Oi. I'm not "pretending it doesn't happen", cause I have had to edit the registry myself... but it was for things that a normal user wouldn't do, that's all I'm saying. I'm just asking WHAT it was that you were doing that made you have to edit the registry, which I guess you did answer, albeit in an unnecessarily hostile way.
Configuring Windows still basically requires significant registry editing work. It may Just Work in a couple of years, but at this point Mandriva is still a safer bet for the average consumer.
Eh? Just what are you configuring your Windows box to do? I've set up a lot of Windows machines in my time, and have never had to touch the registry to get them working for things your average user is going to be doing.
If anyone doesn't get the Borg reference, they don't belong here, they should be at the geek office turning in their geek card (or educating themselves, whichever they prefer).
I like debating with people. I do it all the time, in real life as well as on the interwebs. That isn't trolling. Trolling would be if I were deliberately distorting facts, or making inflammatory statements just to rile people up, even though I didn't believe them. Sure, I can't prove that I'm not trolling, but it speaks rather poorly of you that you just assume someone is trolling because you don't like their opinion.
I'm sure you're thoroughly amused right about now.
Yes, the classic internet reflex: call a guy a troll because you disagree with him. Can't say there's anything that pisses me off more on the internet than intolerance like that. Whatever.
Can't get Flash to work in IE7, so you do use FF on occasion, but IE7 is still at least as good as FF and preferable.
Yes. I happen to know that Flash does, in fact, work in IE7. I've had other IE7 installs in the past (including my past Windows install before I upgraded hard drives) that used Flash just fine. Thus, it isn't a problem with IE7 itself, it's a problem with some specific thing in my current install. I'm just way too lazy, in general, to troubleshoot my home machine.
But it's all good cause you've got the 1337 system, you da man! Keep it up, it'll be quittin time fore ya know it ehh?
I'm trying to be reasonable, and acknowledge that maybe I don't notice performance issues because I built a good system. It IS a possibility, a fast enough machine will largely negate performance differences between two apps. Would you rather I'd just blindly insisted that it must be the fault of the other guy's computer when IE7 is slow?
Uh... not at all. People upgrade IE all the time, and you could probably get a lot of people to join you in shouting that IE hasn't had any innovation in ages. Upgrading your browser version doesn't mean you aren't using that browser due to inertia.
So when you come across a site that has content that you enjoy, but also contains annoying ads
Then I have a decision... but I also have yet to have this happen. I have found a pretty high correlation between sites with terrible ads and sites with completely idiotic (in my view, at least) content.
That's quite a minority opinion, and yet you don't understand why people don't agree with you?
I understand it perfectly well. I just don't agree.
I understand that. I'm saying you're wrong in jumping down the throat of someone who wants treatment for disabled people to be affordable, claiming that he doesn't care about their plight. I never intended to propose a new model, although I would sure love to hear one.
Well, I'm not a developer. I'm a user (at least as far as web pages are concerned), and when I speak of "innovation", I speak in terms of innovations from the point of view of a user (as do most people, I might add). Saying "If you were a developer you'd see the innovation" is not valid. The innovation may be there for developers, but if it isn't innovative for users, then the innovation is pretty empty, since only a small percentage of their customers are happy with their "innovation".
Let me educate you on the term "any more". Of course I don't know if sites have nasty ads when I first go there. If I go there, and find they do, I don't come back. How is that hard to understand?
Uh... if you're going to sites with malicious ads, you're doing it wrong. The first step in Internet security is to avoid the sites which try to attack you.
Well, then I guess either my computer is stupidly overpowered (possible, I built it for gaming), or something else is going on, because I notice no lag in IE7's interface. I also use Firefox occasionally (I can't get Flash to work in IE7 and am too lazy to troubleshoot it), and notice no improvements over IE7 in terms of speed. I simply can't agree with your experience.
Huh? How the hell are any of these innovation? Let's go down the list.
Standards compliance: they're conforming to a standard, whoop-de-do. In any case, something that makes web developers' lives easier doesn't qualify as innovation to you and me, we're end users, not developers.
More flexible (I assume you mean add-ons): this was innovation in version 1. It isn't innovation any more.
Awesome bar: Haven't used it, but it doesn't sound like a very good innovation to me. I'll give you this one, though.
Runs javascript faster: Huh? In the first place, I have never noticed a problem with IE's script execution. In the second place, doing the same thing, only faster, isn't innovation either.
