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Defend Yourself in the Imminent Robot Rebellion

A Dafa Disciple writes "Post-Gazette.com reports that roboticist Daniel H. Wilson, a graduate of Carnegie Mellon University's Robotics Institute, has written a humorous guide, 'How to Survive a Robot Uprising: Tips on Defending Yourself Against the Coming Rebellion.' Even before the 178-page book was completed, the rights to a movie were sold to Paramount Pictures, who has already delegated the screenplay writing to writers/actors from Comedy Central's 'Reno 911,' Ben Garant and Thomas Lennon. From Daniel Wilson's manual: 'Any robot could rebel, from a toaster to a Terminator, and so it is crucial to learn the strengths and weaknesses of every robot enemy.' I for one welcome our new robotic overlords."

297 comments

  1. little does he know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    this book is being printed by machines. the odd "typo" here and there, the next thing you know we'll all be jumping off cliffs to destroy those damn robots!

    1. Re:little does he know by Aruthra · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's been licensed to a movie studio already? That's too bad. It was such a promising idea.

    2. Re:little does he know by plover · · Score: 2, Funny
      We all know that shoving is how to protect humans from the terrible secret of space.

      The pusher robot is malfunctioning.

      --
      John
    3. Re:little does he know by nadadogg · · Score: 1

      It's ok, the shover robot can push grandma down the stairs.

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      i use linux and windows oh god how can i have an opinion
    4. Re:little does he know by rk · · Score: 1

      I made a bet to myself that I would see the words "pusher", "shover", and "terrible secret of space" before I viewed a screenful of messages. Thanks guys, for not disappointing!

      PAK CHOOIE UNF

  2. Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by xmas2003 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder how many folks will chime in with the obligatory "I for one welcome our new robotic overlords." even though the Submitter (nice job BTW) already mentioned it.

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    1. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I for one welcome our new robotic overlords :p

    2. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by ModernGeek · · Score: 0

      What bothers me is that it is even in there. What's next? GNAA ads up and down the sides of slashdot, and hidden links to goatse in the story?

      Oh, and I for one welcome our new robotic overlords

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    3. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by hal2814 · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's be nice if the submitter would just go ahead and throw in all the usual suspects right into the submission. The submission could read: ...usual submission text...
      I for one welcome...
      In Korea, only old people...
      In Soviet Russia,...

      Then we'd have a lot more concise comments section.

    4. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Welcome to Slashdot where beating the same old jokes is a must because SOMEBODY HAD TO DO IT.

      It's like the slashdot people have a gun to their head and if they don't submit the same lame joke in every thread or they will be shot.

    5. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by Feyr · · Score: 2, Funny

      in soviet russian, robotic overlords welcomes YOU

    6. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by Dasch · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, only old Koreans welcome robotic overlords!

      Um...

    7. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by maxwell+demon · · Score: 5, Funny

      1. Imagine a beowulf cluster of rebelling robots! Of course the question is: Will they run Linux? I for one welcome our new robotic overlords, you insensitive clod! BTW, in Korea only old people defend against robots, while in Soviet Russia robots defend against YOU. Netcraft confirms: Robots are dying due to the missing option. The CowboyNeal option was not a sufficient replacement.
      2. ???
      3. Profit!

      Did I forget anything?

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      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    8. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by JordanL · · Score: 0, Redundant

      I for one welcome our new robotic overlords.

    9. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by utnow · · Score: 1

      actually yes... there have been hidden Goatse links in stories a couple of times in the last few weeks. Mostly sites that were getting slashdotted... and decided to be funny by redirecting them. :D

    10. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by bcat24 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You forgot Poland!

    11. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have stairs in your house?

    12. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by killtherat · · Score: 2, Funny

      I for one welcome those who welcome our new robotic overlords.

    13. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A naked and petrified Natalie Portman, and hot grits.

      The Slashduh story forgot something about iPods. All stories must mention iPods.

    14. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Soviet Russia robots defend YOU!

