I said this on another topic, but I'll sayit again. I think everyone should read the James Halperin book, "The First Immortal", about a man who is undergoes cryonic freezing, and is then re-animated years later when nanotech is common. Basically Halperin says that everyone's lifespan will soon be measured in centuries or even millenias. All because of nanotech. Sounds good to me. Halperin doesn't really address population, although he does mention that people are living at other places in the solar system. My own idea is that maybe we could have everyone who wants to use nanotech or cryonic freezing sign a contract to not have more than 1 child(maybe 2). This way we could slow population growth and eventually it would hopefully plateau. However, the population would still be far, far higher than 6 billion even if every family has only 2 children, b/c of the increased lifespan.
I refuse to even address most of the paranoid delusions you wrote of in your post. However:
"Do these people with an IQ below 70 deserve to pass on their crippled genes for another thousand years or so? Do these people even deserve to live? I think not."
This is just pathetic and sickens me. Is it these people's fault that they are unintelligent? Should they be punished because of some freak accident or because genes lined up the wrong way? Now I do think that we should try, as humanely as possible, to stop problems like this, but I also think we should stop problems like near-sightedness. This doesn't mean I would go around in some Pol-Potesque manner, killing everyone who wears glasses. But it might be possible to stop those genes from being passed down(without stopping people with glasses, like me, from having children). Do you want some society like Gattaca? I know I don't. I think it would be great if we could eliminate retardation and many other genetic problems, but not at the cost of liberty for those involved.
"True, but if you could make bacteria-sized Turing machines from scratch, you could design their external surfaces to either be non-immunogenic (the biological equivalent of teflon), or make them able to detect and remove or destroy any antibodies that bind to them"
Well it'd be nice to have these things, but I'd rather they come up with a better way to stop rejection than killing my antibodies.
The company didn't say that the PC is 60,000 times faster, the "hypercomputer" is. The PC does 100 billion ops/sec(BTW, how fast is this really, realtive to a 500MHZ P3 or G3?)
What they said was that - they will have a HAL Jr, that will fit in a suitcase, and will do 640 billion ops/sec -they've "mapped out a series of hypercomputer systems, ranging in performance from the HAL-10GrW1, capable of conducting 10 billion floating-point operations per second, to aHAL-100TrW1, which conducts 100 trillion floating point operations per second"
Meaning: the supercomputer will eventually go up to 100 trillion ops/sec, the but the PC is only 100 billion
Now, as I said, could some tell me how much faster 100 billion a second is than a computer today? But I'm going to try to figure it out w/o really knowing.
If I assume the 100 trillion one is the one that's 60,000 times faster than today's computer, then would the 100 billion one be 60 times faster? If they can release something 60 times faster than a P2 450 in 18 months that would still be damn good, IMHO.
China isn't going to become a superpower like the US anytime soon. Why? Because the supress freedom of press and speech there, which is not going to help people become more educated. They also have way too many people, it can be helpful at times, but overall it will be a burden. Related to the no free press/speech is that many of the smart people there come to the US to go to college and then stay here because they like us better. Also their military sucks, they basically have a lot of people and some shitty old crap they bought from the USSR. It'll take a long time to revamp it, and the only way they can get better stuff is to steal it from us.
Russia? First, how are they going to pull their country out of economic ruin? Second, the only reason anyone cares about Russia is that they usd to be a superpower and still have lots of nukes. They are really just a junky broke country with corrupt and stupid leaders.
And what does "retaliates in ways that your ordinary american can even dream off" mean? Retaliates for what? All the aid we've sent them? For still letting them feel like they're a big boy country just because they have nukes and some remanants of an armed forces? And what way couldn't an ordinary American dream of? And why would they wait till their economy is OK to do this? Any military attack from Russia would mean no more Russia. And some other type of retaliation? Why don't you enlighten me.
"The American society is arrogant, poorly-educated, knows very litle about history, is very easly influenced, manipulated and brainwashed." And this is different from the people in other countries how?
Yeah my ass. Maybe Willamette. The G4 too, I bet. And I guess the K7. But Merced won't be in a machine costing $1200 any time soon. And I wonder, when were these policies introduced? Even making it 6 times what it is now will be a very temporary solution.
That fool is none other than DOn Crabb, who I believe has said this before. He's also said many other stupiud shit things and thinks he can tell Apple to do whatever he wants. He's full of shit but he just keeps popping up on one crappy site after another. Damn.
The "He was the last, best hope for peace" is verbatim I think. The "I tried to save him" is maybe not eaxct, but it's close. I haven't seen Babylon 5, so I don't knwo what you're referring to, but that quote was right.
