There are *hundreds* of stocks that will blow away any gains Corel will make this year
Then you should be buying a little of all of them.
...the only reason you would buy that stock is for purely sentimental reasons.
Or because you follow a long-term investment strategy like Motley Fool proposes. Of course, if you want to play stocks like gambling instead of like an investment, you can go for risky short-term gains like you seem to advocate.
Buy stocks of proven companies that make products you understand. Keep those stocks for a long time. Buy lots of different stocks instead of lots of one stock.
Do all that and you'll come out OKAY while people like Cassius are begging for spare quarters.
How many times do we have to answer this same effing question?
WHEN IT'S READY, AND NOT ONE PICOSECOND BEFORE.
At least one lamer asks this question for EACH pre release. When will you folks get the point?
BTW, "ready" means "when Linus Torvalds and Alan Cox think it's ready, announce that they think it's ready, and don't get any credible flames from the developers list".
Oh; and an equally credible answer is "it's ready now, use it and shut up yer whining".
No offense, but if I had to settle on one version of Unix, there are 3 possibilities that come to mind: Solaris, BSD or Linux - after some reflection on current trends, I'd say Linux would be a very reasonable choice.
Unless you're not interested in working for somebody else, you're nuts to restrict yourself to one Unix, and even more nuts to pick Linux.
I know Linux is the best, and you know Linux is the best, but the PHB who's going to sign your paychecks probably doesn't know any such thing.
Linux is largely BSD-like, with System V init, but that doesn't mean squat.
The real world runs on things like Solaris (System V), SCO (ancient System V), HP-UX (System V with inits that range from pathological to arcane, including one version that tries to simulate BSD init), etc.
Linux is a place where you can learn some fundamentals of Unix use and administration, but if that's all you've got experience with you better either get a rich uncle to bankroll you starting an ISP, or give up on working in Unix.
Do your career a favor and spend $10 on Sun's "free" CD of Solaris, or SCO's similar offers.
Set up FreeBSD or OpenBSD and make it do the same things you do with your Linux box.
I work on Solaris every day now, and I still have old BSD reflexes biting me in the ass, plus shell scripts that don't do what I expect because I'm thinking tcsh or bash instead of ksh.
Linux is growing faster than any other Unix, that's absolutely true.
It may continue to overtake them. That's an opinion, but I consider it likely.
But the other stuff is gonna be around for a long time, and right now it's where the jobs are. That won't change for a while.
One other post mentions people skills; I don't know how important this is in a large company, but in a 20 person ISP as long as you didn't spit at the people on the phone you were fine. Not screwing up was to a large degree more important
That may be the general case, but it's certainly not always so. I've been an admin at two seperate places where people skills were far more important than competence.
Each of those places now has an administrator who is less competant than I am, but has better people skills.
One of them was willing to spend thousands of dollars to send everybody to a Dale Carnegie human relations course, but not to get them appropriate OS certifications.
People skills are vital unless you want to work in startup ISPs the rest of your life, and important even then.
The good news is that it's easier to improve people skills than technical skills. It just seems harder for us propellerheads.
Try not to get too frustrated, and pick up a hobby that has nothing whatsoever to do with computers.
Be careful about falling into "the golf trap".
You see, golf is a great hobby for sysadmins because it's totally unrelated, it consumes a lot of time, it can be stopped at any point if you get paged, and it gets your slacker ass out in the sunlight.
However, you have to resist the temptation to use it to schmooze the executives, because they're all a hell of a lot better at it than you are and you'll annoy the piss out of them if you slow them down.
That's the golf trap; you mistakenly think you can use it as "networking" time with the PHBs, and then they decide to fire you and hire a new admin who's better at golf.:-)
Forget certifications. Forget degree. They both can help you make more money, but they aren't necessary per se and they aren't what's going to get you that first UNIX job.
What you need to do is be prepared to come in from the bottom. You will not start out as an administrator, but you can get a job where you can learn the needed skills and demonstrate them.
I did UNIX as a necessity (in school), then as a hobby, then started out right at the top, but it took me many more years of UNIX as a necessity and hobby than it would have taken if I'd started at the bottom and worked up, and I'd have gotten paid for it during that time.
Yes, eat sleep and breathe Linux at home, that will definately help. Especially if you break it a lot and fix it yourself without a lot of help from IRC and Usenet.
But go find a job where you USE UNIX, but don't have to administrate it.
A lot of large companies have openings in jobs that only require very basic UNIX skills. This allows you to learn UNIX, and demonstrate that you know it. It also puts that magic word UNIX on your resume, which lets you jump up at the next job. Look for "system operator" positions and the like. Experience as a lab assistant in your university counts for more than getting the degree.
