I can't believe people are celebrating the onslaught of the only software giant with more proprietary vendor lock-in and questionable business practices than Microsoft. And then there's the practical application- it's like people forgot MS Office and Visual Studio existed...
How is this remotely cost effective or practical? This is like recommending that UPS start using Lexus SUV's to deliver packages...
Vista desktops fall right into microsoft-powered corporate networks the same way XP does... it's not the "same thing" to "upgrade" to OSX... you're talking about scrapping ALL hardware rather than simply upgrading or replacing your weakest workstations. Businesses can move up to Vista gradually or sequentially- especially since all the Office and Productivity suite runs on either- switching to Apple or Linux would be NIGHT and DAY.
This post is clearly FUD, feeding off of the wild anti-microsoft hysteria on this site.
I am fairly certain they're referring to the accelerated piracy. There's claims that DRM'd files get pirated just as quickly as non-DRM'd files, but this logic simply doesn't apply to the average users... maybe with experienced pirates and power-users.
With unsecured purchased files, people will be way more likely to email mp3's to their friends, etc. It's an issue of lost potential revenue. They'd rather you tell a friend to pick up a track off of (Insert Music Store you don't hate) than simply having them send the file.
Did you just mention OSX? As a military option for an in-ship workstation? This isn't an iShip... I don't think that's possibly unless they're using the new NuclearPod.
I think an embedded(or even non-embedded) Windows solution would be fine for low-performance systems that aren't driven to the needle's edge hardware-wise. They're certainly more practical for secure development on the available frameworks.
Whoever mentioned that these systems would be driving nuclear weapons is really looking at this the wrong way. The nuclear weapons console will not be in anyway networked to the navigation system- unless they're insane. They're likely using high-performance embedded RTOS for that.
I'm with the trunk poster. I've been running Vista business since release and very rarely see UAC boxes- even when editing things like the Start Menu or changes preferences in the control panel. I did have to enable Visual Studio to run as admin- but that's one application with an extra click. It's like the people on this site saw that BS Apple commercial and were just *convinced*.
I think your fanboy-ism is cramping your brain muscle.:p
Windows is the dominant market. Linux is a fringe market with a lack of central supportable standards (lots of conflicting "open" standards) or a singular user-friendly installation interface. It'd be a nightmare to support a home user product on linux.
You can't really pull it off, accurately. Linux has no major technical advantages to desktop end-users, so to someone who is yet unaware of it- you're better off appealing to peoples' ideals.
Tell them it's free, community developed, and make some stuff up- like how it makes better use of your system's resources or something. People don't really know the difference.
It works really well if they're a primarily Gaelic speaking individual, because of all the obscure translations. Perhaps the person you're talking to is an Irish time traveler... or in the IRA.
Actually, just tell them it has no viruses or spyware- that's the hook. Then reel 'em in!
Just pretend you're a Jehova's witness, and Linux is your religion. That's how most people do it.
Statements like this always sound creepy to me. I think of using an Apple computer as joining a cult. If I want a unix system, I'll go with something that has better hardware support...
I highly doubt Microsoft made these rules, I'm fairly certain they are merely complying with requirements to use the technology. It's not in Microsoft's standards to enforce DRM, anyway- it's expensive, complicated, and not very attractive to consumers.
It's a necessary evil that comes with the proprietary technology. What's important is that they made it possible to circumvent the closed player infrastructure at only moderate loss.
Microsoft simply engineered a compliant solution into their media infrastructure. I can't wait to see Apple fans happily cheer at Apple's implementation of these same limitations. What's the excuse going to be?
Just use Linux if you don't want to play by the rules. It's disorganized, hacked, and chaotic enough that any encrypted media technology can simply be circumvented at no consequences other than greater market acceptance.
I've been using Vista for a while now and I'm not entirely sure how it's supposed to be actively attacking me.
I can still play just about any media format in VLC media player without any trouble.
Actually, I have a better solution:
Why do you need to run HD-DVD's? Are you people daft? If you don't like the technology, don't buy it- and a more open solution will appear. Bingo! Most people already don't buy into HD movie formats because they're unnecessary and sort of retarded.
