My point of view is the exact opposite of yours. I'm not something insignificant. Without me, my world wouldn't be the same - it wouldn't even exist. For me, there's no other world but my world, to you, there are no worlds but the one you're living in, etc.
Also, as soon as you're a part of some system, the system is never the same as it would be without you. And you can't even observe a system without being a part of it and having an impact on it.
Which, by that time, might be two feet deep from the surface. Who knows what could happen to our planet in the next 10.000 years? Some small cataclysm? Damn Big Earthquake? Meteorite? (just wondering)
Haven't tried it on real hardware, but AFAIR on Qemu, on a 2.4Ghz Celeron (with no hardware virtualization, no hyperthreading, etc) Haiku booted under 10-15 seconds (if you're really interested in real boot times, why don't you download a Haiku image, get an old 1gb HD, and try it out?).
I don't know, but I see how the spam filters could've been fooled. Since you can have as many accounts as you wish, you can use them to harvest some spam you're sending by yourself, and see which messages get past the filters and which do not. Now get or write a python module for accessing GMail, another module for genetic programming, glue that together with some custom p3n!s enlargement generator and you're done. Anybody could hack such a thing in a matter of hours.
If you can't see a reason for something, the reason is most probably the money. Someone else must be making more $ for every some $ from SCO. IANAL and I don't care who or how much, but it sounds like the only reasonable explanation.
Do you realize that any bootable piece of code with support for outputting text on the screen, receiving keystrokes from keyboard and changing between printing "aaaa" and "bbbb" based on timer interrupt will fit my description? It will have support for 29.995 nonexistent devices, which could include: a feebelator, banana juice powered time travel machine, ionized cat fur, Cthulhu, dark matter dispenser...
Also, I haven't said I will provide any source or docs. So even if you'd boot it and start plugging in random devices, and see none of them working... All I'd say is: "well, none of these is one of the 30.000 devices that my OS is supporting".
There's a huge difference between supporting a lot of hardware and supporting a lot of common hardware.
I can write you an OS that would have full support for 30.000 various devices, in two days. Who cares if 29.995 of these devices are virtually nonexistent on the market that the OS is targeting?
But what is funny is the 25-years old bug in all of the BSDs, which has been spotted and hacked around (but not reported and fixed) by the SMB guys years ago:)
Wouldn't work too well over text-only terminals. Also, Amarok is somewhat heavyweight. All of this adds up with the fact that 100% of the hardware @ my home is old crappy junk - practically only one box is able to smoothly run a normal X11 desktop:)
The whole issue is why I'm currently developing a console music player that speaks stdio, has a shell-like cmdline interface with readline and completion, an audio library, lastfm support, a flexible plugin architecture, etc. So far I've only got the cmdline interpreter working flawlessly:P
So - I mean srsly - would it be possible to write a sample app in Qt4 that'd make a good use of Gnome libs and would fit well within Gnome? And won't pull some parts of Gtk along the way?
> Why would apps be built on a specific desktop library?
Gtk and Qt are just widgets. You want more than that: for example, KDE3 offers kioslave, with which you can dynamically mount devices without root privileges or rip CD audio to mp3 on-the-fly. The Kpart stuff allows you, for example, to embed text-view widget in Konqueror that looks and acts in the same way as in Kwrite. And so on.
> why aren't they built on a generic library?
Take a look at the X11 API, or at some apps written in it (xcalc, xevil, etc). With the qt3 dev headers come a few examples of pure qt3 apps - they do not look nor feel like KDE. Kadu, an IM client for the network Gadu-gadu (very popular in Poland) is written in pure Qt - and it doesn't integrate well with KDE, too.
How did the author come up with this name? Did he smashed the keyboard with an enraged basement cat or what? Or is it "Cthulhu" reversed and triple-ROT13'd?...
I'm not. Oh, maybe I am - surprised, that I haven't left/. long time ago.
> I believe in science, facts and theories.
I believe in what I see. How many of these scientific experiments have you reproduced by yourself? How many "facts" there were in history that later were laughed at?
> I'm sorry, but I'm sure psychologists and neurologists > around the world would disagree with you.
"When dealing with human mind, you need much more/empathy/ than science." < will they disagree with that too? Well, I think I'm going to disagree with MANY people who are experts in their crafts - because if believing something that is an exact opposite of their theories might help me, I'd rather help myself than not. So far this attitude has proven to be beneficial to me. Let's see what time will show.
> Remind me never to go drinking with you.
OK. I rarely drink anyway.
> Wow man, you're good.
No, I'm not good. As opposed to some psychologists I've met, I'm just/effective/. Huna is all about being effective, nothing more. Did I mention I also have some natural bioenergotherapeuthic skills? You don't have to believe this - ask people who I've helped, my family and friends.
> So which is it?
