Well I would pass on it in my current. But if I was filthy rich, I might pander to his sense of ego just for giggles. So your ideas have merit, which were never under dispute.
But it doesn't make much logical sense to do what he's doing in my opinion.
Lets say he opened it to the public right now with a donation box out front and people put a dollar in. He may start raising money immediately. But as you said. It is your opinion he doesn't want it complete. I could agree that may be the case. Not really just based on the article though.
This rate is 100 times faster than any changes in ocean acidity in the last 20 million years, making it unlikely that marine life can somehow adapt to the changes.
Anyway I did A lot of reading Nat Geo and other articles between video games. Also talking to people about and discussing it and getting their opinions.
Seeing how badly our coral ecosystems are damaged, NASA people were commenting about this two decades ago from satellite imagery... We really aught to consider those a high priority for preservation. In my opinion.
I agree it was a fun game. I also agree about the endings. Unfortunately it really missed its full potential. I think due to time constraints with the storyline.
The officially stated purpose of Panchaea is to counter the effects of the global warming. In order to do so, the facility promotes growth of phytoplankton by dispersing iron into the ocean. The underlying expectation is that more carbon will be trapped in biomass and then deposited on the ocean floor as sediment.
NO government service should EVER be treated as a for-profit business.
I agree this is a bad idea.
I was thinking like an American. Our shitty train transit is privatized;p You may be right in your case.
Actually the few passenger cars that do run are not bad. I liked the trains in NYC and the ones that went to the smaller cities outside of it. They work fairly well in my humble opinion. The few times I used them as a visitor. They are a far cry more imperfect then the stories I hear about European trains though.
Vandalizing property is not speech guy.... Not saying graffiti doesn't have any merits. Just that your comparing apple to oranges. If the paint like washed off with the rain it would be more like free speech.
Or hire human guards. You know. Employing a few people to politely escort the kids out of the train station. I would do that job. Would have no problem detaining the ones that would not politely leave.
Well that is a bloody shame. Maybe the ownership of the project is already out of his hands and he just wants the publicity to see it completed. Like if he already sold it, but needed a bit more money to complete it.
Well if he's nice enough to let backpackers on his property without shooting them on site, thats good enough for me. He seems at least willing to let the poor view his work along with the contributers. I think his end goal may be to drive a road out there and let people on the interstates hit it as a tourist attraction.
I would disagree. If it's a small tribe, 20 or 40 people at most. Or a village. You could either escape the asshattery or directly resist the individuals giving the orders. People make the assumption that all tribes were ruled purely by force. I think if you study the matter many were ruled by responsible leadership as well. In fact there were many more forms of leadership. People could pick and choose better just what kind of politics they liked over all. Of course they took much more individual responsibility then we do now. But having to be all your own branches of the government and interact with a group of friends for protection and respect is not necessarily bad.
It's been abstracted many orders of a magnitude. This has been somewhat mitigated by the internet. But I'm pretty sure someone like Ted Turner is far outside of my monkey sphere. Even via the net. Leadership has been abstracted through several different layers. And yes the world is one great pyramid scheme. Rather than many small pyramid schemes.
Overall, yes. Individually no. Individuals before the invention of modern firearms and rail were able to basically migrate and say piss off to most. But were equally limited in escape from larger numbers. The only people they had to worry about was their neighbors. If you didn't live in Europe it wasn't to bad.
Hermit caves are no longer viable. Small nomadic tribes can no longer just disappear. There are a few exceptions sort of. Like Bedouins. But even they and their Kurdish neighbors are influenced by global economics and politics.
There is a tribe in Africa somewhere that use to not know what New York was. And didn't have a concept of "time" in their language. But I believe they've recently had enough interaction with National Geographic to no longer be immune. They were extremely primitive and isolated. This was covered by good research and journalism.
Now some asshole just has to send a text to be a twat from their epic yacht. That text gives an order and the ball rolls from there. The people executing those orders are of course happy to oblige because they are above the people being executed. And most can indirectly wash their hands of the whole bloody mess and justify it as professional business.
