Now I understand your problem. With all that supposed learning you failed to grasp rudimentary principles of the topic at hand. I can conclude you are either lying or simple minded but in either case, you are still deflecting. Now you seem to think Jesus as a teenager somehow magically supports your assertion [oh, the irony!!!]. I don't need to look it up as it is outside the Christian faith. I'm not trying to convince you to believe or not believe, just call you out on your incorrect supposition about killing which you still cannot support.
There, I fixed your typos, as it is so hard for you to do it. Btw, learn at least this word, that you slaughtered several times: emperor, not emporer. Yes, the emperor, Constantine, the one who defined what is your faith, when he decided to not include so many books, as the one I mentioned.
You "don't need to look it up" because you let others do the thinking for you. Yes, for some people thinking is hard. But at least be sincere and admit you are ignorant of so many thing, just because you decided it is better to be so.
Lol. As i said, you simply do not know what you are talking about. [...] bla bla bla [...] but i'm certainly calling your criticisms out based on your lack of knowlege of it.
I was raised Catholic. My father studied to be a Catholic priest, he left just before the vows. I read the whole fucking bible (did you?), I studied religions based on Christianity, amongst others. Yeah, I'm sure it is me the one lacking knowledge and understanding.
please put together a coherent thought
I did. But it seems you don't have the cognitive skills to understand that.
Be brave and accept my challenge, find about teenager Jesus, and why his story was not included in the bible.
I still hold your position on killing is incorect and i still hold that you failed to support it.
Of course you do, as you fail at the most basic levels of text comprehension. But let me take your hand and guide you through this marvelous world of words.
You stated that killing is not murder when it is some how justified, then you asked:
Can you explain to me about not supposed to be murdering [...]?
And then, just below, I answered:
No, of course I can't. Because it doesn't make sense.
And why doesn't it make sense to anyone who has at least two neurons? Because by "justified" it can mean "you made fun of a bald guy, DIE!". That's the example I gave for my statement that it doesn't make sense. There are hundreds of others.
This "reading" thing is not that hard... it helps to first get your head out of your ass, though.
It seems your limitation in text comprehension is deeper than just religion-induced. Anyway, when augmented by your religion bias, it is useless to try to argue. But if one day you decide to be unbiased to yourself, at least try to find out why the book about teenager Jesus was not included in the bible.
I apologize for the insults, I was tired when I wrote, and frustrated for realizing you don't make the effort to understand my statements.
rather than substance.
Even though I don't go into details (this is not the appropriate medium, neither do I have time) there is quite a bit of useful information in my posts, if only you could get past your cognitive filters. More below.
So answer a few things. What is in the bible that jehovas witnesses believe that catholics do not.
Several things, one of them is the existence of hell. One believe that hell is metaphorical, the other that it is physically real. I won't go into the details.
Where did the emperor get the stories,
Do you know the meaning of "bible" right? There were several books around, he picked the ones convenient to his objectives. But you should know that already. And I mentioned the teenager Jesus, did you know there was a book telling his story? I ask you again: ever wondered why it was not included? Or why Eve was made of Adam's rib instead of being made independently? When you find out, come tell me what you think about it.
Here is your problem, [...] now you are trying to ignore that supposition in order to claim jesus didn't exist
Here is your problem, you read what you want to read instead of what I wrote. Read again, I didn't claim that Jesus didn't exist in any way, shape, or form.
But i guess you read something on an atheist website created by someone suffering the same problem of ignorance that you do.
Nopz, ~20 years ago I decided to read the Christian bible and study other religions. If I have a problem, ignorance isn't it.
I bet you think you are a doctor of religous studies now.
No, of course not. But I'm sure I know it better than you.
Please continue to squirm.
After you answer my questions above. If you dare think for yourself. Btw, feel free to email me, the address is in my sig.
I'll not answer for everything you got wrong in your post, there's just too many things.
That being said, outside of the cult groups that add to the bible, the differences in the Christian religion is mainly in dogma outside the bible and empasis differences on different verses.
