing the people who generate the revenue is counterproductive. Unfortunately, most politicians haven't figured that out.

    34. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you work for Fiserv...

      My first year we got these nifty-as-in-useful radio/cassette players. The next year? A freakin' cheap-ass Christmas ornament with the company name on it. Now we get a little catalog full of stuff from the "Nothing Over A Dollar, No Brands You've Ever Heard Of" store and get to pick the least useless P.O.S. for ourselves. How nice.

      Of course, the Christmas catalog is only slightly worse than the junk in the 1,3,5,etc years-of-service catalog. Feh!

    35. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by macrom · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You want to "Appreciate" me, give me a half-day off or something.

      Here's a better idea : send something to the wife and 9-month-old daughter that I've neglected while working 15 hour days slaving to ship a product that that's been plagued with management problems. Me, I'm just glad being gainfully employed, but my family deserves a little something for the patience they've had with me being at work a ton.

      I worked at a company once that bought the wives flowers and dinner at a local restaurant right before crunch time. It went a long way in pacifying the spouses, which means employees are happier and more likely to tolerate working long hours. Wish more companies would get a clue like that, and not just at Christmas time.

    36. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      This past year we got roll-up blankets
      They are probably going to turn off the heat.

    37. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by plasmasurfer · · Score: 0
      You are probably a member of the pointy-haired herd.
      ___________________________________________ ______


      Peritissimos semper praevidere possumus, rudi autem periculosi sunt.

      Professionals are predictable, it's the amateurs who are dangerous.

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    38. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most people are promised bonuses in the offer letter provided you give "satisfactory or excellent" job performance, at hire time. If you are told all the time by your manager that you are doing an "excellent" job, then get screwed out of your bonus, it tends to piss you off.

      Especially when you work late hours and weekends to get projects done by the deadline and do a great job to boot. I don't count that as bitching, I count that as legitimately righteous outcry.

      You are probably one of the asshole management types that regularly screws people out of their bonuses, so yours can be fatter. F*** you and your bretheren. You will all burn in your own hell eventually. Downsizing affects managers too: ) I hope you are the first to go.

    39. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by DaytonCIM · · Score: 2

      Your absolutely correct: bonuses are never a guarantee. However, a bobblehead resembling the boss (especially if said boss preaches corporate economic woe, but takes a bonus) is insulting.

      Personally, my company is not in position this year to give cash bonuses. Instead our management team decided to give the entire company the 23rd off (giving all of us a 5 day weekend, paid).

    40. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a target bonus. So, yes, my 'bonus' is actually a part of the salary I negotiated. Company does good, I get more money. Company doesn't do well, I get less money.

    41. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by BigJimSlade · · Score: 2

      I know the clocks you speak of. I work for a contracting company and worked extensively in the office for some time. During that time, we moved to a new office location and showered me with "gifts" from years past, including one of those clocks. When I set the clock on the table a little too hard, both the hands on the clock fell off!

      As for this year, we got a paperweight. I think they got it in a package when we "rebranded" the company. I guess I can cross that off my Christmas list for Santa.

    42. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by egriebel · · Score: 1
      This kind of statement, "funny" though it may be, is a pretty good reflection of the current (IMHO stupid) feelings of a lot of people on Slashdot, judging from their comments.
      <snip> I'm not sure at what point workers started feeling that they were "entitled" to this gift. A Christmas bonus is a nice idea, but it certainly isn't something guaranteed. And, readers, if you're relying on it to support your finances around Christmas time, harsh as this may sound, you deserve whatever's coming. It's time for some actual financial management.
      Lighten up, Francis. Management wants it both ways. When we are hired, "they" want us to believe that bonus is part of the compensation, which is why they don't give us a bigger salary. Then, they come around and say that they never promised anything, suck it up. Great way to treat your most valuable asset, hmm?
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    43. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by jstott · · Score: 1
      A bonus is *not* something that an employer is required or expected to give to an employee. If you wanted more *salary*, you should have negotiated it.

      Depends where you work; someplace like investment banking and your bonus can easily be 150% of your base salary. This is the norm-the size of the bonus is directly related to how well the company as a whole did.

      A bonus is a special reward -- an employee did something really exceptional and their employer wanted to show their appreciation.

      I'm sure all of senior management did something really exceptional this year and none of the drones did anything useful. I'm sure that's the real reason the CEO's bonus went up and the drones are getting the bobble heads.

      -JS

      --
      Vanity of vanities, all is vanity...
    44. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

      When we are hired, "they" want us to believe that bonus is part of the compensation, which is why they don't give us a bigger salary.

      Bush would also like you to believe that his energy initiatives are for the good of everyone. You aren't required to buy into anyone's stories. If someone tells you "you can get big bonuses", take that at face value -- you may well *not* get any bonus at all.

    45. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ouch... Reading that gave me a headache. You know just enough english to be dangerous.
      Not your fault since you're not a native speaker, but your english is just broken enough to make me hit the potholes at full speed.

    46. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by yzf600 · · Score: 1
      Ok, so a bonus is a special reward. Something you get when your company wants to show their appreciation for the excellent work you have done.
      Explain how John W. Snow, CEO of CSX, can get the money he made off his bonuses considered as "salary" when calculating his pension plan returns. This implies he was "entitled" to bonuses.

      Shares in his company have fallen 53 percent from their 1997 high; under-performing compared to other stocks in his industry. This doesn't sound like he did an excellent job to me. Check out this NY Times article for more details.

      Personally, I feel like I am entitled to a bonus at my company. When the CEO is able to get a bonus this year, why can't I?. If our company is doing crappy, then everyone should suck it up and go without bonuses.

    47. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This sounds like management has a bonus allocation. They get discretion over who gets what bonuses, and then the remainder is kept for determining their bonuses. Together, if they see a small allocation, all managers can decide to avoid distributing bonuses to their employees so the remainder is larger for them... I've seen this exact type of thing, even once heard a guy talking about it like he and his cohorts were super slick for figuring this out.

    48. Re:Whining about Christmas bonuses is pretty sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'll need the blanket when they fire you and you're living in your car.

  318. Christmas Bobble Head doll by Madiba · · Score: 1

    You know what I got for Xmas? I walked out of a client meeting 3000 miles away from my CEO, and he called me on my cellphone to tell me my job was evaporating in a whiff of disinvestment.

    1. Re:Christmas Bobble Head doll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I walked out of a client meeting 3000 miles away from my CEO, and he called me on my cellphone to tell me my job was evaporating in a whiff of disinvestment.

      So, did you type this or is this the output from some random string generator? It doesn't seem to express a coherent thought.

  319. Time off... by Modern+Hamlet · · Score: 1

    You know what I get this Christmas?

    The day off. Without pay.

    Cry me a river.

    tom

  320. huh? by binarybum · · Score: 1

    So where is the link to the website with pics of horrible things being inflicted upon this bobble-doll??

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  321. What company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Assuming this isn't just a factless troll, what company does the "wisely anonymous reader" work for? Clearly if the CEO is making $65M+, it's a fairly sizeable company and there must be others here who were the proud recepients of the bobblehead?

    I just want to make sure that I take this into account should I ever be offered a job there (Sort of a moderation... "-1 shithead CEO").

  322. What'd I get? by drdanny_orig · · Score: 1

    Laid off. It was before Thanksgiving, but I consider that the start of the holidays, don't you? So yes, I'd say you're damned lucky you got a bobble-doll.

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    .nosig
  323. Danish butter cookies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I got a 4 lb tin of danish butter cookies, and a largish Hickory Farms party box.

    urrrrrp! 'scuse me.

  324. This guy works at GE... by xanthig · · Score: 1

    Or one of it's subsideries. GE invented the 1-2-3 system, and has been screwing everyone with it for years.

    1. Re:This guy works at GE... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you could like, DESCRIBE it so we could all know what the H E double hockey sticks this 1 2 3 system is.

  325. WORD dude by fore1337 · · Score: 1

    I'm floored to have a job. Friends are being given pink slips, and headed back to school for the holidays.

    If your company's got the dough to hand out a bobble head, THAT'S a good sign your company doesn't need to do layoffs.

    "god's in his heaven, all's right with the world"
    -Evangelion

  326. A prostitute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My boss setup for prostitutes to accompany a few of the guys, including myself, at the holiday party. It was great! Btw i'm posting anonymously to preserve karma.

    1. Re:A prostitute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that would probably be more correctly called an "escort"

    2. Re:A prostitute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A whore by any other name would still smell just as rank...

  327. What I got..... by tbob419 · · Score: 1

    a lousy $200 with taxes taken out....oh well.. at least I still have a job.

  328. Rich get richer, and the rest are working poor by edstromp · · Score: 1
    This seems to be a good place for a few quotes...

    United for a Fair Economy

    If the minimum wage had risen at the same rate as executive pay over the last three daces, it would stand at nearly $41 an hour as opposed to $5.15. (Institute for Policy Studies/United for a Fair Economy, April 23, 1998)

    The richest 1% in the United States now own 40% of the wealth. Federal Reserve Survey of Consumer Finances (1997)

    "We can either have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." - Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis

    "Plato told Aristotle no one should make more than five times the pay of the lowest member of society. J.P. Morgan said 20 times. Jesus advocated a negative differential - that's why they killed him." - Graef Crystal (1998)

  329. Secret Santa by daaan · · Score: 1

    I'm just on my way to our christmas party in about an hour.

    we are doing a "secret santa" thing, everyone draws a name out of a hat, and has to buy something for the person who's name you drew.

    sounds good right? yeah, until they tell you that you have to buy 8 things for the person, and that you cannot spend more than $5 CDN to do it...

    As far as the company goes though, we will probably get the standard $22 gift certificate for a butterball turkey....

    I'm gonna buy a bottle instead....

  330. What did I get? by Quazi · · Score: 1

    I got told that I have to work over Christmas! YAY! ...
    well, it'd be different if I had something better to do.

    1. Re:What did I get? by krisguy · · Score: 1

      I get a half day on Xmas eve, Xmas off, and New Year's Eve AND Day off.

      But what does it matter, Nebraska football sucks this year.

      --
      I'm a hamker. Hams, hackers, same ethos, different medium. == 73 de KB0STG
  331. how does a company exec get a bobblehead? by beaverfever · · Score: 1
    this short yet rambling story gives some background to a case. They had money to burn!

    happy sales!

    1. Re:how does a company exec get a bobblehead? by KarMannJRO · · Score: 1

      Ugh. I actually read that story. I think I just might feel more ill than the first time I clicked on a goatse.cx link.:p And yet he seems to take such pride in his work....

  332. hookup by AnonymousCowheard · · Score: 1
    I'll bite.

    Last year I got laid

    Given the fact most trolls don't have the best grammar, I'll assume this troll implied his kitchen's tile was laid.

    --

    But I'm sure you already Gnu that.
  333. Quit whining and drop out. by barfomar · · Score: 1

    Either leave dronedom by becoming a suit or drop out.

  334. Nothing for Xmas, but for Halloween... by Erisian · · Score: 1

    I was given notice that my position "was being eliminated".

    It's the thought that counts...

    --
    What's the difference between an orange?
  335. At my company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Posting anonymously so no one plagues my company's inbox with requests to work there. My boss has always held an ideal that bonuses SHOULD be given regardless. Even if you quit or get let go before the end of the year, you get a bonus based on how much you worked that year. If you're still there, you get it based on how long you've been with the company and how much you've worked that year as well. And if the company's not making tons of money this year, or doesn't have the cash to pay bonuses, the boss takes a loan out to pay the bonuses.

    The owner of the company worked for many years in corporate-minded jobs, and decided to get out of the rut and form his own company. As an internet company, he's made it through the dot-bomb and today's bad marketplace. Amazing that thinking different and treating your workers like THEY are the important part of the company, not the shareholders or managers, makes a company still viable.

  336. Cry me a river! by Choco-man · · Score: 2

    Most of you reading this forum have jobs, eat 3 meals a day, have a fair amount of disposable cash with which you can purchase laptops, fancy GPS items, and 200 dollar sweaters.

    Most of the world doesn't get paid more than a few dollars a day, can't remember the last time they ate 3 meals - let alone balanced meals - in the same day, doesn't have a television or magazine subscriptions, nor the ability to read those magazines if they did have them.

    And here I'm seeing whining that you didn't get x% of your salary as a Christmas bonus for doing the work you were hired to do at a salary you agreed to prior to accepting the job.

    No wonder half the world hates Americans. I'm ashamed of you myself now.

    1. Re:Cry me a river! by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 2

      And here I'm seeing whining that you didn't get x% of your salary as a Christmas bonus for doing the work you were hired to do at a salary you agreed to prior to accepting the job.

      Many of us accepted a job based in part on bonuses as part of the compensation. When you go into a salary review and your boss includes a bonus as part of the compensation calculation, and then you don't get that bonus, that to me is a failure to honor an a verbal contract.

    2. Re:Cry me a river! by nege · · Score: 2

      I've always kind of wondered why the FUCK america has anything to do with whether another country creates an environment suitable for this sort of culture. Because some countries made lots o bad decisions aint my fucking problem. Until someone can post a solution, you arent any better than the people complaining about bobble dolls.

      Someone that comes to this country has a shot to make it - entrpenurial or otherwise. Get educated, get hired - work hard. That is what makes it great here, or at least better than a lot of other places (that you are whining on behalf of). If other countries created that sort of environement for their population rather than exploiting them, then maybe Id give more than 2 seconds thought about them. Feel free to try and prove me wrong.

    3. Re:Cry me a river! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Defective/backward/degenerate cultures/belief systems/behavior on their part is not cause for compassion on my part.

  337. YHBT. YHL. HAND. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And Merry Christmas, every one.

  338. Need to crunch something?? by doormat · · Score: 2

    I say pull a snickers crunch commercial and smash the bobblehead to get rid of your frustrations. In fact, have a party and invite other people from work to smash the bobblehead doll with you. Then drink til you pass out =^)

    --
    The Doormat

    If you're not outraged, then you're not paying attention.
  339. I got my button! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I'm a made guy now.

    ~~~

  340. For this Xmas I'll have... sex. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work in a porn biz (I'm Just Another Perl Hacker, who programs porn websites backends) and our team decided to make an orgy on Xmas. There'll be 19 female and 4 male models, 3 programmers (including me), 5 web/graphics designers, 2 photographers, company owner and a 2 managers. There'll be no cameras, otherwise half of the crew would not agree. I just can't wait, this is going to be best Xmas ever! I think I still can't believe it myself, those chicks are really hot (maybe except two "bbw"-type ones), I'll believe when it's done.
    (I post anonymously because I'm, of course, ashamed...)

    1. Re:For this Xmas I'll have... sex. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And for New Years you'll have the clap.

    2. Re:For this Xmas I'll have... sex. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes and the following Christmas bonuses are going to be herpes outbreaks.

  341. Three words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cheap pen set

  342. here it comes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love hearing people complain about their jobs.
    Wefre just starting to reach gcritical massh when consciousness
    begins to form. All you people with glivesh out there (i.e. making
    enough money to not truly suffer) get so pissed off when they step
    on your ego/pride and then turn right around and jump through their
    hoops. [You think itfs painful to not be able to get your kids that extra toy for
    Christmas? Try helping your mothger face dying without being able to
    afford the medicine that could save her]
    At your level of consciousness youfve got no idea whatfs going on
    or whatfs about to happen. When an earthquake in the middle of the
    ocean causes a tidal wave the ships donft even feel the tiny 4 inch
    wave that passes under them headed inland to destroy the costal towns.
    Similarly you people donft have any idea whatfs already happened
    thatfs about to cause catastrophic changes in the economy, but you
    will soon enough.

  343. A COW? by 0x0d0a · · Score: 3, Funny

    What on God's green earth do you donate a cow to? An African charity or something?

  344. A Bobblehead of a CEO.... by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 2

    Ever seen that crunchy snickers commercial....

    --
    I do security
  345. The Obligatory Slashdot poll reference by Crazy+Ukrainian · · Score: 1

    I don't celebrate christmas you insensitive clod!

  346. Bobble in Urinal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Share the christmas cheer and let every other male employee have the joy of pissing on said CEO's likeness all party-night long. It's what an arrogant ass like him deserves -- no wait, more than he deserves.

  347. Even better... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a bonus that's 0.04545454~% of the amount of money that your company makes thanks to your efforts. Yep. I had two weeks to figure out how to cram our data into a database format developed by the gubmint for the gubmint. 8 years ago. Some pencil pusher found the spec and said, "Hey. That'd be a good format to use for electronic reporting." Nevermind the fact that nobody had touched it in over 5 years.

    So after three weeks of work, I got it going. Spent months revising and refining as the gubmint agency realized that the spec was far too cumbersome for the project but couldn't do anything about it because they'd gone and got themselves a law requiring the use of this format. Nearly three months later, things finally started flowing. Thanks to my work, we were able to retain approximately $1,000,000 worth of work and bill an additional 10% on top of that for providing the data in the new format. That's $1,100,000 my company would have lost if not for my effort. And that amount is growing as consultants find it's difficult to find companies that can provide data in this format. If my projections are right, the income from this work could reach $1,500,000 next year.

    And all this has been done during one day a week. I've worked Sunday thru Thursday for the last year so I can have one day a week to work on this project uninterrupted. The rest of the week, I'm lucky to spend an hour (total) working on it. I rearranged my life so I could make this work. I've retained over a million dollars a year in income for my company. I've helped them create a market that will bring in hundreds of thousands of extra dollars a year.

    What did I get for a bonus? $500. Before taxes. Be still my heart. I can't afford to buy a decent house within 30 miles of the office if I have my entire salary wired directly to the bank. I haven't had a raise in over a year. I didn't get to take a vacation this summer because I had too much work to do.

    What thanks did I get? $500.

    Fuck 'em.

    1. Re:Even better... by dentar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Quit. Seriously. If they don't appreciate you, find someone who does. Life is way too bloody short to work for someone who does not appreciate you. Believe me, I've done it.

      My very first boss appreciated me, only paid me $6.00 per hour, but thanked me every day. I appreciated working for him. I think of him as my teacher. He passed away after about two years.

      My second boss and third boss did not appreciate me. My fourth "boss" (a medium-large corporation) appreciated me about as much as a corporation could, so they were ok, thinking back on it.

      My fifth boss(es) appreciated me, but the company was bought out by people who did not appreciate me. I left there too.

      Believe me, it's not worth working for those who don't appreciate you, period. So find someone who does and quit. People are a corporation's number one asset. A company that treats its people poorly is a company that is not making half the money it could. Happy workers attitudes flow through to the customer who are then happy to do business with the company.

      --
      -- I am. Therefore, I think!
  348. American Companies are Evil by m1a1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I really believe this is true. The focus is too much on management, and not on employees. I have friend whose father works in the oil business. One day I was eating with him and his father and the man was complaining about practices in a company he was doing some work for. Apparently the company was laying people off. However, they were only firing workers. The past year they had spent hiring managers. His point was that the company was becoming so top heavy it was hardly functional. They didn't have enough people to get the work done one time or correctly any more, just a whole lot of managers with nobody to manage.

    In contrast I look at Japanese companies and the way they operate. These companies will operate at a loss and refuse to fire workers simply to keep them happy! A professor once told me of a Japanese company that many extra workers and not enough projects to keep them busy. So, they just had the workers build an amusement park, for no other reason than to keep them employed! The company actually moved into a new market, and made a large, gambling investment, just to keep their workers happy! I would kill to work for someone who wanted me to work for them that much!

    1. Re:American Companies are Evil by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 2

      In contrast I look at Japanese companies and the way they operate.

      You are talking about an economic structure that has been in a recession for the past 10 years.

    2. Re:American Companies are Evil by m1a1 · · Score: 1

      You are talking about an economic structure that has been in a recession for the past 10 years.

      First off, ten years is an exaggeration. The Japanese economy has ups and downs just like any other. Also, just like any other modern economy, they are much better off now, than they were 50 years ago. Short ups and downs, but over a lengthened period of times, even the great depression looks harmless.

      Secondly, you are evaluating this based only on dollars, not on people. I think there is a lot to be said for loyalty, both to, and from, a company. Trading in high pay for job security can be a wise decision, and it is much better to work for someone that wants you, not just tolerates you because you are needed (temporarily, more than likely).

    3. Re:American Companies are Evil by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

      There is a Japanese word, I forget the exact pronounciation, but it translates as '(member of) the beside-the-window tribe.'

      This term is applied to a company employee that simply will not do anything else of note, will not advance, has reached his limits. However, they won't insult him by firing him. So they give him a nice office, with a nice window view (hence the term) and leave him to look out the window until he retires, quits, or jumps.

      It's not a matter of 'keeping the workers happy,' it's a matter of 'thanks for supporting us by working for us; let us return the favour by supporting you by not firing you as soon as it's no longer expediant to keep you around.' It's a mutual respect thing.

      --
      Vintage computer games and RPG books available. Email me if you're interested.
  349. Xmas "fruit" basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Last year, we got an Xmas "Fruit Basket" from one of the local grocery stores. Woo hoo.

    Sad part is that it wasn't the economy, it was malfeasance and poor management taking over that did it.

  350. typo by Exiler · · Score: 1

    I should be happy just to have a job.