They why did you start off by posting a totally off topic thread? If you do not like their opinions. Provide yours in counterpoint. An effectively non-trolly statement might sway some in your favor.
Otherwise ignore them. Or start your own thread with your own qualifications.
Or you know, admit that very few people know much about space. Including the ones that think they do. Considering how vast space is and how small and political Nasa could be...
The truth is out there. But not many will ever find it. And many forget it's a constant quest to keep it up to date and patched.
Americans don't want to believe that their lifestyle choices are dictated by media and personal misjudgment. As opposed to being dictated by circumstance and technology. Because of this people are particularly resistant to the idea that there might be more advanced societies interacting with certain humans or that our power elite might actively be perusing those "aliens".
Or that our religions are heavily influenced ala, late Star Trek opener. The planet was Niburo and the Enterprise totally became an icon of those primitives. This is a not so subtle comment by your betters in Hollywood. I of course think that such influences are passing fads for a few generations like many things in human culture. But become more subtly embedded over time through repetition or interaction with other influences.
Either way religions need to be looked at objectively. And we need to assume we are being watched to take the next steps as a society. This doesn't invalidate spirituality. Or modern science. It is in addition to those things we cannot explain. Simply saying "there's nothing over the ocean" is far worse then saying aliens did it. Or "We must go find out whether aliens did it!". One creates stagnation in society. While the other mentality seeks the truth.
People who are investigating this process on their own are much further a long the path of truth then those who just repeat wrote memorized lessons from official sources of information provided by your exalted overlords.
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Well I would pass on it in my current. But if I was filthy rich, I might pander to his sense of ego just for giggles. So your ideas have merit, which were never under dispute.
But it doesn't make much logical sense to do what he's doing in my opinion.
Lets say he opened it to the public right now with a donation box out front and people put a dollar in. He may start raising money immediately. But as you said. It is your opinion he doesn't want it complete. I could agree that may be the case. Not really just based on the article though.
Just want to say thanks for the links GameboyRMH
A short jaunt to wiki tells me what I want.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_acidification
This rate is 100 times faster than any changes in ocean acidity in the last 20 million years, making it unlikely that marine life can somehow adapt to the changes.
Thankfully wiki has citations too. Wiki link is dead, but theres this article http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/04/ocean-acidification/kolbert-text
Anyway I did A lot of reading Nat Geo and other articles between video games. Also talking to people about and discussing it and getting their opinions.
This bears my further investigation... how long ago? And how fast did things change...
If we change the acidity quick enough before adaptation can manage to slowly change our ecosystems than your argument is invalid.
I'm thinking a century instead of thousands of years.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=coral+die+off
Paint it with graffiti and put gold rims on it and you will be a pretentious baller ;p
Seeing how badly our coral ecosystems are damaged, NASA people were commenting about this two decades ago from satellite imagery... We really aught to consider those a high priority for preservation. In my opinion.
I agree it was a fun game. I also agree about the endings. Unfortunately it really missed its full potential. I think due to time constraints with the storyline.
Do not worry, fuel prices and energy costs will continue to inflate faster then inflation of fiat currency =) And celebrity boobs.
You made a good choice!
Russian pipeline exploded because the micro controllers in the pumps were deliberately faulty. According to a CIA leak which I don't have a cite for.
http://deusex.wikia.com/wiki/Panchaea
Dystopian Future HO!
The officially stated purpose of Panchaea is to counter the effects of the global warming. In order to do so, the facility promotes growth of phytoplankton by dispersing iron into the ocean. The underlying expectation is that more carbon will be trapped in biomass and then deposited on the ocean floor as sediment.
I was avoiding infringement on the English language ;p
NO government service should EVER be treated as a for-profit business.
I agree this is a bad idea.
I was thinking like an American. Our shitty train transit is privatized ;p You may be right in your case.
Actually the few passenger cars that do run are not bad. I liked the trains in NYC and the ones that went to the smaller cities outside of it. They work fairly well in my humble opinion. The few times I used them as a visitor. They are a far cry more imperfect then the stories I hear about European trains though.
Vandalizing property is not speech guy.... Not saying graffiti doesn't have any merits. Just that your comparing apple to oranges. If the paint like washed off with the rain it would be more like free speech.
