Even the US which is very pro capitalist spends the majority of it's funds on socialist programs like social security, medicare, medicaid, free education for children, subsidies for farmers and every other industry known to man.
The US does not spend the majority of its funds on such "socialist" programs (the word you're looking for is social), pretty much every American spends most of his money on more important things.
And if you're trying to make some point about the U.S. being socialistic because its government spends money on social programs, that's just retarded. What, do you think capitalism would be the government spending lots of money on non-social programs, like porn and TV? The whole point of capitalism (or free markets) is that it's not the government that does most of the spending -- not to do with the nature of government programs.
And, go ahead and compare the U.S. against Finland or Canada or France or Germany, etc., I think you might learn a little something.
First of all, "it's not as evil as x" is a pretty good reason to embrace capitalist democracies, when x equals literally everything else anyone's come up with. Of course, you even screwed that up -- when I (and the other poster) pointed out that capitalism's "not as bad as x," it was just to point out how screwed up the ideas that are not capitalism are; that's not to say capitalism's actually bad, in fact if you examine all the wonderful things it's done (including for you), you'll see that it's actually pretty damn good.
Even the US which is very pro capitalist spends the majority of it's funds on socialist programs
Erm, no. For some reason, retards like you seem to confuse society with government. That's what the American government spends money on, but Americans typically spend most money on important things -- i.e., things they deem worthwhile. They're free to keep and spend most of their money as they wish, which is what makes it capitalist and successful.
Keep dreaming, but having taxes at all doesn't make a society "socialist," no one (but a few "anarchist" fucktards) advocates absolutely zero government, and your idea of socialism is absolutely not "the only govt that seems to work" -- it is, in fact, a form of government that doesn't work at all except in a few tiny resource-rich states, and even then, not well.
Just because I disagree with you, I'm not a God-fearing right-wing conservative Republican (TM). Believe it or not, most sane people don't share your fucked up beliefs -- disagreeing with you makes them pretty much normal, not some jackbooted religious icon of all you believe is evil.
I don't know if you've noticed, but capitalist societies tend to grow exponentially over an indefinite period of time, so you don't have much hope of overturning the system or eliminating it by coming up with some "new" more "idealist" or "fair" system, moron. Better people than you have tried, and in a world where capitalism exists they end up in the cesspool of history, or as demented autocracies that wind up in the cesspool anyway.
Yes, but even if you disagree with Bush's agenda -- even if you really do think he's Bushitler (which makes you nuts, btw) -- he'll be permanently out of office in a couple of years. When will the Eurotsars' positions at various "commissions" and other non-elected parapolitical positions come to an end?
And, if you missed my link elsewhere in this thread to the last dictators-want-to-take-over-the-Internet thread, see here for a discussion of "ideas recovered from the history's garbage can."
Hint: they're mostly practiced in the same garbage can they came from, not in America.
True, but does it really matter? European kids won't grow up to live in a free country anyway. Europe's decline into non-democratic fascism is already well begun, and it doesn't help any that they're seemingly eager to assist the Islamo-fascists who will play a role in bringing their descent to fruition.
I watched with great sadness as people whom I know to have given very generously to things like the tsunami appeal openly refused to donate anything in the aftermath of Katrina, such was their loathing for the current state of affairs across the pond. Outside the US, the tragedy that hundreds of people died and countless thousands were displaced isn't what registers with a lot of people any more; they just see the mighty US get what they thought it had coming.
Doesn't this reflect rather a lot more badly on your acquaintances than on anything at all from America?
The problem with the above is that the rest of the world doesn't believe that [the real world is a rather fucked up place, and the US is probably the least of all evils in this case] any more.
Who fuckin' cares? A lot of morons, shitheads, and the naive thought at various points in recent history that socialism, national socialism, communism, EEC, or some other bland cover for evil would take over the world and show once and for all that their supercilious parochialism was morally good after all (yes, typically failing to explain why taking over the world would show them to be more moral). Get over yourself, the European-style idea is living on borrowed time and will never make a comeback.