I realize your arguements have merit, but we really just have to assume(hope) that 1) there are a bunch of civilizations out there 2) since whatever they do, fundamental laws of science should be the same, they would have radio
Now we are making some assumptions, but don't we have to try? Would it be better to just forget about looking for ET life? The thing is, even though the chances are low(or maybe not low, we can't be sure), the gains from even finding life somewhere like Mars would be enormous, the gains from being able to contact an intelligent ET lifeform would very possibly be the biggest event in human history. What if there was some lifeform trasmitting out vast amounts of knowledge so we picked up something like a big reference book. Who knows how many years it would advance human science? Tens? Doubtful. Hundreds? More likely. Over one thousand? Definitely possible.
To not conduct this search would be doing a disservice to the human race.
"It's a pretty safe bet that your Powerbook won't be able to uplink with the mothership."
I don't know, Jeff Goldblum was even able to write a virus, imagine that. It seems that aliens use the MacOS.
Always good advice. I read "Billion and Billions" a while back and I though it was so good that I recently read "Contact", "Cosmos", "Broca's Brain", and am now on "The Demon-Haunted World". It's very interesting stuff, even though he sometimes loses me on the physics(still in HS and haven't taken Physics yet).
very good, except that if ET was phoning us in a different part of the spectrum we're still screwed, b/c we just checked a small part of the spectrum over and over again
No, I have completed a bunch of data blocks and as far as I can remember every single one has been from Jan 8. Is it a good idea to have 500,000 people doing the work of 50? It's absurd and SETI should tell us what's going on.
I was going to say something about that too, but I figured I was just stupid. That is very odd, I wonder why they keep doing that, it's really pointless. If they just continue this w/o an explanation I'm just going to stop processing data until they fix this problem. Very strange.
The MacAddict team actually has more members, but the Mac cleint sucks and I think many/.ers contribute more CPU time than the average MacAddict member.
Anyone know if there are so many people doing this that there's not going to be enough data? Now that would be awesome. Let's think: 35Gb of data per day from Arecibo. Each block is 250k(maybe more, but that's what I'll call it). so 35000 4 = 140,000 blocks/day. There are at least 350,000-400,000 people running this. So means if everyone complete about 1 block every 2-2.5 days, we'll be able to process the data faster than they get it.
IIRC, the book was Broca's Brain(though I just read both of them one after the other, so I could be wrong).
And Sagan actually did show some equations to show how wrong Velikovsky was very wrong(his ideas seemed to be trying to scientifically prove Biblical stories).
But, point is, yes. Sagan was very against the treatment Velikovsky got. I think Sagan actually got a confrence or something set up just so both sides could present their arguements.
That's not part of the press release, that's new.com's little addition. And they're probably so fucking dumb that they think that 2.5 gigabits == 2.5 gigabytes
The fact that we can't do it now doesn't mean we can't do it with a new technology soon. Also, didn't you see that story a while back that Siemens or some comapany got 1 Terabit/sec over a single strand of fibre? As long as you didn't die a few months ago, that barrier was broken in your lifetime.
You can say this all you want, but the last few Star Trek movies(the last one especially), Voyager and DS9 all suck. Star Wars TPM was so much better than those movies I feel pity fo the Star Trek fans.
Star Trek can never have good scenes like the light saber battle between Liam Neeson & Darth Maul, Obi-Wan & Darth Maul, or Luke & Vader. Or maybe it could, but it's ability to do that left with the old show. THe new show sucks in comparison.
Yeah, so it's really called GoLive 4, but who the hell cares. It was called Cyberstudio until stupid Adobe bought it, so that's what it is. And it's the best. W/o a doubt. You should be able to go to adobe.com and grab a demo, if not, try download.com and grab a 3.0 demo. 4.0 is better, but not by much. I don't have to run through why it's the best, all you have to do is use it and you'll agree.
Before you guys get ready to kill Apple, look at the sites, there's nothing about Apple buying the format. Wouldn't it be great if people would check the links before posting a news item?
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I said this on another topic, but I'll sayit again. I think everyone should read the James Halperin book, "The First Immortal", about a man who is undergoes cryonic freezing, and is then re-animated years later when nanotech is common. Basically Halperin says that everyone's lifespan will soon be measured in centuries or even millenias. All because of nanotech. Sounds good to me. Halperin doesn't really address population, although he does mention that people are living at other places in the solar system. My own idea is that maybe we could have everyone who wants to use nanotech or cryonic freezing sign a contract to not have more than 1 child(maybe 2). This way we could slow population growth and eventually it would hopefully plateau. However, the population would still be far, far higher than 6 billion even if every family has only 2 children, b/c of the increased lifespan.
