This is an extremely important even for linux. Its the chance for Linux to enter the hidden world where computers are in use in huge amounts, and few people are aware - in manufacturing environments. However, for robotic and process control, realtime (hard and soft) operating systems are required (as well as embedded systems, which Linux is also maturing into).
To have a high profile event like this is a CLEAR and STRONG message to traditional competitors that have controlled this field for years. Hilariously enough a large percentage of the machines are running DOS (its small and old and its bugs are well known), but the rest are generally unix.
Unbelievably a large amount of this is SCO - the unix world's DOS:) There's a large amount of Sun boxes (many old enough to be pre-solaris) as well as HP and QNX, which is a cool ass OS no matter how you slice it. A large number of these are old just for the reason that they work fine and are well tested - but an upgrade is imminent.
What better than getting a system with fully open and free source code? This is almost more important to them than it is to applications users and coders - they need to get into the nitty gritty. Having a viable, stable, popular and open source and $FREE$ real time operating system is going to catapult linux even further ahead than it already is.
I wonder when the IPOs in this market will start happening.;)
It HAS already happened. As it is people write code already for LINUX specifically, even tho its just generic unix code (hell, with a bit more care it would even run under Win95). I dont see a problem with writing the most compatible code if the overhead to do so is low. But already people rely on specifics of that disitribution.
As I said, there are a number of things that cant be compiled for FreeBSD just because they were developped under linux. And Im not talking IPCHAINS or something else that talks to the linux Kernel. Im talking generic stuff like "this is a nice personal scheduler" or the like. (Possibly a pathalogical example, but there are many examples near this.)
Check this The Register Article about how Redhat is now losing more money than it was before.
What happens when the major shareholders come calling for their profits in 3 years? These shareholders may not understand OSS at all. "I thought this was going to be the next Microsoft! Where's my money!" and they may suggest solutions of "Well, obviously all the linux distros are doing well, I dont see why we dont hold 95% of the market. Start branding, just like Microsoft did." Before you know it, people working at these companies are going to have to make important decisions about how they want to write software, as well as package it, or even market it. THere's no OSS marketing guide out there, we're just trusting people out there to do the right thing.
And when these upstanding moral coders who believe in OSS have to QUIT to standup for their beliefs - then someone will take their place in 5 seconds, and do as the executives say, who do as the board of directors say, who in turn represent the shareholders.
I think we will begin seeing this in a couple years.
I KNOW that redhat is supposedly making its money on service and support as well as training courses and the like, but people are likely to call up support at the place where they bought their distro from. If RedHat doesnt hold 95% of the Linux distro market, then by definition it WILL be facing competition. This is a good thing for consumers in traditional pay-for-software markets, but bad for OSS which is bad for consumers when the software WAS free.
Competition makes companies stake out territories and hold onto them. This is done through branding as I said, and through fostering loyalty. If enough loyalty isnt generated from mere 'great service', then I would say that proprietary code and protocols will be rearing their ugly heads before we know it.
All Im saying is we should be VIGILANT. Is there any reason not to be?
What happens when you pour $1B into linux over 2-3 years in this huge hype? Are we all sure this wont change the face of Linux, and OSS in general from all this money being involved? Remember money tends to corrupt - you will see branding, competition inside linux itself, and suddenly people will be writing code for one distribution that will absolutely NOT work on any other - because its been designed that way. Major software writers today who have 'OSS morals' may not do this - but what will joe blow coder for Linux startup X be doing when his boss indicates that this is a Good Thing[tm]?
Already we see MUCH code that is totally unusable on *BSD coming out of coders using linux. They're writing code thats pretty general, they just happen to be using linux at the time - next thing you know it wont run anywhere else.
What happens when people take this the next step further and write for only one distribution?
Bill Gates will be looking to do a replay of the fracturing of the Unix market as what happened in the 80s - we do NOT want this to happen again.
[ Try not to moderate this as off topic too quickly: this is relevant to almost ALL stories, but I officially wont be "on topic" until " the self-agrandizing slashdot effect" story rears its head again, which I dont blame the/. kids for avoiding. Its hardly "NEWS". If this DOESN'T belong here, please let me know where to post it. ]
Is there a point to following stories that have even the slightest INKLING of being interesting or having some file to download on the other end, and dont point at CNN.com? People throw up mirrors and they go down, and then the original goes down.
Ya maybe it will all be available in 3-5 days, but who surfs/. 3-5 days later?