    Should read,

    I should be happy just to have a CEO that doesn't read Slashdot

    --
    Banaaaana!
  351. Nawww, better yet... by Chuqmystr · · Score: 1

    Explosives and videotape! Perhaps some CA glue, some cardboard fins, add a few weights in the right place for balance and a guide tube, add a nice, big, fat Estes D sized model rocket engine and procede to the launchpad, camcorder in hand. Then, edit the video into a nice little email-able clip and send annonymously to a one Mr. Bobble Head, CEO of company X. Yessss, that should do quite nicely.

  352. I'm proud of Massachusetts! by xintegerx · · Score: 1

    We can spell!

  353. You're lucky by Darth_Burrito · · Score: 2

    The only thing I received from my employer for christmas were instructions to work harder to finish a project by the end of this year so various department heads would get a bonus.

    1. Re:You're lucky by /dev/trash · · Score: 2

      Heh. When I was laid off with about 20% of my fellow employees it was rumoured that our bosses all got bonuses because expenses were down.

    2. Re:You're lucky by EricWright · · Score: 2

      At my previous place of employ, half of R&D got laid off at the end of Q2-2001. By the end of Q3 (the one with WTC attacks...) the CEO and COO had nice, cushy $20k/yr raises. Oh, and they're a married couple, so $40k/yr family raise. At the same time, they instituted a salary freeze that, to my knowledge, still hasn't been lifted.

      At least at my new job, I knew ahead of time there would be no bonuses of any kind this year. That's why I held out for a better starting salary.

  354. "Holiday Bonuses" are deadly by misterplow · · Score: 5, Interesting
    A knowledgeable marketing teacher I had in college uttered what is, to me, the most sensible advice for companies giving out bonuses.

    In essense, he said, "The worst thing you could ever as a company is to start giving out a Christmas bonus. Once you start giving them out, you can't stop without coming off as a total schmuck."

    He added that if a yearly/periodical bonus *must* be given, it should be [phychologically] tied to some other, less-prominent holiday like Thanksgiving (in the US) or some summer holiday, etc.

    Once people get used to getting a "gift from Santa" it is very easy to miss it and get all pissed because they are somehow being robbed of something they deserve.

    1. Re:"Holiday Bonuses" are deadly by Bendebecker · · Score: 1

      Your assuming that your employees arent already pissed because your the only jerk in town who doesn't give out holiday bonuses.

      --
      There's a growing sense that even if The Future comes,
      most of us won't be able to afford it.
      -- Lemmy
  355. Two weeks paid vacation... by Un1v4c · · Score: 1


    I work for a collge.
    I get two weeks paid vacation in December, another week for spring break...
    No complaints here.

    --

    I gave myself to Jesus, but now he never calls
    1. Re:Two weeks paid vacation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here. I had been hoping for a bonus since we got shafted on our raise this year, budget crisis and all that. But, the simple fact that I have a job when so many people are out of work plus the paid time off a few times a year... I can't really complain, now can I?

  356. doll - was there a url on voodoo and pins included by zenst · · Score: 1

    Well Sending out a doll too; Well alot of staff is to say the least tempting fate in the voodoo magic department. Lets face it. If I was a tight assed boss who just sent all my faithful employee's a doll. I'd pay a very close eye on stationary requests for pins and staples for the next to weeks.

  357. I had to give mine back! by nolife · · Score: 2

    I was the new proud owner of an off-white LaserJet4 with a 475000 page count! I was really lucky because the toner had just been replaced and I think the paper tray was at least half full. Since I take mass transit, I did not want to kill myself and/or look like a complete idiot trying to lug that thing onto the subway so I left it in my cube and was waiting for a day I could drive to work and get it. Well I waited too long because last week they "borrowed" it back for a contractor's temp use in a conference room and although he's long gone, I havent seen the printer since, I think that fucker took it with him.

    --
    Bad boys rape our young girls but Violet gives willingly.
    1. Re:I had to give mine back! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      did you wish the asshole a merry christmas? Write a note and tie it to a rock.....

  358. You are a victim. by rnd() · · Score: 2

    You are certainly a victim!

    I don't think anyone feels sorry for you, considering how many tech jobs have been cut in the last 2 years. You are lucky to have a job. If you think you deserve a bonus, take your skills out onto the job market and negotiate yourself a signing bonus.

    Nobody owes you anything. If you don't have the skills to earn the kind of money you want, there's nobody to blame but yourself.

    --

    Amazing magic tricks

  359. What I want for Christmas... by Rand+Al'Thor · · Score: 1

    I'd like to receive a paycheck. Yes, I am employed, technically. I haven't been paid 2 out of the last 3 pay periods. So, a paycheck would be nice.

    I wouldn't mind having a job where I didn't have to say this.

    So, quitcherbitchin. 2-3 years ago maybe you had a valid point. Now you just sound like a whiny baby.

  360. conflating business and social relationships? by bfields · · Score: 2

    The company that employs you is not your friend or family; why do you want it to pretend it is? Wouldn't you rather have reasonable hours, a competetive wage, and a pleasant work environment, instead of silly parties and christmas presents?

    I'd prefer just an increase to my annual salary over some random bonus, and if they have to give me a bonus then I'd rather they just give me the money without pretending it's a christmas present.

    --Bruce F.

  361. Conference bike? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Our company has a policy were the managers are given money to pick christmas gifts for us. Well mine used everyone's aloted money to buy this

    For rides around the corporate campus: The Conference Bike.

  362. At my company... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...this year we all (<20-person IT consulting firm) got nice Columbia jackets with the company logo on them. Last year we got $100 Best Buy gift cards.

    I was looking forward to another gift card, but I like the jacket and I don't feel slighted in the least. The company also pays generous performance bonuses. In the past year, I've accumulated over $6000 and 10000 shares in the company. I'm a pretty freakin' happy camper.

  363. Jelly of the month club?!?!?!? by jhealy1024 · · Score: 1

    Why, if I had a rubber hose, I'd...

    Well, you get the idea. =)

    And I was *really* counting on that bonus to pay for my new in-ground pool!

  364. Maybe the CEO is a genius by RumGunner · · Score: 2

    And realizes that giving out bobble-head dolls of himself for employees to vent their frustrations on is a huge step for stress relief!

    Or maybe he's just another dumb MBA who lets all the important people beat him at golf.

    .

  365. Money. by supabeast! · · Score: 2

    I got a big fat check. And then I made a big donation to the EFF.

  366. prozac anyone? by Flamesplash · · Score: 2

    Yes you are correct. I made a grammatical mistake, I know it never happens, especially on /. ;)

    I hope more educated readers can see what I meant. It's not that hard.

    --
    "Not knowing when the dawn will come, I open every door." - Emily Dickinson
  367. My Christmas Bonus? by Junta · · Score: 2

    A small severance package. Yep, laid off yesterday, this close to Christmas. At the same time, invited to the company Christmas party. Yeah, I feel like going... I know, tough times and all, but seems like really crappy timing. Now if I get a better job before Christmas, well, I will consider this a good thing....

    --
    XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
  368. 65 million bananas? by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2

    ...damn doll of the guy who made 65 million...

    I assume we are are talking dollars and not dolls. Without the currency, we could even be talking RMB, which isn't that much. A currency symbol would have been nice.

    Until the original poster gives us a clue as to the company concerned, I will take the news with a pinch of salt.

    --
    Jumpstart the tartan drive.
  369. Re:A pen and a matchbox car! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you have to reboot a winxp machine several times a day, you have no business setting up *any* computer and should instead start by learning how to tie your shoes by yourself.

  370. Re:Need A New Trolling Motor? by norculf · · Score: 0

    I don't believe it.

  371. I gave THEM a gift: resignation! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And since I'm getting a substantial pay increase from my new employer, they can suck wind.

    I'm a soldier! Defend the objective!!

  372. Re:So what? Christmas has sweet FA to do with Chri by EverDense · · Score: 2

    Nicely made point.

    However, these days it has sweet FA to do any kind of religion, except the worship of money.
    For the last couple of decades its all been about consumer confidence, movie and music releases,
    over-priced pieces of cardboard and the airwaves bombarding us with advertising.

    Perhaps "birth of dead-guy on a stick" day should be moved to a different day, where it won't
    interfere with consumption.

    --
    http://jesus.everdense.com/
  373. They may be BSing you.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A buddy of mine is fairly senior in HR at a certain non-tech company.

    Times are *good*. Profits are *up*. But they are telling employees just the opposite (it is a large private company) and are putting the screws to them. He says it is really sick to watch.

    So don't believe everything you hear.

  374. Bonus?! What's that? by WCMI92 · · Score: 2

    I won't even be paid for being OFF on Christmas, so bad is my employer.

    I love the bobblehead idea... Yeah, spend $hundreds to have those things made instead of giving that money to the employees.

    Personally, I like ripping off sleeves of company logo golf balls from the sales slugs. My friend and I love to whack the things into the woods never to be seen again ;)

    --
    Corporatism != Free Market
  375. Bobbleheads aren't so bad... by Early90sRetroGuy · · Score: 1

    The company I worked for gave my entire department pink slips for Christmas... and we even got 'em a couple of months early.

    Chris

  376. Bonus by LtDave · · Score: 1

    My workgroup (4 people) generated about $2 million worth of business. We all got pocket planner calendars that cost $2.75. Last year we got Christmas ornaments that were dated 1998.

  377. Don't be dispise by jsse · · Score: 1

    Consider this real case:

    25 Years of pure programming experience
    An IT Master degree from Stanford University
    Married, but no kid

    He's still looking for jobs for the past 1/2 year.

    Be happy.

  378. Glue it to the bottom of a urinal by SEGV · · Score: 5, Funny

    Might as well make it useful.

    --

    --
    Marc A. Lepage
    Software Developer
  379. Bonuses are dangerous by Mr+Z · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While it's true you shouldn't plan on bonuses, more and more high-tech companies are giving bonuses in lieu of raises. It seems really nice, when times are good, because you get these huge bonuses--you think you're something really special. And after a few years, it takes quite a bit of fiscal discipline for those bonuses to not make their way into your usual budget. Then, the market goes in the tank, and you're suddenly making half of what you used to since the company can't afford the bonuses due to market conditions.

    And yes, I'm taking home half of what I did last year, even though my base salary didn't change. I'm not hurting, though -- most of my expenses are recreational and non-recurring. Both my cars are paid for too, which helps a lot.

    On the plus side, bonuses provide compensation flexibility for the company such that it's easier for the company to adjust its personnel expenses without actually letting as many people go. I've been through a few Reductions In Force, and it seems that the primary targets are the bottom 10% performance-wise, and top 10% salary-wise (at least among the non-upper-management staff). Thus, if your base wage stays lower, it's easier for the company to not lay you off -- just pay you less. Moral of the story: Sock those bonuses away for a rainy day.

    --Joe
  380. I must be lucky by ralphus · · Score: 1
    I Work in tech for a very large, very old (100 year) lawfirm who traditionally gives 5% bonuses to salaried staff along with a performance based bonus.

    The way I figure it, is that even in bad economic times, a well estabilished lawfirm still has a good amount of work to do. We can both launch the IPO and run the Chapter 11 proceedings...

    --
    Revolutions are never about freedom or justice. They're about who's going to be top dog. -- Kilgore Trout
  381. Now might be a good time.. by SideshowBob · · Score: 2

    ..to repost this link.

    Its the AFL-CIO's PayWatch resource. Find out the compensation disparity in your company.

  382. Uncle Sam wanted a bonus too... by Teufelskreis · · Score: 1

    I'm 19. I work in a Honda parts warehouse when I'm not in classes. For my high efficiency rating, I was awarded a $150 dollar bonus. Thanks to my good friend Uncle Sam, I got to see a whole $95. Yes... they taxed my bonus. I work in a warehouse that can hit up to 112 degrees... and they taxed my bonus. *sigh*

    --
    I'm magically delicious.
  383. Would you rather get the cash value? by erat · · Score: 2

    What, you think those bobble head things cost $500 a pop? If you were passed up on a $500 bonus in favor of a bobble head CEO I'd see your point. As it stands, I suspect you think you got shafted when in fact a $11 check would have been equally (if not more) insulting to you. Just a guess.

    Here's some advice: take the damn doll and shut up. There are talented people out there with children who can't see doctors anymore or even eat well because their talented parents were laid off and unemployment benefits are running out. Facing being homeless, I'd venture a guess that they'd spit in your friggin' eye if they heard you say in person what you're saying now.

    You people are jaw jackin' about how rotten your companies are based on things like bonuses. Bosses get more than you do. Deal with it. You don't like it, you think you can do better, start your own company. Now's actually an ideal time to do it.

    But quit being a spoiled brat. Look around you, read the news about the economy, and accept that you may not be given free $$ this year. I couldn't care less. I have a job, a roof over my head, and I have enough left over to sock some away for my retirement and still be able to pay for my new car and a few sushi runs a couple times a month. And I feel BLESSED to have this. I don't know what your problem is...

  384. Ehmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got a job offer -- and my current employer got a resignation letter.

    Works for me!

  385. Whiskey... by Mattsson · · Score: 1

    Well... I don't work there anymore. Am a student now.
    But we used to get a little money and maybe a shirt or something like that.
    As a goodbye gift when I quit I got a bottle of fine singlemalt whiskey and a sweater with a small company logo on it.
    Actually a really nice gift.

    --
    /.Mattsson - My native language is not English, so please don't whine over linguistic errors. (That's lame anyway...)
  386. Lessee... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I survived another layoff.
    I got another pay cut.
    I was told to take more vacation time -- no choice.

    Pretty much par for the course.
    Methinks I'll stay anonymous too.
    (I can't even _imagine_ a bobble head doll of my
    CEO.)

  387. What I got.. by wxfield · · Score: 1

    Nothing. In fact, I will have to forgo Xmas entirely and pound keys thru the holiday just to keep my client from giving me a happy new year 'pink-slip'.

  388. I duck as I type this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a pay raise 2 months ago (10%) and

    3 GRAND!!!!

  389. Absolutely Nothing! by Chicks_Hate_Me · · Score: 1

    Hell, we didn't even have (or going to have) a Christmas Party. How bout a bonus? Nope, I'm a temp worker so yay for me! Oh yea, I don't even get holiday pay. I just looove Christmas, more traffic, more annoying people, and more angry people on the phone.

    I hate Christmas, bah humbug!

  390. A pack of smokes by jpsst34 · · Score: 1

    Last year, the boss tosses me a pack of cigarettes and says, "Here, kid. Smoke up!"

    --
    How are you going to keep them down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus?
  391. Christmas Bonus? What's That? by OS24Ever · · Score: 2

    I've worked for multiple fortune 500 companies, for multiple years.

    I've never seen a bonus for a holiday.

    --

    As a rock-in-roll Physicist once said, No matter where you go, there you are.

  392. Drinks by keno1929 · · Score: 1

    Open bar at the holiday party :-)

    That is all I need this time of year.

    I'll look for my bonus check when taxes come around.

  393. Where I Work by rat7307 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...we get a ham.

    Its size is based on how well we are going.

    This year I think were getting a can of SPAM

    --
    Burma?
  394. unemployment by axehind · · Score: 1

    What did you get from your Company for Christmas?

    Does unemployment give out Christmas bonuses?
    ;-)

  395. Not a bad deal actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We don't get a bonus as far as I know, but we do get some extra vacation time. Basically they are shutting down the office for two weeks over the holidays. They give us the regular holidays plus 5 bonus days. Then we chip in 2 of our own vacation days. I'm happy getting 7 days for the price of two :)

  396. Well by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    The people who own the company (the stockholders) aperantly think that the salary of these people is a resonable price to pay given how much more money they are going to be making because they are there.

    If You own a billion dolar company, and you think a new CEO is smart enough to make you into a two billion dolar company, then it would be stupid of you not to pay him enough for him to want the job.

    It certanly makes more sense then paying sports people that kind of cash...

    --
    autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
  397. Dude! by Ender+Ryan · · Score: 2
    Dude, I don't think it's about the money, the guy got a friggin bobble-head of the CEO! If that's not evil, I don't know what is! ;-)

    All joking aside, I'm not getting a bonus this year, and that's fine, money is tight after all. But if I got a bobble-head of the CEO, I'm not sure if I'd think it was funny or if I'd be so offended I'd quit, especially if the CEO was paying himself 65M/year. If he was really doing his job correctly, he'd pay himself a more modest salary and keep the rest in the company. No one needs 65M a year, and taking that much for herself just shows he's not as loyal to the company as she should be to be the CEO.

    IMO, YMMV, YHBT, etc.

    --
    Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
  398. Heres a gift for you.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, you should be happy to have a job..

    Consider this - they could laid you off and spent your salary/wages on better gifts for all the remaining employees..

  399. My Company Christmas Party by The_Steel_General · · Score: 1
    I haven't received a bonus yet, and don't know that I will be. I think it's a possibility, perhaps, of getting 1-3% of my base pay. An extra week's paycheck, that is -- wouldn't complain if I got that, wouldn't hurt if I didn't.

    The office party was last Thursday, at a blues club big enough to hold everyone, a buffet dinner and open bar -- well, open enough to get beers and well drinks free. Two bands played: A blues band during dinner, a funk band for dancing later.

    It was a good time. But...

    Things have been so rough over the last couple of years that everyone seemed *too* thankful for what we had that night. It seemed downright solemn, as everyone concentrated on eating their ribs and not acting as if they "deserved" this bit of ostentation. Backlash, I suppose, from the New Economy years, when these sort of shindigs were expected. But then, that's when everyone was jumping ship for startups and we had to be bribed and cajoled into staying.

    A large proportion of people left soon afterwards, as well. It was impossible to find a seat when I arrived, but the place was halfway to empty when the dance band started. A bathroom attendent was heard commenting about how we sure weren't treating the night like a Christmas party.

    Then again, there were a lot of young single people working there back then. Now it's filled with older, married parents. Mostly the same folks.... I guess a lot changes over just a few years.

    TSG

  400. It's Christmas? by scphantm · · Score: 1

    Im sorry, I must not have gotten that memo.

    --
    *** I suffer from a colorful array of psychological problems
  401. Worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2 years ago, I was working in Big 5 consulting. They were forcing people to work extra hours over the holidays, so they gave us all a Christmas present that we could use - an air mattress and a clean shirt.

  402. UF4i1_i7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OMFG LOLOLOLOLOL U === teh VARY suckness
    Failure is written all over your dick-wanking hands.

  403. Cheap Christmas Party by Flack405 · · Score: 1
    My company is so broke we didn't even get free drink tickets this year for our company Christmas party. $5 bucks a head, and no drink tickets. That broke company? LOCKHEED MARTIN.

    Let's see, one Stealth Bomber = approximately 1.8 million company hams ...

    1. Re:Cheap Christmas Party by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 2

      Let's see, one Stealth Bomber = approximately 1.8 million company hams ...
      Damn, thats some expensive hams.

      1 B2 stealth => $1 Billion US.
      $1 Billion US / 1.8 million company hams =>
      $555 per ham. WOW

  404. Paying a Comediane $10000 and flying her 1st Class by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I once worked for a small company (10 employees) and we got paid dirt.

    The best financial year we had, we found out (small company) the pres flew in a semi-famous comediane 1st class from LA to the east coast and paid her 10 G's to ridicule us as she handed out gifts, like a sweater. Needless to say, none of us stayed on much longer.

    I always wondered if we would all still be there if she came out and handed us each 1 G in cash instead

  405. alas the dot-com days are gone by meatspray · · Score: 2

    *sniff

    then again the christmas bonuses and parties probably had a lot to do with it :)

    (*enter wavy dream sequence back to 1998*)

    my first year there, they gave us each around $1000 (more for higher ups) we were exstatic to say the least. They threw this big catered affair at a posh place downtown for the 50 employees on hand at the time.

    The second year, they gave us a bonus that rivaled out bi-weekly paychecks. (much more than the previous year, one guy was only there 2 weeks and he got something like $500.) They had us take everything in the office (er studio), move it to another floor, layed down a dance floor, hired professional swing dancers, a band, had free food (sushi, calamari and all things yummy) and put up three seperate fully stocked bars.

    then the third year, big bada boom - the .crash, we recieved a $25 gift cert to the local steakhouse and a small party at a decent place for the remaining employees catered with apetizers and 1 hour of open bar.

    at the time we were all pretty pissed/depressed, it's funny to look back at it all now. at least I still have my memories.

    If anything, my current job will probably toss us a $15 Giant gift cert but I'm definately not counting on that.

  406. Ebay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You could probbably get $20 for that bobble head on Ebay...

    1. Re:eBay by ncc74656 · · Score: 2
      I'd sell it on eBay.

      No CEO bobble heads on eBay. Does that mean they're rare?

      If you didn't see CEO bobble heads on the shelf at Wal-Mart the last time you were there, it qualifies as "rare."

      --
      20 January 2017: the End of an Error.
  407. what did I get for christmas? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    laid off from a certain telecommunications ccompany that shall remain nameless (i need the severance)

    1. Re:what did I get for christmas? by featheredfrog · · Score: 1

      OOOH OOOOH I know! I know. Me too.

  408. exactly, that's honest business practice by Ender+Ryan · · Score: 2
    You are exactly correct. If the top guys at the company were doing their jobs correctly, they'd cut their enormous salaries first. No one needs 65 million a year. A CEO paying himself that much is just tacky and shows very poor judgement and dedication to the company.