Vista is DRM-compliant, for the most part it just runs like XP only with a smoother more improved UI. Anyone who's ever thrown together a quick business application in VBA or shown their parents how to remove pictures from a camera using a simple wizard knows why Windows is not going anyhwere- it's extremely useful. So it just happens to comply with mandated DRM policies- so will OSX.
Just buy your MP3's from non-DRM sites like Bleep.com and buy your movies on DVD. PROBLEM SOLVED.
I had issues with opengl games running slow. I installed ubuntu linux on an old HD in order to wait out the improved implementation of ICD drivers. Took 45 minutes. Now I can play a few old games in linux and manage media and do most tasks in windows. PROBLEM SOLVED.
It's all so simple. In many cases, DRM even offers awesome enabling technologies like Subscription music.
But why is Windows Vista the icon of sin in this case? It's just an operating system. It's the next generation of windows- upgraded, pretty, usable. I'm sorry if you need to feed HD-DVD video into an unsecured buffer for some obviously legal reason. Just pay for your software and media and it won't be any big deal.
The market dictates the direction things are going, and if these DRM technologies are convenient for legitimate consumers, they will win. Sorry fringe market- keep bitchin'
This reminds me of that initiative American Online used to do where they sent their software to everyone, for free!
Will the package come with the features listed, as well?
"Resembles Office 97, but is much slower and requires a lot more system resources!"
"Teach children effective office skills that will immediately become invalid if they ever get real jobs."
"Confuse aging librarians and unofficial "IT professionals" at elementary schools!"
New Interface, New Standards, New Format! Difference: It's now "standardized"
That doesn't mean anything to people.
Considering most of these schools are running older hardware, I think it would be a better idea for them to just use MS Works or the old Office likely already installed on their computers. If you're going to send something schools, send them something useful. Send them hardware... text books (not patchwork wiki crap) - or maybe sports equipment.
It looks like this initiative has now raised $120! Why is this news?
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I can't believe people are celebrating the onslaught of the only software giant with more proprietary vendor lock-in and questionable business practices than Microsoft. And then there's the practical application- it's like people forgot MS Office and Visual Studio existed...
How is this remotely cost effective or practical? This is like recommending that UPS start using Lexus SUV's to deliver packages...
Vista desktops fall right into microsoft-powered corporate networks the same way XP does... it's not the "same thing" to "upgrade" to OSX... you're talking about scrapping ALL hardware rather than simply upgrading or replacing your weakest workstations. Businesses can move up to Vista gradually or sequentially- especially since all the Office and Productivity suite runs on either- switching to Apple or Linux would be NIGHT and DAY.
This post is clearly FUD, feeding off of the wild anti-microsoft hysteria on this site.
But the vast majority of users don't have the patience or know-how to do this.
I am fairly certain they're referring to the accelerated piracy. There's claims that DRM'd files get pirated just as quickly as non-DRM'd files, but this logic simply doesn't apply to the average users... maybe with experienced pirates and power-users.
With unsecured purchased files, people will be way more likely to email mp3's to their friends, etc. It's an issue of lost potential revenue. They'd rather you tell a friend to pick up a track off of (Insert Music Store you don't hate) than simply having them send the file.
Did you just mention OSX? As a military option for an in-ship workstation? This isn't an iShip... I don't think that's possibly unless they're using the new NuclearPod.
I think an embedded(or even non-embedded) Windows solution would be fine for low-performance systems that aren't driven to the needle's edge hardware-wise. They're certainly more practical for secure development on the available frameworks.
Whoever mentioned that these systems would be driving nuclear weapons is really looking at this the wrong way. The nuclear weapons console will not be in anyway networked to the navigation system- unless they're insane. They're likely using high-performance embedded RTOS for that.
I'm with the trunk poster. I've been running Vista business since release and very rarely see UAC boxes- even when editing things like the Start Menu or changes preferences in the control panel. I did have to enable Visual Studio to run as admin- but that's one application with an extra click. It's like the people on this site saw that BS Apple commercial and were just *convinced*.
Honestly, people are sheep.