Nopz, not by far. Unless you just label "cult" for everyone that disagrees with you. You certainly don't consider Mormons as Christians then. And Jehovah Witnesses, do you think it is just dogma that differs to Catholics (regardless of sect)? Again nopz, not by far. It is pretty clear you live in a bubble. That's the religion brainwashing at work.
Like i said, context is needed to understand the words. NOBODY but outsiders who never bother with the meaning pick and chooses.
Congrats, that's Sarah Palin level of stupidity. But ok, it is consistent with your earlier definition of "outsider", as in "cults".
The bible is just a book with the history of several covenants between man and God.
The bible is just a book assembled by emperor Constantine to control the populace. Ever wondered why there is nothing about teenager Jesus? Nah, I'm sure you just eat what they feed you, thinking is bad, question nothing. But you'd be surprised to find out the answer.
Btw, slavery and selling daughters was the jews not christians. It was never a teaching either outside of how to behave when doing it.
Whatever makes you feel better for these great "holy scriptures", source of objective moral to man.
You do know that Jesus was a jew right?
It is pretty clear I know more about Christianity than you do.
Jesus might very well blow bin ladens head off with lasers.
Thank you for illustrating my point, which was that Jesus freaks are [amongst] the most blood-thirsty motherfuckers. You can't see the hypocrisy because you unquestioningly accept your "teachings" -- that's faith after all.
The Christian religions are based on a pick-and-choose approach... whatever is more convenient at the moment there is a "holy scripture" to support it. Seems slavery and selling your own daughters are out of fashion, though.
Can you explain to me about not supposed to be murdering [...]?
No, of course I can't. Because it doesn't make sense. Like when Yahweh commands a bear to kill children because they made fun of a bald guy... sounds totally reasonable, right? And then Jesus comes and say to love your enemies, to turn the other cheek, etc. and that rich people were not likely to enter heaven (best selling point to the Tea Party, right?) What would Jesus do? Totally blow the head off of Bin Laden, with lasers!!!
And that would not be murder, it would be just killing, because Jesus.
Without that fair trial, he was a not-guilty man and shooting him was murder.
FTFY. Too bad the constitution has been used as toilet paper nowadays. And the Jesus freaks, the ones that should be trying to enforce their "god's command" to not murder, are the most blood-thirsty motherfuckers. Hypocrisy FTW!
I just picked that comment because it said "thru [sic] ssl", and I interpreted as "breaking DH" or something. But I was referring to a somewhat spread sentiment that breaking encryption is just a matter of developing technique, which may not be the case (hence my sarcastic reference to the halting problem & Godel's incompleteness theorem).
The issue is not whether they can brute force encryption. We already assume they have the capability of brute forcing all encryption within a reasonable time frame. Something hilariously well protected? 3-6 months.
I love how so many people here are so sure the NSA can do magic on encryption... it's like complexity doesn't exist. They can solve any problem expressible in a general formal system! Halting problem? Fuck the halting problem, that's like stealing candy from a child.
Of course I agree you should *defend* yourself. Becoming a slave is not a good outcome for you. But that was not my point.
You can educate and help others create their own wealth, and even get a fair share of the profits (not the wealth-sucking policy that corporations currently have, though). If you do that, the probable outcome will be grateful people that contribute back to society. [Ok, it is more complex than that, in parallel there should be great pressure to dismantle theocracies, among other things. But this can be achieved through diplomacy.]
If you just bomb the fuck out of everyone, with complete disregard for innocent civilians (the outraging "signature strikes"), don't expect anything else than a "terrorist factory" as outcome. [But hey, that's the point, isn't it? If you create more "terrorists" you can sell more multi-million bombs to kill them.]
I agree, it is immoral no matter what use. We should invest in technology to *avoid* wars, not to fight them better. Too bad the greedy people behind the military industrial complex are already making too much money to realize that there is money to be made in the peaceful way of doing things as well.
I wouldn't be so worried if the mind behind the controls were a completely autonomous AI... actions against innocent people would probably be caused by some pattern matching glitch or whatever.
