it's almost like you've bought into your platform so bad that anything that's insulting/deamning to it appears to be a personal attack on you yourself.
Niiiiiiiiiiice. I find the ads insulting, so I must be a raving fanboy. Do you actually think that a statement like that has any basis in fact, or do you just enjoy insulting me?
I don't take insults towards the platform I use personally. People insult Windows all damn day long on/., and I don't bat an eyelash. It's not that I care if people insult the platform, it's that Apple is insulting the users, not the platform. I don't see how anyone else sees it otherwise, to be perfectly honest. Those ads drip contempt.
Matey, I be confused. I did be respondin' t' yer comment only 8 minutes after ye posted it. What be ye tryin' to say here?
Ye be right, though. People don't be carin' about th' votin' system in our country, because they don't think it be affectin' 'em. Then again, most people are slow landlubbers, only fit to be keelhauled, arr.
Except th' newcomers' refusin' t' learn a new language do be affectin' us, matey. They then be expectin' (since they be havin' the right to know th' law and such) translators, and other such things, which the taxpayers be findin' downright scurvy to have to pay for.
Th' sea dogs who prefer t' be marryin' other sea dogs may be a mite odd in the eyes o' this gentleman o' fortune, but they be doin' me no harm. Th' newcomers who come t' this nation and spend me tax money without need do be doin' me harm.
I think ye be confusin' the issue here. If there be a law against doing something, no matter if the offense be civil or criminal, the act be illegal. Simple as that, matey.
Aye matey, 'tis truth you speak. We need t' keelhaul the scurvy dogs who be thinkin' that an honest sea dog should always be swabbin' the poop deck, while the cap'n always be dinin' in comfort.
Did the perception of "Vista sucks" come out of nowhere?
Actually, I contend that yes, it did. It's a few legitimate bad experiences which got spun up a ton into a great big ball of FUD. I use Vista as my main OS, and if it were even a shred as bad as people say it is, it would be absolutely unusable... but it works quite well. I know others who have had the same experience. Hm. Sounds like a classic case of "people blowing things out of proportion" to me.
Avast, Apple! Ye scurvy dogs may have forgotten that we be havin' this provision in our rules statin' that something ye patent must not already be bein' made by someone else.
Foolish landlubbers need to walk th' plank, says I!
I change what I can, where I can. I have a much better shot at changing the status quo by trying to change people's minds, one person at a time, than I do by pleading with those in power to change the system so that they have less power.
Are they actually demeaning and insulting to the potential customers? I don't perceive it as that -- they're not saying "PC users are doody heads"
Maybe that's not what they're trying to say, but that's how every single one of those ads came across to me. "These machines suck, and by extension, you suck for being stupid enough to not use our machine." Fortunately for them, I wasn't in the market anyway, so they didn't lose a customer... but seriously, I can't imagine they've gained customers with this approach (once you factor in the people they've alienated). Why not pick something that isn't so arrogant, and can be seen as very insulting? Then they would gain customers, and not alienate potential customers. Surely that would be far better.
The purpose of John Hodgman was not to "stereotype" PC users.
In that case, they failed hard, because that's exactly how he comes off in the commercials. What they supposedly were trying to make cheeky, light-hearted ads came off as insulting and mean-spirited towards the very people they want to advertise to. If that isn't bad marketing, I don't know what is.
Are you kidding? I think the "I'm a PC/I'm a Mac" series of ads is utterly brilliant.
No, I'm not kidding. Not only do they tend to be, at best, completely blown out of proportion (I swear I recall seeing one or two that were outright false)... they're insulting and demeaning to the very users they're trying to convert. I constantly wonder what idiot came up with an ad that insults your potential customers, and why he isn't fired yet.
Also what happens every time is that generation's Know-Nothings [wikipedia.org] get all irate at them for not assimilating faster.
I say again: if someone puts no effort in to learn the language, you have every right to be irate with them. I don't take issue with people who try, but struggle, I take issue with people who don't try at all.
Federal elections are about choosing between Democrats or Republicans. So long as these two can get ready in time, it's all that matters. Let's keep in mind that we have a legal system here that is based on common law. US law is about reality, not books and schools.
The bottom line is that Libertarians are just not part of the democratic process in the United States. He should just shut up and choose to be Democrat or Republican.
Please stop propping up the two-party system. Thank you.
I really don't understand this offense people feel from people who don't want to adopt English. Why is it "rude"?
Because it's rude to try to go live in a country without making an effort to be able to communicate with the residents.
Secondly, everybody wants to learn English.
I bet you anything (you name it, I'll bet it) that we can find people who don't. Those are the people I have an issue with.
What do you fear, though, from having an organic, living Spanish-speaking community within the United States?
Who the hell said I'm afraid of anything? I merely detest it when people decide to move to another country, and don't attempt to bother communicating decently with the locals. It is not everybody else's responsibility to communicate with you, it is your responsibility to communicate with them.
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it's almost like you've bought into your platform so bad that anything that's insulting/deamning to it appears to be a personal attack on you yourself.
Niiiiiiiiiiice. I find the ads insulting, so I must be a raving fanboy. Do you actually think that a statement like that has any basis in fact, or do you just enjoy insulting me?
I don't take insults towards the platform I use personally. People insult Windows all damn day long on /., and I don't bat an eyelash. It's not that I care if people insult the platform, it's that Apple is insulting the users, not the platform. I don't see how anyone else sees it otherwise, to be perfectly honest. Those ads drip contempt.
Took a while to come up with a reason?
Matey, I be confused. I did be respondin' t' yer comment only 8 minutes after ye posted it. What be ye tryin' to say here?