Small start-up ISPs are a good place to get this experience, too. They often need tech support monkeys, and if you demonstrate that you know UNIX you will get a shot at the next admin opening when they grow.
Ideally, you want to get into a company that uses a commercial UNIX and will send you for training. While you're at it you can go ahead and pick up those Sun certifications or whatever, so that the next job will pay you a little more. BTW, in my experience the myth that getting a cert gets you more money at your present job is bullshit.
Some larger ISPs will pay you to get training and certification, but they won't hire you in the first place unless you've got experience. So be prepared to climb the ladder from the very bottom, and you can be administrating UNIX for a living in a few years.
Well Let's see you have 700,000,000 bytes per day, 86,400 seconds per day, and 8 bits per byte so by my calculations you would need a 64,810 bps connection to move that much information.
Problem is, it wasn't 700MB; it was 700GB.
Almost three times faster compiling!
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You do realize that you can configure that, right?
Just because it makes it on the news doesn't mean it's true. Newspeople are people just like you and me, but probably not as smart.
BTW, a friend of mine concocts hoaxes purporting to be insider information on Star Trek projects. More than one has made it into various news outlets. We're especially proud of one project that made it into Australian newspapers as "true" information.
[RANT MODE ON] Regardless of what you bunch of anonymous lamers think, the man has a point.
Nobody bothers to look anything up on a fucking search site any more, they fire up Free Agent or mIRC and bother people with stupid questions.
90% of the time those questions are answered by a man page, a HOWTO, or/usr/doc/packagename.
9% of the time you can find an answer after a couple of minutes on the search engines.
That other 1% of the time are the only questions that people should be wasting my time with in IRC or Usenet, or here on/.
If you can't be bothered to RTFM, you shouldn't be using Linux, plain and simple. It's the best-documented operating system in the history of mankind, so RTFM or FOAD.
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There are *hundreds* of stocks that will blow away any gains Corel will make this year
...the only reason you would buy that stock is for purely sentimental reasons.
Then you should be buying a little of all of them.
Or because you follow a long-term investment strategy like Motley Fool proposes. Of course, if you want to play stocks like gambling instead of like an investment, you can go for risky short-term gains like you seem to advocate.
Buy stocks of proven companies that make products you understand. Keep those stocks for a long time. Buy lots of different stocks instead of lots of one stock.
Do all that and you'll come out OKAY while people like Cassius are begging for spare quarters.
How many times do we have to answer this same effing question?
WHEN IT'S READY, AND NOT ONE PICOSECOND BEFORE.
At least one lamer asks this question for EACH pre release. When will you folks get the point?
BTW, "ready" means "when Linus Torvalds and Alan Cox think it's ready, announce that they think it's ready, and don't get any credible flames from the developers list".
Oh; and an equally credible answer is "it's ready now, use it and shut up yer whining".
No offense, but if I had to settle on one version of Unix, there are 3 possibilities that come to mind: Solaris, BSD or Linux - after some reflection on current trends, I'd say Linux would be a very reasonable choice.
Unless you're not interested in working for somebody else, you're nuts to restrict yourself to one Unix, and even more nuts to pick Linux.
I know Linux is the best, and you know Linux is the best, but the PHB who's going to sign your paychecks probably doesn't know any such thing.
Linux is largely BSD-like, with System V init, but that doesn't mean squat.
The real world runs on things like Solaris (System V), SCO (ancient System V), HP-UX (System V with inits that range from pathological to arcane, including one version that tries to simulate BSD init), etc.
Linux is a place where you can learn some fundamentals of Unix use and administration, but if that's all you've got experience with you better either get a rich uncle to bankroll you starting an ISP, or give up on working in Unix.
Do your career a favor and spend $10 on Sun's "free" CD of Solaris, or SCO's similar offers.
Set up FreeBSD or OpenBSD and make it do the same things you do with your Linux box.
I work on Solaris every day now, and I still have old BSD reflexes biting me in the ass, plus shell scripts that don't do what I expect because I'm thinking tcsh or bash instead of ksh.
Linux is growing faster than any other Unix, that's absolutely true.
It may continue to overtake them. That's an opinion, but I consider it likely.
But the other stuff is gonna be around for a long time, and right now it's where the jobs are. That won't change for a while.
One other post mentions people skills; I don't know how important this is in a large company, but in a 20 person ISP as long as you didn't spit at the people on the phone you were fine. Not screwing up was to a large degree more important
That may be the general case, but it's certainly not always so. I've been an admin at two seperate places where people skills were far more important than competence.