But with humans on command, the probability of it being used with malicious intent is much higher. You frogs are getting worried about the water temperature, with lots of local police forces getting militarized and stuff... get ready for when these babies start to get deployed locally, to "defend you against the terrorists."
I think the notion that CP somehow extinguishes a fire in a pedo, preventing harm, is groundless.
How can you be so sure?
It goes against common sense
Come on, common sense only goes so far... should we kill the witch because she does/doesn't float? Some centuries ago the common sense answer would be "kill her either way".
and 60+ years of pr0n research.
Would you care to point me to this research?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. my claim is reasonable and rooted in the common human experience. it is prima facae true.
Sure, your claim is reasonable, but I'm not so sure it is true. I didn't claim anything, I just raised a question, which is reasonable as well, not extraordinary at all.
I wonder how many of children are spared of abuse because the pervs had their impulses shunned by porn. Imagine if one day we discover that potential serial killers didn't act in the real world because they could express their anger / sadism / whatever in a virtual world, like in first person shooters.
I'm not trying to defend anything, just some food for thought.
Worth noticing that the availability of thorium is around 10 times more frequent than uranium, and liquid thorium reactors do not suffer from "melt downs".
I'm not familiar with UDT as well, but coincidentally, I'm about to design/implement a protocol that has to work over UDP, for hole-punching (it is a p2p application). I haven't decided yet if the dependency on UDT is justified, and I wasn't aware of QUIC.
So if you could include UDT in future benchmarks, I would appreciate. Btw, thanx for the work so far.
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Now I understand your problem. With all that supposed learning you failed to grasp rudimentary principles of the topic at hand. I can conclude you are either lying or simple minded but in either case, you are still deflecting. Now you seem to think Jesus as a teenager somehow magically supports your assertion [oh, the irony!!!]. I don't need to look it up as it is outside the Christian faith. I'm not trying to convince you to believe or not believe, just call you out on your incorrect supposition about killing which you still cannot support.
There, I fixed your typos, as it is so hard for you to do it. Btw, learn at least this word, that you slaughtered several times: emperor, not emporer. Yes, the emperor, Constantine, the one who defined what is your faith, when he decided to not include so many books, as the one I mentioned.
You "don't need to look it up" because you let others do the thinking for you. Yes, for some people thinking is hard. But at least be sincere and admit you are ignorant of so many thing, just because you decided it is better to be so.
Lol. As i said, you simply do not know what you are talking about. [...] bla bla bla [...] but i'm certainly calling your criticisms out based on your lack of knowlege of it.
I was raised Catholic. My father studied to be a Catholic priest, he left just before the vows. I read the whole fucking bible (did you?), I studied religions based on Christianity, amongst others. Yeah, I'm sure it is me the one lacking knowledge and understanding.
please put together a coherent thought
I did. But it seems you don't have the cognitive skills to understand that.
Be brave and accept my challenge, find about teenager Jesus, and why his story was not included in the bible.
And if you just want to have some fun, try this: http://bibviz.com/
I still hold your position on killing is incorect and i still hold that you failed to support it.
Of course you do, as you fail at the most basic levels of text comprehension. But let me take your hand and guide you through this marvelous world of words.
You stated that killing is not murder when it is some how justified, then you asked:
Can you explain to me about not supposed to be murdering [...]?
And then, just below, I answered:
No, of course I can't. Because it doesn't make sense.
And why doesn't it make sense to anyone who has at least two neurons? Because by "justified" it can mean "you made fun of a bald guy, DIE!". That's the example I gave for my statement that it doesn't make sense. There are hundreds of others.
This "reading" thing is not that hard... it helps to first get your head out of your ass, though.
It seems your limitation in text comprehension is deeper than just religion-induced. Anyway, when augmented by your religion bias, it is useless to try to argue.
But if one day you decide to be unbiased to yourself, at least try to find out why the book about teenager Jesus was not included in the bible.