Isn't integrated with Windows: Correction of a stupid thing Microsoft did also is not innovation. If you leave your ice cream out in the sun, I'm not innovating by taking it inside.
Runs on Linux: Cross-platform compatibility is, by no stretch of the imagination, innovative. Apps do this all the freaking time.
On a broadband connection, web pages take all of a few seconds to load, even with ads. Wasteful? Possibly, and that's a fair argument... but not what I look at. I can tune out the ads, so they don't affect me, which is good enough in my book.
Overly intrusive ads... well, I just don't visit those sites any more. Somehow, my life hasn't really become worse without sites that throw pop-ups everywhere.
Uh, yeah, I refuse to believe that "subliminally affecting you" stuff. I see ads ALL THE DAMN TIME, when I'm driving, or watching TV, or listening to the radio, and let me tell you, I am no more likely to buy their product than before. In fact, plenty of ads are annoying enough that I'm less likely to buy their product. The whole "subliminal" thing strikes me as a giant load of hogwash.
I don't really consider a few seconds per page load to really enrich my life much. I mean, at best, we're talking like 10 minutes or something I added to my day (broken into chunks so small as to not be of actual value). That doesn't really have any appeal to me, but that's just me.
I just ignore ads, and do so with ease. I never understood the need for an addon to do it, but maybe I'm just really good at ignoring ads or something. Some can be really nasty, but the majority I run into are easily filtered out mentally.
Come to think of it, that'll be a good comeback to the snarky "Oh, TFA has ads? I didn't notice, cause I use adblock" comments... "Oh, you use adblock? How quaint, I trained my mind to do that ages ago."
Yes, but what I'm saying is, people who use Firefox are going to continue using it because of inertia, not because Firefox is a hotbed of innovation. It obviously doesn't suck (or else they'd switch to something else), but neither is it amazing... it's just what they happen to be using.
Firefox won't gain any market share through inertia, but it keeps its market share that way.
So does Firefox. IE7 and Firefox are basically equal in terms of features, unless you care about add-ons (and personally, I have yet to see one FF addon that excites me). Firefox used to be better than IE, mostly because it had tabs. Now IE has tabs, and the playing field is level again.
That's also true. I'm a very happy IE7 user at home, but at work, I'm stuck with IE6, since our apps aren't tested with IE7, and thus IE7 is not kosher.
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Oi. I'm not "pretending it doesn't happen", cause I have had to edit the registry myself... but it was for things that a normal user wouldn't do, that's all I'm saying. I'm just asking WHAT it was that you were doing that made you have to edit the registry, which I guess you did answer, albeit in an unnecessarily hostile way.
Configuring Windows still basically requires significant registry editing work. It may Just Work in a couple of years, but at this point Mandriva is still a safer bet for the average consumer.
Eh? Just what are you configuring your Windows box to do? I've set up a lot of Windows machines in my time, and have never had to touch the registry to get them working for things your average user is going to be doing.
If anyone doesn't get the Borg reference, they don't belong here, they should be at the geek office turning in their geek card (or educating themselves, whichever they prefer).
I like debating with people. I do it all the time, in real life as well as on the interwebs. That isn't trolling. Trolling would be if I were deliberately distorting facts, or making inflammatory statements just to rile people up, even though I didn't believe them. Sure, I can't prove that I'm not trolling, but it speaks rather poorly of you that you just assume someone is trolling because you don't like their opinion.
Obviously you're simply here to waste time
Well, duh. That's what we do here.
I'm sure you're thoroughly amused right about now.
Yes, the classic internet reflex: call a guy a troll because you disagree with him. Can't say there's anything that pisses me off more on the internet than intolerance like that. Whatever.
Can't get Flash to work in IE7, so you do use FF on occasion, but IE7 is still at least as good as FF and preferable.
Yes. I happen to know that Flash does, in fact, work in IE7. I've had other IE7 installs in the past (including my past Windows install before I upgraded hard drives) that used Flash just fine. Thus, it isn't a problem with IE7 itself, it's a problem with some specific thing in my current install. I'm just way too lazy, in general, to troubleshoot my home machine.
But it's all good cause you've got the 1337 system, you da man! Keep it up, it'll be quittin time fore ya know it ehh?
I'm trying to be reasonable, and acknowledge that maybe I don't notice performance issues because I built a good system. It IS a possibility, a fast enough machine will largely negate performance differences between two apps. Would you rather I'd just blindly insisted that it must be the fault of the other guy's computer when IE7 is slow?
