Dangerous subversive thinking these days it seems:
Those who would trade in their freedom for their protection deserve neither. Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security.
To be fair, yes this is a hobby OS, but to say that with disdain diminishes the value of a hobby.
Nice point. Amateur means "one who loves" (literally), it should never be disparaging to be called an amateur. Hobbyists are "amateurs" by definition. All the great Renaissance thinkers were amateurs across a wide range of fields, but often to great depth. Hence we owe much of modern thinking to amateurs.
We regularly demonize many classes of people and demote to non-human. Pedophiles. terrorists, monsters-du-jour, you name it. Before those is was gays, blacks, various ethnicities, you name it. Fashions come, fashions go.
It's kind of like having someone come in and reorganize your music based on their own crazy thought process.
At least you can turn it off... for now.
But this is endemic of a larger problem using Google products, they're tinkering with the things that aren't broken and shutting down projects that people use.
There's something not quite right with that attitude.
You got it. It's designer-driven change for change's sake. The same problem as Gnome with Gnome3 and the same problem that MS have with Windows 8. Changes that nobody wants or needs - except bored designers.
That's right, the 2ic of the Linux kernel, Andrew Morton, flatly refuses to work with patches and still sends his revisions to Mr Torvalds in massive tarballs, a cause of merciless jibes from the latter. Linus laughs it off and puts it down to Mr Morton's eccentricities (but he also puts up with it).
Does this anachronistic obstinacy make Andrew Morton a "bad" programmer?
Windows 8 already has one, it's just that nobody seems to know about it. All you do is move the desktop card to the top left hand side of Metro. Whichever card is in that position will be launched after booting.
And to follow up: then install the free Classic Shell [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Shell] and there's your Win 7 start menu and desktop back from the dead. These are the first two things to do when lumbered with a Windows 8 machine.
Windows 8 already has one, it's just that nobody seems to know about it. All you do is move the desktop card to the top left hand side of Metro. Whichever card is in that position will be launched after booting.
Perhaps Microsoft's "Stack Ranking" review process (where every unit must declare certain percentage of employees top performers, good, average and poor performers) has infused the entire organization with a tendancy to shift blame when anything goes wrong?
Wow. They really stick real people on a curve like that? And there always must be "average" and "poor" workers in every unit? That sucks. It's medieval. And stupid if it's true.
For the love of everything holy, WHY CAN'T THEY BRING OUT TWO PRODUCT LINES, ONE FOR BUSINESS AND ONE FOR CONSUMERS.
Better yet: one product for keyboard devices and yet another for touchscreen devices. As God intended. It's what Apple did with astonishing success, just incidentally. MS deserve to take a dive for this debacle.
Win8 is one of those things people will look back at after the fact and recognize that it was much better than everyone thought.
Oh yes! I know that after I stop banging my head with a large hammer, it feels good, so I'll look back at banging my head with a hammer as much better than I remembered it to be. Oh yes, it's logical!
Naively, I bought a new Lenovo i7/6GB/1TB because it was cheap *and* it was one of the few laptops in the entire store that would still boot Linux from a usb drive without jumping through unknown hoops. All the others I tried with similar specs (many better laptops and all also with uefi boot) had some problem booting from usb - usually no 'legacy' boot setting or equivalent in the boot screen (no longer called BIOS settings). It came with Windows 8, which I assumed could not possibly be as bad as what it was said to be. Boy was I wrong.
Windows 8 is absolutely, abysmally, shockingly awful on a keyboard laptop. I have installed Classic Shell to give me back a start menu. I have learned to use ctl-alt-tab to get between the awful rubbish 'apps' and a quasi-desktop experience. I worked out how to get a command prompt. It's still only just bearable. I want this shit gone. Dead. Buried.
I had a talk to a guy in a small pc service shop - he says he gets at least two requests a day from customers begging him to remove Windows 8 and install Windows 7, but he tells me it seems it isn't possible on some new laptops to do this. He took a hard drive out of one machine, wiped Windiows 8 and installed Windows 7. When he put the hard drive back in the laptop, the motherboard would no longer recognize the drive. Perhaps he doesn't understand UEFI boot, I dunno. I am just tempted to send this shit back to Lenovo and say: give me my money back or give me Windows 7 on this machine.