Good bye, and good luck, sir.
So i see you are deflecting to attemped insults
I apologize for the insults, I was tired when I wrote, and frustrated for realizing you don't make the effort to understand my statements.
rather than substance.
Even though I don't go into details (this is not the appropriate medium, neither do I have time) there is quite a bit of useful information in my posts, if only you could get past your cognitive filters. More below.
So answer a few things. What is in the bible that jehovas witnesses believe that catholics do not.
Several things, one of them is the existence of hell. One believe that hell is metaphorical, the other that it is physically real. I won't go into the details.
Where did the emperor get the stories,
Do you know the meaning of "bible" right? There were several books around, he picked the ones convenient to his objectives. But you should know that already.
And I mentioned the teenager Jesus, did you know there was a book telling his story? I ask you again: ever wondered why it was not included? Or why Eve was made of Adam's rib instead of being made independently? When you find out, come tell me what you think about it.
Here is your problem, [...] now you are trying to ignore that supposition in order to claim jesus didn't exist
Here is your problem, you read what you want to read instead of what I wrote. Read again, I didn't claim that Jesus didn't exist in any way, shape, or form.
But i guess you read something on an atheist website created by someone suffering the same problem of ignorance that you do.
Nopz, ~20 years ago I decided to read the Christian bible and study other religions. If I have a problem, ignorance isn't it.
I bet you think you are a doctor of religous studies now.
No, of course not. But I'm sure I know it better than you.
Please continue to squirm.
After you answer my questions above. If you dare think for yourself. Btw, feel free to email me, the address is in my sig.
I'll not answer for everything you got wrong in your post, there's just too many things.
That being said, outside of the cult groups that add to the bible, the differences in the Christian religion is mainly in dogma outside the bible and empasis differences on different verses.
Nopz, not by far. Unless you just label "cult" for everyone that disagrees with you. You certainly don't consider Mormons as Christians then. And Jehovah Witnesses, do you think it is just dogma that differs to Catholics (regardless of sect)? Again nopz, not by far. It is pretty clear you live in a bubble. That's the religion brainwashing at work.
Like i said, context is needed to understand the words. NOBODY but outsiders who never bother with the meaning pick and chooses.
Congrats, that's Sarah Palin level of stupidity. But ok, it is consistent with your earlier definition of "outsider", as in "cults".
The bible is just a book with the history of several covenants between man and God.
The bible is just a book assembled by emperor Constantine to control the populace. Ever wondered why there is nothing about teenager Jesus? Nah, I'm sure you just eat what they feed you, thinking is bad, question nothing. But you'd be surprised to find out the answer.
Btw, slavery and selling daughters was the jews not christians. It was never a teaching either outside of how to behave when doing it.
Whatever makes you feel better for these great "holy scriptures", source of objective moral to man.
You do know that Jesus was a jew right?
It is pretty clear I know more about Christianity than you do.
Jesus might very well blow bin ladens head off with lasers.
Thank you for illustrating my point, which was that Jesus freaks are [amongst] the most blood-thirsty motherfuckers. You can't see the hypocrisy because you unquestioningly accept your "teachings" -- that's faith after all.
The Christian religions are based on a pick-and-choose approach... whatever is more convenient at the moment there is a "holy scripture" to support it. Seems slavery and selling your own daughters are out of fashion, though.
Can you explain to me about not supposed to be murdering [...]?
No, of course I can't. Because it doesn't make sense. Like when Yahweh commands a bear to kill children because they made fun of a bald guy... sounds totally reasonable, right? And then Jesus comes and say to love your enemies, to turn the other cheek, etc. and that rich people were not likely to enter heaven (best selling point to the Tea Party, right?) What would Jesus do? Totally blow the head off of Bin Laden, with lasers!!!
And that would not be murder, it would be just killing, because Jesus.
Without that fair trial, he was a not-guilty man and shooting him was murder.
FTFY. Too bad the constitution has been used as toilet paper nowadays. And the Jesus freaks, the ones that should be trying to enforce their "god's command" to not murder, are the most blood-thirsty motherfuckers. Hypocrisy FTW!