Perhaps its time to start mirroring your quarry,/. boys. You have bandwidth and alot of the news you cull points to other sites with cool ideas and no bandwidth. Seeing as you are actually making money off all this, perhaps a little bandwidth fund to mirror stuff yourself would be a good idea. Run this by Andover execs and see if they'll pony up the bw for stuff thats not on the BBC news net or what not that can otherwise handle it.
A well tuned squid would be a good way to mirror things without risking updates on the target site being missed. Some sort of PHP or Perl script could be a psuedo-proxy gateway to turn regular url requests into accesses via the Squid to a target site. Or whatever; billions of other ways to do it.
I feel sorry for people featured on/. You just gotta hope the coverage can cover the losses of whoever's network it is they're on getting hosed. This might be quite difficult for people who just have a cool project on the net thats not ready to collect $ as a commercial entity for free advertising with/. I wonder how many people have LOST their homepages because of/. effect?
I tried dvorak for 2 1/2 months. I tracked my speed. (I type average 95-100wpm on qwerty, and when I really try on a good keyboard, I can average about 110wpm. My burst record is 131 wpm for 200 characters. Slower than two friends of mine still. Yes, I want more speed! Avoiding a mouse speeds me up for raw input speed anyway.
Who the hell needs to type much faster unless they're data entry people or write more email than they should? I dont know anyone who writes verbose long unix pipes faster than they can type: mebbe they should use shorter pipes. And for coders, I really doubt that you can code at a constant 110wpm! If you can, we have a job for you.)
Dvorak rates for my conversion effort:
end of 1st day: 7 wpm (what a hellish day) end 1st week: 22wpm end 2nd week: 31wpm end 3rd week: 38wpm end 4th week: 43wpm end 5th week: 46wpm end 6th week: 48wpm end 7th week: 49wpm end 8th week: 50wpm end 9th week: 50wpm end 10th week: 51wpm
I couldnt handle it anymore, and kept on naturally 'forgetting' to put my machine into dvorak mode (i was lazy and never setup my.xinitrc;)
Eventually I gave up because I was only at half my rate. Mebbe I just cant learn anything new cuz I've been typing qwerty for the last 19 years on computers and Im an old dog.
Im happy with qwerty I guess, at 100-110wpm, for the most part. I wish there was something that would net me something more like 300-500wpm, but I think we'd have to move away from fingers. Mebbe not: I think keyboard chords would be better, but would be far harder to learn.
Mathboy. -- "Sometimes two [harmless] words, when put together, strike fear in the hearts of men -- Microsoft Wallet." - Dave Gilbert
dorkus, the point of the project for rc5 or seti is to get thru as many data sets as possible. Seti picked their apparently too small dataset because they didnt allow for a magnitude of error in # of participants (they obviously didnt know much about the net either.)
We're not going to sit around and turn off our monster machines (say, my company's bunch of Amd boxen, some 40-50 in total, not to mention a whole slew of my and my friends Celeron boxes). Im sure we're kicking your ass, but like, where is the line drawn? Some other company has many more than our 60 odd machines on rc5, and yet Im not complaining.
What, are we going to have a Cyrix200 only competition? It would never finish. I'll join the 'open' category any time, so I can see our efforts finish, and move on to the next project.
Besides, remember a P90 found the Deschall key despite sun.com's massive enterprise server w/64CPUs being on it. So there.
did you calc power when seti or rc5 was running and when it was not? I know for SURE that when rc5 is running its 2C hotter threshold in my room with the AC on, and just at the point where its not comfy any more. When I shutoff Rc5 its nice and cool.
Not to mention my machine's cpu temp - when its runnign NOTHING and its 27C in the room (~80F) it sits at 31-32C. When I fire up rc5 or seti, it climbs to 51C. The thing is HOT. TOo hot to touch even with a cpu fan and an extra fan pointing at it (this is a C300a OC'd to 464Mhz). THat heat goes RIGHT into my room and makes me sweat.
There may have been slight doubts about wether people would be allowed to know about the Deschall results. The problem is that its VERY hard for the govt to really shut down or stop deschall, because the knowledge of how it works is widespread, and so is the equipment to see if it was crackable - and crack we did. It was just an organizational challenge. It had a tangible result with a political repercussion. That was the real daddy of all cracks because it was the first succesful very wide distributed crack (at least to my knowledge).
