Good; they aren't posts, they're exploits. Low-impact exploits, but exploits just the same.
Nuke the post, bitch-slap the user to -5 karma, and if he does it a second time change his password to a 32-character random string so he can't ever use his old handle again.
Perhaps Moderation (and even Meta-Moderation) should be limited to a secret cabal who actually have demonstrated Open Source credentials rather than just posers (like me!). A lot of people would scream that this is unfair, but I don't see anything wrong with assuring that this place's editorial policy stays consistent over time.
The problem is, that'd do the opposite.
Right now, there's a very large pool of moderators, and bad ones are drowned out in a sea of meta-moderation. (And if you meta-moderate, you will have noticed that it went from 90% bad moderation to 90+% good moderation over a few short months).
If your plan were implemented, you'd go to a much smaller pool of moderators, and many of them would be people who have demonstrated that they're much better at writing good code than they are at being impartial moderators.
Some of 'em engage in flames in every online discussion in which they participate, and some of 'em are over-responders, engaging in protracted threads in which they respond to every post made on a subject, abusing +1 bonuses the whole way (if they have them).
Do you want those guys being a significant fraction of the moderators? I can think of one Open Source coding god who can barely keep positive karma. I've moderated him down a time or two myself.
Recent: I wanted to use a few Sun Java libraries in writing a GPL'd frontend for an IMAP client. RMS told me this was not allowed -- even dynamic linking is covered by the GPL.
RMS wishes that he'd worded it that way, but he didn't, and you shouldn't let him bludgeon you into not writing good software just because the particular tools you want aren't available under his license.
This is incorrect. Gutenberg only has public domain texts, and Bradbury's "Martian Chronicles" is not public domain; I believe Random House currently has the rights, or at least had them last.
You are perhaps thinking of Edgar Rice Burroughs' "John Carter, Warlord of Mars" series, which is public domain and is carried by Gutenberg (at least some of the books, I'm not certain if the whole series is there.)
Although the first Science Fiction I ever read was a collection of short stories intended for adolescents, which may have been entitled "Way Out!", the first actual novel I remember reading was Ray Bradbury's "Martian Chronicles".
It's a collection of unrelated and loosely-related short stories and novellas about mankind's initial exploration of, colonization of, and eventual abandonment of Mars.
I also find myself often re-reading E.E. "Doc" Smith's Lensmen series, which is currently available from the Science Fiction Book Club in a two-volume set that I highly recommend.
I for one prefer turn-based games over all the newfangled realtime stuff.
Give me Space Empires III (didn't work with the last WINE I tried, although I'll be trying it again soon and often until it does work.)
Give me Chaos Gate, and give it to me with source code! (The publisher gave up on it even though there is a large, and growing, body of players who would like to see extensions, and is raring to start coding them ourselves.)
It is precisely because of the fact that there is no virus-scanning software for Linux (for DOS/Win16/Win32 viruses) that many otherwise clueful PHBs will not adopt it.
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I for one appreciate your modifications and enthusiasm in sharing them, and if I had moderator points I'd even give ya one right now, but I gotta say, I think that in general it'd be better to put a diff file out on the web somewhere and post a link; no reason why the whole thing should take up space on Slashdot's hard drives, and no reason why it should use up bandwidth every time somebody views the page.
For a good science fiction story that explores this, try Greg Egan's "Diaspora".
He refers to the mass migration of humanity into software (some of them into pure computer existence, some into robot bodies) as an "Introdus".
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Sun doesn't make money off x86 Solaris. It's there just to keep their customers homogenous.
Sun's problem is that they want to ride the Free Software revolution, but can't get it through their heads that Free Beer is a secondary (or tertiary) consideration in their market; Free Speech is a primary consideration.
Also, I can't think of any justification for their $30 price tag other than "discourage casual users from participating".
If they just opened the damn source for real, Cheapbytes would run the damn things out the door for $5, and a lot more folks would be using it. That can't help but drive Sun hardware sales, which drives support services, which is where they make their money.
I wonder if they'll manage to actually be the LAST to catch this clue, after even Microsoft.
Is it just me, or is anybody else scared that the folks responsible for the HP/UX bastardization of SysV print configuration are "improving" Linux printing?
What, do you think that prior to this product announcement, it was impossible to track you around by your cell phone?
We can't have it both ways, folks; if we want to have the freedom to do whatever we want with any radio transmission we pick up, then we cannot say that the government shouldn't be able to do the same.
If you don't want to be tracked, don't broadcast.
If you want to broadcast, resign yourself to the fact that you can be tracked.
Does Clinton want to be known for having started a second Manhattan project (I suppose it is a lot better than what he will most likely be known for)?
If your position is that we shouldn't explore something that's dangerous, you picked a piss-poor example in the Manhattan project.
If the US hadn't poured a whole bunch of money into that project in a hell of hurry, somebody else would have gotten it first, and the world would be in way worse shape than it presently is.