I refuse to even address most of the paranoid delusions you wrote of in your post. However:
"Do these people with an IQ below 70 deserve to pass on their crippled genes for another thousand years or so? Do these people even deserve to live? I think not."
This is just pathetic and sickens me. Is it these people's fault that they are unintelligent? Should they be punished because of some freak accident or because genes lined up the wrong way? Now I do think that we should try, as humanely as possible, to stop problems like this, but I also think we should stop problems like near-sightedness. This doesn't mean I would go around in some Pol-Potesque manner, killing everyone who wears glasses. But it might be possible to stop those genes from being passed down(without stopping people with glasses, like me, from having children). Do you want some society like Gattaca? I know I don't. I think it would be great if we could eliminate retardation and many other genetic problems, but not at the cost of liberty for those involved.
"True, but if you could make bacteria-sized Turing machines from scratch, you could design their external surfaces to either be non-immunogenic (the biological equivalent of teflon), or make them able to detect and remove or destroy any antibodies that bind to them"
Well it'd be nice to have these things, but I'd rather they come up with a better way to stop rejection than killing my antibodies.
The company didn't say that the PC is 60,000 times faster, the "hypercomputer" is. The PC does 100 billion ops/sec(BTW, how fast is this really, realtive to a 500MHZ P3 or G3?)
What they said was that
- they will have a HAL Jr, that will fit in a suitcase, and will do 640 billion ops/sec
-they've "mapped out a series of hypercomputer systems, ranging in performance from the HAL-10GrW1, capable of conducting 10 billion floating-point operations per second, to aHAL-100TrW1, which conducts 100 trillion floating point operations per second"
Meaning: the supercomputer will eventually go up to 100 trillion ops/sec, the but the PC is only 100 billion
Now, as I said, could some tell me how much faster 100 billion a second is than a computer today? But I'm going to try to figure it out w/o really knowing.
If I assume the 100 trillion one is the one that's 60,000 times faster than today's computer, then would the 100 billion one be 60 times faster? If they can release something 60 times faster than a P2 450 in 18 months that would still be damn good, IMHO.
China isn't going to become a superpower like the US anytime soon. Why? Because the supress freedom of press and speech there, which is not going to help people become more educated. They also have way too many people, it can be helpful at times, but overall it will be a burden. Related to the no free press/speech is that many of the smart people there come to the US to go to college and then stay here because they like us better. Also their military sucks, they basically have a lot of people and some shitty old crap they bought from the USSR. It'll take a long time to revamp it, and the only way they can get better stuff is to steal it from us.
Russia? First, how are they going to pull their country out of economic ruin? Second, the only reason anyone cares about Russia is that they usd to be a superpower and still have lots of nukes. They are really just a junky broke country with corrupt and stupid leaders.
And what does "retaliates in ways that your ordinary american can even dream off" mean? Retaliates for what? All the aid we've sent them? For still letting them feel like they're a big boy country just because they have nukes and some remanants of an armed forces? And what way couldn't an ordinary American dream of? And why would they wait till their economy is OK to do this? Any military attack from Russia would mean no more Russia. And some other type of retaliation? Why don't you enlighten me.
"The American society is arrogant, poorly-educated, knows very litle about history, is very easly influenced, manipulated and brainwashed." And this is different from the people in other countries how?
Yeah my ass. Maybe Willamette. The G4 too, I bet. And I guess the K7. But Merced won't be in a machine costing $1200 any time soon. And I wonder, when were these policies introduced? Even making it 6 times what it is now will be a very temporary solution.
That fool is none other than DOn Crabb, who I believe has said this before. He's also said many other stupiud shit things and thinks he can tell Apple to do whatever he wants. He's full of shit but he just keeps popping up on one crappy site after another. Damn.
http://www.macselect.com/desktops.html
There, now stay w/ us mac users.
It's a Blue G3 300/64MB RAM/6GB HD/100Mbit EtherNet/FireWire/USB/easy-open/will work w/ OSX Server/easily overclockable to 350/400/maybe 450
This is the same machine I have, and it's nice. get it and stay Mac.
The "He was the last, best hope for peace" is verbatim I think. The "I tried to save him" is maybe not eaxct, but it's close. I haven't seen Babylon 5, so I don't knwo what you're referring to, but that quote was right.