    If it was my company and I gave the position of CEO to someone else and he did as such, I would fire his/her ass immediately, whether or not he was a close friend or whatnot.

    Afterall, employees are usually asked to show a certain amount of dedication to the company, the executives should do the same, otherwise they are poor executives and should be releived.

    --
    Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
  409. As a childless, single person.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I agree with you. It's happening in my own company. The raises have been on hold for 2 years now (this after I was already screwed over the previous two raises.) and bonuses never existe for us peons other than the box of cookies they would toss us in December. (they even cancelled those this year.)

    The xmas party was today, but the office is getting reamed over it because corporate is pissed that they spent a couple of hundred bucks on fried chicken from brown's, in our own office.

    Yet, the ceo got another huge bonus.

    Oh, and btw, I don't drink latte's. I don't buy crap. I spend $2.00 a day eating at Smackdonald's and getting the dollar menu items. Bringing my own soda to work helps a lot.

  410. Nice try, troll! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody's going to believe a story like that.

  411. Wow... I win! by IBitOBear · · Score: 2

    Well, I may be off topic because this isn't a complaint...

    We got nice Eddie Bauer company-logo jackets (fleece lined weather proof kind-of cloth thing). Bonuses happen along about new years, but last year they were in the thousands of dollars range.

    Of course this is because my company (shameless plug pointing at a enemic server that wont take the load 8-) doesn't suck, didn't dot-bomb itself, and is still quite profitable.

    Then again, we did do fund-rasing this year, which involved going from a limited partnership to a board-of-directors thing, so there is no telling. Perhaps we will get slammed later in a classic "syphon off the value, sell the shell, admire our management technique, and call it a win." spoken of elsewhere on this forum.

    Meanwhile things are quite nice.

    --
    Innocent people shouldn't be forced to pay for inferior software development.
    --"Code Complete" Microsoft Press
  412. Heh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd advocate buying Sun equipment over smaller shops selling rackmount servers if they took me out on Cruises and got me drunk.

    Maybe you just buy "enough" so they keep wasting their money on you. Meanwhile, you can show even better numbers then having gone totally with one vendor. Make them fight each other by dropping hints about the "other departments" and what deals they have going.

    Ahhh yes. Good stuff.

  413. I don't think I'll be getting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anything worth while from the company I work for if I get anything.. I know that the company I work for when they hit their first $1,000,000,000.00 in profits they gave out to all the employees a squeeze ball with the company name on one side and the saying "Thanks a Billion!" on the other... So needless to say.. I don't think I will be getting a damn thing.

    Oh well.. There goes the hopes of being able to afford presents for the family and fiancee...

    Hope everyone has a Merry Christmas though!

  414. Qualification to be CEO: BULLSHIT ARTIST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've worked for three companies during my career, and they were all small companies, so I grant that may taint my perspective. But I've come to believe that the one qualification to be a CEO is that you:

    1) Convince yourself that you should be a CEO
    2) You convince other people of the same

    That's it. I've found no other inate qualification in any of the CEO's I've worked with. They usually have tremendous egos (a necessity given requirement #1 above), and this leads to all sorts of problems. They are unwilling to accept their own ignorance, and react poorly to constructive criticism.

  415. For reference... by Doc+Hopper · · Score: 2

    $2,100 bonus. Full-time UNIX admin, with a liberal sprinkling of integration work on MacOS X.x, Win32, and various bizarre platforms.

    After federal, state, and local taxes (which are quite extreme on any income that is not your standard "wage"), $1,263 net take-home. Gave my wife $350, myself $350, and saved the rest for family expenses.

    Plus around Thanksgiving, they gave us a gift certficate for a ham that normally costs around $45. It's a nice place to work, lots of fun and challenging projects. Believe it or not, I work for a bank. Times are tough all around, particularly on banks (which really get stiffed with the bills during tough economies), but those who value their employees still try to make sure employees stay satisfied with their employment. To paraphrase P.T. Barnum, the knowledge inside the heads of your employees is your greatest asset, and should be rewarded with reasonable annual increases. Should the employee begin to believe s/he is invaluable, and demand extortionary rates for their continued employ, you should show them the door.

    The dance comes when trying to figure out the fine line between "reasonable" and "extortionary" :)

  416. Youth wasted on the young, management on managers by SecurityGuy · · Score: 2
    They say that youth is wasted on the young. I'm growing to believe that management authority is, by and large, wasted on people who do stupid things with it.


    This is a good example of the principle that you really can do worse things than nothing at all in terms of employee morale. What sort of arrogant oaf would actually believe their employees want his (her?) image as a GIFT?!? It might make a nice gag gift after a bad year if printed on the business side of a dartboard, but otherwise it's just tacky beyond reason.


    Personally, I think a modern art treatment would be appropriate. Submerge it in a jar of urine and call it "Piss(ed) CEO".

  417. Firing! by Anonymous+Freak · · Score: 1

    Well, the employees of a company I used to work for, DirecTV Broadband, got fired for the holidays...

    --
    Another non-functioning site was "uncertainty.microsoft.com."
    The purpose of that site was not known.
  418. Popcorn... by domenic+v1.0 · · Score: 0

    I got a tub of popcorn this year with a design on the outside that makes it look like a drum. This year we got 3 flavors instead of 1 like last year! Shows we are 3 times as successful as we were last year, huh!

  419. Nothing is really better if it's honest... by mabhatter654 · · Score: 1

    White elephant gifts are the biggest insult. In every company I have worked at has had year-end bonuses or incentives. Every company has made that a big part of why I should work for them. Evrey company had reduced/eliminated said things while I worked there. It looks like this one is no different. In a lot of cases bonuses are what they tell you makes up for the long hours or you won't get thim if this project dosen't work out. Yet, at the end of the year they can't just objectively tell you the truth about where bonuses stand--that's the rub. Holding it over you head all year then essentially cheating you out of it. Many companies promise it--willingly when they want extra out of the employees. If they don't plan to do it, don't promise it! If they have to do less, honestly explain it and have upper management be consistant!

  420. My small bonus by bofkentucky · · Score: 1

    A company T-Shirt, that has to be ordered (Sorry, we didn't order enough 2XL's was the HR persons repsonse, I personally think it costs more for 2X so they're going to order them when the get hard numbers, cheap bastards) and a $20 gift card to a local supermarket.

    I'll gamble that the VP's, got a sizeable ($1000+) bonus like they did last year. We're a small business so it goes Pres -> VP IT/Telecom -> Manager IT -> Sysadmin (Me). I asked my boss if he got a cut of this silly bonus policy to which he replied I wish. I did some envelope calculations based on our price - (bandwidth costs + staff + Equipment) and there was nearly 1 million in profit last year, for our pissant ISP business (< 50000 customers), I wonder what the Cellular side looks like, probably much better though.

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    09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
  421. don't be a dick by Ender+Ryan · · Score: 2
    I think you miss the point entirely. I don't think he's so pissed that he got no bonus, but the fact that he got a friggin bobble-head of the CEO is probably kind of a slap in the face.

    I agree with you about employment, you should think of yourself as an equal simply bartering your labor for cash. On the other hand, giving your employees a bobble-head of yourself is really not treating them as equals in return...

    --
    Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
    1. Re:don't be a dick by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2

      but the fact that he got a friggin bobble-head of the CEO is probably kind of a slap in the face.

      I won't argue with that. The CEO giving a bobble-head of himself is just unbelievably stupid.

      --
      Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
  422. Crappy Xmas Bonuses by jeling · · Score: 1

    It must be a management skill. One place I worked for had a Xmas Party. The MC was dressed as an astronaut?! (It was for a hospital). They handed out Xmas awards to about ten people, the best in the company, who had worked on big projects. The awards were cardboard pyramids with the words 'UFO' on them.

    It told us that they thought everyones contribution was a joke. Only not many people laughed!

  423. Laid Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I (used to) work for the world's largest manufacturer of optical fiber. This Christmas I got laid off. Merry Christmas!

  424. Something hot and steamy! by daveoj · · Score: 1

    Not so much a company present, but my manager recently gave me a.... Kettle.... for Christmas. Not even an electric kettle - but the kind you put on your stove-top!

    Never let it be said that I don't feel valued.

  425. Rather have nothing by whereiswaldo · · Score: 2

    I would rather get nothing than a cheap little gift. Recognition amongst my peers is more valuable to me than some stupid bottle of wine, doll, or what have you. Give me some certificate of accomplishment at least that I can use at my next job. ;)

    I've seen people who rake in millions get stupid little gifts and I just think... God, I'm glad that's not me because I'd f-ckin' blow a gasket.

  426. Sick Bastard With Mod Points by ONOIML8 · · Score: 2

    I'm getting pretty f'in tired of the sick bastard with the mod points.

    I hope someday you'll be worrying about a layoff and how you're going to feed your family. We'll all get a good chuckle then won't we.

    --
    . Quit playing Monopoly with Bill. Switch to one of many non-Microsoft products today.
    1. Re:Sick Bastard With Mod Points by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh come the fuck on. Metamod it "Unfunny" if the stick is still up your ass when M2 comes around.

  427. Better to work where bonus is a noun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    And not a verb and an object.

    Me? We had a real nice Christmas party. And since the President is a rather devout Catholic, it was called a Christmas party. And if you found that offensive he'd tell you to go fsck yourself. I guess there's no commandment against swearing (Thou shalt not cuss?!?!)

  428. Company Christmas gift by Discopete · · Score: 1

    Laid-off......

  429. I got a no-expense paid job interview by mbstone · · Score: 1

    I was interviewed the day after Thanksgiving and told to fly to Miami the following Monday (change in Atlanta) for a working audition. Didn't get any per diem advance, which sucked because I have been out of work long enough not to have any money. The first night, there was a mandatory dinner at a restaurant that cost $80 APIECE. After two days on the road, I was told "Welcome aboard, you did a great job" and stuck with my own hotel bill (as well as the $80 restaurant tab). And by the way, the company Christmas party is this Sunday. Flew back (thank God they fronted the airline ticket) and celebrated with my family only to be told 2 hours before the Christmas party, hey sorry dude. Still waiting for my one and only paycheck as well as reimbursement of the &^%$# hotel bill.

    1. Re:I got a no-expense paid job interview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, at least post the name of company. It's not like they are going to be giving you a bad reference or something.

    2. Re:I got a no-expense paid job interview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tough noogies. If someone wants you to fly or take a trip for an interview, make sure they'll pay before you accept the interview!!! Spending your own money on an interview and TRUSTING the other company to pay up is stupid. DUH!

    3. Re:I got a no-expense paid job interview by mbstone · · Score: 1

      Hey, at least post the name of company. It's not like they are going to be giving you a bad reference or something.

      I like to think I've got more class than that. Also, they are sufficiently small that other readers probably won't encounter them. But I hope they read this.

  430. Well, actually, I got a 12% raise. by LazloToth · · Score: 1

    Forgive me - - every dog has his day. But I work in the banking industry, and these have been very good times for banks. You know the drill: people get scared of the markets and other risky investments, so they put their savings into cash accounts.

    As for me, I was part of a team of four people who saved the company a recurring $350,000/yr. expense by bringing our home banking services in-house (it previously had been with an ASP). We did it for under 50 grand. My part, as the engineer, was setting up firewall and Internet service failover (thanks,RadWare) and putting a couple of relatively secure servers on a DMZ. I had the easy part. Sadly, the platform was Windows/IIS. A shame, yes, but I'm the only guy with interest in Unix in our shop. Oh well. As for the execs, I guess they felt pretty grateful. No complaints from me - - I went out and traded my car for a 2003 model.

    Merry Christmas to all,
    Laz.

    --


    It's only funny until someone gets hurt. Then, it's hilarious.
    1. Re:Well, actually, I got a 12% raise. by /dev/trash · · Score: 2

      This is whatI like to see. What the submitter told us was "I didn't get a toy, I'm pitchin a fit!!!"

      What you told us: I worked my ass off and saved some money, I was compensated justly for it.

      Bravo.

  431. Loyalty to a company by 0x0d0a · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No one needs 65M a year, and taking that much for herself just shows he's not as loyal to the company as she should be to be the CEO.

    "Loyalty to a company" in just about any company over fifty people or so is a sweet-sounding nonexistant Grail. It's lovely material to feed a worker to make him more productive, but it's silly. The company has no particular loyalty to you -- to HR, you're just another statistic that might potentially be sucking down money, and if you ever become a liability instead of an asset (after, of course, factoring in the cost of firing you and the effects on your coworkers of doing so, and considering your future potential value), the company will drop you like a hot potato. The company has no loyalty to you -- why should you to it?

    Now, that doesn't mean that justifies things like stealing from the company or trying to shaft it (as some people seem to feel) -- things like this frequently come back and hurt you far worse than any possible benefit. However, whenever you get stuck in your head that the company you work at is a kind, loving father or something, instead of a cold, profit-seeking institution, you're running the risk of painful dillusionment.

    I see people post here ever so frequently that "I gave 80 hours a week of work to my company and they didn't give me anything back" or "Times are tight, so my company is firing because it's best for all of us, but they really don't want to fire me". Bad mental state to be in. Don't come to rely on your company for more than they signed on for in your contract, and you won't have any nasty surprises.

    This wasn't all aimed at you, more of a general feeling towards Slashdotters complaining that they didn't get what they expected...

    1. Re:Loyalty to a company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The company has no particular loyalty to you -- to HR, you're just another statistic that might potentially be sucking down money"

      Then that HR department has a terminal case of stupidity. This attitude will not keep good employees working for a company. Good employees are a company's MOST IMPORTANT resource, bar none. Without good people the best resources in the world are worth nothing. Smart companies get and pay the best people they can find, and offer the best conditions they can. Treat them with the respect they deserve as the backbone of the company, and they will respond.

      The idea of a CEO is to move the company forward, and they should be willing to put their huge paychecks on the line. I have the same feeling about sports - either perform or take the "low" $50000-$100000 base salary. Performance counts for real world jobs, and I see no reason why anyone's pay should not be contingent on performance.

      I don't care one bit if huge CEO salaries not dependant on performance is "how it's done." It's not how it should be done, and nothing changes if we shrug and say "oh well. that's life." It doesn't have to be, and if society started demanding reasonable conduct from these people with enough force I think it would happen. Right and wrong are not decided by what everyone does. If every company in America started to behave like Enron, it would still be wrong. Common sense needs to take a bigger part in this, and companies need more respect for the folks who get it done.

    2. Re:Loyalty to a company by Teancom · · Score: 2

      Or, you can work for a somewhat more enlightened company like I do (hint: we are the only memory maker that speaks English natively). Our CEO doesn't take his salary when the company isn't making money. The first people to feel the pinch of several bad quarters are those making more than 70K a year, through 10% pay cuts, which *are* restored after a year or so. Even though we've only had one profitable quarter in the last two years, we haven't had a single layoff, which is always couched in terms of "the last resort", and actually seems to be so. But when we're doing good (and we've had some great years), the stock options, bonuses, PFP's, and raises flow, from the top execs down to the floor sweepers. Do we think that the company "cares" for us? Hell, no. The management is just smart enough to figure out that if you treat your people good, they'll treat you good. It makes good business sense. If your PHB's can't figure that out, well, I'm sorry. But that doesn't mean that's the way it is all over...

      After writing all that, I'm not sure this is the right post to append this to, so I'll simply repeat your disclaimer: "This wasn't all aimed at you, but at a general feeling towards Slashdotters complaining about stupid bosses and how all companies suck". :-)

  432. If we're lucky... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We'll get laid!

  433. Re: Company Christmas Gifts / Bonuses? by lethargic · · Score: 1

    I got $50CAD ..

  434. I got what everyone where I work got by jcoy42 · · Score: 2

    5 days maditory vacation, and both Christmas and New Years Day as a holiday. I'm fortunate in that all the overtime I've put in can be converted to comp time, and I can use that instead. Not everyone is as lucky (to be allowed to get/use comp time).

    So, I get some time to get things done around the house, go see LotR II, and generally relax and de-stress.

    That is as long as nothing at work breaks (because then I'd have to go into work).

    And no, I'm not complaining, I'm looking forward to it- I can use the break. But I sure hope nothing breaks.

    Who knows, maybe I'll get a bobble head doll too.

    --
    Never trust an atom. They make up everything.
  435. quit then by thayner · · Score: 1

    You need to get a better perspective on things. First off, it's an irrelevancy how well the company CEO is being treated other than how it affects the macroeconomics of the company (very likely it is only a minor factor). Decide how well you need to be treated and make it happen. Getting angry over getting a bobble doll is the equivalent to a little kid throwing a tantrum.
    Working diligently to find a place that properly values your skills is a better idea, or improving your skillset if your current skills are valued appropriately or overvalued.

  436. MOD THIS UP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "retarded dictionary shit on your keyboard..."
    HAHAHAHAHA! That's some funny fuckin' shit mother fucker!

  437. All I'm getting for Christmas is... by facundo · · Score: 1

    All I'm getting for Christmas is a 150% increase in my contribution to the heath insurance plan (for next year).
    Now that's a nice bonus!

  438. Bonus? by dacarr · · Score: 2
    Last year, I took the fall for my boss (nay, I was shot down in lieu of my boss) for her antics as a late christmas present. They never did anything for us anyway, but I miss the benefits.

    This year, the president of the company is taking us to Bobby McGee's in Brea, CA for a party. Any bonuses are left to be seen, but maybe we'll get insurance this year.

    --
    This sig no verb.
  439. At divine.com last year... by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...the day after the Christmas party, half the office was laid off.

    So, mister whining bobblehead-doll recipient, kindly "eat a bag of dicks".

    I know plenty of people who'd have accepted a bobblehead doll and a job instead of what they got last year.

    --
    "Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
    1. Re:At divine.com last year... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      So, mister whining bobblehead-doll recipient, kindly "eat a bag of dicks"

      Hell, let's extrapolate that out: There are starving people in Africa who would take a cock up the ass while inhaling airborne TB mixed with a clusterfuck of anthrax and asbestoes. THEY would be super happy with a bobblehead, so fucking grin and start sucking your immediate bosses cock now, right?

      That sort of pathetic subservient talk is pathetic. YOU are pathetic.

  440. What did I get? by Phil+the+Canuck · · Score: 1
    A turkey and a request for a donation (I work for a non-profit). Last year I told them to donate the turkey to a needy family, since I was going for a vacation for two weeks over xmas. Instead, they left it in my office. Luckily my underling had to get something from my desk and had the presence of mind to remove the bird.

    I'd prefer it if they'd keep the turkey and stuff it with the donation request.

  441. I get a Christmas bonus... by Mirkon · · Score: 1
    ...of work.

    What really sucks is that I go to my job 35 hours a week, and get jack squat for it - no salary even - except the promise of a "diploma" and some BS about "training" and "education." And if I quit, my next of kin get jailtime.

    Talk about bad jobs.

    --
    Glog!
  442. An Iron Buffalo Statue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They said something about work ethic and reliability, I still think it was something to do with my girth, hairyness, and general odor ;)

  443. still have a job by foo(foo(foo(bar))) · · Score: 1

    Actually, last week they elminated pay incrases and bonuses .... but I didn't get a pink slip like 1000 others :)

  444. 100$ and a picture of the managers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's one of the many reasons I don't want to be a manager. they gotta get on costumes and dance at meetings and stuff. The bad part is that they have to act like they enjoy doing it. (perhaps they do, but I'm not dumb enough to ask a question like that)

  445. What we got... by fudgefactor7 · · Score: 2

    Same as every year... $300 cash bonus.

  446. That's a ton of replies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry, a little off topic here, but does anybody notice the high number of replies to this article? I think this might be some kind of record. Does slashdot keep any statistics on this kind of stuff?

    maybe we're all just a little angry that our companies didn't give us anything for Christmas. Personally, our office christmas party consisted of going to a restaurant, we covered our own expenses, company put in nothing.... And as for me, I worked all weekend, so I could take a couple days off around Christmas.... Damn coop employers who don't consult you on when you want your contract to end.... Even though it should be obvious that you might want to be off before christmas, especially when you start early missing out on your summer, on short notice, because they are in a rush and need stuff done </rant>

    1. Re:That's a ton of replies by eclectro · · Score: 1

      click on the "hof" link right under the "jobs" link on the left hand of the page.

      <==========

      hof is "hall of fame"

      --
      Take the cheese to sickbay, the doctor should see it as soon as possible - B'Elanna Torres, "Learning Curve"
  447. ...less. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I lost my job. Doh.

  448. My present is better by DeVilla · · Score: 1

    You know what I get for Christmas? The pager. I have to give it back on January 1st. Merry Christmas

  449. I got by ANY5546 · · Score: 0

    a $25 Wal-mart gift certificate from the company and a little leather note book thing from my department. I am not complaining since I am just a co-op student who work 6 months out of the year!

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    http://www.freepokerchipset.info
  450. That wasn't a bonus. by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe not every company can afford, and not every employee would deserve, extra on their paycheck every holiday season. But that doll was pretty stupid.

    I suspect most of that company's employees would've been happier skipping the doll and not having had to pay for parking for the party.