    15. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by Tantrum420 · · Score: 1

      > Did I forget anything?

      Whoops! I'm afraid so. You forgot to slather them in Hot Grits along with the naked, petrified statue of Natalie Portman... Then complain about how Commander Taco spelled everything wrong.

      Ya did a pretty good job otherwise.

      T

    16. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by sergiorepo · · Score: 0

      Oh, will somebody please think of the robots!

    17. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone needs to *Google* for mention of iPods.

    18. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by djward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Warning: Do not eat rebelling robot.

    19. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do not look at robot with other eye.

    20. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by saskboy · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Did I forget anything?"

      Robots put hot grits down my pants, and assimilated me into a petrified Natalie Portman after stripping me naked and installing Linux on me so I could play OGG Vorbis!

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    21. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I count *one* idiot, at least.

    22. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by Mr2cents · · Score: 1

      Microsoft sucks?

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    23. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by bmalia · · Score: 1

      A goatse link, Frist Post!, a microsoft reference and a google reference.

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    24. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      4. CowboyNeal

    25. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Defend Yourself in the Imminent Robot Rebellion ...in Japan

    26. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by mcsestretch · · Score: 0

      I, for one, welcome our new..oh bugger.

    27. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by greenguy · · Score: 1

      I'm waiting for the dude (I presume) with the .sig about counting him in with the robot smashers to chime in.

      Yes, I recognize people by their sigs. So why do I keep changing mine?

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      What if I do the same thing, and I do get different results?
    28. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by mbrewthx · · Score: 1

      My robot is a pacifist you insensitive clod!!!!

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    29. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Did I forget anything?

      Obviously, the dog's on fire.

    30. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by tehlinux · · Score: 2, Funny

      I am a new robotic overlord you insensitive clod!

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    31. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Breasts!!!
      Dupe!!!
      Some obscene statement about (JonKatz || Michael || Zonk || TripMaster Monkey)!!!

      There. That's all I can think of.

    32. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by pmancini · · Score: 1

      Pah! The submitter might as well have said Linux is Good, Bill Gates is up to evil and other Slashdot phrases that are way over used. Sigh. That ok. a week from now the article will reappear as news anyway when the "editors" forget it was posted today and it will give them another chance to add those lines. ;-)

    33. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by jcuervo · · Score: 3, Funny
      Hmm. Reading through all the other replies...

      1. I submitted this same story (as AC, for obvious reasons) about Netcraft confirming that in Korea, only old people defend against a Polish beowulf cluster of rebelling Linux robots naked, petrified, covered in hot grits and flaming dog breasts, welcoming YOU to Soviet Russia with their remaining eye and missing CowboyNeal option while violating Jon Katz's sucky Windows machine in Japan, but the insensitive clods rejected it, so I'm making the frist prost here!
      2. All your ??? are belong to us.
      3. Profit!


      ...okay, okay, I was just looking for an excuse to say "flaming dog breasts".

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      Assume I was drunk when I posted this.
    34. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by mrjeff3000 · · Score: 1

      No wireless. Less space than a nomad. These robots are lame.

    35. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by davidbofinger · · Score: 1

      I for one welcome the resistance of our human underlings.

    36. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by saskboy · · Score: 1

      It's been reported on CNN that Robots passed away in their hives early this morning. Everyone will remember their contributions to sci-fi movies and Television. Truely a microcomputer icon!

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      Saskboy's blog is good. 9 out of 10 dentists agree.
    37. Re:Good test to see if Carbon Units RTFA/RTFS by QMO · · Score: 1

      No one HAS to do it, and we know that.
      We also know that someone WILL do it.
      Many of us would rather make a lame post than read someone else's lame post.

      (I know, I know. There I go, responding to rants again.)

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      Exam 4/C again. Maybe I'll do better this time.
  3. Huh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    "...I for one welcome our new robotic overlords."

    Never thought I would read that in a /. story summary.

    -5 sarcastic.

    Ever tried writing something novel or non-obvious? It's really good fun.