It wasn't targeted at you. I'm just generally being pissed of by people who, for example, know almost nothing about such basic concepts as subconsciousness, yet they grant themselves a right to bitch at me when I bring up the topic of how subconscious beliefs are affecting people's everyday lives. But maybe it's the wrong audience that I'm trying to talk to?...
> I had to go and look up Huna [...]
Well, a very good step. I think you should not look at what kind of person I am, or what feelings you associate with me, and just make another. Perhaps a library?... (just a small suggestion)
And... Sorry if I've pissed you off... I think I've had a bad day.
It'd be faster to write a firefox (or news reader) addon that'd catalogue all articles based on keywords. Then, comparing the sets of most common keywords that two articles share, determine if one of them might be a dupe of the another. Also, the software could search for links to TFAs.
But well... That could as well be implemented serverside.
> Not to be rude but you, good sir, are talking out of your ass.
I'm not talking out of my ass. I just said what I have observed by myself. In my observations, I simply find a lot of correlation between a state of one's mind and their health. I am aware that correlation does not mean causation, I also am aware that in many cases correlation does not mean/anything/. If you can feed me more data about your case I will consider it when bringing up similar topic in the future.
> with nothing to back it up
I don't have anything of real value to back up my POV, because I have better things to do in my life than writing down the history of random people's diseases. And even if I had, how would you tell if I hadn't faked all of it? Will you dig down right to the sources? Remember that I live in Poland, will you go to Poland and talk with those people's families? Well, even if I had anything serious to back me up, you'd just tell it's bullshit, fake, or something along that, because you believe in what you like to believe in (so does everyone, me included).
Also, try not to forget that I've mentioned: "the psychological aspect should never be underestimated when dealing with *any* illness". NO aspect that has even a slightest chance of having an impact on something we're dealing with should ever be underestimated. That's the scientific approach, isn't it?
And one more thing; many people in this thread are giving links to TFAs which try to disprove that there's a correlation between one's mental and physical health. But let's face it: we mostly know next to nothing about the true nature of human mind. It's one of the most complex things around here; everything that makes up our civilization has been created by it.
***A human mind is not a machine we can disassemble and take a look at to find out how it works or what's wrong with it***. Many psychologists can't tell a shit about what's wrong with a guy (I know *many* such cases), probably because they have problems themselves (often that's why they got interested in psychology in the first place...). If you want to dig up someone's deepest subconscious complexes, then you need not him to have a session with a psychotherapist, but for both of you to drink a few bottles of beer. I've been able to actually *help* someone who's been treated (without any effects) by at least six different psychologists, who has been dangerous to his own surroundings (a lunatic; in his "second self" he liked to pull out a knife when having a nightly walk, and then attack and *hurt* random people. Watch them being hurt. He possibly killed a few), after talking with him for less than 20 minutes. ***When dealing with human mind, you need much more/empathy/ than science.***
To everyone: As of the New Age thing - I don't give a fuck what do they say, think or do. I've long since realized that I have no real need to be associated with any formal group. My opinions are mostly based on my own observations and thinking. Of course I haven't come up all by myself with "what you think is what happens to you", but as I started to observe myself and the world around me, it seems that there's more truth in that statement that one might expect. And before you bring up "of course but I have been thinking positive thoughts and so on but shit still happened" - most of your thinking is not conscious, and complexes & beliefs add *very* much to the equation. Get a degree in psychology, or self-educate yourself to an adequate level, learn Huna, or better yet - screw formal studies, *be effective*, and we may talk.
Now, go on and burn my karma. Or at least READ this post before modding it. Slashdot... Where having an unpopular opinion or discussing unproved theories is "troll", and trying to defend your point of view is "flamebait". DUH.
...but I think that cancer is likely to be triggered by some psychological conditions. The last time I was stating that the state of one's health reflects the state of one's mind, people were laughing at me, but I really observe that many people that I know / heard of, and who suffer/died from cancer, have had some certain problems. Mainly it were: unwillingness to forgive someone something they've done long time ago; unwillingness to accept the current state of something over a longer period of time; perceived loneliness.
Well, it might not be the *only* cause, but certainly the psychological aspect should never be underestimated when dealing with *any* illness.
Yeah. Take the freedom away one bit at a time and almost nobody will notice, until it's too late. Remember the "09 f9..." incident last year? It's only outbreaks like that that are our chance. We need the "authorities" to make another such mistake.
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My point of view is the exact opposite of yours. I'm not something insignificant. Without me, my world wouldn't be the same - it wouldn't even exist. For me, there's no other world but my world, to you, there are no worlds but the one you're living in, etc.
Also, as soon as you're a part of some system, the system is never the same as it would be without you. And you can't even observe a system without being a part of it and having an impact on it.