Seti seems like a HUGE shot in the dark. If you read the FAQ, the chances of finding another IET civ out there is vanishingly small based on the sample set and other factors. They admit it themselves. So:
1) we dont even know if there will be a result. And when there's no result, we cant chalk it up to just a bad set of client software or a bent Arciebo dish. There just might not be anyone there - and we cant even be sure, because the data sample is from an extremely narrow bandwidth of a small section of the sky.
2) SHOULD we find something, how the hell are we going to be sure we're allowed to know? I mean, ya this is sounding all X files and all - but its really not easy for someone to go home and figure out if someone stepped in and fudged the "no" results. There are no competing seti's like there was for Deschall - other groups could verify the efforts of Deschall (some dropped out, but I think SGI had its own internall effort, for eg).
The govertnments (probably those of Nato in this case) probably has some reason for not letting any concrete evidence of ETI getting out. Either we wont hear about it at all, or it will be accompanied by so much hype and other fuzzy claims or denials or what not, we wont know whats true and whats not (like area51 and other encounters nowadays, tho I personally dont believe in the astronomically improbable likelyhood of aliens having a symilar physiology to us, never mind having to be based on carbon like we are).
Couple those two things together, throw in SETI screaming for help wehn they reach loads that are equivalent to a 1/10th of what CDROM.COM handles constantly, make big parades and press releases of how Top level Sun Engineers have to walk in and help them because this is SOOOO cutting edge (and not that its a bad design), and you end up with a project that has TOTALLY lost all my faith.
Rc5's stats are way better, the foster competition and actually finding EVERY machine in your house and your friends' house and his workplace and everywhere that you can (and many places you SHOULDNT) and throw them into your team's stats. We eagerly await client updates, which, for DES at least, showed HUGE improvements over, say, Deschall (I remember 600Kk/s on my P133 in DESchall - with the RC5 client I think its 3-4 times that now!)
Not to mention SETI repeated keys for weeks, and is now trying to keep the load down (they admitted themselves they had problem with load months ago).
Lame.
Not that rc5's result is that interesting to me right now, I am actually trying to help setup an independent research team with some cycles and clients to calculate protein/enzyme interactions in human cells - something thats apparently much overlooked in North America (I dont know much about the org.chemistry in this effort, Im the unix guy;)
THAT would be a far more interesting and useful project than just cracking more keys to convince some entrenched non-science-educated politicians something we've been pounding over their heads for years (really, the mersenne prime search is more interesting to me than rc5 - I might switch soon, unless rc5 actually does some work on the Golomb Rulers project).
If you want more info on the computational chemistry shit, email rutile at home dotte com (decode that yerself) and he will explain what they're trying to do.
dude, you KEEP your expired card around. no one person is going to know anything about how each university formats their cards. Christ, my UfToronto card has a sticker on the back thats all ratty that says what year it was valid. But its small and totally unnoticeable where it says 1995.;) NO ONE is gunna know.
However, if you can get the man (your employer) to pay, then do do so.
He says first: "By the time our signature stabilizes," explains Miezkowsky, "so does our personality. Hence, a change in signature often signals a major shift in personality." Ok, so changes in signature are an EFFECT of changes in personality. Fine.
but then he says, tantamount thereto, imho, that forcing change in ones signature can CAUSE problems (with personality?): "With PIP, it's not a signature change but a radical departure from one's individual style of writing, and this alteration can lead to big, big problems."
I dont know why he says "its not a signature change", because that links back to the first statement, suggesting he's thinking of it as a CAUSE to things similar to personality change.
I dont think its a two way street bub.
While I dont doubt that some people can get neurological impairment from various suprising things, and this may be one of them, I think his reasoning is off (or at least his attention to the logic grammar in his statements is incorrect).
WOW! Its going to trial in 1998?! CANT WAIT!
on
1984, today.
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Wonder whats going to happen when it does.
I totally dont get it. If this story is so amazing where's the freakin update? Anyone think of going to conventional media to follow up on what happened? It woulda been all over CNN, and therefore posted to/. months ago... no?
So hard to get administrivial ideas like this up to the top of slashdot staff... all the commentary below is ON TOPIC, not related to the management of the story on the site. My post will be lost in about 10-15 minutes among others...
Slashdot Mirror
well its not going on right now, but it will starting EXACTLY on time, and will run EXACTLY as long as planned. no more (soft) and no less (hard).
:)
Math
This is an extremely important even for linux. Its the chance for Linux to enter the hidden world where computers are in use in huge amounts, and few people are aware - in manufacturing environments. However, for robotic and process control, realtime (hard and soft) operating systems are required (as well as embedded systems, which Linux is also maturing into).