    1. Re:That wasn't a bonus. by rnd() · · Score: 2

      That may be true, but nobody is forcing any of the employees to work there. If they don't like it, they should leave. They're entitled to disagree with the decision to have the doll made, the decision about parking, and about a host of other much more important things. But having a bad attitude and feeling like a victim is only going to limit them.

      If you deserve more, congratulations for recognizing it. Now go out and find it. Sitting around whining may feel good, but it certainly won't get you a bonus.

      --

      Amazing magic tricks

  451. I ain't a Marxist but... by cyranoVR · · Score: 1

    This article reminds me of memorable passage this passage from Das Capital :

    From Vol 1, Part III, Ch 7, Section 2 - "The Production of Surplus-Value"

    [The "speaker" here is yer own "Bobble Head" boss]
    "Can the labourer," he asks, "merely with his arms and legs, produce commodities out of nothing? Did I not supply him with the materials, by means of which, and in which alone, his labour could be embodied? And as the greater part of society consists of such ne'er-do-wells, have I not rendered society incalculable service by my instruments of production, my [workstation] and my [JBuilder license], and not only society, but the labourer also, whom in addition I have provided with the necessaries of life? And am I to be allowed nothing in return for all this service?"...Our friend, up to this time so purse-proud, suddenly assumes the modest demeanour of his own workman, and exclaims: "Have I myself not worked? Have I not performed the labour of superintendence and of overlooking the [programmer]? And does not this labour, too, create value?" His overlooker and his manager try to hide their smiles. Meanwhile, after a hearty laugh, he re-assumes his usual mien. Though he chanted to us the whole creed of the economists, in reality, he says, he would not give a brass farthing for it.
    [end quote]

    Most people in this country are sheep.Unfortunately we are all too brainwashed by pop-culture and consumerism to realize it. So we will continue to get fucked over each xmas. I don't know about the rest of you, but I was getting screwed back when the times were GOOD. My boss was paying himself 6-figures where I was barely above minimum wage when you factored in the total hours (he "couldn't be bothered" with over time).

    Who cares if you aren't getting a raise. Hey, at least you've got the latest Spider Man DVD, drive an Explorer and have got a new pair of Nikes. Retirement plan? Humbug! Bobble Head and his Board have that well invested in *heh* COMPANY STOCK.

    People in NYC are pissed at the Transit Workers Union right now for threatening to strike. Well, I think we could all learn something from them. We should look to them as role models. Maybe if we all grew some balls like they have and had a National Strike demanding CEO compensation reform (like they HAVE in Germany and other EU states) we would not be getting a lump of coal every XMas.

    We are bringing it on ourselves by being a bunch of spineless, whining wimps.

  452. Im actually quite lucky... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Our company had a huge year (insurance company specializing in annuities). The company is handing out money from a bonus pool of $33 million to ~ 2500 employees. The money is not evenly divided but I (a 2 year employee, and helpdesk analyst) expect to get several thousand dollars ($4000 - $7000). I will get the check this Friday...

  453. Well.... by mao+che+minh · · Score: 2

    My company is still very profitable, so my Christmas bonus remains the same: profit sharing into the 401k of about 5% your yearly salary, as well as a bonus check that equals your usual 2-week pay. I love my CEO - just not in that way.

  454. Bobbling Head by nzyank · · Score: 1

    Your CEO must give damn good bobbling head to make $64M. We're not talking about Carly, are we?

  455. I get to keep gettting a paycheck.... by Lioner · · Score: 1

    You *really* should be grateful...almost lost my house this year because of an untimely business failure. I'm just grateful I am working and providing for my family. :-)

    P.S. Did get some cool $100 Home Depot gift certs one year though!

  456. Company Christmas Gifts by Mandy74 · · Score: 1

    I'm sub-contracted by the government, funded by the government, but WITHOUT government benefits or government pay. The departament I work in was implemented after the 9/11 events - to protect our country against possible terrorism transiting U.S. waters. We are a 24-7 operation and are referred to as "essential personnel" who aren't entitled to SHIT! Makes one feel like a true shining hero - toiling away for this country for what? Being fucked without so much as a kiss.

    For our efforts, our *Seagull Manager went out of her way to give a generic card with a robot-style greeting - enclosed was a blue lanyard keychain with the words "HOMELAND SECURITY" embroidered on it. We've been corn-holed YET AGAIN.

    I've since shredded the card and "lost" the keychain. I'd rather have had the bobblehead - at least I'd have had something to perform sadistic rituals on.

    *Seagull Manager: one who flies in, makes alot of noise, shits all over everything, and then leaves.

    1. Re:Company Christmas Gifts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't feel bad I received a Coffee mug from the same company "FSC" what a joke.

  457. Re: You are just wrong. by benzapp · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately, I work for a company that makes stock option plan management software. This company will of course, remain unnamed. However, I deal with this shit, each and every day of my life. I thus can't resist but point out how rediculous your post is.

    Cashing in options on insider info is totally illegal. That's insider trading, bud.

    Insider trading does not APPLY to stock options. Stock options are NOT stocks. They are options! (duhhh!) AKA derivative securities. They derive their value from future ownership. You can exercise stock options whenever they vest. It is theoretically possible someone could then sell those stocks at some future pivotal state, but I can tell you that 95%+ of optionees do same day sales, as soon as the stock in the money. That being the case, insider trading is pretty much impossible since they are waiting a long time for those options to vest. Note, that is a figure I observe after having see hundreds of databases in my days.

    If your broker has proof you have the options, he should have NO PROBLEM shorteslling the stock the second you call him to do it, and then you replace the short with your options. THAT is how you get current market price on options, without risk.

    I don't play the market in that fashion myself. But most stocks that are underwater are flat... You aren't going to make any money shorting the stock because the value isn't going to be changing. Its already worthless, especially today.

    What does short selling have to do with stock options? Absolutely nothing Short selling, by the very definition is selling of stock you do not own. Usually, it is stock owned by the broker or from another client. This stock is lended to you, and you promise to buy it in the future. It is a loan, and a gamble. As any true loan, it can be called by the owner. So you can't keep it forever. But to make a long story short, when you buy back the stock if the price is lower than the day you borrowed it, the difference is credited to your account. If the price is higher than the day you borrowed it, you owe the difference. Read more here.

    Exercising options on the open market and then holding the stock is a BAD idea.... there is a taxable benefit on the difference between what you paid and fair market value of the stock. It's not considered capital gains.. which means if the stock goes down, you get a capital loss, but you can't offset your tax obligation.

    This is what really proves you don't know anything about stock options. Congress has allowed for the first $100,000 of stock acquired in a calender year to be sold tax free if they are held for the minimum required time of one year after date of vesting. These are called Incentive Stock Options, or ISO's. Options in excess of $100,000 a year are called NQ's, or non-qualified, because they don't qualify for the tax benefit. Read more about the IRS code at Findlaw.

    Go with the short.

    I hope you read up a little more on short selling. You my actually make some money some day, if you ever have the credit or collateral to do so.

    --
    I don't read or respond to AC posts
  458. Weekend in Vegas by engine+matrix · · Score: 1

    Well, I haven't gotten a bonus from my company yet. The only thing I can look forward to is a lame party at one of the manager's houses. No alcohol allowed. However, I just got back from a two-day expenses paid trip to Vegas that my girlfriends company gave to all employees. She works for a small staffing company. Now, that is a great way to say thanks to your people. They have the x-mas party in Vegas EVERY YEAR.

  459. My Christmas bonus by gorbachev · · Score: 1

    ...was getting laid off.

    That was way cool.

    Proletariat of the world, unite to kill CEOs

    --
    In Soviet Russia, I ruled you
  460. IN SOVIET RUSSIA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    gift gives YOU!

  461. Re:So what? Christmas has sweet FA to do with Chri by kavau · · Score: 1

    hmm... I wonder why it's called Christmas then?

  462. I've got it good... by bobv-pillars-net · · Score: 2
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    The Web is like Usenet, but
    the elephants are untrained.
  463. My Job... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work for a local diecast firm, and it seems I may be the start of their eventual IT dept. So it's got a chance for growth. It's family run, and has been around for 50 yrs.

    I've been given the duty of starting to automate their production data gathering and reporting, and machine diagnostic stuff. It's all rather cool, and intresting. I've essentially been paid to learn and get this going.

    I'm not officially an employee, currently I am working as a contractor, but I do have some say as to what I need to get the job done. A few more months, I may get hired on permanently...
    This was a nice break after being out of work for the last YEAR.

    Christmas wise, they offer a christmas party for everyone! Including the hourly and contract labor at a local restaurant (prior engagements prevented my attendance ). And they give out Christmas hams and Thanksgiving turkeys out to all the employees.

    It's a really nice place, and I sometimes feel guilty that most of the week I am learning some new skill. But they get me at a cheaper price than a dedicated Rockwell Software consultant, and I'll have the first core chunk of the work done by march...

    That reminds me, I better give them christmas cards this year...

    -Daniel

  464. How about Two Towers by lexbaby · · Score: 1

    In a unique idea from my employer, they're renting out a local movie theatre at 12:01am on Dec. 18th. That's right! They're paying for all of us to see LOTR: The Two Towers before anyone else. I'd prefer a bonus, but this is going to be pretty cool.

    It'll be interesting to see who shows up for work after the movie ends at 3am. :-P

    --
    lexbaby
    "Be Brave, Be Loyal, Be True." -- Hawkeye Pierce
  465. nuttin by Rashan · · Score: 1

    My boss however, got a hat. He's been at the company for 26 years, and they got him a baseball hat. I can't wait till I get my hat... I figure, I've only got another 25 years to go. mmm...baseball hat....

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    Insert witty .sig HERE.
  466. OFFTOPIC: Why So Many 5's? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Way too many Score 5's in this article. What's up with that?

  467. BONUS....LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bonus, Yeah right!! I am a programmer for a medium size company. I get a piss poor salary and work about 45-50 hrs a week. As a Xmas gift we are getting a damn $17 shirt with the company logo on it. Yet we are growing so fast we are hiring about 2-4 people a month and have a operating cost that is 33% lower then any other company, in the same industry, in the state.....I wonder why?

  468. The only reason it makes you mad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is the fact that for some reason you believe the company owes you something. I find that a lot of people (mostly those who complain all the time) feel that the world/life/"the man" owes them something. Well, they owe you a fair wage for your work and that's about it as far as obligation goes.
    Anything more than what you contractually agreed upon should be considered a gift (read: luxury). It's this attitude that fuels this ungrateful generation and is a good reason that the IT world is in the crapper.

    By the way, if you don't like the bobble head doll, and are so offended...quit. There's about 1000 people ready to take your position.

  469. last year... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    as a IT contractual, i get nothing while i watch the other permanents happily receive their bonus. I also heard our CEO got a VERY VERY big bonus, enough to buy a condo unit :(
    well, at least I have work, earning something and saving something for this stupid recession...
    well guess what? its that time again, seeing other happily getting their bonuses, our CEO getting another HUGE bonus... guess what? I don't care, as long as I have a job, getting paid good enough, saving some money, still young, then I guess I should be happy, maybe someday I'll earn something I've always been dreaming of, but for now, I should just accept and be happy with what I do have, its better than nothing anyways :)

  470. The Guys are going Dancing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a reward for all of our hard work (we're merging 2 different companies in a ridiculous amount of time) the Corporate Systems area has been granted an evening out ... staff only of course. We're being feted with a dinner, 2 free drinks and ... wait for it ... 2 hours of dancing. Did I mention that Corporate Systems is about 90% male? Well I suppose it won't be so bad ... you see, our site is being bused to the event. The bus leaves to return home halfway through the dance. If I wanted to dance with the other guys I might be upset that I have to leave early. Fortunately my wife will be waiting for me at home.

    Oh, the other thing we get is a corporate christmas lunch in our cafeteria. Something everyone looks forward to ... really. Coincidentally ... the Corporate Systems "dinner and dance" falls on the same day as the lunch. Something tells me that Corporate Systems won't be spending much money on dinner...

    1. Re:The Guys are going Dancing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If its the corporate systems that I know of, be ready for a huge layoff/pink slip party.... (http://www.csedge.com)

  471. Rank and File by LowellPorter · · Score: 2

    I work for a generous company. We got $700 and a cool pull over zip sweatshirth thing with the company logo on it.

    Way cool.

  472. Practical Gifts are the best by meowsqueak · · Score: 1

    well, I got a compact self-contained picnic blanket, which was pretty cool because a week before my girlfriend got a picnic 'pack' complete with chiller pouch and cutlery from her company. The two complement each other nicely. Now we are both looking forward to picnicing near Lake Taupo over New Years. Far more useful than a silly gift, although I did get a huge Christmas ham a few years back, which was cool.

  473. Didn't do too bad.......... by krisguy · · Score: 2, Funny
    • A catered prime rib dinner.
    • Very stinking damn drunk - on the boss
    • Some hardware as a door prize(as in Home Depot)
    • a check for $50 bucks
    • a gift card at the grocery for $50

    and all I had to do for all of this was to get drunk and sing "Like a Virgin" karaoke.

    What fun!
    --
    I'm a hamker. Hams, hackers, same ethos, different medium. == 73 de KB0STG
    1. Re:Didn't do too bad.......... by krisguy · · Score: 1

      My wife got a rather large ham from her job, too.

      --
      I'm a hamker. Hams, hackers, same ethos, different medium. == 73 de KB0STG
  474. Re:So what? Christmas has sweet FA to do with Chri by dramage · · Score: 1

    early evangelical christians in roman-era pagan europe bumped into some major issues when it came to getting converts. namely, most of those pagans didn't give two shakes about christ, but they *did* care about their traditional festivals.

    so in an effort to proselytize more of the locals, christians co-opted the local festivals, linking them to nearby christian holidays. (no one really had any idea when jesus was born anyway due to lowsy calendars and inaccurate information).

    festivals they couldn't wrestle into christian days were ridiculed. the new year - i.e. the logical one starting in the spring - became known as April Fools' Day.

    dramage

  475. I got a monkey for Christmas! by mandesean · · Score: 1

    Yeah, our group didn't get bonuses this year. Bummer. I did manage to snag a bobble head monkey at the company Christmas party. It came with a shriner-style fez hat. I mean it *is* a monkey and all. That's cool, but I would've rather seen the overhead from the party divided amongst our group ;)

  476. What I got from my company for Christmas... by bhmcintosh · · Score: 1

    I work for a big SEC university doing network stuff. What I got for Christmas was... the day off. No, wait- I'm on call Christmas. Guess I didn't get nuthin'.

    --
    Network geek with a strong affinity for Telecasters
  477. eBay by SEWilco · · Score: 1
    I'd sell it on eBay.

    No CEO bobble heads on eBay. Does that mean they're rare?
    Well, they're at least as common as "cigar butts"...zero of those on eBay.

  478. My Bonus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My bonus was my boss telling me that we are running out of money and I won't be getting my paycheck for much longer. Good thing I am working for another company on the side.

  479. Bobblehead doll == smackdown toy by mrhandstand · · Score: 1

    I don't know about this guy, but I've had bosses I'd love to be able to give a good head bobbling smack to...seems like it would help make me a happier employee...

    --
    Always value the individual over the system. --Bruce Lee "I don't need a Sig - I have a custom 191" - me
  480. My company gave us nothing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing at all. They fleece their clients and suck the life out of their employees while keeping the phantom of layoffs just around the corner to keep everyone motivated. So here's my xmas gift to my company:

    The company's name is "EuroRSCG Circle", and we do 'interactive marketing'. If you are considering having circle.com do any web work for you, run away fast. We _will_ rip you off, and we will do shitty work.

  481. gratefulness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Personally my boss took my family and I (wife and 4 kids) out to dinner along with the other people in our office. I was very, very appreciative-- the company did NOT OWE me the dinner. It was very nice.

    A bonus should not be expected unless it was part of your hiring/salary negotiations. Personally, I like big fat bonus checks, but I don't believe they are a requirement.

  482. I'll "bobble" your head, dumbass! by doggo · · Score: 1

    That CEO is an insensitive clod! What a jerk! You oughta place a trashcan in the lobby (covertly) with a sign on it and see how many employees toss theirs in. Hmm, maybe not covertly, I wouldn't want to work at a place like that.

    Anyway, all this complaining about bonuses...I work in higher education. We get a "holiday" party. Though it's not easy to be bitter about it. I chose to work in education, I have way better than average job security, good benefits, and a relatively low stress job. And an office with a door. I just don't make as much as people in business do. Then again, I have a job.

  483. ZERO by ethanms · · Score: 1

    nothing yet... but there's still a week until our two week shutdown... hmm... shutdown?

  484. what i got... by sewagemaster · · Score: 4, Funny

    "So... What did you get from your Company for Christmas?"

    sex from my secretary.... and her BOBBLING head....

  485. holly jolly pissing and moaning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I do have an account here, but posting anonymously when bitching about management who may also be reading this is probably wise..

    This is more of a general complaint about how the people who keep the company going get crapped on, and how this particular holiday just magnifies the issue even more than usual.

    I'll be working 12/24 and 12/25. This is after working every other holiday this year. Why is this? Well because while management can take the days off and pay themselves whatever they feel like, I get paid a fraction of a normal day for taking a holiday off. Considering what I am already making it is something which I cannot afford to do. Infact I will even be on call 24x7 over this holiday, just as I have been for the past several.

    Day off? What's that? I even work on projects unpaid on the weekends simply because at this point rather than hire people who can take the load off me and making such a thing unnecessary we hire people with skills that are more luxury than necessity.

    So for all this effort I am thanked by being forced to work through national holidays, perhaps the only real chance I would have at getting a day or two off all year.

    As for a bonus, that's laughable. Forget money. Generally it is a mostly useless toy that in no way makes up for the treatment I've received over the past 364 days. Rumor had it that this year we were going to be getting something which would be totally useless for me, considering that at my home I get an entire 2 television channels. Of course now there is talk that there will simply be no bonus whatsoever.

    Of course the managers are taking holidays on company money.

    Based on some other posts I've read this kind of behavior doesn't seem unique to my case at all. The fact that it can just continue with no apparent way of stopping it short of quitting and finding work elsewhere is depressing. You'll probably just end up in another place with the exact same kind of ordeal.

  486. Doesn't anyone realize... by Cbs228 · · Score: 1

    ... if every single worker in every single IT department went on strike, then almost all business everywhere would grind to a screeching halt as servers fail, networks go down, and copy machines run out of toner.

    We know who's really in control of this modern corporate empire now don't we?

    --
    At our school, we don't earn a degree when we graduate—we earn pi/180 radians
    1. Re:Doesn't anyone realize... by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

      The company would simply turn to the HORDES of starving, jobless IT workers and bring them in as scab labour.

      --
      Vintage computer games and RPG books available. Email me if you're interested.
  487. Say it with me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...you want fries with that?

  488. Xmas Bonuses. by JWSmythe · · Score: 2

    Last year:
    I got some cash, which was enough to buy the rest of the staff presents, because I know they didn't get shit..

    My girlfriend got laid off from Lockheed Martin. They laid off her entire department, as they do every year. Fire everyone, hire new staff, then you don't have to give raises.

    This year:
    I got the pleasure of being told to move 3000 miles, and foot most of the bill myself, and take a cut in pay (about 30%). My other option was job hunting. I'm still questioning if I made the right choice.

    My girlfriend moved with me, and hasn't found a job yet, so she doesn't get anything from a job..

    We haven't received anything but a warm rumor that there won't even be a company xmas party..

    My xmas bonus will come if the pager doesn't go off for a couple days from someone fucking up..

    --
    Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
  489. All I got for Christmas.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    12.9% bonus minus taxes
    and 5% raise starting in January?

  490. Come on... by mhandlon · · Score: 1

    Do you really need a Christmas bonus??? No, of course not, we don't care about Christmas... it's all about New Years Eve. As long as you have a beer, a whore, and enough money to bail yourself out on the 1st everything will be AOK.

    --
    Nyquil = Nectar of the devil
  491. All I got was a rock... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    our 300 MILLION dollar company gave each of us a logo shirt AND a $25 gift card! Whoo hoo! I still have my job though...

  492. it's the... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...breast exam!

  493. What are you talking about by ROBOKATZ · · Score: 1

    That is precisely the attitude! Success at all costs!

  494. A real turkey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really. We all got frozen turkeys. It's a yearly tradition.

    Two of my co-workers are strict vegetarians, so give theirs to friends who do eat meat, or to a local shelter.

    I stick mine in the deep freeze, then grill it around mid-August.

  495. I got all of the following... by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 2

    I didn't get shit. I'm the owner of the company. But I didn't give my employees shit either. They are the ones who fucked up. That's why we didn't make any money and are barely keeping our noses above the water. Anyone who complains can go fuck themselves, because I don't give a shit. If they had done their damn work and not given me excuses all year long, maybe they would have gotten something.

    1. Re:I got all of the following... by thunderbee · · Score: 1

      You own the company, it's your fault. If they're bad at what they do, fire them. If they need help, help them. Your fault. Owning a company is a reponsability to your employees. That includes proper management, and/or the courage to fire one that endangers the whole. Oh, and I know first hand what I'm talking about.

      --
      In my opinion, Scientology is a cult you should avoid.
  496. I work for the greatest company in the world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I received a case of Miller High Life.

    Mmm, beer.

  497. I'll tell you what I got: by jasonditz · · Score: 1

    I got laid the hell off.