I think your fanboy-ism is cramping your brain muscle. :p
Windows is the dominant market. Linux is a fringe market with a lack of central supportable standards (lots of conflicting "open" standards) or a singular user-friendly installation interface. It'd be a nightmare to support a home user product on linux.
You can't really pull it off, accurately. Linux has no major technical advantages to desktop end-users, so to someone who is yet unaware of it- you're better off appealing to peoples' ideals.
Tell them it's free, community developed, and make some stuff up- like how it makes better use of your system's resources or something. People don't really know the difference.
It works really well if they're a primarily Gaelic speaking individual, because of all the obscure translations. Perhaps the person you're talking to is an Irish time traveler... or in the IRA.
Actually, just tell them it has no viruses or spyware- that's the hook. Then reel 'em in!
Just pretend you're a Jehova's witness, and Linux is your religion. That's how most people do it.
Statements like this always sound creepy to me. I think of using an Apple computer as joining a cult. If I want a unix system, I'll go with something that has better hardware support...
I can't wait until Perl Script wins a seat in Parliament, or perhaps even position as Prime Minister!
I highly doubt Microsoft made these rules, I'm fairly certain they are merely complying with requirements to use the technology. It's not in Microsoft's standards to enforce DRM, anyway- it's expensive, complicated, and not very attractive to consumers.
It's a necessary evil that comes with the proprietary technology. What's important is that they made it possible to circumvent the closed player infrastructure at only moderate loss.
Microsoft simply engineered a compliant solution into their media infrastructure. I can't wait to see Apple fans happily cheer at Apple's implementation of these same limitations. What's the excuse going to be?
Just use Linux if you don't want to play by the rules. It's disorganized, hacked, and chaotic enough that any encrypted media technology can simply be circumvented at no consequences other than greater market acceptance.
I can use this crack to play ridiculously high-resolution media with a different connector than intended! YES!
Now I'll just disable automatic update to preserve it and completely forego the benefit of paying for an operating system.
I've been using Vista for a while now and I'm not entirely sure how it's supposed to be actively attacking me. I can still play just about any media format in VLC media player without any trouble. Actually, I have a better solution: Why do you need to run HD-DVD's? Are you people daft? If you don't like the technology, don't buy it- and a more open solution will appear. Bingo! Most people already don't buy into HD movie formats because they're unnecessary and sort of retarded. Vista is DRM-compliant, for the most part it just runs like XP only with a smoother more improved UI. Anyone who's ever thrown together a quick business application in VBA or shown their parents how to remove pictures from a camera using a simple wizard knows why Windows is not going anyhwere- it's extremely useful. So it just happens to comply with mandated DRM policies- so will OSX. Just buy your MP3's from non-DRM sites like Bleep.com and buy your movies on DVD. PROBLEM SOLVED. I had issues with opengl games running slow. I installed ubuntu linux on an old HD in order to wait out the improved implementation of ICD drivers. Took 45 minutes. Now I can play a few old games in linux and manage media and do most tasks in windows. PROBLEM SOLVED. It's all so simple. In many cases, DRM even offers awesome enabling technologies like Subscription music. But why is Windows Vista the icon of sin in this case? It's just an operating system. It's the next generation of windows- upgraded, pretty, usable. I'm sorry if you need to feed HD-DVD video into an unsecured buffer for some obviously legal reason. Just pay for your software and media and it won't be any big deal. The market dictates the direction things are going, and if these DRM technologies are convenient for legitimate consumers, they will win. Sorry fringe market- keep bitchin'
This reminds me of that initiative American Online used to do where they sent their software to everyone, for free!
Will the package come with the features listed, as well?
"Resembles Office 97, but is much slower and requires a lot more system resources!"
"Teach children effective office skills that will immediately become invalid if they ever get real jobs."
"Confuse aging librarians and unofficial "IT professionals" at elementary schools!"
New Interface, New Standards, New Format! Difference: It's now "standardized"
That doesn't mean anything to people.
Considering most of these schools are running older hardware, I think it would be a better idea for them to just use MS Works or the old Office likely already installed on their computers. If you're going to send something schools, send them something useful. Send them hardware... text books (not patchwork wiki crap) - or maybe sports equipment.
It looks like this initiative has now raised $120! Why is this news?