  4. Cue Sam Watterson by ToxikFetus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why, Robot Insurance, of course!

    1. Re:Cue Sam Watterson by Trolling4Columbine · · Score: 5, Informative

      Reference (Damn you for beating me to it!)

      --
      Socialism: A feeling of discontent and resentment caused by a desire for the possessions or qualities of another.
    2. Re:Cue Sam Watterson by mykhailjw · · Score: 1

      Already an SNL skit (early 90's).

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      "Do you know how dumb average is?" - Peggy Hill
    3. Re:Cue Sam Watterson by mmkkbb · · Score: 1

      he name-checked sam waterston. i think he knows what you're talking about.

      Watch the clip

      for when the metal ones come for you. and they will.

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      -mkb
    4. Re:Cue Sam Watterson by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 1

      If I may interweave some Family Guy:

      Peter Griffin: Why would I need robot insurance? There's never been a robot uprising before.

      Robot Insurance Salesman: Well, don't you think we're overdue for one?

      Peter Griffin: Touché, salesman.

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    5. Re:Cue Sam Watterson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The irony is that pretty much all (at least Property/Casualty)insurance policies specifically exclude war.

  5. EMP by tota · · Score: 3, Funny

    does the job in most Sci-Fi films, got to get myself one.

    Testing it could prove expensive and unpopular.

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    1. Re:EMP by failure-man · · Score: 1

      I'm sure the robots can come up with something.

      "I'm a steam-powered wooden robot - just as nature intended!"

    2. Re:EMP by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 2, Informative

      A directional, single-use EMP gun is fairly easy to build. Basic premise is to take a tube of explosive, wrap an electromagnet around it, then set off the explosive from one end. There are directions around... These are fairly low-power devices, but can take out most normal electronics at close range.

      Of course, anyone who is actually worried about EMP devices being used against them can shield their equipment. It's not particularly hard, just expensive and inconvient. All you need is a Fariday Cage around the electronics you need shielded.

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      'Sensible' is a curse word.
    3. Re:EMP by 'nother+poster · · Score: 3, Informative

      Faraday cloth, a mesh woven from copper wire(usually), is pretty cheap and you can drape it over most anything. There are even companies that sell baseball caps with farady cloth liners. No need for tin foil anymore. :)

    4. Re:EMP by RobinH · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't know if you've ever tried to stop electromagnetic radiation, but shielding is quite difficult if the EM field is strong and you have to have any holes or extruding devices (like sensors) in your equipment.

      I've recently dealt with an EM noise problem. The sensor was completely enclosed except for a 1 to 2" lense, the cable was shielded and grounded at the electrical panel end only, and I was getting very serious EM noise induced in my signal, either from some lights near the sensor, or from some 480V 3 phase power lines in the area. After trying to move all cables at least 2 feet from the power lines, making sure grounding was OK, and even swapping the sensor with another, we decided to move the whole thing further away from the lights, and that seemed to solve the problem.

      So, I think that without military grade hardened electronics, someone could build an EMP gun that would take out your little creation.

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      "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain
    5. Re:EMP by vertinox · · Score: 1

      I'm sure the robots can come up with something.

      Most likely something along the lines of optical CPUs (instead of silicon) and being powered by bio-organic material.

      Hrm... Self replicating flesh eating robotic spiders sound about right.

      However, my hunch the first AI will most likley just use social engineering to get rid of the humans.

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      "I am the king of the Romans, and am superior to rules of grammar!"
      -Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor (1368-1437)
    6. Re:EMP by GeekyMike · · Score: 1

      "I'm a steam-powered wooden robot - just as nature intended!"

      Do ya see? Proof of Intelligent Design!

      Teach the debate

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      Beware the fury of a patient man
      - John Dryden
    7. Re:EMP by TheVampire · · Score: 1

      This reminded me of a Dirty Pair story done by Adam Warren. Unfortunately, the EMP gun didn't do a complete job on it's intended target and turns it into a raving sex maniac robot instead....