  498. Lots of stuff! by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I got a monetary bonus, a BioWare coffee mug, a NWN collector's edition, and personal thanks from Ray and Greg, the owners and CEOs (just like everyone else did.)

    Besides that, however, I have the satisfaction of working at an incredible company with brilliant people. I'd do it all without any of the stuff I got this year.

    Job satisfaction is the best bonus of all. If you get a bobble-head doll, and feel like you need more of a bonus, you don't have the job satisfaction that you deserve. Move on.

    1. Re:Lots of stuff! by DaEvOsH · · Score: 1

      Sounds nice! Now stop showing off!! (cause I a m jealous).

      I get: a xmas dinner. And nothing. So much for working overtime...

    2. Re:Lots of stuff! by geekoid · · Score: 2

      You just posted that to rub it in...dick. ;)

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    3. Re:Lots of stuff! by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 2

      Not really. :)

      Mostly, I'm pointing out that job satisfaction is the REAL bonus of the Christmas season.

      I suppose I'm rubbing it in that I have a tremendous amount of job satisfaction, though. :)

  499. christmas boneheads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    i have to admit to some level of astonishment at some of the responses i am seeing here, even by regular /. standards. it is particularly a drag to see all the messages along the lines of "why do you think you deserve any kind of bonus for christmas at all?", coupled with some real pinheaded defenses of "ceo's over the rank-and-file" uber capitalist type junk

    for all you suck-up i-read-ayn-rand-once-and-whoo-boy-do-i-know-how-th ings-really-are wonks...

    america, justice, freedom and yes, your precious precious enormocorps were, are , and likely always will be built on the efforts of working people. executives, ceo's, politicos, upper management and the like all contribute to that effort, too, but the brass balls bread and butter heart and soul of american worklife is the people who punch clocks, tap code, answer the phones, sort the mail, execute the schematics, maintain the servers, teach the kids, drive the bus, file the duplicates, bag your groceries and run the machines that make america and the whole damn world go.

    corporate officers and board members do some high-level steering, no doubt or question, but i'll be damned if it makes any lick of cosmic sense that with "hard times" and "necessary cutbacks" those mooks deserve 6 figure bonuses while the standard joe and jane punchcards have to carry home a freaking bobblehead to put under the christmas tree or chanukah bush.

    considering the amount of setbacks the labor movement has incurred in the last 30 or so years i guess it isn't a surprise that so many people have been encouraged (brainwashed?) to think that merely having a job is a sign of incredible corporate generosity, but when they're squeezing 50+ hours out of you, raising your co-pay on the insurance you're "lucky" to have, demanding you do ever more on an ever smaller paycheck... well, i think you deserve a christmas/holiday/end-of-year bonus. and yes, i do mean automatically, for anyone there 90 days or longer, in an amount the company can afford; if they have the green to pay 8 million in bonuses to 20 executives they could just as easily and much more humanely give ten thousand employees $800 each instead. *that* would be a real joy and victory for decency and the american way

    and for those who think that workers don't deserve a bonus... well merry christmas to you too, scrooge, and have fun down at ken lay's house while the canapes last. santa has some coal for you.

  500. Send it to f*ckedcompany by msoftsucks · · Score: 1

    I would send this to the guys at f*ckedcompany.com. Its just a matter of time till your company appears on that list.

    --
    Quit playing Monopoly with Bill.
    Linux - of the people, by the people, and for the people.
  501. All I got was... by jeremyds · · Score: 1

    A one year subscription to the Jelly of the Month club. It's the gift that keeps on giving all year long.

  502. What did I get from my Company for Christmas? by featheredfrog · · Score: 1

    Laid off. Along with 6999 of my closest colleagues.

    Merry Christmas!

  503. Screw you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Honestly the corporations are so full of shit always trying to squeeze employees. I wonder what happens treat your employees like crap and you do not see returns it is time tech was incentivized like people in business fields are.

    The techs and workers do all the work, a bunch of suited monkey make decisions and see the techs as a cost rather than what they are, a savings. They pat themselves on the back for building a company and doing everything when it was the hardworking technical people building value they will never see. I know a CFO of a company and have heard stories of how sad some of the other executives trying to cut the yearly bonuses and raises while they go out and build 2 million dollar homes in florida to compliment their 10mil main homes, buying jet shares, while crying the blues and trying to cheat hardworking employees and on top of this make them pay the increased price for health insurance.

    So just remember how many stupid business people are paying themselves while the people building the value suffer. The idea of the bonus is to tell the employees the companies value their hardwork and the fact that the company needs them. So no bonus is a slap in the face especially if things remain good for upper management.

    Honestly the bad times we are encountering is because of the stupidity of these upper management types and their slowing of corporate spending, their disreputable practices, and the corporate structure which strives to keep the talented down because idiots are in charge.

    Honest read business week and you will hear about farming engineering out as if it was manufacturing. It is too bad that most of these management types would crack under the stress of engineering and probably would not make it through University.

    By not giving a bonus the message is, the company only wants to keep you in the job so we will only placate you when you have options. Do you know what I say, F*CK that I will then only do what has to be done to keep my job. If ceo types realized this they would see if you make people think the company values them and will promote them, give them bonuses and salary increases we will see more productive companies.

  504. Christmas Bonus by guile*fr · · Score: 1

    In France jobless people expect and are granted christmas bonus on their compensation.

    sad but true.

  505. Insulting gift, nothing would be better by dh003i · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No one's entitled to a Christmas bonus. Its an extra, a nice optional that companies may or may not choose to give. Of course, the reason companies do so is to endear their employees to the company. Companies that don't do such may be susceptible to poorer relations with their employees, and may run higher risks of strikes and other problems. Etc.

    But a Christmas gift is not something one is entitled to, nor gauranteed. However, I agree with the person who submitted the article: giving employees a doll of the CEO is insulting. What does he think, that they all should admire him that much that they should make a doll-house for a miniature of himself? What an ego-maniacal thing to give employees. Like anyone has any use for this thing.

    It would be better not to give anything at all, than to give something that insulting.

    Imagine if for Christmas, I gave my girlfriend a miniature doll of myself...I'm sure that'd fly over real well, right?

    1. Re:Insulting gift, nothing would be better by waspleg · · Score: 2

      RTFA it's a She

      which figures because it takes a woman to be both that vain AND cruel (rimshot)

  506. xmas bonus? by interdigitate · · Score: 1

    so let me get this straight, we are supposed to get christmas bonuses????

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    1. Re:xmas bonus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should ask for a real computer too

  507. My gift... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What did you get from your Company for Christmas?

    Laid off. On my birthday. Happy Birthday, and Merry Christmas.

    Blah blah blah.

  508. Donations vs. Gifts by breon.halling · · Score: 2

    This year we did one of those "Secret Santa" things -- y'know, you draw a name from a hat, and have to buy someone a gift of $20.00 (Canadian) or under.

    So I sent out a department-wide email, stating that I would prefer a donation to the World Wildlife Fund or the World Society for the Protection of Animals, which are two causes I support regularly (please give! =).

    Several co-workers answered with an affirmative "That's a good idea -- whomever got my name in the Secret Santa draw should make a donation, too!"

    Anyhow, sending out this email caused quite a stir in the office, as some (anonymous) people responded saying they wanted gifts, not charitable donations. Others responded with messages stating how the department should pool its resources and adopt a tiger (although this can be had for $40.00CAD through the WWF).

    An email thread continued for quite some time, bouncing the 'donation vs. (tangible) present' idea back-and-forth, until my manager responded with an email, paraphrased below:

    "This Secret Santa was meant to be a joyful gift exchange, but seeing as how we can't agree on physical gifts or charitable ones, we should just cancel the entire thing."

    Now, I realise that my manager was playing peacemaker, but it just goes to show you the general atmosphere of my workplace.

    Sorry, I just had to rant...

    Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are MINE AND MINE ALONE. They do not represent those of my (un-named) place of business.

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  509. Maybe some by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I trust CEO types who built their company or saved it from ruin they had vision, talent, and leadership. What I don't like are CEO's like MS Fiorina of HPaq because they fail to see the value added by R&D. Some people did work hard others are just assholes. Most CEO types are master manipulators. Chances are you as an employee add more to the corporatation proportionally than the CEO does. You do not realise the compensation for most big CEOs is in the field of millions.

    On top of this these fricken rich people manage to skirt taxes and pass it on to the people who work. Even if you make a very large salary you are paying percentage wise more than the truely wealthy and it is wrong why most we get screwed for some one else.

    1. Re:Maybe some by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Regarding your last paragraph:
      I'm not rich yet, but I'm trying. I had often heard similar claims that "rich people manage to skirt taxes..." and eventually believed it might be true. Now like I said, I'm not rich, but I'm making enough to hire good lawyers that I expect to find good loopholes. But the fact is that I'm still getting soaked (about 45% in income/dividends/capgains taxes), even after paying tens of thousands per year for tax lawyers in multiple countries.
      If you have hard evidence that rich people could skirt taxes, could you please post the details? It would save me a lot of trouble. If not, I encourage people to question this statement. I think it's been said so much that people are believing it without critical analysis.

  510. Less than nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmmm, let's see, four days without pay. That's right, company shutdown, loss of wages... Merry Chrismas! I would have loved to get a bobble-head doll and a full paycheck...

  511. I agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want to see area adjusted tax rates because in CA fricken 150,000 is not alot of money but in alabama you are rich. If you are having a hard time paying the bills 47% taxes are a killer. Hell they pay less than that in canada, get free college, free healcare, and the cost of living is less. If only it were not so cold.

  512. Financial services company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work for a very large mutual fund company. The past two years the company officers recieved no bonus, and at my company bonus for officers is a very significant portion of their financial compensation. The elves recieved bonuses, based on merit, and raises, just smaller than usual.

    This year everyone gets a bonus, based on merit, and the Officers and top two management layers will not recieve raises, but the elves will.

    Oh, did I mention that we haven't laid off any anyone.

  513. Economic and human law... by ROBOKATZ · · Score: 1

    "Benefits become entitlements". Don't start giving or letting someone have something if you can't afford to keep giving it.

  514. How about any bonus? by phorm · · Score: 2

    Somebody already made that joke, I was going to too but checked first. This is the first thing that comes to mind though... maybe this guy should ask his bro (or somebody else with a nut loose and few scruples) to bring his boss in hogtied with a big bow so he can tell him how he feels about the bobble-head doll.

    I've never had a holiday bonus, but I've worked a few companies that were very good to employees. On one of my better jobs, you banked an extra holiday for every 2 weeks where there was no stat, we also had a very nice departmental picnic and various prizes that good employees one (plus a draw that anyone could win). Everyone I know at that job was great to get along with, and the company environment was incredible.

    If I had ever needed to, I would have gone out of my way (overtime, holiday work, on-call, etc) for that company in a second - because I knew I was appreciated. Maybe we don't need an Xmas bonus, but just a donation of appreciation (hell, a box of chocolates or even a chocolate bar) makes me feel a lot better about how my employers appreciate me.

    For all those that are scraping coins right now, I wish you better days ahead, happy holidays, and perhaps a lucky lottery ticket.

  515. Bastard Ingrates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because this was a tough year, all I got was $65 million instead of the $100 million I exepected. I even took it upon myself to by a nice, tasteful holiday trinket for my employees so they could be inspired by my selfless sacrifice for the company. What do I get for it? Just ungrateful bitching.

  516. You are correct.. by ROBOKATZ · · Score: 1

    most tech companies have increased revenues while not expanding to match growth (or continue to "downsize"). Profits are booming. 4Q earnings should be impressive.

  517. True by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on our educations for what, they treat us like factory workers.

  518. I made out like a bandit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got a laser printer. A fax machine. Some staplers. A chair. A work station. Some good speakers. A scanner. Two monitors. A CD-RW drive. And a shitload of software.

    I took them all home and now I'm having a very Merry Christmas!

  519. Oddly Enough... by http101 · · Score: 0

    ...one year, my boss, let's call him, "Bill", gave me a handshake and a farewell for Christmas after making me drive all across town to pick up engineering drawings and visit job sites on my day off. Thanks.

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  520. What did i get from work for X-mas? by Sibian · · Score: 1

    I got laid off 30 days from X-mas The pricks...Projected Return date is Feb 1st. Hell the X-mas party was even Cancled.. Bosses got 10% of yearly Salary as a X-mas Bonus.

  521. How much $$ is an insulting bonus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    For all the people complaining that they would rather have the $$ spent on the toy: Reality check: the infamous bobble-head doll cost at most a few dollars, certainly less than $5, probably closer to $2 in quantity.


    This is a serious question:


    Is a "bonus" of a few dollars cash really any better than a silly toy? Put aside any consideration that the toy is in poor taste, or exceedingly egotistic. Pretend it's just funny, but essentially lacking any intrinsic value. A tree ornament, whatever.


    Would a "bonus" of an extra $5 really make anyone any happier?

  522. Party canceled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We canceled the restaurant party, and shut down for two weeks without pay. My wife and I decided the company needed a party even more, and volunteered to host a potluck this week. I think most people in our small company (10 people) will show up.

    Happy holidays!

  523. Re:At divine.com last year... - MOD PARENT UP. by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 3, Informative

    Fucking "I have it worse than all of you" whiners. A bobble head of the guy who made money off of YOUR work while YOU had to scrape by is certainly worth bitching about. It's like leaving a small tip. It's worse than no tip at all.

  524. Don't you use anything? by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 2

    The real problem to married couples with children isn't salaries, it's taxes.

    Nowadays, the tax rate is so oppressive one person has to work just to pay the tax burden.

    And yet, like the sheep that we are, we will continue voting for republicrats or demopublicans that'll just keep sticking it to us.


    And just how exactly do you suggest that governments pay for everything?

    Emergency services, armed forces, welfare programmes, legal systems, healthcare and other municipal services don't grow on trees you know. Or were you expecting policemen, firemen, soldiers, social workers, court clerks, doctors, nurses and garbage collectors to work for nothing?

    Try living in the real world for a change.

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    "Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
    1. Re:Don't you use anything? by EricWright · · Score: 2

      Why don't you explain the three-fold increase in the average family tax burden between 1955 and 1998? In the 1955, the average family (one income) had a 17% tax burden. In 1998, the number was approaching 40%. If you take the taxes paid by the median American 1-income family and inflation-adjust the total dollars, you have the 1955 family paying just under 4000 1998-dollars (and about $5500 for the rare 2-income family). In 1998, the number was up to nearly $14000 for a 1-income family, and over $26000 for 2-income families. (http://www.taxfoundation.org/prmedianfamily.html)

      In the 1950s, a single income family was feasible due to the lower tax burden on the middle classes, and they still had armed forces, police, firefighting, public education, etc. What they had a lot less of was bureaucracy... and a 90% tax rate on the insanely rich. I don't find that high rate fair, but which is more fair: an insanely high tax rate on people who will still have a lot of money left after taxes, or a flat tax rate that will place an unreasonable burden on those at the low end of the income spectrum? As you say, you've got a lot of necessary gov't employees to pay. You have to choose an option... which is it?

      And by the way, leave out doctors and nurses. In the US, we don't have socialized health care. It's a capitalist health care world here. Doctors charge patients who can fork over their money to the medical professionals, or pay health insurance companies to do it for them.

      Something to think about, no?

    2. Re:Don't you use anything? by The+AtomicPunk · · Score: 2

      How exactly did we survive before we paid an average of 55% of our income in taxes? Or before we paid income taxes at all?

      I guess by your spelling you're a Yuro-peen. You guys can have fun over there - tax yourselves to death, hell, just fork over your entire income and live "safe and cozy".

      However, I don't want to pay for anyone else's healthcare, and I don't want them paying for mine. Piss off, and give me my money back. 50% of our taxes go into wealth redistribution - I hardly see why I need to spend 3 months out of the year working for someone who deserves my income more than I do.

      It's really scary living in the real world, maybe someday you'll grow a pair and won't need to live in a nanny-state.

    3. Re:Don't you use anything? by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hey, it's nice that you can be so smug and superior towards others. It must give you a warm rosy glow inside that helps you cut down on your heating bills.

      Perhaps you might want to consider a couple of salient points.

      1. The tax burden for individuals is pretty much the same in most western countries.

      However much you pay in tax in the US, it's not that much different to how much you'd pay if you lived in Canada, the UK, Germany, Australia or just about every other developed nation.

      2. How your tax dollars (or pounds, or euros, or whatever) significantly impacts how much disposable income you have.

      If your government spends $2 billion on a stealth bomber then that's $2 billion less that it can spend on other things. If it buys 144 of the things, that's $288 billion gone.

      (And you wonder where your taxes go?)

      That $288 billion could have been spent on other things. In just about every other country in the western world a chunk of it would have been spent on free healthcare, free further education, social welfare programmes, etc.

      Now you may argue that welfare programmes do nothing for you (and we'll leave aside how short-sighted that is for now) but surely you'd like not to have to spend a chunk of your salary (or the chunk that your employer pays on your behalf) on health insurance? And surely you'd like to be able to spend, save or invest the several thousand dollars a year that you plough into your kids' college funds?

      Before you start spouting rubbish about "Yuro-peens" taxation perhaps you could check the facts.

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      "Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
    4. Re:Don't you use anything? by ProfBooty · · Score: 2

      actually most of the taxes americans pay goto pay for entitlements (social security, medicare/aid) and financing our debt payments. Social security (direct payments to the elderly) may fail in the long run since the ratio of retiree's to workers is falling. Additionally, the rate of return is quite low on social security funds (about 2%). What it does do, is force people to save, who otherwise can't or wouldn't. It does hurt those who can afford to save, or can invest wisely.

      the u.ss's spending on the military is what has made the US a world power, both militaraly and economically. It does provide a lot of research jobs here.

      Our tax rates here are less than europe. We don't have VAT either, something which politicians here try to bring over, but always fails when it comes to a vote.

      The US tax burden on citizens has increased as well, infact i remember seeing a graph in time a few years back which projected that by 2020, the average american would be paying 8%0 of their income. While i doubt this will happen, it is true that americans are paying more in sales/income etc than they ever did before.

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    5. Re:Don't you use anything? by The+AtomicPunk · · Score: 2

      1. No, actually as bad as our taxes are, we're still paying a lot less than you. When I quote 55%, that's our total taxes. That means when I buy a pizza for $10, and $6 of it ends up being paid in taxes along the route (farmers, tomato sauce canners, etc), the total ends up being 55% of our income, on average.

      2. Where in my post did I say I wanted 144 stealth bombers? However, at least providing for the common defense is the most legitimate purpose of a national government. Isn't that pretty much why we form governments?

      3. We spend far more on health care than we do on the military.

      4. Welfare programs don't do anything for me. Amazingly enough, we got along fine without them for a couple of hundred years. Shocking as it may be, you yuro-peens got along without them for a few thousand years. Although I suspect anyone with even the slightest sense of independence long since left your continent.

      5. Yes, why don't we look at yuro-peen taxes? How about Germany? Income is taxed at 60%. Corporations are taxed at 45%, unless they fall under the special "entrepreneurial taxes" of 47-53%. Wow, you guys sure have us beat on "punish the succesful".

      6. A huge chunk of my income towards health care? I'm sorry, I live in a (mostly) capitalist country. I pay $60 a month for excellent health insurance. I probably average about $40 in out of pocket expenses per year. Wow, if only the government would rape me for another $20k or so a year to pay for "free" health care, then my life would be complete.

      I also appreciate that our medical care is actually GOOD. In fact, it's the best in the world. Thank god it's not free yet!

      Oh sorry - I should qualify that for you collectivists. That's based on quality, not quantity.

    6. Re:Don't you use anything? by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 2

      1. As I've quoted elsewhere recently on Slashdot, "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics". Believe what you want but most economists agree that the tax burden on the individual doesn't drastically differ between developed countries.

      2. You didn't say you wanted 144 stealth bombers; I never suggested that you did. But you do want to be defended and, as I was trying to point out in my original point, defence costs money.

      I used the example of stealth bombers to illustrate more than one point: not only does the US spend a large chunk of money on defence, but a lot of that spending is excessive.

      Ask yourself this, why does the USAF need a bomber that's designed to be invisible to radar, deliver 16 nukes for defence? Why on earth does it need 144 of them?

      (Do you ever get the feeling that the US defence
      industry has a disproportionately large lobby in Washington?)

      3. No matter how much the US spends on healthcare, as a proportion of GDP it ranks way below just about every other country in the developed world. On the flip side of that coin, as a proportion of GDP, the US spends more than just about everyone else.

      Bottom line: you could spend more on doctors and less on nukes. But you don't.

      4. Welfare programmes do a lot for you. You just don't realise it.

      Fact: poverty and crime are related. More poverty leads to more crime. Less poverty leads to less crime. And that's just one example of how welfare helps you indirectly.

      But, let's just suppose something nasty were to happen to you and you became sick and unable to work. Sure, insurance will help - for a while - but who are you going to turn to when your insurer says you're no longer their problem? Who's going to put a roof over your head and food on your table then?

      5. Again with the lies, damned lies, and statistics.

      German interest rates are tiered, and the highest rate, which kicks in above 55,007 Euros (roughly equivalent to the same number of US dollars) is 48.5%.