> hundreds of feet down into bedrock
Which, by that time, might be two feet deep from the surface. Who knows what could happen to our planet in the next 10.000 years? Some small cataclysm? Damn Big Earthquake? Meteorite? (just wondering)
Haven't tried it on real hardware, but AFAIR on Qemu, on a 2.4Ghz Celeron (with no hardware virtualization, no hyperthreading, etc) Haiku booted under 10-15 seconds (if you're really interested in real boot times, why don't you download a Haiku image, get an old 1gb HD, and try it out?).
> most of whom couldn't hack together a "Hello world" to save their life
Reminds me of http://xkcd.com/208/
Excuse me, but how is this a problem for anybody? ;)
I don't know, but I see how the spam filters could've been fooled. Since you can have as many accounts as you wish, you can use them to harvest some spam you're sending by yourself, and see which messages get past the filters and which do not. Now get or write a python module for accessing GMail, another module for genetic programming, glue that together with some custom p3n!s enlargement generator and you're done. Anybody could hack such a thing in a matter of hours.
If you can't see a reason for something, the reason is most probably the money. Someone else must be making more $ for every some $ from SCO. IANAL and I don't care who or how much, but it sounds like the only reasonable explanation.
Humour aside, this might actually work...
Do you realize that any bootable piece of code with support for outputting text on the screen, receiving keystrokes from keyboard and changing between printing "aaaa" and "bbbb" based on timer interrupt will fit my description? It will have support for 29.995 nonexistent devices, which could include: a feebelator, banana juice powered time travel machine, ionized cat fur, Cthulhu, dark matter dispenser...
Also, I haven't said I will provide any source or docs. So even if you'd boot it and start plugging in random devices, and see none of them working... All I'd say is: "well, none of these is one of the 30.000 devices that my OS is supporting".
There's a huge difference between supporting a lot of hardware and supporting a lot of common hardware.
I can write you an OS that would have full support for 30.000 various devices, in two days. Who cares if 29.995 of these devices are virtually nonexistent on the market that the OS is targeting?
But what is funny is the 25-years old bug in all of the BSDs, which has been spotted and hacked around (but not reported and fixed) by the SMB guys years ago :)
Wouldn't work too well over text-only terminals. Also, Amarok is somewhat heavyweight. All of this adds up with the fact that 100% of the hardware @ my home is old crappy junk - practically only one box is able to smoothly run a normal X11 desktop :)
:P
The whole issue is why I'm currently developing a console music player that speaks stdio, has a shell-like cmdline interface with readline and completion, an audio library, lastfm support, a flexible plugin architecture, etc. So far I've only got the cmdline interpreter working flawlessly
So - I mean srsly - would it be possible to write a sample app in Qt4 that'd make a good use of Gnome libs and would fit well within Gnome? And won't pull some parts of Gtk along the way?
> Why would apps be built on a specific desktop library?
Gtk and Qt are just widgets. You want more than that: for example, KDE3 offers kioslave, with which you can dynamically mount devices without root privileges or rip CD audio to mp3 on-the-fly. The Kpart stuff allows you, for example, to embed text-view widget in Konqueror that looks and acts in the same way as in Kwrite. And so on.
> why aren't they built on a generic library?
Take a look at the X11 API, or at some apps written in it (xcalc, xevil, etc). With the qt3 dev headers come a few examples of pure qt3 apps - they do not look nor feel like KDE. Kadu, an IM client for the network Gadu-gadu (very popular in Poland) is written in pure Qt - and it doesn't integrate well with KDE, too.
Except that the Gnome apps aren't built on top of gtk, but on top of Gnome libs. And porting the Gnome libs to QT4 is what would be the pain.
What about the guys who'd like the $FUNCTIONALITY on *both* GUI and CLI?
I've been trying to control Amarok with DCOP && ssh from another room, but this isn't really a sane solution...
> Qtpfsgui
Holy crap, how does one spell that? o_0
How did the author come up with this name? Did he smashed the keyboard with an enraged basement cat or what? Or is it "Cthulhu" reversed and triple-ROT13'd?...
> don't be surprised
/. long time ago.
/empathy/ than science." < will they disagree with that too? Well, I think I'm going to disagree with MANY people who are experts in their crafts - because if believing something that is an exact opposite of their theories might help me, I'd rather help myself than not. So far this attitude has proven to be beneficial to me. Let's see what time will show.
/effective/. Huna is all about being effective, nothing more. Did I mention I also have some natural bioenergotherapeuthic skills? You don't have to believe this - ask people who I've helped, my family and friends.
I'm not. Oh, maybe I am - surprised, that I haven't left
> I believe in science, facts and theories.
I believe in what I see. How many of these scientific experiments have you reproduced by yourself? How many "facts" there were in history that later were laughed at?
> I'm sorry, but I'm sure psychologists and neurologists
> around the world would disagree with you.
"When dealing with human mind, you need much more
> Remind me never to go drinking with you.
OK. I rarely drink anyway.