:) There's a large amount of Sun boxes (many old enough to be pre-solaris) as well as HP and QNX, which is a cool ass OS no matter how you slice it. A large number of these are old just for the reason that they work fine and are well tested - but an upgrade is imminent.
;)
To have a high profile event like this is a CLEAR and STRONG message to traditional competitors that have controlled this field for years. Hilariously enough a large percentage of the machines are running DOS (its small and old and its bugs are
well known), but the rest are generally unix.
Unbelievably a large amount of this is SCO - the unix world's DOS
What better than getting a system with fully open and free source code? This is almost more important to them than it is to applications users and coders - they need to get into the nitty gritty. Having a viable, stable, popular and open source and $FREE$ real time operating system is
going to catapult linux even further ahead than it already is.
I wonder when the IPOs in this market will start happening.
It HAS already happened. As it is people write code already for LINUX specifically, even tho its just generic unix code (hell, with a bit more care it would even run under Win95). I dont see a problem with writing the most compatible code if the overhead to do so is low. But already people rely on specifics of that disitribution.
As I said, there are a number of things that cant be compiled for FreeBSD just because they were developped under linux. And Im not talking IPCHAINS or something else that talks to the linux Kernel. Im talking generic stuff like "this is a nice personal scheduler" or the like. (Possibly a pathalogical example, but there are many examples near this.)
Check this The Register Article about how Redhat is now losing more money than it was before.
What happens when the major shareholders come calling for their profits in 3 years? These shareholders may not understand OSS at all. "I thought this was going to be the next Microsoft! Where's my money!" and they may suggest solutions of "Well, obviously all the linux distros are doing well, I dont see why we dont hold 95% of the market. Start branding, just like Microsoft did." Before you know it, people working at these companies are going to have to make important decisions about how they want to write software, as well as package it, or even market it. THere's no OSS marketing guide out there, we're just trusting people out there to do the right thing.
And when these upstanding moral coders who believe in OSS have to QUIT to standup for their beliefs - then someone will take their place in 5 seconds, and do as the executives say, who do as the board of directors say, who in turn represent the shareholders.
I think we will begin seeing this in a couple years.
I KNOW that redhat is supposedly making its money on service and support as well as training courses and the like, but people are likely to call up support at the place where they bought their distro from. If RedHat doesnt hold 95% of the Linux distro market, then by definition it WILL be facing competition. This is a good thing for consumers in traditional pay-for-software markets, but bad for OSS which is bad for consumers when the software WAS free.
Competition makes companies stake out territories and hold onto them. This is done through branding as I said, and through fostering loyalty. If enough loyalty isnt generated from mere 'great service', then I would say that proprietary code and protocols will be rearing their ugly heads before we know it.
All Im saying is we should be VIGILANT. Is there any reason not to be?
Math.
What happens when you pour $1B into linux over 2-3 years in this huge hype? Are we all sure this wont change the face of Linux, and OSS in general from all this money being involved? Remember money tends to corrupt - you will see branding, competition inside linux itself, and suddenly people will be writing code for one distribution that will absolutely NOT work on any other - because its been designed that way. Major software writers today who have 'OSS morals' may not do this - but what will joe blow coder for Linux startup X be doing when his boss indicates that this is a Good Thing[tm]?
Already we see MUCH code that is totally unusable on *BSD coming out of coders using linux. They're writing code thats pretty general, they just happen to be using linux at the time - next thing you know it wont run anywhere else.
What happens when people take this the next step further and write for only one distribution?
Bill Gates will be looking to do a replay of the fracturing of the Unix market as what happened in the 80s - we do NOT want this to happen again.
Math
[ Try not to moderate this as off topic too quickly: this is relevant to almost ALL stories, but I officially wont be "on topic" until " the self-agrandizing slashdot effect" story rears its head again, which I dont blame the /. kids for avoiding. Its hardly "NEWS". If this DOESN'T belong here, please let me know where to post it. ]
/. 3-5 days later?
/. boys. You have bandwidth and alot of the news you cull points to other sites with cool ideas and no bandwidth. Seeing as you are actually making money off all this, perhaps a little bandwidth fund to mirror stuff yourself would be a good idea. Run this by Andover execs and see if they'll pony up the bw for stuff thats not on the BBC news net or what not that can otherwise handle it.