You can't fight something unless you understand it, and you can't fully understand it unless you can build it from scratch.
If you're not old enough to enter into a contract, you have no license to distribute GPL'ed code.
Technically, you're violating the authors' copyrights if you do so without an adult agreeing to the license for you.
I suppose that means if the parent of some contributor expresses disagreement with the license, we'll have to yank their code out whichever products it's in.:-)
Jeez, if those Techweb numbers are correct (4 watts consumption equals 8 hours battery life, DVD-playing only uses 1-3 watts, email is 10 to 20 milliwatts), then we're looking at a scenario where you leave your laptop on 24/7, recharge it overnight, and go all day long without ever shutting it off.
Take it everywhere, always on. Shut the screen off to save power.
Jeezus.
Combine this with wireless networking. Make it wearable. Recharge while I sleep. Wow.
Perhaps all the folks who were predicting Red Hat would become bad corporate citizens after their IPO, and then shifted their predictions of doom and gloom to VA when they announced theirs, will take note of this project.
VA, I applaud you for giving back to the community in such a big way; but I never doubted you would for a second. Thanks, guys.
Pathost aliasing is usually associated with passive UDP, and this is explicitly an active UDP.
Yes, messages do indeed get "actively deleted" off other servers.
That's not, as you called it, "a gaping security hole". It's the normal default functionality of most news server software. You have to explicitly remove that functionality for it to not be there, with most commonly-used news servers.
Good; they aren't posts, they're exploits. Low-impact exploits, but exploits just the same.
Nuke the post, bitch-slap the user to -5 karma, and if he does it a second time change his password to a 32-character random string so he can't ever use his old handle again.
Nope. Haven't noticed a single one of them.
Try reading at a rational moderation level, such as "2".
actually this is the best place to start.
Why? The primary recommendation of that link is to go out and buy the book I linked.
Would you prefer a Fatbrain link instead?
The primary things they're missing which would make them like Motif are:
1) Massive memory footprint.
2) Unexplainable interface lockups and "bus errors".
3) High price.
4) Closed source code.
If we can just fix those problems with Qt and GTK, we can be just like Motif!
And then, we can get started on making KDE and GNOME just like CDE. I suggest a global insertion of delay loops into every function as a good start.
They have larger Sun boxes as well.
Perhaps Moderation (and even Meta-Moderation) should be limited to a secret cabal who actually have demonstrated Open Source credentials rather than just posers (like me!). A lot of people would scream that this is unfair, but I don't see anything wrong with assuring that this place's editorial policy stays consistent over time.
The problem is, that'd do the opposite.
Right now, there's a very large pool of moderators, and bad ones are drowned out in a sea of meta-moderation. (And if you meta-moderate, you will have noticed that it went from 90% bad moderation to 90+% good moderation over a few short months).
If your plan were implemented, you'd go to a much smaller pool of moderators, and many of them would be people who have demonstrated that they're much better at writing good code than they are at being impartial moderators.
Some of 'em engage in flames in every online discussion in which they participate, and some of 'em are over-responders, engaging in protracted threads in which they respond to every post made on a subject, abusing +1 bonuses the whole way (if they have them).
Do you want those guys being a significant fraction of the moderators? I can think of one Open Source coding god who can barely keep positive karma. I've moderated him down a time or two myself.
Recent: I wanted to use a few Sun Java libraries in writing a GPL'd frontend for an IMAP client. RMS told me this was not allowed -- even
dynamic linking is covered by the GPL.
RMS wishes that he'd worded it that way, but he didn't, and you shouldn't let him bludgeon you into not writing good software just because the particular tools you want aren't available under his license.
If you have some device that isn't supported, why not either write a driver for it (IF you know how to do so, of course),
Hell, write one even if you *DON'T* know how. You'll learn a shitload.
Start here:
Linux Device Drivers
This is incorrect. Gutenberg only has public domain texts, and Bradbury's "Martian Chronicles" is not public domain; I believe Random House currently has the rights, or at least had them last.
You are perhaps thinking of Edgar Rice Burroughs' "John Carter, Warlord of Mars" series, which is public domain and is carried by Gutenberg (at least some of the books, I'm not certain if the whole series is there.)
Although the first Science Fiction I ever read was a collection of short stories intended for adolescents, which may have been entitled "Way Out!", the first actual novel I remember reading was Ray Bradbury's "Martian Chronicles".
It's a collection of unrelated and loosely-related short stories and novellas about mankind's initial exploration of, colonization of, and eventual abandonment of Mars.
I also find myself often re-reading E.E. "Doc" Smith's Lensmen series, which is currently available from the Science Fiction Book Club in a two-volume set that I highly recommend.
I for one prefer turn-based games over all the newfangled realtime stuff.