Each of those places now has an administrator who is less competant than I am, but has better people skills.
One of them was willing to spend thousands of dollars to send everybody to a Dale Carnegie human relations course, but not to get them appropriate OS certifications.
People skills are vital unless you want to work in startup ISPs the rest of your life, and important even then.
The good news is that it's easier to improve people skills than technical skills. It just seems harder for us propellerheads.
Try not to get too frustrated, and pick up a hobby that has nothing whatsoever to do with computers.
:-)
Be careful about falling into "the golf trap".
You see, golf is a great hobby for sysadmins because it's totally unrelated, it consumes a lot of time, it can be stopped at any point if you get paged, and it gets your slacker ass out in the sunlight.
However, you have to resist the temptation to use it to schmooze the executives, because they're all a hell of a lot better at it than you are and you'll annoy the piss out of them if you slow them down.
That's the golf trap; you mistakenly think you can use it as "networking" time with the PHBs, and then they decide to fire you and hire a new admin who's better at golf.
Forget certifications. Forget degree. They both can help you make more money, but they aren't necessary per se and they aren't what's going to get you that first UNIX job.
What you need to do is be prepared to come in from the bottom. You will not start out as an administrator, but you can get a job where you can learn the needed skills and demonstrate them.
I did UNIX as a necessity (in school), then as a hobby, then started out right at the top, but it took me many more years of UNIX as a necessity and hobby than it would have taken if I'd started at the bottom and worked up, and I'd have gotten paid for it during that time.
Yes, eat sleep and breathe Linux at home, that will definately help. Especially if you break it a lot and fix it yourself without a lot of help from IRC and Usenet.
But go find a job where you USE UNIX, but don't have to administrate it.
A lot of large companies have openings in jobs that only require very basic UNIX skills. This allows you to learn UNIX, and demonstrate that you know it. It also puts that magic word UNIX on your resume, which lets you jump up at the next job. Look for "system operator" positions and the like. Experience as a lab assistant in your university counts for more than getting the degree.
Small start-up ISPs are a good place to get this experience, too. They often need tech support monkeys, and if you demonstrate that you know UNIX you will get a shot at the next admin opening when they grow.
Ideally, you want to get into a company that uses a commercial UNIX and will send you for training. While you're at it you can go ahead and pick up those Sun certifications or whatever, so that the next job will pay you a little more. BTW, in my experience the myth that getting a cert gets you more money at your present job is bullshit.
Some larger ISPs will pay you to get training and certification, but they won't hire you in the first place unless you've got experience. So be prepared to climb the ladder from the very bottom, and you can be administrating UNIX for a living in a few years.
And I don't think I'm alone in this.
I've even heard rumors Transmeta might be looking along these lines.
Well Let's see you have 700,000,000 bytes per day, 86,400 seconds per day, and 8 bits per byte so by my calculations you would need a 64,810 bps connection to move that much information.
Problem is, it wasn't 700MB; it was 700GB.
You do realize that you can configure that, right?
That's right; it's contraction of "open source" and "successful".
It's true, it WAS on TV news for a while.
Just because it makes it on the news doesn't mean it's true. Newspeople are people just like you and me, but probably not as smart.
BTW, a friend of mine concocts hoaxes purporting to be insider information on Star Trek projects. More than one has made it into various news outlets. We're especially proud of one project that made it into Australian newspapers as "true" information.
I got into ftp.kernel.org!!! Woohoo!!
Then you're part of the fucking problem, asshole.
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/usr/doc/packagename.
/.
Regardless of what you bunch of anonymous lamers think, the man has a point.
Nobody bothers to look anything up on a fucking search site any more, they fire up Free Agent or mIRC and bother people with stupid questions.
90% of the time those questions are answered by a man page, a HOWTO, or
9% of the time you can find an answer after a couple of minutes on the search engines.
That other 1% of the time are the only questions that people should be wasting my time with in IRC or Usenet, or here on
If you can't be bothered to RTFM, you shouldn't be using Linux, plain and simple. It's the best-documented operating system in the history of mankind, so RTFM or FOAD.
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I hated it for about 10 seconds, and the thought of flaming him over it would never have occured to me.
If I'd still hated it after those 10 seconds, I'd have just removed my bookmark and not gone back.
Everybody who flamed Scoop needs to get a fucking life.
Scoop, I suggest you filter the IPs of anybody who flamed you. If they don't like it, they can start their own goddamn site.
I'm not gonna read any replies to this.