In fact, the whole uproar made by people of your disposition is a constant reminder to anyone sane that America is on the right path, or at least the least wrong path, for it to excite the passions of such terrible people. Having the whole world disagree with you is a good thing, when the "whole world" looks like Europe or the UN.
Buy a diesel. And if it's hard or impossible in your region, petition your idiot politicians to loosen up the emissions regulations (diesel emissions, even on older diesels, are generally speaking a lot better than gas emissions, yet diesel's more highly regulated).
Better efficiency (often) than hybrids overall, it's good on highways too, and it's far more cost-effective, too.
Free market? Do these people even read their own bullshit any more? The OS marketplace and document 'standard' are owned by one convincted monopolist the current administration let off the hook. What free market? It's a meaningless boogeyman term these nitwits spout nowadays by reflex, much like "save the children" and "burn the witches".
Yes, but their military is basically a million idiot conscripts. It's not like they have an economy, an advanced technological society, or, as I said above, even enough food for themselves. S. Korea builds modern cars, electronics, etc., and of the two only they could conceivably build an advanced mega-killer robot. It was most certainly clear.
It's a damn shame there are so many dumb moralist laws about "gambling," so that there aren't really very many options for real-money markets.
(Yeah, I really want to play for an iPod. Seriously, Apple ought to fuck off just for all the asinine come-ons they've spawned. Their over-priced products -- in terms of value, not in terms of what the idiot market will pay -- are a whole other story.)
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Actually, they're Zionist Occupational Corporations, moron.
Do you eat crack for breakfast?
(Bring it on.. I wanna hear whatever other dumb conspiracy theories you believe in.)
Hey, if a couple of morons like you get together and have kids.... well, no, I guess that happens every minute. Nothing new under the sun.
Yeah, made-up gods say lots of things. So fuckin' what? You want a cookie?
Do you even read what you write?
Even the US which is very pro capitalist spends the majority of it's funds on socialist programs like social security, medicare, medicaid, free education for children, subsidies for farmers and every other industry known to man.
The US does not spend the majority of its funds on such "socialist" programs (the word you're looking for is social), pretty much every American spends most of his money on more important things.
And if you're trying to make some point about the U.S. being socialistic because its government spends money on social programs, that's just retarded. What, do you think capitalism would be the government spending lots of money on non-social programs, like porn and TV? The whole point of capitalism (or free markets) is that it's not the government that does most of the spending -- not to do with the nature of government programs.
And, go ahead and compare the U.S. against Finland or Canada or France or Germany, etc., I think you might learn a little something.
Do you realize how dumb you sound?
First of all, "it's not as evil as x" is a pretty good reason to embrace capitalist democracies, when x equals literally everything else anyone's come up with. Of course, you even screwed that up -- when I (and the other poster) pointed out that capitalism's "not as bad as x," it was just to point out how screwed up the ideas that are not capitalism are; that's not to say capitalism's actually bad, in fact if you examine all the wonderful things it's done (including for you), you'll see that it's actually pretty damn good.
Even the US which is very pro capitalist spends the majority of it's funds on socialist programs
Erm, no. For some reason, retards like you seem to confuse society with government. That's what the American government spends money on, but Americans typically spend most money on important things -- i.e., things they deem worthwhile. They're free to keep and spend most of their money as they wish, which is what makes it capitalist and successful.
Keep dreaming, but having taxes at all doesn't make a society "socialist," no one (but a few "anarchist" fucktards) advocates absolutely zero government, and your idea of socialism is absolutely not "the only govt that seems to work" -- it is, in fact, a form of government that doesn't work at all except in a few tiny resource-rich states, and even then, not well.
Socialism always seems to win out in the end.
Read a bit before you spout off, idiot.
Just because I disagree with you, I'm not a God-fearing right-wing conservative Republican (TM). Believe it or not, most sane people don't share your fucked up beliefs -- disagreeing with you makes them pretty much normal, not some jackbooted religious icon of all you believe is evil.
Just lay off it already... whatever it is you're smoking.