"Since when do radio waves travel at the speed of light?"
Oh boy. Well suffice it to say they've been traveling that fast for a while and hopefully will continue to do so.
I realize your arguements have merit, but we really just have to assume(hope) that
1) there are a bunch of civilizations out there
2) since whatever they do, fundamental laws of science should be the same, they would have radio
Now we are making some assumptions, but don't we have to try? Would it be better to just forget about looking for ET life? The thing is, even though the chances are low(or maybe not low, we can't be sure), the gains from even finding life somewhere like Mars would be enormous, the gains from being able to contact an intelligent ET lifeform would very possibly be the biggest event in human history. What if there was some lifeform trasmitting out vast amounts of knowledge so we picked up something like a big reference book. Who knows how many years it would advance human science? Tens? Doubtful. Hundreds? More likely. Over one thousand? Definitely possible.
To not conduct this search would be doing a disservice to the human race.
"It's a pretty safe bet that your Powerbook won't be able to uplink with the mothership."
I don't know, Jeff Goldblum was even able to write a virus, imagine that. It seems that aliens use the MacOS.
"And read more Sagan."
Always good advice. I read "Billion and Billions" a while back and I though it was so good that I recently read "Contact", "Cosmos", "Broca's Brain", and am now on "The Demon-Haunted World". It's very interesting stuff, even though he sometimes loses me on the physics(still in HS and haven't taken Physics yet).
Here's a question: if I wanted to get a dish set-up that I could hook up to 3 different TVs and they could each watch there own thing:
is it possible?
what would be the best/cheapest service?
what would be the cost/setup(meaning would I need two dishes or what)?
Thanks.
very good, except that if ET was phoning us in a different part of the spectrum we're still screwed, b/c we just checked a small part of the spectrum over and over again
No, I have completed a bunch of data blocks and as far as I can remember every single one has been from Jan 8. Is it a good idea to have 500,000 people doing the work of 50? It's absurd and SETI should tell us what's going on.
I was going to say something about that too, but I figured I was just stupid. That is very odd, I wonder why they keep doing that, it's really pointless. If they just continue this w/o an explanation I'm just going to stop processing data until they fix this problem. Very strange.
"So in all fairness, everything is shit."
Yup, there's the old glass is half empty attitude, sounds good to me.
The MacAddict team actually has more members, but the Mac cleint sucks and I think many /.ers contribute more CPU time than the average MacAddict member.
Anyone know if there are so many people doing this that there's not going to be enough data? Now that would be awesome.
Let's think: 35Gb of data per day from Arecibo. Each block is 250k(maybe more, but that's what I'll call it). so
35000 4 = 140,000 blocks/day.
There are at least 350,000-400,000 people running this. So means if everyone complete about 1 block every 2-2.5 days, we'll be able to process the data faster than they get it.
IIRC, the book was Broca's Brain(though I just read both of them one after the other, so I could be wrong).
And Sagan actually did show some equations to show how wrong Velikovsky was very wrong(his ideas seemed to be trying to scientifically prove Biblical stories).
But, point is, yes. Sagan was very against the treatment Velikovsky got. I think Sagan actually got a confrence or something set up just so both sides could present their arguements.
That's not part of the press release, that's new.com's little addition. And they're probably so fucking dumb that they think that
2.5 gigabits == 2.5 gigabytes
just shows you how stupid someone is
The fact that we can't do it now doesn't mean we can't do it with a new technology soon. Also, didn't you see that story a while back that Siemens or some comapany got 1 Terabit/sec over a single strand of fibre? As long as you didn't die a few months ago, that barrier was broken in your lifetime.
You can say this all you want, but the last few Star Trek movies(the last one especially), Voyager and DS9 all suck. Star Wars TPM was so much better than those movies I feel pity fo the Star Trek fans.
Star Trek can never have good scenes like the light saber battle between Liam Neeson & Darth Maul, Obi-Wan & Darth Maul, or Luke & Vader. Or maybe it could, but it's ability to do that left with the old show. THe new show sucks in comparison.
Yeah, so it's really called GoLive 4, but who the hell cares. It was called Cyberstudio until stupid Adobe bought it, so that's what it is. And it's the best. W/o a doubt. You should be able to go to adobe.com and grab a demo, if not, try download.com and grab a 3.0 demo. 4.0 is better, but not by much. I don't have to run through why it's the best, all you have to do is use it and you'll agree.
not Franklin
Before you guys get ready to kill Apple, look at the sites, there's nothing about Apple buying the format. Wouldn't it be great if people would check the links before posting a news item?