Uh... not at all. People upgrade IE all the time, and you could probably get a lot of people to join you in shouting that IE hasn't had any innovation in ages. Upgrading your browser version doesn't mean you aren't using that browser due to inertia.
I haven't run FF3, but FF2 is certainly no faster than IE7 on my machine.
So when you come across a site that has content that you enjoy, but also contains annoying ads
Then I have a decision... but I also have yet to have this happen. I have found a pretty high correlation between sites with terrible ads and sites with completely idiotic (in my view, at least) content.
That's quite a minority opinion, and yet you don't understand why people don't agree with you?
I understand it perfectly well. I just don't agree.
I understand that. I'm saying you're wrong in jumping down the throat of someone who wants treatment for disabled people to be affordable, claiming that he doesn't care about their plight. I never intended to propose a new model, although I would sure love to hear one.
Well, I'm not a developer. I'm a user (at least as far as web pages are concerned), and when I speak of "innovation", I speak in terms of innovations from the point of view of a user (as do most people, I might add). Saying "If you were a developer you'd see the innovation" is not valid. The innovation may be there for developers, but if it isn't innovative for users, then the innovation is pretty empty, since only a small percentage of their customers are happy with their "innovation".
Let me educate you on the term "any more". Of course I don't know if sites have nasty ads when I first go there. If I go there, and find they do, I don't come back. How is that hard to understand?
Uh... if you're going to sites with malicious ads, you're doing it wrong. The first step in Internet security is to avoid the sites which try to attack you.
Well, then I guess either my computer is stupidly overpowered (possible, I built it for gaming), or something else is going on, because I notice no lag in IE7's interface. I also use Firefox occasionally (I can't get Flash to work in IE7 and am too lazy to troubleshoot it), and notice no improvements over IE7 in terms of speed. I simply can't agree with your experience.
Huh? How the hell are any of these innovation? Let's go down the list.
Standards compliance: they're conforming to a standard, whoop-de-do. In any case, something that makes web developers' lives easier doesn't qualify as innovation to you and me, we're end users, not developers.
More flexible (I assume you mean add-ons): this was innovation in version 1. It isn't innovation any more.
Awesome bar: Haven't used it, but it doesn't sound like a very good innovation to me. I'll give you this one, though.
Runs javascript faster: Huh? In the first place, I have never noticed a problem with IE's script execution. In the second place, doing the same thing, only faster, isn't innovation either.
Isn't integrated with Windows: Correction of a stupid thing Microsoft did also is not innovation. If you leave your ice cream out in the sun, I'm not innovating by taking it inside.
Runs on Linux: Cross-platform compatibility is, by no stretch of the imagination, innovative. Apps do this all the freaking time.
Overly intrusive ads... well, I just don't visit those sites any more. Somehow, my life hasn't really become worse without sites that throw pop-ups everywhere.
Uh, yeah, I refuse to believe that "subliminally affecting you" stuff. I see ads ALL THE DAMN TIME, when I'm driving, or watching TV, or listening to the radio, and let me tell you, I am no more likely to buy their product than before. In fact, plenty of ads are annoying enough that I'm less likely to buy their product. The whole "subliminal" thing strikes me as a giant load of hogwash.
I don't really consider a few seconds per page load to really enrich my life much. I mean, at best, we're talking like 10 minutes or something I added to my day (broken into chunks so small as to not be of actual value). That doesn't really have any appeal to me, but that's just me.
Opinions are wonderful and mysterious things. And no, I'm not trolling.
I've never had that problem. I'm guessing your computer is slow? Although I suppose mine could be overly fast.
I have one, it's called "ignoring ads, and them not bothering me as a result".
Come to think of it, that'll be a good comeback to the snarky "Oh, TFA has ads? I didn't notice, cause I use adblock" comments... "Oh, you use adblock? How quaint, I trained my mind to do that ages ago."
Firefox won't gain any market share through inertia, but it keeps its market share that way.
True... because not one of those provides me with useful functionality. If they did, I'd be using them.
IE survives on inertia, not quality.
So does Firefox. IE7 and Firefox are basically equal in terms of features, unless you care about add-ons (and personally, I have yet to see one FF addon that excites me). Firefox used to be better than IE, mostly because it had tabs. Now IE has tabs, and the playing field is level again.
That's also true. I'm a very happy IE7 user at home, but at work, I'm stuck with IE6, since our apps aren't tested with IE7, and thus IE7 is not kosher.