Ye be right, though. People don't be carin' about th' votin' system in our country, because they don't think it be affectin' 'em. Then again, most people are slow landlubbers, only fit to be keelhauled, arr.
Except th' newcomers' refusin' t' learn a new language do be affectin' us, matey. They then be expectin' (since they be havin' the right to know th' law and such) translators, and other such things, which the taxpayers be findin' downright scurvy to have to pay for.
Th' sea dogs who prefer t' be marryin' other sea dogs may be a mite odd in the eyes o' this gentleman o' fortune, but they be doin' me no harm. Th' newcomers who come t' this nation and spend me tax money without need do be doin' me harm.
Avast, scallywag! Ye'll take those movies, which I be enjoyin', and have Whedon (whose work I don't be enjoyin') re-do them over me cold steel. Arr!
Ah, me apologies, then, me hearty. I misread yer statement.
Arr... ye need not be fearin' silly things t' have a phobia, me hearty. Acrophobia be a very sensible fear, fer example.
Aye, matey, but I never said that anything be illegal in this situation.
I think ye be confusin' the issue here. If there be a law against doing something, no matter if the offense be civil or criminal, the act be illegal. Simple as that, matey.
Ye missed the story on it, matey! I had clear forgotten that 'twas this glorious day until I did be readin' that.
Aye matey, 'tis truth you speak. We need t' keelhaul the scurvy dogs who be thinkin' that an honest sea dog should always be swabbin' the poop deck, while the cap'n always be dinin' in comfort.
Did the perception of "Vista sucks" come out of nowhere?
Actually, I contend that yes, it did. It's a few legitimate bad experiences which got spun up a ton into a great big ball of FUD. I use Vista as my main OS, and if it were even a shred as bad as people say it is, it would be absolutely unusable... but it works quite well. I know others who have had the same experience. Hm. Sounds like a classic case of "people blowing things out of proportion" to me.
Aye, matey, but that be not meanin' that th' act be legal.
Though jailbreakin' a phone seems not illegal to me. Ye should be able t' do what ye want with yer own phone, yarr.
Avast, Apple! Ye scurvy dogs may have forgotten that we be havin' this provision in our rules statin' that something ye patent must not already be bein' made by someone else.
Foolish landlubbers need to walk th' plank, says I!
Shiver me timbers! Be ye havin' the courage to talk like a proper sea dog at yer job? My hat off to ye, matey, and have a bottle o' rum!
I say we celebrate this day downloading the "pre Black Album" Metallica albums from Pirate Bay!
Arr!
Avast, ye scalawag! Every sea dog worth his salt be knowin' that Metallica's best album be th' black album!
Maybe a Mac bit your sister once? That would have been very painful.
Mind you, Mac bites can be pretty nasti...
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I change what I can, where I can. I have a much better shot at changing the status quo by trying to change people's minds, one person at a time, than I do by pleading with those in power to change the system so that they have less power.
Are they actually demeaning and insulting to the potential customers? I don't perceive it as that -- they're not saying "PC users are doody heads"
Maybe that's not what they're trying to say, but that's how every single one of those ads came across to me. "These machines suck, and by extension, you suck for being stupid enough to not use our machine." Fortunately for them, I wasn't in the market anyway, so they didn't lose a customer... but seriously, I can't imagine they've gained customers with this approach (once you factor in the people they've alienated). Why not pick something that isn't so arrogant, and can be seen as very insulting? Then they would gain customers, and not alienate potential customers. Surely that would be far better.
The purpose of John Hodgman was not to "stereotype" PC users.
In that case, they failed hard, because that's exactly how he comes off in the commercials. What they supposedly were trying to make cheeky, light-hearted ads came off as insulting and mean-spirited towards the very people they want to advertise to. If that isn't bad marketing, I don't know what is.
Are you kidding? I think the "I'm a PC/I'm a Mac" series of ads is utterly brilliant.
No, I'm not kidding. Not only do they tend to be, at best, completely blown out of proportion (I swear I recall seeing one or two that were outright false)... they're insulting and demeaning to the very users they're trying to convert. I constantly wonder what idiot came up with an ad that insults your potential customers, and why he isn't fired yet.
While the characters try to come off as being "cheeky and cute", they just end up looking like ditzy, ignorant, darwin-award candidates.
So, they tried to copy a retarded ad, and came out with a retarded ad. Surely that isn't surprising to anyone.
Also what happens every time is that generation's Know-Nothings [wikipedia.org] get all irate at them for not assimilating faster.
I say again: if someone puts no effort in to learn the language, you have every right to be irate with them. I don't take issue with people who try, but struggle, I take issue with people who don't try at all.
Federal elections are about choosing between Democrats or Republicans. So long as these two can get ready in time, it's all that matters. Let's keep in mind that we have a legal system here that is based on common law. US law is about reality, not books and schools.
The bottom line is that Libertarians are just not part of the democratic process in the United States. He should just shut up and choose to be Democrat or Republican.
Please stop propping up the two-party system. Thank you.
That classic games sold more than modern games is another piece of data...
A meaningless (probably) piece of data. The classic games have sold more because they've been out longer. Hardly could be said to be surprising.
I really don't understand this offense people feel from people who don't want to adopt English. Why is it "rude"?
Because it's rude to try to go live in a country without making an effort to be able to communicate with the residents.
Secondly, everybody wants to learn English.
I bet you anything (you name it, I'll bet it) that we can find people who don't. Those are the people I have an issue with.
What do you fear, though, from having an organic, living Spanish-speaking community within the United States?
Who the hell said I'm afraid of anything? I merely detest it when people decide to move to another country, and don't attempt to bother communicating decently with the locals. It is not everybody else's responsibility to communicate with you, it is your responsibility to communicate with them.