People can be overly critical of a good system on a bad day if they have high expectations from it.
Or hire human guards. You know. Employing a few people to politely escort the kids out of the train station. I would do that job. Would have no problem detaining the ones that would not politely leave.
Well that is a bloody shame. Maybe the ownership of the project is already out of his hands and he just wants the publicity to see it completed. Like if he already sold it, but needed a bit more money to complete it.
Too bad he sold out.
Or even to sell it to someone eventually that would do the same. Sorry for the double post.
Well if he's nice enough to let backpackers on his property without shooting them on site, thats good enough for me. He seems at least willing to let the poor view his work along with the contributers. I think his end goal may be to drive a road out there and let people on the interstates hit it as a tourist attraction.
Fair enough.
I would disagree. If it's a small tribe, 20 or 40 people at most. Or a village. You could either escape the asshattery or directly resist the individuals giving the orders. People make the assumption that all tribes were ruled purely by force. I think if you study the matter many were ruled by responsible leadership as well. In fact there were many more forms of leadership. People could pick and choose better just what kind of politics they liked over all. Of course they took much more individual responsibility then we do now. But having to be all your own branches of the government and interact with a group of friends for protection and respect is not necessarily bad.
It's been abstracted many orders of a magnitude. This has been somewhat mitigated by the internet. But I'm pretty sure someone like Ted Turner is far outside of my monkey sphere. Even via the net. Leadership has been abstracted through several different layers. And yes the world is one great pyramid scheme. Rather than many small pyramid schemes.
The guy has some interesting ideas.
No, American. No obvious Asian heritage.
Overall, yes. Individually no. Individuals before the invention of modern firearms and rail were able to basically migrate and say piss off to most. But were equally limited in escape from larger numbers. The only people they had to worry about was their neighbors. If you didn't live in Europe it wasn't to bad.
Hermit caves are no longer viable. Small nomadic tribes can no longer just disappear. There are a few exceptions sort of. Like Bedouins. But even they and their Kurdish neighbors are influenced by global economics and politics.
There is a tribe in Africa somewhere that use to not know what New York was. And didn't have a concept of "time" in their language. But I believe they've recently had enough interaction with National Geographic to no longer be immune. They were extremely primitive and isolated. This was covered by good research and journalism.
Now some asshole just has to send a text to be a twat from their epic yacht. That text gives an order and the ball rolls from there. The people executing those orders are of course happy to oblige because they are above the people being executed. And most can indirectly wash their hands of the whole bloody mess and justify it as professional business.
They why did you start off by posting a totally off topic thread? If you do not like their opinions. Provide yours in counterpoint. An effectively non-trolly statement might sway some in your favor.
Otherwise ignore them. Or start your own thread with your own qualifications.
Or you know, admit that very few people know much about space. Including the ones that think they do. Considering how vast space is and how small and political Nasa could be...
The truth is out there. But not many will ever find it. And many forget it's a constant quest to keep it up to date and patched.
Americans don't want to believe that their lifestyle choices are dictated by media and personal misjudgment. As opposed to being dictated by circumstance and technology. Because of this people are particularly resistant to the idea that there might be more advanced societies interacting with certain humans or that our power elite might actively be perusing those "aliens".
Or that our religions are heavily influenced ala, late Star Trek opener. The planet was Niburo and the Enterprise totally became an icon of those primitives. This is a not so subtle comment by your betters in Hollywood. I of course think that such influences are passing fads for a few generations like many things in human culture. But become more subtly embedded over time through repetition or interaction with other influences.
Either way religions need to be looked at objectively. And we need to assume we are being watched to take the next steps as a society. This doesn't invalidate spirituality. Or modern science. It is in addition to those things we cannot explain. Simply saying "there's nothing over the ocean" is far worse then saying aliens did it. Or "We must go find out whether aliens did it!". One creates stagnation in society. While the other mentality seeks the truth.
People who are investigating this process on their own are much further a long the path of truth then those who just repeat wrote memorized lessons from official sources of information provided by your exalted overlords.