> Wow man, you're good.
No, I'm not good. As opposed to some psychologists I've met, I'm just
> So which is it?
It wasn't targeted at you. I'm just generally being pissed of by people who, for example, know almost nothing about such basic concepts as subconsciousness, yet they grant themselves a right to bitch at me when I bring up the topic of how subconscious beliefs are affecting people's everyday lives. But maybe it's the wrong audience that I'm trying to talk to?...
> I had to go and look up Huna [...]
Well, a very good step. I think you should not look at what kind of person I am, or what feelings you associate with me, and just make another. Perhaps a library?... (just a small suggestion)
And... Sorry if I've pissed you off... I think I've had a bad day.
You can try the old way: grab the source and build it. I use Debian btw.
It'd be faster to write a firefox (or news reader) addon that'd catalogue all articles based on keywords. Then, comparing the sets of most common keywords that two articles share, determine if one of them might be a dupe of the another. Also, the software could search for links to TFAs.
But well... That could as well be implemented serverside.
s/Lynx/Elinks/
NetBeans 5 seems faster than Eclipse on a 2.4 Celeron with 256 MB of RAM... But NB6 really sucks on the resources ;/
> Not to be rude but you, good sir, are talking out of your ass.
/anything/. If you can feed me more data about your case I will consider it when bringing up similar topic in the future.
/empathy/ than science.***
I'm not talking out of my ass. I just said what I have observed by myself. In my observations, I simply find a lot of correlation between a state of one's mind and their health. I am aware that correlation does not mean causation, I also am aware that in many cases correlation does not mean
> with nothing to back it up
I don't have anything of real value to back up my POV, because I have better things to do in my life than writing down the history of random people's diseases. And even if I had, how would you tell if I hadn't faked all of it? Will you dig down right to the sources? Remember that I live in Poland, will you go to Poland and talk with those people's families? Well, even if I had anything serious to back me up, you'd just tell it's bullshit, fake, or something along that, because you believe in what you like to believe in (so does everyone, me included).
Also, try not to forget that I've mentioned: "the psychological aspect should never be underestimated when dealing with *any* illness". NO aspect that has even a slightest chance of having an impact on something we're dealing with should ever be underestimated. That's the scientific approach, isn't it?
And one more thing; many people in this thread are giving links to TFAs which try to disprove that there's a correlation between one's mental and physical health. But let's face it: we mostly know next to nothing about the true nature of human mind. It's one of the most complex things around here; everything that makes up our civilization has been created by it.
***A human mind is not a machine we can disassemble and take a look at to find out how it works or what's wrong with it***. Many psychologists can't tell a shit about what's wrong with a guy (I know *many* such cases), probably because they have problems themselves (often that's why they got interested in psychology in the first place...). If you want to dig up someone's deepest subconscious complexes, then you need not him to have a session with a psychotherapist, but for both of you to drink a few bottles of beer. I've been able to actually *help* someone who's been treated (without any effects) by at least six different psychologists, who has been dangerous to his own surroundings (a lunatic; in his "second self" he liked to pull out a knife when having a nightly walk, and then attack and *hurt* random people. Watch them being hurt. He possibly killed a few), after talking with him for less than 20 minutes. ***When dealing with human mind, you need much more
To everyone: As of the New Age thing - I don't give a fuck what do they say, think or do. I've long since realized that I have no real need to be associated with any formal group. My opinions are mostly based on my own observations and thinking. Of course I haven't come up all by myself with "what you think is what happens to you", but as I started to observe myself and the world around me, it seems that there's more truth in that statement that one might expect. And before you bring up "of course but I have been thinking positive thoughts and so on but shit still happened" - most of your thinking is not conscious, and complexes & beliefs add *very* much to the equation. Get a degree in psychology, or self-educate yourself to an adequate level, learn Huna, or better yet - screw formal studies, *be effective*, and we may talk.
Now, go on and burn my karma. Or at least READ this post before modding it. Slashdot... Where having an unpopular opinion or discussing unproved theories is "troll", and trying to defend your point of view is "flamebait". DUH.
...but I think that cancer is likely to be triggered by some psychological conditions. The last time I was stating that the state of one's health reflects the state of one's mind, people were laughing at me, but I really observe that many people that I know / heard of, and who suffer/died from cancer, have had some certain problems. Mainly it were: unwillingness to forgive someone something they've done long time ago; unwillingness to accept the current state of something over a longer period of time; perceived loneliness.
Well, it might not be the *only* cause, but certainly the psychological aspect should never be underestimated when dealing with *any* illness.
Yeah. Take the freedom away one bit at a time and almost nobody will notice, until it's too late. Remember the "09 f9..." incident last year? It's only outbreaks like that that are our chance. We need the "authorities" to make another such mistake.
((This message is encrypted with double-ROT13 to ensure security and privacy.))