      I don't know what the corporation rates are but your figure for personal income tax is out by almost 25%. Let's just say this doesn't encourage me to believe any of your figures are accurate.

      6. You pay $760 a month for health care now. How much do you think you'd pay if you were diagnosed with a serious illness? How much do you think you'll pay in ten years time? Do you see that figure staying the same or going up?

      And just how good do you think the level of care for someone unfortunate enough to be unemployed and uninsured might be?

      Just about everywhere else in the western world, healthcare is free at the point of delivery. If you want to see your doctor, if you need some stiches or if you need a new heart then the tax payer pays. At no point is an insurance company's say-so, a credit card, or a bank statement needed before what might be life-saving treatment is given.

      Which approach do you think is more enlightened? Which do you think is more moral? Which do you think is more humane?

      7. I notice you conveniently forgot to mention a free education.

      In Germany (I'll use Germany as an example as you have already done so), if you want to go to university then you have the right to do so. Automatically. The government not only guarantees you a university education, it also pays for your tuition fees and gives you grants so that you can fund yourself throughout your studies.

      Consequently, while US students find themselves heavily in debt upon graduation ($60,000 is a pretty typical figure from what friends tell me), German students usually start their working lives unencumbered by a mountain of debt.

      Bottom line: a higher proportion of Germans than Americans go to university (and hence enjoy a better education) simply because the cost doesn't hinder them.

      Which do you think is better? Which do you think will lead to a better educated population, capable of contributing more to their society?

      (Also, while we're on the subject of Germany, let's appreciate their superior healthcare system. When you register with your doctor in Germany, you automatically get a full medical check up. Blood tests, X-rays, the lot. How progressive is that?)

      My original point stands. If you want emergency services, armed forces, welfare programmes, legal systems, healthcare, etc then you have to pay for them. The way you pay for them is taxes. Stop whining about it.

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    7. Re:Don't you use anything? by goofballs · · Score: 1

      why does the USAF need a bomber that's designed to be invisible to radar, deliver 16 nukes for defence? Why on earth does it need 144 of them?

      1) the stealth bomber is obviously an excellent deterrent to other states
      2) it carries conventional weapons also, not just nukes
      3) there are only 20 of them, not 144
      4) even though they cost more, they are COST EFFECTIVE, in monetary terms, and regarding human life. you need less of them, they hit more targets (and are less likely to hit unintended targets, like civilians...), and they're more survivable for the pilots. take a look at how well the stealth fighter did in the persian gulf...
      when you look at the big picture, and not just the unit cost, stealth planes appear far from exessive.

      No matter how much the US spends on healthcare, as a proportion of GDP it ranks way below just about every other country in the developed world
      that's because we have a larger gdp. that's a *GOOD* thing.

      More poverty leads to more crime. Less poverty leads to less crime.
      you're stating there's a causal relationship? i don't think i've ever seem any reputable studies state this; surely there's a correlation, but that's it.

      You pay $760 a month for health care now. How much do you think you'd pay if you were diagnosed with a serious illness?
      uhh, exactly the same because i have insurance!

      Just about everywhere else in the western world, healthcare is free at the point of delivery
      but relatively substandard...

      I notice you conveniently forgot to mention a free education... ), if you want to go to university then you have the right to do so. Automatically..Which do you think is better? Which do you think will lead to a better educated population, capable of contributing more to their society?
      i think a population that recognizes the importance of an education and is willing to make the personal sacrifices to get one is likely to get more out of it and be the dominant power as a result of it...

  525. brinker... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work for Brinker International Foods Corp (The presiding business over restaraunts like Chili's Grill and Bar, Macaroni Grill, Corner Bakery, etc)...

    I took three months off to go to school, and when I came back, I noticed I had been demoted to my old job that I had worked past. What ever, they're all scathing bastards.
    Mike

  526. Start a company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you don't like the way you're treated at work, then start your own company. You'll soon find out the challenges of being an employer. Working for someone is a priviledge, not a right.

  527. at BofA we got by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    holiday pink slips as well...5000 in total
    Merry Fscking Christmas. Of course the CEO got a HUGE BONUS and we got a pat on the back for great work and told no raise, do more cause we laid off 15% of the support staff....

  528. Hahahaha! by CaffeinieBaby · · Score: 1

    Oh, it was a serious question?
    A job for at least another couple of months.

  529. Christmas? Bonus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah right. The company I work for is slated to make about 7 BILLION US dollars at the end of the quarter. I don't know what the boys up top are getting (but I'm sure it's valuable, green and in large quantities) but us down here are getting precisely jack shit. Oh, I forgot, they're giving us 2 weeks off for the Christmas break...but it's not paid vacation, so we have to use whatever time we have left or take a massive pay cut. The only raise I ever get around here is the middle finger.

  530. Charity by Trracer · · Score: 1

    The company I work for donated money in my name for charity.
    I suggest you donate to a good cause too.
    Here are some links with information:
    American red cross
    Doctors without borders

    Merry Christmas.

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  531. Vasoline. by lposeidon · · Score: 0

    A big jar of vasoline. the boss was thoughful to ease the pain of whats to come...

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  532. I got ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a chocolate Santa and a lotto ticket.

  533. Um, no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know some people who are out of work who are excellent at what they do -- far better than 90% of the people who are still employed. The fact is, the job market sucks an artificially large amount right now.

    People who are in crap jobs are in many cases doing it because they have bills to pay, not because they are gluttons for punishment.

    Furthermore, I genuinely believe that after years of employers having to cater to employees and try to please them by buying them free cokes and stuff, there are some employers who are really enjoying having the tables turned. (In fact, one employer of mine came out and told me that he was very pleased about it!)

  534. That's nuts by Wee · · Score: 2
    Hourly IS the only way to go in IT.
    ...
    But, hourly, you get paid more, you work less (or get paid a HELL of a lot more), you don't have to deal with the beauracratic bullshit, and you can switch jobs at will.

    That's a completely absurd statment and you know it. The days of switching IT jobs "at will" are gone (assuming they were even really there). You might get paid more up front as an non-exempt employee, but you lose a lot in the long run (like vacation time, paid holidays, medical benefits, retirement benefits, stock options/profit sharing, etc) which can make up for a lot of "lost pay".

    I can't recall any instance of a company wanting to hire someone who demands an hourly wage over one who doesn't. If you're a 1099 contractor type, then that's one thing. But it's not the same as getting paid hourly.

    Anyway, if you've found your niche then more power to you. But let people find security where they can -- in actually having a job. If you find a good job that you wouldn't mind doing which pays a decent salary, then take it. If you don't, then lots of others will be glad to fill your place.

    -B

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    1. Re:That's nuts by NineNine · · Score: 2

      Wow. You sound like a bitter "perm" employee who's never worked as a contractor. First off, every contract job I did paid 50-100% times more than the same people doing the same job as "perm". That MORE than made up for the "benefits" such as those few paltry days off (which contractors generally get to take at will, unlike the poor "perm" people who have to beg off), the stock options which generally cost more in tax liability then you ever make, or nonexistent "retirement" benefits.

      I worked contract because the jobs were easy to find. Tons of companies would rather outsource then bring on "perm" employees. That's why most of the jobs in the paper/online were through head shops.

      As far as security, I had a laundry list of projects under my belt in just a few years. In those same few years a "perm" employee might have one. "Security" comes through being valuable, not having some arbitrary job. I was valuable. I could get a new job whenever I wanted because I had so much good experience. In my six years, I saw a hell of a lot more different projects than "perm" employees generally saw in 20 years.

      You sound really, really bitter. Work as a W2 contractor. Make yourself valuable, not just another piece of deadwood in some company. You'll see that the $$ you make, and the lifestyle is many times better than some poor schlub pulling in a salary year after year.

    2. Re:That's nuts by Wee · · Score: 2
      Wow. You sound like a bitter "perm" employee who's never worked as a contractor. First off, every contract job I did paid 50-100% times more than the same people doing the same job as "perm". That MORE than made up for the "benefits" such as those few paltry days off (which contractors generally get to take at will, unlike the poor "perm" people who have to beg off), the stock options which generally cost more in tax liability then you ever make, or nonexistent "retirement" benefits.

      I'm not at all bitter (if anything, you sound like you've been burned as perm worker or something). I'm the type that likes to have a known quantity: I know what money is coming in at what time. I've done contract work, and made decent money. It's just not a life I want to live. You do get to learn a lot and do a lot of interesting things over short periods of time for different people. That part I liked. But there are risks involved with being a contractor and I'm not at this poitn willing to take them. I've known a few that had some pretty lean months. Others have done ok (mostly because of very long-term contracts). Every one I've known has had at least one experience of abject terror, every one has had to chase down payment. Some people love it. Others not so much. Lately, I'm more into just being a plain old worker bee.

      I already won the stock option lottery (I worked for Qualcomm and got in on the eight-to-one split), and now I am into protecting what I have and the stability that money has created. That's why I took a job at a university. I get 11 paid holidays and 3 weeks vacation a year. My salary is in line with industry standards. I can work from home a couple days a week as well if I want. I get nearly free health care, free schooling if I want to take it, a 403(b) that got my 401(k) rolled into it, and even a pension (at a guaranteed 7.5%). All that's worth a lot to me. Sure, it's the oatmeal of jobs. It's kind of bland and not very flashy, but it's good, interesting work with incredibly smart people and it's very stable. I like stable. Maybe I'm just getting old. I dunno.

      BTW, I agree 100% about security coming through being valuable. Making a reputation for yourself as someone who can do whatever needs doing whenever it needs to be done is of paramount importance if you want to stay employed. When you get to the point where people want to hire you purely because they know who you are and what you can do, then things are where they need to be security-wise. That's doubly true in this economy.

      -B

      --

      Ash and Hickory, straight-grained and true, make excellent bludgeons, dandy for the cudgeling of vegetarians.

    3. Re:That's nuts by NineNine · · Score: 2

      Oh, I definitely had trouble collecting when I was workign completely freelance. I had to take a Fortune 500 almost to court to get paid, but luckily my lawyer scared them into paying before it went into a lawsuit. 90% of my time in IT was spent as a W2 employee for various head shops (like Hall Kinion). I didn't have to worry about being paid in those situations. I got paid for the hours I worked, regardless of whether or not the end client paid Hall Kinion, Kelly Tech, Matrix, or whoever I was working for at the time. I made enough money that not only was I able to buy all the toys I wanted, but I was also able to sock away a lot. That's what I used to start my current brink & mortar business. I don't think I would've had nearly enough money if I was just permanent. And yes, I was burned a couple of times as a "perm" employee, and I've known many other people who have been too. It almost always came down to working 60+ hours a week, which of course, on a salary, brings the real hourly wage waaaaay down. Most contracts that I worked on were 3-9 months, with one lasting a full year. As long as I didn't stagnante in my skills, I was always able to pick up another contract, either through my current contracting agency or another one. But ultimately, it was that constant need to run just to stay caught up that completely drove me out of IT. Now the closest that I get to a computer is my POS system at my shop. Talk about burnout!

    4. Re:That's nuts by Wee · · Score: 2
      But ultimately, it was that constant need to run just to stay caught up that completely drove me out of IT. Now the closest that I get to a computer is my POS system at my shop. Talk about burnout!

      I hear you on that one. I know a lot of people that got completely burned out on anything involving a computer. Die-hard Solaris guys swearing off Unix and buying Macs (before OS X even), Unix/network guys going back to school for biology degrees, and even one 4D database guy becoming a middle manager at a Windows IT outsourcing shop.

      We're all getting to the same place: stasis. We're seeking our own level. We all want to become one with that hypothetical environment we long imagined ourselves being happy in. It's a different imagined environment for everyone, each customized to one's own proclivities and world view.

      You're happy running an old-school, physical-world shop. I'm happy as a pensioner. It's all good, and better than working in food service.

      -B

      --

      Ash and Hickory, straight-grained and true, make excellent bludgeons, dandy for the cudgeling of vegetarians.

  535. Suckiest Christmas bonus of all time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On Wednesday, December 4, I was called into a meeting with my Technical and Manging Directors. Also present was the company accountant.

    Effective immediately, I was made redundant. I was asked to pick up my stuff and go. This was code for "Clear out your desk, never come back."

    Merry f*cking Christmas.

  536. Best Company Christmas Bonus to Date by swdunlop · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This past year, I swallowed my pride and joined a local ISP while I waited for my dream employer to come out of a hiring freeze. After about eight months with a really nice group of people but no real challenge or pay to match, the freeze ended and I switched companies, to the disappointment of the ISP.

    I was very sad to go, and I felt more than a little guilty about the fact. Last week, my wife and I received some very persistant invitations to my former employer's Christmas party; my wife went, since I was out of town, and received a prorated Christmas Bonus and a lot of general good will from the owner of the company and the staff.

    Usually when an employee leaves a company for a bigger position elsewhere, an undercurrent of nastiness follows: the company and its people resents the loss of the employee. This company, though, insists on keeping a very friendly relationship with me, including repeated open invitations to stop by and mooch coffee.

    The bonus was pretty meager, compared to what I remember from the .com days, but the fact that it was offered at all, to an ex-employee, was probably the nicest thing I've ever seen a company do.

    1. Re:Best Company Christmas Bonus to Date by Xandar01 · · Score: 1

      So what and where was this local ISP? Do they still have an opening or was the pay there so menial that you wouldn't recommend them?

      I am sure many of those unemployed /.ers would love to try an fill them shoes.

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      Life moves pretty fast; if you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. -FB
    2. Re:Best Company Christmas Bonus to Date by swdunlop · · Score: 1

      Any slashdotters who currently live in the Midcoast Maine area are welcome to contact me.. The position was filled, but I'm sure they wouldn't mind me handing them a resume for talented people.

      The pay is not sufficient to justify relocation, however.

  537. Don't ask... take. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead of hoping your boss will graciously appreciate your hard work and give you what you want (aka more money), go and *get* your money. If that means quitting your job and doing *whatever* it takes to meat your goals, then do it.

    You may end up in a different career, or you may even end up behind bars, but at least you went for the whole pie instead of hoping for a handout.

    This may sound far-fetched and idealistic (and even off-topic), but it's really your only option if you want to succeed in life. Stop hoping for hand-outs. There are none.

  538. Digital cameras by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Apparently, we are getting digital cameras for Christmas...Toshiba 2300.

    You didn't hear it from me!

  539. 1001 uses by KlausBreuer · · Score: 1

    Hmmm... never saw a 'bobble' doll here in Germany.
    Does the head burst if you jump on it? What about hanging it from a noose, you think your company would comment on that?
    Or follow Dilberts lead: put it on your monitor and slap it every time you feel irritated.

    I don't really see what the fuss is about. You don't like it, dump it in the trash or, better yet, do something [de|con]structive with it.

    Ciao,
    Klaus

    PS: Okay, I'll admit it. Our company is giving its annual christmas dinner bash at a nice restaurant, and we're all looking forward to it :)

    --
    Free PC version of ChipWits at http://www.breueronline.de/klaus/chipwits/
  540. Re:So what? Christmas has sweet FA to do with Chri by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 1
    Wasn't the drift in Christmas due to a failure to understand the length of the solar year correctly (365.24 days IIRC) and various egotistical Roman emperors screwing up the calendar (the best example of this is that February only has 28 days because Augustus and Julius Caesar wanted "their" months to have 31 days instead of 30)?

    I bet the emperors gave away dolls of themselves to their senators too. With little togas and laurel crowns.

    --
    When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
  541. bonuses... by Ninjacam · · Score: 1

    Well, we've never received Christmas bonuses...When we receive bonuses (if we do) they usually come around April for whatever reason, and are **small** monetary amounts.

    Of course, this year, myself and many others will receive no bonuses because we were laid off. Meanwhile, the CEO raked in over $32-million in salary and bonuses even though the stock was sinking. That makes no sense to me, but hey, what do I care now other than the fact that the stock options I'd built up are now worthless.

    Those bobblehead dolls of the CEO are the ultimate in ego-tripping for the bastard. I think if I had gotten one of those I would've ripped the head off it, put some red paint on the neck area, and sent the "severed" head via post to his office ;)

    The company that laid me off, a major telco in the US and beyond, was never very good at giving decent raises or bonuses to the drones. Some managers would give small gifts around Christmas, usually things that nobody wanted and usually they were completely inappropriate...Like the time my manager gave me a heavily-scented candle despite the fact that heavy fragrances gave me severe asthma attacks. Gee, thanks for THAT one!

    Oh, and this year, some of my mates who are still at the company get 1/2-day off on the 24th December IF they aren't already taking it off (this was announced just this past week) AND their immediate supervisor says they can AND there is no business need for them to be there (i.e. they aren't shift workers). They cannot take any other 1/2 day off with the possible exception of 31 December. So, we figure about 2 or 3 people out of 100,000+ in the company will be able to take the 1/2-day off.

    Another thing they love to do rather than give money, is to give gift certificates that are about to expire and/or to restaurants that are not in the area, or promotional t-shirts, etc. that they couldn't get rid of any other way (at least the t-shirts are of SOME use, though!).

    We had to be there for Y2K, and they gave us meal vouchers for pizza they had brought in to the cafeteria. Only problem was that we weren't allowed to leave our desks long enough to get down there and back, in case there was a crisis.

    Oh well, I don't work there anymore...I feel more sorry for my mates who are left behind though. Some of them are expected to provide 24x7x365 coverage with only 2 people even though they have more than enough work to keep 6 people busy.

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    -- Some people live life in the fast lane. I live life in oncoming traffic.
  542. this christmas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    my company made me redundant.

    Which made a nice change from the usual bonuses and parties.

  543. Digital Camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm posting this anonymously just because.
    I work for Comverse (the people who make the phone taping s/w for US, UK and Israel Governments). They gave us some little USB digital Cameras, 1024 x 768 resolution, no zoom. Novelty wore off after we'd gone round the office totty shooting, besides we sell stuff to mobile networks too, so we all have MMS capable phones!

  544. CEO dolls by CYB3R73 · · Score: 1

    Why don't you all just tear off the dolls heads and mail them to your CEO (via compagny mail). You could even mail them to his home address if you can get a hold of it. See how that will ruin his X-mas.

  545. Sounds like.. by jt007 · · Score: 1

    ...A /. equivilent of the Monty Python four Yorkshiremen shetch.
    • First Geek: Well, I remember when all we got for Christmas were an iPod and a Christmas bonus.
    • Second Geek: You were lucky, all we got were a Christmas lunch and a bonus 50% kess than the one we got the year before.
    • Third Geek: If you were lucky!
    • Second Geek: Aye!
    • Third Geek: We used to have a Christmas dinner which we had to pay for eating, and tasted shit, then we used to pay our boss a Christmas bonus.
    • Fourth Geek: Aye, them were the days.
    • First Geek: And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you.
    • All: They won't!

    And so forth...
    --
    I never apologise, I'm sorry but that's just the way I am - Homer
  546. thirtheenth month by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in Belgium most people get a "thirteenth mont" Usually at the end of december you get your salary paid twice. But our governement taxes the hell out of it. Only a rough 40 percent remains.
    So we also have to bend over; only it's for politicans. That's worse, no ?

  547. Lucky or not..... by blankmange · · Score: 2
    You could work for the government... as an employee of the Fed, I do not get a bonus or gift for the holidays, and I also get to work the 24th and the 26th.

    but then I also don't have to worry too much about being laid off, bought out, investigated by the government, stock market going to hell.... I have always found the idea of a Christmas bonus kind of silly -- to expect the company you work give you something for Christmas.. it's a job for crying out loud..

    --
    ...we are from the government - we are here to help...
  548. Bonus or something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I get a 10% off of one item coupon!!

  549. This sums it up: by kashmirzoso · · Score: 1

    "And I want to look him straight in the eye and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-assed, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spineless, worm-headed sack of monkey shit he is! Hallelujah! Holy shit! Where's the Tylenol(TM)?!?"

  550. No rights? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What? - don't you have a right for christmas bonus? We get every summer and christmas a double loan. So, we get 14 months pay per year. How is that in the USA? Do you get 14 months pay and an extra x-mas bonus or do you get 12 months wage?

    greets from EU

  551. You work at Microsoft, Don't you? by Mulletproof · · Score: 2

    Did your bobblehead come with a baseball card? On a side note, that's pretty freakin' vain of somebody. The last MS bobblehead I got, I torched, maimed and otherwise sculpted into an abusive figure of pain and suffering. Leave THAT message in your bosses parking spot.

    --
    You need a FREE iPod Nano
  552. Last year, this year by ptomblin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Last year my Christmas bonus was $11,000. I paid off my credit cards and bought a TiBook.

    This year, I'm a lowly contractor and if I'm lucky they'll renew my contract in January.

    Last year I was working for the spawn of Satan, and had been actively looking for something, anything to get me out of that hell hole for months.

    This year, I'm doing interesting work in a less stressful and less fucked-up environment.

    You can keep the $11,000.

    --
    The next Cmdr Taco duplicate will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and see it early!
    1. Re:Last year, this year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'll be crying a different tune if they don't renew in january. You'll be licking Satan's feet in a microsecond. Bravado is for fools.

  553. grumble by JeremyALogan · · Score: 0

    Last Year: Layed
    This Year: Layed Off
    Next Year: Copy of Windows XP???