/. You just gotta hope the coverage can cover the losses of whoever's network it is they're on getting hosed. This might be quite difficult for people who just have a cool project on the net thats not ready to collect $ as a commercial entity for free advertising with /. I wonder how many people have LOST their homepages because of /. effect?
Is there a point to following stories that have even the slightest INKLING of being interesting or having some file to download on the other end, and dont point at CNN.com? People throw up mirrors and they go down, and then the original goes down.
Ya maybe it will all be available in 3-5 days, but who surfs
Perhaps its time to start mirroring your quarry,
A well tuned squid would be a good way to mirror things without risking updates on the target site being missed. Some sort of PHP or Perl script could be a psuedo-proxy gateway to turn regular url requests into accesses via the Squid to a target site. Or whatever; billions of other ways to do it.
I feel sorry for people featured on
Mathboy.
I tried dvorak for 2 1/2 months. I tracked my speed. (I type average 95-100wpm on qwerty, and when I really try on a good keyboard, I can average about 110wpm. My burst record is 131 wpm for 200 characters. Slower than two friends of mine still. Yes, I want more speed! Avoiding a mouse speeds me up for raw input speed anyway.
.xinitrc ;)
Who the hell needs to type much faster unless they're data entry people or write more email than they should? I dont know anyone who writes verbose long unix pipes faster than they can type: mebbe they should use shorter pipes. And for coders, I really doubt that you can code at a constant 110wpm! If you can, we have a job for you.)
Dvorak rates for my conversion effort:
end of 1st day: 7 wpm (what a hellish day)
end 1st week: 22wpm
end 2nd week: 31wpm
end 3rd week: 38wpm
end 4th week: 43wpm
end 5th week: 46wpm
end 6th week: 48wpm
end 7th week: 49wpm
end 8th week: 50wpm
end 9th week: 50wpm
end 10th week: 51wpm
I couldnt handle it anymore, and kept on naturally 'forgetting' to put my machine into dvorak mode (i was lazy and never setup my
Eventually I gave up because I was only at half my rate. Mebbe I just cant learn anything new cuz I've been typing qwerty for the last 19 years on computers and Im an old dog.
Im happy with qwerty I guess, at 100-110wpm, for the most part. I wish there was something that would net me something more like 300-500wpm, but I think we'd have to move away from fingers. Mebbe not: I think keyboard chords would be better, but would be far harder to learn.
Mathboy.
--
"Sometimes two [harmless] words, when put together, strike fear in the hearts of men -- Microsoft Wallet." - Dave Gilbert
dorkus, the point of the project for rc5 or
seti is to get thru as many data sets as possible.
Seti picked their apparently too small dataset
because they didnt allow for a magnitude of
error in # of participants (they obviously didnt know much about the net either.)
We're not going to sit around and turn off our
monster machines (say, my company's bunch of Amd
boxen, some 40-50 in total, not to mention
a whole slew of my and my friends Celeron boxes).
Im sure we're kicking your ass, but like, where
is the line drawn? Some other company has many
more than our 60 odd machines on rc5, and yet
Im not complaining.
What, are we going to have a Cyrix200 only competition? It would never finish. I'll join the 'open' category any time, so I can see our efforts finish, and move on to the next project.
Besides, remember a P90 found the Deschall key despite sun.com's massive enterprise server w/64CPUs being on it. So there.
did you calc power when seti or rc5 was running
and when it was not? I know for SURE that when
rc5 is running its 2C hotter threshold in my room
with the AC on, and just at the point where its
not comfy any more. When I shutoff Rc5 its nice
and cool.
Not to mention my machine's cpu temp - when its
runnign NOTHING and its 27C in the room (~80F)
it sits at 31-32C. When I fire up rc5 or seti, it
climbs to 51C. The thing is HOT. TOo hot to touch
even with a cpu fan and an extra fan pointing
at it (this is a C300a OC'd to 464Mhz). THat heat
goes RIGHT into my room and makes me sweat.
There may have been slight doubts about wether people would be allowed to know about the Deschall
;)
results. The problem is that its VERY hard for the govt to really shut down or stop deschall, because the knowledge of how it works is widespread, and so is the equipment to see if it was crackable - and crack we did. It was just an organizational challenge. It had a tangible result with a political repercussion. That was the real daddy of all cracks because it was the first succesful very wide distributed crack (at least to my knowledge).