Give me Space Empires III (didn't work with the last WINE I tried, although I'll be trying it again soon and often until it does work.)
Give me Chaos Gate, and give it to me with source code! (The publisher gave up on it even though there is a large, and growing, body of players who would like to see extensions, and is raring to start coding them ourselves.)
Give me X-Com: UFO Defense and derivitives.
It is precisely because of the fact that there is no virus-scanning software for Linux (for DOS/Win16/Win32 viruses) that many otherwise clueful PHBs will not adopt it.
Except that's *NOT* a fact:
Sophos Anti-virus
Datafellow's F-Secure for Linux
And that's just the two *I* know of.
I for one appreciate your modifications and enthusiasm in sharing them, and if I had moderator points I'd even give ya one right now, but I gotta say, I think that in general it'd be better to put a diff file out on the web somewhere and post a link; no reason why the whole thing should take up space on Slashdot's hard drives, and no reason why it should use up bandwidth every time somebody views the page.
Hmm, a large, stable object already in Earth orbit.
Now where would we find something like that?
Too bad it'd be beyond our technology to get there.
For a good science fiction story that explores this, try Greg Egan's "Diaspora".
He refers to the mass migration of humanity into software (some of them into pure computer existence, some into robot bodies) as an "Introdus".
Sun doesn't make money off x86 Solaris. It's there just to keep their customers homogenous.
Sun's problem is that they want to ride the Free Software revolution, but can't get it through their heads that Free Beer is a secondary (or tertiary) consideration in their market; Free Speech is a primary consideration.
Also, I can't think of any justification for their $30 price tag other than "discourage casual users from participating".
If they just opened the damn source for real, Cheapbytes would run the damn things out the door for $5, and a lot more folks would be using it. That can't help but drive Sun hardware sales, which drives support services, which is where they make their money.
I wonder if they'll manage to actually be the LAST to catch this clue, after even Microsoft.
Is it just me, or is anybody else scared that the folks responsible for the HP/UX bastardization of SysV print configuration are "improving" Linux printing?
Rob, I submitted the same story with a whole lot more useful links and detail in it.
If you wanted to post it yourself, that's fine; but at least include the links, to make the story more useful to folks.
What, do you think that prior to this product announcement, it was impossible to track you around by your cell phone?
We can't have it both ways, folks; if we want to have the freedom to do whatever we want with any radio transmission we pick up, then we cannot say that the government shouldn't be able to do the same.
If you don't want to be tracked, don't broadcast.
If you want to broadcast, resign yourself to the fact that you can be tracked.
Does Clinton want to be known for having started a second Manhattan project (I suppose it is a lot better than what he will most likely be known for)?
If your position is that we shouldn't explore something that's dangerous, you picked a piss-poor example in the Manhattan project.
If the US hadn't poured a whole bunch of money into that project in a hell of hurry, somebody else would have gotten it first, and the world would be in way worse shape than it presently is.
You can't fight something unless you understand it, and you can't fully understand it unless you can build it from scratch.
Interesting point, perhaps, but invalid point.
:-)
If you're not old enough to enter into a contract, you have no license to distribute GPL'ed code.
Technically, you're violating the authors' copyrights if you do so without an adult agreeing to the license for you.
I suppose that means if the parent of some contributor expresses disagreement with the license, we'll have to yank their code out whichever products it's in.
If you don't know what you're doing, don't start doing it yet.
That's a universal rule of any public forum, whether it be Usenet, Fidonet, Slashdot, or butting into a large conversation at a party.
BTW, if you set for "plain old text" you won't have to worry about formatting markup; WYSIWYT. (What You See Is What You Typed.)
Jeez, if those Techweb numbers are correct (4 watts consumption equals 8 hours battery life, DVD-playing only uses 1-3 watts, email is 10 to 20 milliwatts), then we're looking at a scenario where you leave your laptop on 24/7, recharge it overnight, and go all day long without ever shutting it off.
Take it everywhere, always on. Shut the screen off to save power.
Jeezus.
Combine this with wireless networking. Make it wearable. Recharge while I sleep. Wow.
Perhaps all the folks who were predicting Red Hat would become bad corporate citizens after their IPO, and then shifted their predictions of doom and gloom to VA when they announced theirs, will take note of this project.
VA, I applaud you for giving back to the community in such a big way; but I never doubted you would for a second. Thanks, guys.
Flux, do you even know what an active UDP is?
Read the FAQ:
http://www.stopspam.org/usenet/faqs/udp. html
Pathost aliasing is usually associated with passive UDP, and this is explicitly an active UDP.
Yes, messages do indeed get "actively deleted" off other servers.
That's not, as you called it, "a gaping security hole". It's the normal default functionality of most news server software. You have to explicitly remove that functionality for it to not be there, with most commonly-used news servers.
You might want to read this faq, as well:
http://www.landfield.com/faqs/ usenet/cancel-faq/part1/