I'm not trying to make a case for a blanket pornography ban, but those who imply that consuming explicit media "harms no one" are starting to slowly find themselves on the losing side of the science.
Then instead of banning everything, why not educate people how to use porn sensibly? But then, we can't teach people how to drink booze sensibly, so we definitely should ban booze, right? And puritans won't tolerate sex education in schools, even though it is very clear that it would reduce teen pregnancies, inappropriate sex when the teen is not ready, STDs, etc. Who needs rationality anyway? The United States of Hysteria.
And there's Gilbert and George in the UK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_%26_George) who like to photograph their anuses. That's been around since the 1980s and no-one rightly gives a shit. They are high profile artists in the UK.
It's the purityranical core of the US creeping out again. First, prove it's bad, second ban it. It doesn't matter if the initial proof is wrong or all lies. Once it's banned, it stays banned. Marijuana is still illegal, being banned for racist reasons by money from the textile industry and big pharma.
Also still banned because the profit on sales is much higher for contraband; this pumps huge amounts of money into organized crime. Connections in the US government benefit from this. Instead, government should legalize, insist on purity and quality control, and heavily tax it. The public coffers would benefit and international organized crime would be dealt a serious blow.
I find the 'Saw' movies disgusting and tedious. But I don't want them banned just because they're revolting bad movies. But I don't need them banned. Call me old fashioned, but I just don't watch them! Everyone has a choice, a point which seems to all elude the would-be censors of the world.
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And that is apropo of what exactly?
^^THIS. The safety obsession, as if we can control freak everything and live forever. Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
Risks? But it's for our own good!. They said so.
Dangerous subversive thinking these days it seems:
Those who would trade in their freedom for their protection deserve neither. Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin
To be fair, yes this is a hobby OS, but to say that with disdain diminishes the value of a hobby.
Nice point. Amateur means "one who loves" (literally), it should never be disparaging to be called an amateur. Hobbyists are "amateurs" by definition. All the great Renaissance thinkers were amateurs across a wide range of fields, but often to great depth. Hence we owe much of modern thinking to amateurs.
We regularly demonize many classes of people and demote to non-human. Pedophiles. terrorists, monsters-du-jour, you name it. Before those is was gays, blacks, various ethnicities, you name it. Fashions come, fashions go.
It's kind of like having someone come in and reorganize your music based on their own crazy thought process.
At least you can turn it off... for now.
But this is endemic of a larger problem using Google products, they're tinkering with the things that aren't broken and shutting down projects that people use.
There's something not quite right with that attitude.
You got it. It's designer-driven change for change's sake. The same problem as Gnome with Gnome3 and the same problem that MS have with Windows 8. Changes that nobody wants or needs - except bored designers.
The announcement notes that if you aren't interested in the new view, you can switch off all the tabs to go back to the classic inbox view.
Until they feel like not making that available, and want to force feed their shit down everyones' throats.
That's right, the 2ic of the Linux kernel, Andrew Morton, flatly refuses to work with patches and still sends his revisions to Mr Torvalds in massive tarballs, a cause of merciless jibes from the latter. Linus laughs it off and puts it down to Mr Morton's eccentricities (but he also puts up with it).
Does this anachronistic obstinacy make Andrew Morton a "bad" programmer?
Windows 8 already has one, it's just that nobody seems to know about it. All you do is move the desktop card to the top left hand side of Metro. Whichever card is in that position will be launched after booting.
And to follow up: then install the free Classic Shell [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Shell] and there's your Win 7 start menu and desktop back from the dead. These are the first two things to do when lumbered with a Windows 8 machine.
Hopefully they'll have a 'boot to desktop' option
Windows 8 already has one, it's just that nobody seems to know about it. All you do is move the desktop card to the top left hand side of Metro. Whichever card is in that position will be launched after booting.
Perhaps Microsoft's "Stack Ranking" review process (where every unit must declare certain percentage of employees top performers, good, average and poor performers) has infused the entire organization with a tendancy to shift blame when anything goes wrong?