  554. Bobblehead?? We used to DREAM about bobbleheads! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I was an employee, 4000 of us used to work in one shoebox in the middle of the road. We used to get up, eat a handful of FREEZING COLD grits, then get to work half an hour before we left the previous day. We worked 90 hours a day, and had to pay the company for the privelege. Then at christmas, our CEO would slice us in two with a breadknife. IF WE WERE LUCKY!! You people don't know were born!


    Sorry. I know how you feel, but some of the comments people have made were asking for that. Oddly enough, my bonus-cancelling CEO looks exactly like Captain Kirk, so I guess he wouldn't even need to get specially made bobbleheads.

  555. a pink slip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    don't bitch about a doll.. me and 70 other coworkers got a pink slip!

    well i guess i got more time to spend with family on holidays.

  556. company stock options by klang · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...some 4 years ago the company found out that it would be a really good idea to scrap the anual grocery basket and replace it with company stock options. That is, each person would recieve one stock and thereby a small part of the company.

    At the time one of theese babies would run you about 550 DKR's on "the street", today it's about 175 DKR .. the gift is still the same though: "one stock option" .. oh, and it's bound for 7 years .. TODAY, 1$ is about 7.5 DKR ..

    Maybe this would be a good idea for the kids? Here you go, your present this year will be a small part of something you can get your hands on, 7 years after you move out of the house! :-) /klang

  557. HONOUR THY STAFF. DO NOT BE GREEDY! by purrpurrpussy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeep - screw christmas bonuses, screw bonuses. I have never been a fan of company wide bonuses. It's stupid - I don't see why John Thicky should get a bonus when I did most of his work. Bonuses are for those that have done good work.

    However, I have noticed a few things that make working life _pleasurable_ and _fun_. Bosses listen up!

    1 - Staff will get VERY resentful if they get no pay rises or very small pay rises but the boss gets 25%. You are all in the same boat bosses and staff alike. Bosses need to realise this and act more like staff (instead of god!)

    2 - Geeks like stuff - DON'T THROW OUT OLD COMPUTERS! Give them to schools if you want but always let your engineers rake of the bones of old hardware and take what they want. They love it and you don't even want it!

    3 - Let your geeks experiment with their code. People like the chance to experiment a little.

    4 - Listen to your geeks BUT GIVE THEM CREDIT. I quit one job after a few months when I discovered that the _entire_ place was based on "company politics". I would say something to my manager (hell I even typed him a report) only to discover that he had basically just changed the name on the report and no-one knew I had anything to do with it. AVOID THIS! If this happens - QUIT. You will be incredibly miserable otherwise!

    5 - Don't pay out bonuses just to make your staff stay. Think before you spend! Perhaps spending all that bonus cash on new equipment or the office environment will cheer you staff up just as much as a coupla hundred quid.

    The best bonus experience I ever had was at Pi Research in Cambridge. I was only 19 (2nd year there) and I had been working on some high resolution print routines. I got it finished and working (thanks to a little help) WELL ahead of time. The next day I went to work and was asked to see the MD. Well... I shit a brick! I reall thought I done or said something wrong! Anyhoo.... The MD asked me about my work, the quality of it, did I imagine there were still bugs etc.... then I got a very nice "thank you" and a "keep up the good work" type thing and a bonus cheque! I can't remember how much and it wasn't huge but the idea was there. They had been watching and decided it was time to place credit where credit was due. A very satisfying sensation I assure you.

    --
    "None of this shit works" -W.Shatner
  558. IN SOVIET RUSSIA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YOU give the BOSS a bonus!

  559. intervention called for by tomlord · · Score: 1

    Either your CEO had absolutely no knowledge and input on this decision -- or your CEO needs serious therapy.

  560. Hallelieugah! by Leggman · · Score: 1

    I got to go to a Christmas party we all were required to kick in to fund (nevermind that I'm athiest) and next week I get a frozen turkey. (better than nothing, though)

    --
    You don't eat crackers in the bed of your future or you get all...scratchy! - The Tick
  561. I work for the Pope by MSUWalt · · Score: 1

    I work at a Catholic hospital, so that whole "vow of poverty" thing doesn't just apply to the clergy.

    I did get a blanket from the nuns for giving blood this year, though. And we'll probably get a certificate for a free turkey again. I don't have a big family locally, so I just get the bird and anonymously give it to somebody less fortunate in my church.

  562. Voodoo bobble-head doll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Show your displeasure -- make the bobble-head doll into a VOODOO bobble-head doll. Place it prominantly on your monitor for all your coworkers to see and admire.

    Also makes a great parting gift, for when you're walked out the door for making veiled threats to the CEO.

    YMMV.

  563. Not a damned thing. by MImeKillEr · · Score: 1

    ..where I work now. When I worked at BMC Software, they gave everyone coupons for a free Honeybaked ham every Thanksgiving and you got a $500 bonus on your Dec 15th paycheck.

    The only thing I've got where I'm at now is my company is closed when the NYSE is closed. That means I get Christmas Eve and Christmas Day off with pay. Big whoopdie-do. Its not like we'd be doing anything if we were at the office anyway...

    *sigh*

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    Cruising the internet on my TI-99/4A @ a whopping 300 baud!
  564. Bonuses schmonuses by wilpig · · Score: 1

    All I know is I work my ass off contracted to 6 Different public school systems by a business of about 10 - 15 people. I was invited over to the boss's/owner's $350k house to eat a $300 piece of tenderloin and we all got about 1/4 the bonus we have the past 4 years. I don't know if this is right or wrong, but there's definately something strange with this math.

  565. At UPS... by Darlantan · · Score: 1

    We got a gift voucher for a turkey, and a little chocolate coin. The card stated that the CEO gave employees a $25 gold coin back in the early days (1920's. Do the math for inflation, not bad eh?) We also get completely slammed on a nightly basis by people's packages, starting the day after Thanksgiving and ending a few days after christmas.
    I personally got a couple special gifts. One was a notification that they wouldn't pay my rent stipend of $100 for next month, and the other was a nice back injury. Yay for me.
    UPS gets several billion in profit, and lots of cheap labor. Send your packaged FedEx, people. If you happen to be sending it 1 day air to Washington or New Jersey, I might be handling it. That's a very bad thing for your package, I assure you...well, unless you mark it with something I recognize.

    The kicker? I don't even like turkey. Man, I need a new job.

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    Fill in your four or five-letter word of wisdom here _ _ _ _ _.
    1. Re:At UPS... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      UPS drivers read slashdot??

    2. Re:At UPS... by amoups · · Score: 2, Interesting

      UPSers* aren't just drones who love cubic objects made from cardboard. We have interests outside of working like dogs for a company that shafts us in the pay department. (Don't get me wrong, the health insurance and tuition reimbursement programs are awesome.) And for the record, the vast majority of the UPS workforce does not wear brown. The waiting list to be a driver is several years long, and in the meantime, the rest of us have to stay cooped up inside the hub with 399 other sweaty guys and a quarter of a million cardboard boxes full of irritations.

      * the corporate term for UPS employees. It's stupid, and I hate it.

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      Society doesn't turn on a dime, but if enough people lean on the steering wheel long enough, it can negotiate a curve.
    3. Re:At UPS... by ArtEnvironment · · Score: 1

      Go to the supermarket, or wherever you're supposed to get this turkey, and tell them you're a vegetarian or something, and ask for a few packages of frozen vegetarian lasagna or something else.

      Or donate the turkey to a shelter, or to a friend's dinner (and make them take you out to dinner later.) ...

  566. Not Self employed... by EricWright · · Score: 2

    Went to website... bought self 120 GB FW HD... happy with gift. Still would like something. No bonus, no raise, no holiday party, yet profits are up. Still, at least I'm finally getting paid somewhat close to market average.

  567. lucky by 3.2.3 · · Score: 1

    this year i was lucky. i got nothing.

    last year i wasn't so lucky. i got a ten percent paycut.

    i'm lucky i have a job. i'm told i may even be working christmas day!

  568. Re:At divine.com last year...it was well deserved by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We use your products (against my advice), and they suck.

    My guess is they let go the competent ones go. And they ended up with the incompetents who programmed the mess that we paid $1M for.

    Ho ho ho. The joke's on both of us.

  569. can't complain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got a weeks worth of pay as a bonus (Dumb smiley here)

  570. Re: You are just wrong. by tomtomtom · · Score: 1

    No, he means shorting the stock at a price where the option is in-the-money; then exercising the call to cover the short.

    In the circumstances (can't exercise the option immediately) it makes sense since he gets the selling price he wants to profit from the option (assuming he CAN short it).

  571. I'm getting a one-off bonus payment on Wednesday by Rogerborg · · Score: 2

    And I don't have to come in to work on Thursday, or in fact ever again! Plus I've been "released from my contract" along with everyone else in my office. Wow!

    Ah, Christmas, when the goose gets fat and the corporations get lean. The best bit is that being made redundant before yule is being presented as a positive thing, because at least we knew before we went into a consumer frenzy. That's a pretty thin silver lining.

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    If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
  572. That's what happens ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's what happens when you work for a fucking jew, stay away from those assholes, or better rip them off!
    It's written in the Torah it's OK to steal from non-jews, so I consider OK to steal them too. Now what do you think ?

  573. Not all companies are evil... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My employer continues to grow profits in this economy, and refuses to 1) cut pay or 2) skimp on the holiday celebrations. I received both my bonus and my profit sharing check, all the usual prizes were given out, and we enjoyed the typical big-name entertainment. Sure, I make a little less on my base salary than a West Coast developer, and telling people you work for a food service company has less nerd appeal. On the other hand, those negligible points aren't worth giving up my dignity/soul.

  574. A boss who cares, vs. one without a clue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My wife makes single-digit-per-hour working for someone with a very high level of involvement with his workers. For Christmas, she got $150, plus breakfast with her co-workers.

    I make a nice salary working for a very small web company. But for Christmas, we're doing a potluck lunch. If this year is like last, I'll get a $50 gift certificate.

    Oh, and my salary is the same this Christmas as last, but my benefits ... cost me more.

  575. I got a temp job by penguin_dance · · Score: 1
    I'm got a temporary administrative (that's secretarial, not IT) job and am grateful because my unemployment benefits are about to run out. (I was doing web development/programming before I got laid off.)

    Look at it this way, at least you can smack the bobble-head boss doll around and come up with all kinds of ways to torture it! ;-)

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  576. Free doll? by sysadmn · · Score: 2

    Personally, I think it's darn nice they gave you something to decorate your urinal^h^h^h^h^h cubicle with.

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  577. In Soviet Russia... by fdisk3hs · · Score: 2, Funny

    In Soviet Russia, CEO gets bobble-head doll of YOU.

    Sorry, the Soviet Russia jokes kill me. I still laugh at the "your mama" stuff...

    LR

  578. Holiday Bonus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I run a small (10) person ISP and we pay xmas bonuses every year. Not only that but the techs and others who put in the long hours get gifts like 32" TVs and DVD burners in addition to cash.
    Depending on how hard someone worked and how long they have been here some guys got over $5k last year. This year we had a sucky year and tons of legal bills ate up most of our profit so bonuses will be MUCH smaller but it never hurts to give $$$ and presents to the people who work with you day in and day out to show them you appreciate their hard work. And dont give out crap like dolls - invest some of your time to find out what the person really likes and go out of your way to get it for them - that really shows you appreciate them! ;)

  579. voodoo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey at least they gave you a free voodoo doll of your object of anger

  580. Cool toys by R34LiSM · · Score: 1

    Not directly from my company, but from one I used to work with most days as part of my previous position; a rather nifty Cross ION Pen. Arrived in the post this morning, and actually worked straight out of the box (i.e. no endless scribbling across nine pads of A4 before the ink decides to flow). Also has a smart keyring attachment that clips over the nib, so it's now taken pride of place on my house keys (finally replacing my very old - and quite knackered - micro Swiss Army knife).

  581. Dinner, open bar, and a room by slow_flight · · Score: 2

    We got a dinner with open bar at Smith & Wollensky's, and everyone got a room at the Hilton. Some companies are still doing ok, and more importantly, willing to share the wealth with their employees.

    --

    Karma: Professionally Doomed (mostly affected by inability to keep opinions to self)
  582. ham-n-fruit by Craig3010 · · Score: 1

    Where I used to work, for 6 years, we got a bony, road-kill ham. Here we get a fruit basket. Nice change, but how many ways are there to make grapefruit palatable?

  583. Don't complain, you got a job. by Vinnie_333 · · Score: 1

    So, the company bought everyone dinner and you're complaining about it? Throw the freakin' bobble head doll away it you want.

    --

    "We shall party like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean." - HedonismBot
  584. Sniff, sniff by filmcritic · · Score: 1

    Oh I feel so bad for you, you whiny crybaby little fucking brat. Boo hoo, all I get is this stupid thing....AND A FUCKING PAYCHECK EVERY WEEK. If you're even remotely involved in a so-called geek profession, you don't even work 10 hours out of the week and get paid for the whole deal. Don't come here and get the floor all wet with your sobbing, be thankful you even have a job where you can post to this piss poor excuse for a website several times a day you ignorant, know nothing, whining, crybaby, RMS-asshole-buddy jerkoff.

    1. Re:Sniff, sniff by Mr+Muppet · · Score: 0

      Some of us actually work hard (I got runner-up in the Employee of the Year compy in our company because of all the hard - yes, HARD - work). By the sounds of it you don't need to work as you've obviously got soooo much money you get to laugh at us poor workers who need bonuses to do stuff like save up for important things (like my upcoming wedding).

      Or are you just pi$$ed that you can't read Slashdot at work because your IT dept blocked it?

    2. Re:Sniff, sniff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be talking about MCSE's or something. I am a programmer who busts his freaking ass 8 hours a day + nights and weekends when 8 hours just doesn't cut it. I usually work just over 60 hours a week. Long after the rest of the stiffs have gone home, we are busting our asses on projects.

      I see people in fartketing taking 3 hour lunches. Don't tell me some geeks don't work. You obviously have some fat to cut where you work. I would start ratting those no good aholes out

  585. Re:At divine.com last year...it was well deserved by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 2

    Wow.

    I feel bad for you. I don't even know what our products did. I just know they paid me to browse the web all day, and burn my MP3s at work. I think I was also the official pizza orderer for a while.

    - A.P.

    --
    "Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
  586. Crappy gifts by Giggles+Of+Doom · · Score: 1

    I got a pair of 15 min phone cards. These are of great use to me as I have a cell phone with plenty of anytime min and unlimited nights/ weekends and free long distance. I suppose I could wrap them and give them to family members, but only 15 min?? If they got them for $0.05/min, and that is probably on the high side, then they spent a whole buck and a half on me. Damn, I feel important now.

    --
    "A coward dies a thousand deaths, the brave but one."
  587. Gift albums by cecil36 · · Score: 2

    I make some extra money on the side selling gift albums to various businesses. One customer I have is the administrator of a nursing home, and she bought $10,000 of gift albums from me to give to her 200+employees (many of them nurses). The order itself was a nice Christmas gift, because the commission paid for my airline ticket to go visit my girlfriend for the New Year, and left plenty to spend on her.

  588. Company xmas party gave me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    public intox and 12 hours in jail.

  589. I'm not hurt... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 5, Funny

    > What did you get from your Company for Christmas?

    Nothing. But it's OK; I didn't get them anything either.

    Chris Mattern

  590. got less, but hey. by bobaferret · · Score: 1

    Our bonuses got cut in half(ish), but I also got a nice set of penguin beer steins. Atleast I know they still care. :)

  591. I get to keep my job! by jbarr · · Score: 2

    Yes, I could expect more, but I am greatful that I am employed!

    --
    My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
  592. Christmas "BONUS"? More like "BONER" by Mandy74 · · Score: 1

    I can summarize this by saying that if gratitude was in the shape of a hotdog, my ass would be sore. Even if I could opt for a cash equivalent in lieu of the gift I received from my employer, I'd still come out on the shit-end of the deal. What the hell, guys. Should we expect it to be any different than any of the other 364 days in the year?? We're just being bent over yet another day, so grab your ankles and smile. In the words of Mr.Clark W. Griswold: "...I'd like my boss, *insert your bosses name* right here tonight. I want him brought from his happy holiday slumber over there on Melody Lane with all the other rich people, and I want him brought right here, with a big ribbon on his head I wanna look him straight in the eye, and I wanna tell him what a cheap, lying, no good rotten 4-flushing low-life snake-licking dirt-eating inbred overstuffed ignorant blood-sucking dog-kissing brainless dickless hopeless fat-assed bug-eyed stiff-legged spider-lipped worm-headed sack of monkey shit he is! Halleluiah, holy shit! Where's the tylenol??"

  593. Christmas party on ice.. in January :( by helraiz · · Score: 1

    New York City. Chelsea Peers. Ice skating was to become our company's christmas party event. Ok, I guess that's better then no party at all, but hold on a second, something went wrong. Am I surprised? Of course not, but what did surprise me that the "Christmas on ice" was moved to January. Well, that's the latest news so far, it might be canceled all together. And as for bonuses, `keeping your job and no pay cuts` is our bonus this year.

  594. Enlightened company by syphax · · Score: 1

    The gods will probably smite me for bragging, but my company gave me a bonus that's 1/3 of my salary (the bonus is based, equal parts, on personal performance and company profitability), plus some pens engraved with my initials.

    It's nice to work for a company that rewards its employees for their hard work. I consider myself phreakin' lucky.

    Needless to say, it's a private company.

    --
    Simple Unexpected Concrete Credible Emotional Stories
  595. You CHOOSE to be un-empolyed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To all the whiners who are bitching about
    not making enough money or not having a
    job.

    Quit being a victim.

    If you are not as good as you think you are,
    perhaps you need to update your skills. Were
    you some slackass with an associates degree who
    went and got "certified" during the boom? It's
    over buddy, and you'll be lucky to find a job
    at all given your skill set.

    Update your skills, hunt hard, and move if you
    have to. "But there are no jobs where I live" -
    Then you are choosing your location at the expense
    of a job. Set your priorities and then make
    something happen.

    And to those of you who can't buy toilet paper
    because you have to pay for day-care -

    Re-evaluate your priorities - How about you stay
    home with the kid and send your wife to work, and
    then don't buy the new cars that you think you
    "have to have" - Everyone I know who is in a
    tight spot finance wise chose to put themself
    there... New car, house bigger than they need, etc.

  596. Sense at last by Duds · · Score: 1

    Amen. The world is hardly underpopulated.

    A child these days is a luxury not unlike the big car, the house or those 20 lattes. Accept it.

    You already have it cushy with child benefits etc. I don't seem to see any government handing me innurmerable amounts each week in "xbox benefits".

  597. That's not true . . . by JoseMonkey · · Score: 1
    I just imagine that the majority of music on portable mp3 playing devices are probably illegal
    I don't have any statistics on this, but my gut tells me that your sweeping generalization is a seriously unfair and inaccurate assessment. I own an Nomad Jukebox, and every track on it (nearly 6 GB) was personally ripped by me, using CDs I own.

    To assume that piracy is the only good use for MP3 players is ridiculous. That's the sort of FUD that makes people think the position held by these digital rights zealots is actually tenable.

    <flamebait>
    I suppose you also think that the majority of all recordable media contains pirated music / software / movies?
    </flamebait>

    1. Re:That's not true . . . by Flamesplash · · Score: 2

      I agree with you. I myself only listen to mp3's of songs I own the albums too. I don't think the only good use for mp3 players is to pirate music, it is just my feeling that a lot of people do use pirated music on them. I would love to be wrong, it's just the feeling I have.

      The local radio station around here often makes mention of going onto kazaa and getting the latest track from so and so. I think a lot of people don't realize that what they are doing is piracy, these people being the non techo-geeks found on /. . This is also a position taken by anti-piracy groups within large companies. They try to put our materials letting people know that copying and giving to others is illegal etc...

      --
      "Not knowing when the dawn will come, I open every door." - Emily Dickinson
  598. Christmas party? eh? by mrpooh · · Score: 1

    Our company doesn't have a christmas party, if this year is like last year, we'll have a pot luck lunch (where we only get 30 minutes off for lunch).. and maybe 3 or 4 of us will go out for supper somewhere... other than that, I rely on my friend's company parties for my Christmas enjoyment!

  599. Well, it's not Christmas, but... by Moose4 · · Score: 1

    ...last year, for "employee appreciation week", we received a "special gift" from executive management. The gift consisted of:

    - A plastic company-logoed beer cup. Not a stadium cup, but one of those disposable ones.

    - A bookmark with the words to "God Bless America" printed on it.

    - One (1) bag of Act II microwave vending machine popcorn, still in the plastic wrapper.

    --
    "Settle down, Beavis. We've got an experiment to do."
  600. 4 words. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bobble Head Doll Porn.

    Distribute widely. Your CEO will be impressed.

  601. Isn't that the point... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...of this topic? To whine and bitch?

  602. 10% by duggy_92127 · · Score: 1

    I received 10% of my annual salary, split over two paychecks in December.

    Please don't kill me.

    Doug

  603. Clock/CD/Radio w/ alarm (but no headphone jack) by argel · · Score: 2

    Last year a cooler (with two wheels and a pull handle). Year before that was an emergency road kit (reflectors, a pneumatic pump, etc.). Year before that was a travel luggage set (some of it was good, some okay). All with our company logo on them, sometimes with it modled into the plastic (e.g. the cooler).