Seti seems like a HUGE shot in the dark. If you read the FAQ, the chances of finding another IET civ out there is vanishingly small based on the sample set and other factors. They admit it themselves. So:
1) we dont even know if there will be a result. And when there's no result, we cant chalk it up to
just a bad set of client software or a bent Arciebo dish. There just might not be anyone there - and we cant even be sure, because the data sample is from an extremely narrow bandwidth of a small section of the sky.
2) SHOULD we find something, how the hell are we going to be sure we're allowed to know? I mean, ya this is sounding all X files and all - but its really not easy for someone to go home and figure out if someone stepped in and fudged the "no" results. There are no competing seti's like there was for Deschall - other groups could verify the efforts of Deschall (some dropped out, but I think SGI had its own internall effort, for eg).
The govertnments (probably those of Nato in this case) probably has some reason for not letting any concrete evidence of ETI getting out. Either we wont hear about it at all, or it will be accompanied by so much hype and other fuzzy claims or denials or what not, we wont know whats true and whats not (like area51 and other encounters nowadays, tho I personally dont believe in the astronomically improbable likelyhood of aliens having a symilar physiology to us, never mind having to be based on carbon like we are).
Couple those two things together, throw in SETI screaming for help wehn they reach loads that are equivalent to a 1/10th of what CDROM.COM handles constantly, make big parades and press releases of how Top level Sun Engineers have to walk in and help them because this is SOOOO cutting edge (and not that its a bad design), and you end up with a project that has TOTALLY lost all my faith.
Rc5's stats are way better, the foster competition and actually finding EVERY machine in your house and your friends' house and his workplace and everywhere that you can (and many places you SHOULDNT) and throw them into your team's stats. We eagerly await client updates, which, for DES at least, showed HUGE improvements over, say, Deschall (I remember 600Kk/s on my P133 in DESchall - with the RC5 client I think its 3-4 times that now!)
Not to mention SETI repeated keys for weeks, and is now trying to keep the load down (they admitted themselves they had problem with load months ago).
Lame.
Not that rc5's result is that interesting to me right now, I am actually trying to help setup an independent research team with some cycles and clients to calculate protein/enzyme interactions in human cells - something thats apparently much overlooked in North America (I dont know much about the org.chemistry in this effort, Im the unix guy
THAT would be a far more interesting and useful project than just cracking more keys to convince some entrenched non-science-educated politicians something we've been pounding over their heads for years (really, the mersenne prime search is more interesting to me than rc5 - I might switch soon, unless rc5 actually does some work on the Golomb Rulers project).
If you want more info on the computational chemistry shit, email rutile at home dotte com (decode that yerself) and he will explain what they're trying to do.
Flash fry a blue whale? Why bother when you can
just flash fry a Fidel Castro instead?
dude, you KEEP your expired card around. no one ;) NO ONE is gunna know.
person is going to know anything about how each
university formats their cards. Christ, my
UfToronto card has a sticker on the back thats all
ratty that says what year it was valid. But its
small and totally unnoticeable where it says
1995.
However, if you can get the man (your employer)
to pay, then do do so.
It might be real, but I dont buy the explanation.
He says first: "By the time our signature stabilizes," explains Miezkowsky, "so does our
personality. Hence, a change in signature often signals a major shift in personality." Ok,
so changes in signature are an EFFECT of changes in personality. Fine.
but then he says, tantamount thereto, imho, that forcing change in ones signature can CAUSE problems (with personality?): "With PIP, it's not a signature change but a radical departure from one's individual style of writing, and this alteration can lead to big, big problems."
I dont know why he says "its not a signature change", because that links back to the first statement, suggesting he's thinking of it as a CAUSE to things similar to personality change.
I dont think its a two way street bub.
While I dont doubt that some people can get neurological impairment from various suprising
things, and this may be one of them, I think his reasoning is off (or at least his attention to the logic grammar in his statements is incorrect).
Wonder whats going to happen when it does.
/. months ago... no?
I totally dont get it. If this story is so amazing
where's the freakin update? Anyone think of going
to conventional media to follow up on what
happened? It woulda been all over CNN, and therefore posted to
So hard to get administrivial ideas like this up
to the top of slashdot staff... all the commentary
below is ON TOPIC, not related to the management
of the story on the site. My post will be lost
in about 10-15 minutes among others...
Digiteck has a rushmore quantum 950Mb for
$15,000. You could buy more than a dozen GIGS
for that much of PC100 DIMMs...
Money talks, common sense walks.
This is like that patent on ONLINE SHOPPING
CARTS. Anyone been sued yet? Or no one is
worth suing yet Ispose.