I just picked that comment because it said "thru [sic] ssl", and I interpreted as "breaking DH" or something. But I was referring to a somewhat spread sentiment that breaking encryption is just a matter of developing technique, which may not be the case (hence my sarcastic reference to the halting problem & Godel's incompleteness theorem).
Like this post above:
The issue is not whether they can brute force encryption.
We already assume they have the capability of brute forcing all encryption within a reasonable time frame. Something hilariously well protected? 3-6 months.
I love how so many people here are so sure the NSA can do magic on encryption... it's like complexity doesn't exist. They can solve any problem expressible in a general formal system! Halting problem? Fuck the halting problem, that's like stealing candy from a child.
NSA - the Chuck Norris of the agencies.
My brother would donate.
Interesting, I think it is the first time I see a link to copyright infringing material here. Will it be deleted?
Your scenario has nothing to do with war or weaponized robots. Except the population may get out of control and be "pacified" by robots with guns.
Of course I agree you should *defend* yourself. Becoming a slave is not a good outcome for you. But that was not my point.
You can educate and help others create their own wealth, and even get a fair share of the profits (not the wealth-sucking policy that corporations currently have, though). If you do that, the probable outcome will be grateful people that contribute back to society. [Ok, it is more complex than that, in parallel there should be great pressure to dismantle theocracies, among other things. But this can be achieved through diplomacy.]
If you just bomb the fuck out of everyone, with complete disregard for innocent civilians (the outraging "signature strikes"), don't expect anything else than a "terrorist factory" as outcome. [But hey, that's the point, isn't it? If you create more "terrorists" you can sell more multi-million bombs to kill them.]
I agree, it is immoral no matter what use. We should invest in technology to *avoid* wars, not to fight them better. Too bad the greedy people behind the military industrial complex are already making too much money to realize that there is money to be made in the peaceful way of doing things as well.
I wouldn't be so worried if the mind behind the controls were a completely autonomous AI... actions against innocent people would probably be caused by some pattern matching glitch or whatever.
But with humans on command, the probability of it being used with malicious intent is much higher. You frogs are getting worried about the water temperature, with lots of local police forces getting militarized and stuff... get ready for when these babies start to get deployed locally, to "defend you against the terrorists."
I think the notion that CP somehow extinguishes a fire in a pedo, preventing harm, is groundless.
How can you be so sure?
It goes against common sense
Come on, common sense only goes so far... should we kill the witch because she does/doesn't float? Some centuries ago the common sense answer would be "kill her either way".
and 60+ years of pr0n research.
Would you care to point me to this research?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. my claim is reasonable and rooted in the common human experience. it is prima facae true.
Sure, your claim is reasonable, but I'm not so sure it is true. I didn't claim anything, I just raised a question, which is reasonable as well, not extraordinary at all.
I wonder how many of children are spared of abuse because the pervs had their impulses shunned by porn. Imagine if one day we discover that potential serial killers didn't act in the real world because they could express their anger / sadism / whatever in a virtual world, like in first person shooters.
I'm not trying to defend anything, just some food for thought.
But putting people in jail for smoking a plant while leaving schoolchildren hungry at night is an utter disgrace.
I couldn't agree more.
Worth noticing that the availability of thorium is around 10 times more frequent than uranium, and liquid thorium reactors do not suffer from "melt downs".
You lost an excellent opportunity to not show your ignorance.
Donald Sadoway: The missing link to renewable energy.
Some months ago there was a TED talk about molten salt batteries. How do they compare with lead-acid and lithium-ion?
Interesting. Thank you for the info.
I'm not familiar with UDT as well, but coincidentally, I'm about to design/implement a protocol that has to work over UDP, for hole-punching (it is a p2p application). I haven't decided yet if the dependency on UDT is justified, and I wasn't aware of QUIC.
So if you could include UDT in future benchmarks, I would appreciate. Btw, thanx for the work so far.