    --

    -- Argel
  604. Universitys are nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We dont get a bonus, but we do get 2 weeks of paid vacation, and dont really do any real work from thanksgiving break till classes start again in late january.

  605. Quit crying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had a nice dinner with my girlfriend and got a piece off ass afterwards. You should quit crying and be happy to have a job. Companies are not required to give you a Christmas bonus. Our bonuses are base on merit, so you have to earn them by going above and beyond.

  606. 8.8 % by Freshie · · Score: 1

    I got 4.5% of my income this year.
    I'm not complaining...
    We're a large chartered bank.
    Last year and the year before were 6% and 7.5% respectively.
    I'm happy to get anything at all.

    --
    'I don't want more choices. I just want better things.' - Edina Monsoon
  607. IN SOVIET RUSSIAN CHRISTMAS PARTIES ... by Gluteus+Minimus · · Score: 1

    ... the Xerox gets drunk and sits on YOU.

    --
    My sig's name is Sigmund, but you may call it "Siggy."
  608. Re:Need A New Trolling Motor? by Minn_Kota_Marine · · Score: 1

    Come on... everyone knows that Minn Kota makes the best trolling motors. You can get all kinds of helpful info on their site.

    Their company is synonymous with "trolling motor", and I challenge you to find a company that makes better trolling motors.

  609. Short selling not always allowed by GlobalEcho · · Score: 2

    The previous reply is wrong. The poster is correct -- a short sale will effectively "lock in" the profits that you will realize on exercising your options. This is true for upside as well as downside risk, BTW, as you also forego potential profits should the stock go up further in value.

    It's worth noting that there are quite a number of circumstances in which a short sale by an employee is not permitted (e.g. if you are an "officer" of the company). Check before doing this!

  610. Salaried people do *not* work overtime. by _14k4 · · Score: 1

    Salaried people do -not- work overtime, as salaried people have no definition of "overtime". They are salaried for a reason.

    Hourly people, otoh, work overtime. Just a little clarity as I often hear salaried so-and-so complaining about all the OT he works. You never recieve OT pay in your paycheck, therefore you are no an employee capable of working "overtime", and "I worked XXX hundred hours of OT" should not be used as an argument. The thought being, if you are salaried, you should be compensated more week-to-week based on 40/32/whatever hours, versus somebody who works by the hour and is capable of working an 80 hour week and getting paid for 100 hours... and so on.

  611. Re:At divine.com last year...it was well deserved by edwazere · · Score: 1

    Products? You had Products?

    Wow, that must put you in the top 1% of all the dotcoms then!

    --
    -- You ain't seen me, right?
  612. Could be worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Last year I was working for a rather large ISP and was let go and rehired 4 times for my chrismas bonus. A semi-stable job is worth more than any "bonus"...just be happy you are employed . As far as the bobble head doll it was distasteful but remember for the moment you are employed.

    "Job security is a myth, especialy in the IT community"

  613. I've received a Bobble-head by OS390 · · Score: 1

    I received a bobble-head of our chief investment strategist a year back. I don't have a picture but I do have a link to the guy and the commentary of Dr. Bob Froehlich. Maybe it's the new trend in corporate ego.

  614. What I got by Jahf · · Score: 1
    So... What did you get from your Company for Christmas?


    I got 5 days paid holiday vacation (7 if you count Xmas and New Years).

    Since I work from remote, I don't get to go to any of the parties ... but honestly ... so what? If you don't want to pay parking, you should check to see if they're comp'ing it or just don't go.

    Since I don't celebrate Xmas, it seems like a decent enough deal to me. A bonus would be nice, but if the company isn't paying any of our incentive bonuses (or at least not much of them) due to the economy, I'm not expecting it. I've 10x the amount in incentive bonuses than I would ever expect in my greediest holiday bonus dreams.

    My wife's company had an Xmas party where they paid for 1 free drink, had lots of great munchies and gave us all a chance to view the Denver aquarium ("Ocean View") without a bunch of other people around. It was nice, sure, but given a choice of that or having the week off (which she doesn't get, making travel for the season unlikely), I'll -definitely- take the bonus I got.

    --
    It is more productive to voice thoughtful opinions (reply) than to judge (moderate) others.
  615. Eeeee luxury, you think you had it bad ... by dapprman · · Score: 1

    For x-mas my company granted me the exclusion from the 10%.

    The 10% of the work force being laid off that is.

  616. Uncle Sam wants to bone us???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    heh

  617. Insurance sucks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trust me...never work IT at an insurance company. Instead of being the savior of most of their asses, you're just the guy who makes the programs work when the user does something retarded. Very little appreciation. But back to the bonuses. Two years ago, when I first started, everyone got a $100 bill from the VP. Except me...since I hadn't been working there for 6 months yet, I only got $50. Understandable, but still a little hard to swollow after seeing everyone else with $100s. Last year..."due to the unfortunate events of Sept. 11, yada yada yada." Not to take anything away from that day, but still a lame excuse. They didn't even bother telling us until Dec. 24. Merry Freakin Christmas. This year, so far all we've gotten is free movie passes. I really don't expect much else, but it's really starting to piss off the people how have been here for a while.

  618. last year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $20. Yes, an envelope with a $20 bill in it.

    This year, I'm not expecting a bonus. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised (but "pleasant" would not be another $20 bill).

  619. Re:Whining is soorry if your assumptions suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A bonus is a special reward -- an employee did something really exceptional and their employer wanted to show their appreciation.

    Yeah, right. The last company I worked for that had institutionalized a bonus negotiated salary AND BONUS. Talk about trickle down economics, since the managers determined who got what section by section.

    A bonus is a special reward -- an employee did something really exceptional and their employer wanted to show their appreciation

    Oh suck me. Are you really so blind that you still believe a company, ANY company, has anything in mind except squeezing your soul into powder? Depending on the circumstances a bonus can and should be expected. I USED to be a fucking conservative bastard until I realized how much the mutiplier of CEO and exec salaries went up (what is it now, 450 times what an employee makes?). And when something goes wrong it turns out they actually have no real control or influence on what happens at the company (i.e., Enron, Worldcom, aDelphia). Now I am pissed - fsck 'em I want my bonus.

  620. Screwing non-revenue generators by OmniGeek · · Score: 2

    Actually, our Congresscritters HAVE, in a very limited sense, figured this out: they screw EVERYONE except their personal revenue generators (read: their major campaign contributors). Of course, most of us would prefer their self-interest to be a bit more enlightened and their definition of "self" here to include the people they allegedly serve, but that's the trouble with our political system at present...

    --

    "My strength is as the strength of ten men, for I am wired to the eyeballs on espresso."
  621. I got... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So... What did you get from your Company for Christmas?
    Fired.

  622. Christmas Cheer by krek · · Score: 1

    We recieved.. uh.. well... we were permitted to use company premises to hold a pot-luck dinner, along with two days that we were told not to come to work but are not being paid for!!! Joy!

  623. my small company by Kripes · · Score: 1

    My company has 25 employees, and we just got a cash injection of a few mil. Still, no bonus. not even $100. Would it kill them to free up $2500 just to make everyone really really happy?

  624. Talk about a bonus... by SamTheButcher · · Score: 1
    I was once speaking with a member of the generation prior to mine, and she told me that her husband, who was an investment banker, got a Christmas bonus. The bonus was his salary.

    Okay, let me make that more clear. The bonus was the equivalent of his salary, ON TOP OF HIS SALARY.

    It totally floored me. I mean, I don't make all that much, but a bonus of my salary would be awesome. And this guy was making BIG dollars. Amazing.

  625. Make it a cat toy by hohosforbreakfast · · Score: 1

    Give it to your cat/other pet to play with (under supervision, of course). At least, I'd be tempted to do that, except for the small parts that may be involved.

    Re-paint it and use it as a hamster-cage decoration.

    --
    Tony Jeffries
  626. Re:Christmas Bonus? What's That? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Same here. We've had modest department gatherings, but pay for it ourselfs.

  627. nothing... by Pflipp · · Score: 1

    My company wanted to do a christmast gift box to all six of our president-employees, but then we realized we had no income whatsoever yet. We decided just to wish each other a merry christmas instead.

    --
    "We can confirm that Debian does *not* ship the version with the trojan horse. Our version predates it." [CA-2002-28]
  628. The boss said he was going to get me a new comp. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .... but I've still yet to see it.

    The thing is, it wouldn't cost him anything, as the company I'm working in, sells computers.

    Anyway, I just joined the communist-party here in Norway. I want all companies to cease to exist.
    Working for the people, for a common goal, is a zillion times better than working for your boss, in order to increase his profits.

  629. us spending by ProfBooty · · Score: 2

    http://w3.access.gpo.gov/usbudget/fy2001/guide02.h tml

    Checkout the piechart towards the bottom. In the 2001 federal budget, the US spent 19% on health care, 23% on social security, 6% on various entitlements (Vetern's benefits etc) 11% on interest and only 16% on defense.

    Granted that 23% for social security can't be used for other means, but the US spends far more on benefits than they do on the military.

    Additonally, 342 billion was spent on health care versus 279billion on the military in 2001.

    here are some other siteshttp://www.federalbudget.com/
    http://www.kow aldesign.com/budget/
    http://www.infoplease.com/ip a/A0873746.html

    or you can read the federal budget at www.cbo.gov

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    Bring back the old version of slashdot.
  630. What I'm getting this year by chrysrobyn · · Score: 2

    Same thing I got last year. As much office supplies as I can carry out of the building without getting caught by an employee who wants to split it with me in exchange for silence.

  631. So many horror stories deserves a positive one... by Jaycatt · · Score: 1
    Guess I'll throw my story in here too, just to keep things slightly positive. I work at an electric/water utility. Our bonus is in two parts. We get a % of our total net income if we rank as the cheapest electric/water provider. We don't always get the bonus, but you better believe that we take great pains to be the lowest provider so that we get it.

    The second part is department specific. At the end of each year we put together a list of "above and beyond" projects that we would like to do but aren't part of the regular job description. These are weighted and scored and if we get over a certain score we get the other half of our bonus.

    We also get a company "banquet" with a no-host bar, buffet style, so that's a nice perk too.

    Well, there's also a coupon for a box of chocolate thrown into that.

    Of course, we did have a few layoffs recently, mostly in our conservation area (grr, that's important dammit) but I believe even they get percentages of the bonus.

    --
    "Shared pain is lessened; shared joy is increased. Thus we refute entropy" - Spider Robinson
  632. Plastic dolls..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you guys think that the CEO really wants hundreds (thousands?) of plastic copies of himself distributed under the employees?

    How about: VP: "Shall we get a christmas gift for the employees?" CEO: "Yeah, you think of something". Then imagine the embarrisment on the face of the CEO when he finds out that all employees will have a plastic copy of himself.

    REW.

  633. Re:At divine.com last year...it was well deserved by monkeydo · · Score: 1

    And you were caught off guard by the layoffs?

    --
    Si vis pacem, para bellum
    The only thing more annoying than a Libertarian is an (un|mis)informed Libertarian
  634. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  635. Musing on decision making by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

    Sure, it's not so much this particular case or you, but the whole trend of treating people who have purchasing power specially came from somewhere -- it's because it's cheaper to bias the person with purchasing power to buy a product (we get to keep having the salmon lunches?) than to cut the prices on the products.

    I mean, they do stuff like this for a reason -- it's profitable for them.

    The worst cases of monentary allocation come in those few cases when a company can disalign an employee's interests from those strict interests of the company. One of these ways is by pampering the person making buying decisions.

    Another way -- take the "no one ever got fired for buying Microsoft" line. (Obviously, this applies to lots more instances than MS, but this one hits close to home for me) If there's a cheaper, better alternative out there, it might be a good idea for the company to look into. It might be the best thing out there. But the manager's interests have become disaligned from those of the company, because he could potentially be on the chopping block if something goes wrong *and* he's doing something from the rest of the pack. If some crucial vendor two years later says "we don't support Mac OS" or Linux, or HPUX or whatever, he's going to be the scapegoat. OTOH, if he just does what everyone else is doing, regardless of whether it's what's best for his company, he's doing a much better job of maintaining his own job security.

    I believe besides perks and job security issues are the biggest ways vendors can go after people with purchasing authority, but there are probably others.

    Now, you may not have been influenced, but there are definitely people who *are* being influenced by this sort of thing. And that's what I hate. The whole concept of wining and dining a business partner is a small-scale form of this, but it's as accepted a form of bribery in business as "campaign contributions" are in politics.

    Whenever people are making sub-optimal decisions locally on a massive scale, society as a whole suffers. I pay more for things.

  636. Actually... by TheAwfulTruth · · Score: 2

    ALL bonuses are bad news, for exactly the same reason. It is popular to tie company performance with bonuses, but in bad times like these the employees are called on to do even more to help the company, then when the product doesn't sell as well as hoped, instead of being rewarded for their hard work, they get a lump of coal. "Sorry, no bonus after all!"

    Another bad one. "Employee of the week/month/year" awards and bonuses. You give one guy a prize and you guarantee that you piss off everyone else. Next time no one tries because they know they'll just lose whether they work hard or not.

    The best way to avoid smashing someone's expectations is not not give them phoney expectations to begin with. Pay a good salary, have a good work environment, good non-"bonus" benefits and you'll have happy loyal employees.

    --
    Contrary to popular belief, coding is not all free blow-jobs and beer. Those things cost MONEY!
  637. Nww I can tell time... by page1of9 · · Score: 1

    We got these funky little desk clocks with the company logo, you know, the kind you can buy at the $1 store. I guess now I can manage my time better. Or better yet, know when to go to lunch or that I have been working for 15 hours. Oh wait, this was probably not the right gift to give us. We might actually pay attention to time and not spend so much of it at the office ;)

  638. Food by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A thanksgiving turkey. Yeah, it's not cash--but it fed the family for a week!

  639. Top-of-the-ladder gags are often ego, not humor by wessman · · Score: 1

    A bobble-head of your $65-million boss? Are you serious? I HAVE heard it all now; I can rest assured! It is pathetic how, even in the current economy, that we pay our execs more money than they deserve or know what to do with, but we are unwilling to give employees minimal raises and at least a hundred buck bonus for the Holidays (and as end-of-the-year recognition). I went to my wife's holiday party this past Friday and it is amazing that my scotch-and-whiskey breathe didn't remark (out loud) the stupidity and thougthlessness of her bosses. The business is comprised of my wife doing all the office work, her boss running the show, one web guy and a slew of investors who bring in vendors thru connections. I had joked to my wife before the party that she would get the "1st annual employee of the year" award, as she is the first and only regular employee there. Instead, at the party, neither boss who gave a toast even gave a word or glance to my wife's hard work. And my wife admitted to me the following day that she was upset about it. Add to this that all the "investors" got thousands-dollars bonuses and she didn't get a penny extra, even when her boss knows that my wife and I are having more trouble than ever catching up on the bills. What an ass! Great, now I'm more fired up after typing this!!! I won't even get into her boss' pathetic business plan (which he was TRYING to impress me with) and the fact that he called the webguy their CTO when even I could program circles around his lazy ass (that I actually did blurt out a comment about ... dope!!!). EEERRRRRR!!!!

  640. A Big Fat Zero. by Webmoth · · Score: 2

    Well, my boss just went out and bought himself a house. No mansion by any means, just an ordinary place in a quiet neighborhood. Yup, I've seen it.

    Since ours is a small company (I'm the only full-time employee), I'm really not expecting much of a Christmas bonus this year.

    Ah, well, it's worth it, knowing his kids won't be playing next to a busy highway anymore. That's had me worried.

    I think he has no clue what a bobble-head doll is, thanks be to God!

    --
    Give me my freedom, and I'll take care of my own security, thank you.
  641. My Xmas Bonus... by jasno · · Score: 2

    ...was a layoff notice.

    At least the severance was nice.

    So, anyone looking for an embedded linux/vxworks guy in San Diego?

    --

    http://www.masturbateforpeace.com/
  642. Counter-example by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2

    I know it's not cool what your company's doing, but here's a counter-example - from a 'small American business', the very (supposed) backbone of the American people! (*cough*politicalbullshit*cough*)

    I know someone that runs a company. Not only does he own it, but he's also the manager, project scheduler, whatever - you name it. If it has to do with organizational work, it's his responsibility. He has a handful of employees - it tends to vary seasonally due to the availability of work (damned economy). Just the same, the people he employs would be either out of work, or working somewhere paying them significantly less. I know this to be the case, because most of these employees are sufficiently incompetent.

    Now, mind, they're not that different than most people, albiet some are fairly poor at their job - they just don't put any effort into their work, and basically piss about. Being as it's a small company, they're expected to pull their weight: if they're hired to do X job function, they damned well perform that job function - at least to the extend where they're an asset, not a liability.

    But that isn't the case in this situation. They don't put any effort into the job. My friend can't fire them, because he needs them on his staff, and he'd never be able to get someone to replace them out here, and the employees knows this. Thus, most of them slack off and basically see it as job security, despite the hellish economy here. (NO matter how bad it is in your part of the country, I promise you, it's worse here.)

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    ~/ssh slashdot.org ssh: connect to host slashdot.org port 22: too many beers
  643. wrapped in gold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A step up from last year. In addition to the Hersheys, this email:

    Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:13 AM
    Subject: Happy Holidays

    > Team,
    >
    > On your chair, you will find a bag of holiday chocalates. It is a small
    > token of appreciation from your management team for your efforts.
    >
    > Have a happy holiday season,
    >
    > -XXXXXX
    >
    > --
    > XXXXXX, Sr. Manager

  644. bobble head... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take Heart!! You may have gotten a crappy bonus bobble head, but it worked out well for me... My new favorite hobby, well, obsession, is Office Politics...interactive pseudo office game where we all make alliances and backstab each other to get ahead to win BEER. And today's meeting topic...YOUR BOBBLE HEAD! check it out http://www.office-politics.com

  645. Re:At divine.com last year...it was well deserved by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 2

    Not at all. And I had a better-paying job in 2 weeks. My 5 weeks' severance pay hadn't even run out.

    - A.P.

    --
    "Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
  646. company christmas gifts by brieirish · · Score: 1

    hey michael you want to trade your bobble head boss doll for my bottle of martinelli sparkling cider? with the 99 cent store 2 for $1.00 sticker still on it??? yes, my CEO got a 10 million dollar ONE year signing bonus oh yeah ain't it great????

  647. Money and dinner to follow by phavens · · Score: 0
    My boss was nice to me, mind you small company (7 employees) and if I screw up we all hurt. So even though we officially didn't make goal we got a performance bonus and a christmas bonus.

    We were supposed to have a dinner, but it's been flooding here in the Bay Area so a couple of us wouldn't of been able to make it.
    Truthfully I think it was having his wife call and sy it took half an hour to go one exit on 680. :-)>
    So dinner got rescheduled for after the first... (YEAH RIGHT)

    Gotta love working for small companies... at times.

    --
    Patrick Havens (Mr. 573333 to you.) Graphic Artist / Coder / Father / Journeler
  648. Yes.. thank you. by mindstrm · · Score: 2

    That's exactly what I meant. I'm not talking about playing the market at all.

    Furthermore, exercising an option is not, of course, insider trading.. it's not trading. You are free to exercise whenever you want (as permitted by your grant)

    But when 99% of people talk about exercising options, they mean exercising them and selling the resulting stock.. and selling stock based on insider information is insider trading.

  649. Clarification. by mindstrm · · Score: 2

    First, I'm not talking about shorting a stock in order to profit from a drop in value. I'm talking about shorting a stock and then covering the short immediately by exercising options.
    This locks in the market value you will be taxed on at the time YOU want to do the trade, and you don't ahve to wait for your options to clear.

    If you are claiming to have some kind of special knowledge about options due to your job, you should know this.

    Your other alternative is to start to exercise, perhaps wait several days for the company to get it's shit together, then sell. Furthermore, the time between your receiving the shares and the time you sell them is a risk if the value drops, as you will still be taxed on the market value when you exercised.

    Secondly, exercising options has nothign to do with insider trading.. but SELLING the resulting shares absolutely does...

    Thirdly, even if regulations don't allow you to short stock, you can probably do so to exercise options, as long as the public sees this. There are methods for doing so. This way, panic is avoided, as everyone can see you are really exercising options.

    Thirdly, I'm speaking for Canadian tax law, which varies slightly. You are saying there are many types of stock options, some which have exemptions.
    Obviously anyone who has stock options should get professional advice from brokers AND tax people. Anyone who doesn't is asking for it.

    Before you insinuate I should read up on short selling, perhaps you should read posts a little harder before you start slamming.

  650. Insightful? Yeah,sure. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    Dear CEO, who is going to buy your indispensable products once you and your ilk achieve that holly Grial of full automatization without any employees?

    In case you are serious (and being an AC I doubt it) your mentallity shows what is wrong with modern entrepreneurs: they understand shit about their social role and rsponsibilities. And we allow people like you to buy our politicians.

    Scary, enjoy the ride, I assure you it will not last forever.

    --
    IANAL but write like a drunk one.
  651. Don't be silly. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    To sell something does not mean that you are making a profit (did not you learn something during the last couple of years?).

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    IANAL but write like a drunk one.