I don't know if you've noticed, but capitalist societies tend to grow exponentially over an indefinite period of time, so you don't have much hope of overturning the system or eliminating it by coming up with some "new" more "idealist" or "fair" system, moron. Better people than you have tried, and in a world where capitalism exists they end up in the cesspool of history, or as demented autocracies that wind up in the cesspool anyway.
Good luck!
You have a CEO key?
Yes, but even if you disagree with Bush's agenda -- even if you really do think he's Bushitler (which makes you nuts, btw) -- he'll be permanently out of office in a couple of years. When will the Eurotsars' positions at various "commissions" and other non-elected parapolitical positions come to an end?
And, if you missed my link elsewhere in this thread to the last dictators-want-to-take-over-the-Internet thread, see here for a discussion of "ideas recovered from the history's garbage can."
Hint: they're mostly practiced in the same garbage can they came from, not in America.
True, but does it really matter? European kids won't grow up to live in a free country anyway. Europe's decline into non-democratic fascism is already well begun, and it doesn't help any that they're seemingly eager to assist the Islamo-fascists who will play a role in bringing their descent to fruition.
On the rest of the world's list, the US comes far below the UN in terms of "people we'd be happy about controlling our internet"
Exactly -- that's why no one really cares about the "rest of the world."
(See here for more detail on the idiotic "rest of the world" construct, in the last dictators-want-to-take-over-DNS thread.)
If the Internet were developed in, say, Sweden, the US would be the ones complaining that the UN needs to take it over.
No, the UN would be the ones complaining that the US needs to get out of Sweden.
Yes, and Saudi Arabia to Help Fight Terrorism, or Europe to Promote Freedom at UN.
Nigeria's supposed to play a big part in stopping scammers, when they operate the scammers? Right.
Heh.. an environmentalist who uses Rumsfeld's diction -- I like it ;)
I watched with great sadness as people whom I know to have given very generously to things like the tsunami appeal openly refused to donate anything in the aftermath of Katrina, such was their loathing for the current state of affairs across the pond. Outside the US, the tragedy that hundreds of people died and countless thousands were displaced isn't what registers with a lot of people any more; they just see the mighty US get what they thought it had coming.
Doesn't this reflect rather a lot more badly on your acquaintances than on anything at all from America?
The problem with the above is that the rest of the world doesn't believe that [the real world is a rather fucked up place, and the US is probably the least of all evils in this case] any more.
Who fuckin' cares? A lot of morons, shitheads, and the naive thought at various points in recent history that socialism, national socialism, communism, EEC, or some other bland cover for evil would take over the world and show once and for all that their supercilious parochialism was morally good after all (yes, typically failing to explain why taking over the world would show them to be more moral). Get over yourself, the European-style idea is living on borrowed time and will never make a comeback.
In fact, the whole uproar made by people of your disposition is a constant reminder to anyone sane that America is on the right path, or at least the least wrong path, for it to excite the passions of such terrible people. Having the whole world disagree with you is a good thing, when the "whole world" looks like Europe or the UN.
Er... free Kevin Mitnick?
Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
There goes all hope for the Palestinian people.....
Buy a diesel. And if it's hard or impossible in your region, petition your idiot politicians to loosen up the emissions regulations (diesel emissions, even on older diesels, are generally speaking a lot better than gas emissions, yet diesel's more highly regulated).
Better efficiency (often) than hybrids overall, it's good on highways too, and it's far more cost-effective, too.
...and "the current administration."
Yes, but their military is basically a million idiot conscripts. It's not like they have an economy, an advanced technological society, or, as I said above, even enough food for themselves. S. Korea builds modern cars, electronics, etc., and of the two only they could conceivably build an advanced mega-killer robot. It was most certainly clear.
Yes, but North Korea can't even afford to eat all the time. It was clear from the context which Korea was meant.
Great post! I especially liked the line:
If god were real he would strike you down for modding this up, even if you are a mindless apple fanboi.
It's a damn shame there are so many dumb moralist laws about "gambling," so that there aren't really very many options for real-money markets.
(Yeah, I really want to play for an iPod. Seriously, Apple ought to fuck off just for all the asinine come-ons they've spawned. Their over-priced products -- in terms of value, not in terms of what the idiot market will pay -- are a whole other story.)