Wow. They really stick real people on a curve like that? And there always must be "average" and "poor" workers in every unit? That sucks. It's medieval. And stupid if it's true.
the act of repetitively pressing upon a solid mass with no give for hours upon hours a day
Now that's a low blow! You were watching me have sex with my ex, weren't you!
And I don't no better either. I don't yes very well, too.
Is the duck hot?
For the love of everything holy, WHY CAN'T THEY BRING OUT TWO PRODUCT LINES, ONE FOR BUSINESS AND ONE FOR CONSUMERS.
Better yet: one product for keyboard devices and yet another for touchscreen devices. As God intended. It's what Apple did with astonishing success, just incidentally. MS deserve to take a dive for this debacle.
Win8 is one of those things people will look back at after the fact and recognize that it was much better than everyone thought.
Oh yes! I know that after I stop banging my head with a large hammer, it feels good, so I'll look back at banging my head with a hammer as much better than I remembered it to be. Oh yes, it's logical!
Just what is a *Vista* computer? If she likes Windows 8, it's because she doesn't no better. And I call you an MS shill.
Naively, I bought a new Lenovo i7/6GB/1TB because it was cheap *and* it was one of the few laptops in the entire store that would still boot Linux from a usb drive without jumping through unknown hoops. All the others I tried with similar specs (many better laptops and all also with uefi boot) had some problem booting from usb - usually no 'legacy' boot setting or equivalent in the boot screen (no longer called BIOS settings). It came with Windows 8, which I assumed could not possibly be as bad as what it was said to be. Boy was I wrong.
Windows 8 is absolutely, abysmally, shockingly awful on a keyboard laptop. I have installed Classic Shell to give me back a start menu. I have learned to use ctl-alt-tab to get between the awful rubbish 'apps' and a quasi-desktop experience. I worked out how to get a command prompt. It's still only just bearable. I want this shit gone. Dead. Buried.
I had a talk to a guy in a small pc service shop - he says he gets at least two requests a day from customers begging him to remove Windows 8 and install Windows 7, but he tells me it seems it isn't possible on some new laptops to do this. He took a hard drive out of one machine, wiped Windiows 8 and installed Windows 7. When he put the hard drive back in the laptop, the motherboard would no longer recognize the drive. Perhaps he doesn't understand UEFI boot, I dunno. I am just tempted to send this shit back to Lenovo and say: give me my money back or give me Windows 7 on this machine.
I'm not trying to make a case for a blanket pornography ban, but those who imply that consuming explicit media "harms no one" are starting to slowly find themselves on the losing side of the science.
Then instead of banning everything, why not educate people how to use porn sensibly? But then, we can't teach people how to drink booze sensibly, so we definitely should ban booze, right? And puritans won't tolerate sex education in schools, even though it is very clear that it would reduce teen pregnancies, inappropriate sex when the teen is not ready, STDs, etc. Who needs rationality anyway? The United States of Hysteria.
So what does reading Mills and Boon, which is unadulterated romance-"porn", do to women?
And there's Gilbert and George in the UK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_%26_George) who like to photograph their anuses. That's been around since the 1980s and no-one rightly gives a shit. They are high profile artists in the UK.
It's the purityranical core of the US creeping out again. First, prove it's bad, second ban it. It doesn't matter if the initial proof is wrong or all lies. Once it's banned, it stays banned. Marijuana is still illegal, being banned for racist reasons by money from the textile industry and big pharma.
Also still banned because the profit on sales is much higher for contraband; this pumps huge amounts of money into organized crime. Connections in the US government benefit from this. Instead, government should legalize, insist on purity and quality control, and heavily tax it. The public coffers would benefit and international organized crime would be dealt a serious blow.
Yeah that's happened to me several times also. I seldom bother submitting anymore, I mean why? There is no incentive to do so.
I find the 'Saw' movies disgusting and tedious. But I don't want them banned just because they're revolting bad movies. But I don't need them banned. Call me old fashioned, but I just don't watch them! Everyone has a choice, a point which seems to all elude the would-be censors of the world.