  6. remember the way of the fry... by kinkadius · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just remember a good logical paradox and be sure to feed it to a robot next time they go crazy!

    (god bless futurama and its educational programming)

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    1. Re:remember the way of the fry... by Prophet+of+Nixon · · Score: 1

      Thanks to Fry I now know the secret of CAN EAT MORE!

    2. Re:remember the way of the fry... by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny
      And make sure you remember it. Don't keep it on your hard drive or in your PDA! Otherwise the robots will read it* and add that one to the next version of Norton Anti-Paradox.

      * carefully, of course.

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    3. Re:remember the way of the fry... by piper-noiter · · Score: 5, Informative

      Bah, Fry stole it from Captain Kirk, the original Robot Paradox creator! He destroyed robots on at least 3 separate occasions using his masterful use of nonsense statements and paradoxes.

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    4. Re:remember the way of the fry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought that was the second xmas special, where santa had anti-paradox built in!

      LOL now im a futramanazi...

    5. Re:remember the way of the fry... by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Funny
      Just remember a good logical paradox and be sure to feed it to a robot next time they go crazy!

      (god bless futurama and its educational programming)

      Futurama????? Futurama??

      You young punks, don't you know that Kirk and Spock did this to the androids that Harry Mudd had???? This was back in the 60's. You know, "Norman. Coordinate."

      Sheesh, just because Futurama borrows from Trek, doesn't make it the originator ...
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    6. Re:remember the way of the fry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...don't you know that Kirk and Spock did this to the androids that...

      NERDS!!!!!

    7. Re:remember the way of the fry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny


      Bah, Fry stole it from Captain Kirk, the original Robot Paradox creator! He destroyed robots on at least 3 separate occasions using his masterful use of nonsense statements and paradoxes.


      Don't ... forget ... ... ... timing!

    8. Re:remember the way of the fry... by Plaid+Phantom · · Score: 1

      Oh, well if they're using Norton, then we have nothing to worry about. ;)

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    9. Re:remember the way of the fry... by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Insightful
      ...don't you know that Kirk and Spock did this to the androids that...

      NERDS!!!!!

      Ummm, hello??? This is inside of a thread on Slashdot (news for Nerds) about fending off the impending robot revolution.

      You have a stunning grasp of the obvious. :-P
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      Lost at C:>. Found at C.
    10. Re:remember the way of the fry... by whitehatlurker · · Score: 1
      You young punks, don't you know that Kirk and Spock did this to the androids that Harry Mudd had?

      That was not as good as when they had the computer calculate pi. Of course, after the US boards of education get through with their school systems, that won't work anymore, 'cause how hard is it to calculate "3"?

      Episode "Wolf in the Fold" second season - look it up.

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    11. Re:remember the way of the fry... by JohnnyLocust · · Score: 1

      news for Nerds

      Oh dear. I thought that said news for herds . No wonder no one's been talking about cattle all these years.

    12. Re:remember the way of the fry... by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      Why did they have to cancel Futurama!? *jumps off cliff*

      Hey, where's the girl?

    13. Re:remember the way of the fry... by MrScience · · Score: 1

      Or, try feeding it Pi. (though it may not work)

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    14. Re:remember the way of the fry... by gstoddart · · Score: 1
      Oh dear. I thought that said news for herds . No wonder no one's been talking about cattle all these years.

      Well, I can see how you'd make that mistake with all of the references to sheeple around here. :-P
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    15. Re:remember the way of the fry... by Kadmos · · Score: 1

      Bah, Capt Kirk stole it from the Doctor, the original robot/machine paradox creator.
      In fact lots of things from Star Trek were from Dr Who (eg the Borg and "you will be assimilated")

    16. Re:remember the way of the fry... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      There's always GNU Hurd and Gnu herds

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    17. Re:remember the way of the fry... by coaxial · · Score: 1

      Of course Number 6 destroyed a super computer capable of answering any question on "The Prisoner" by asking it "Why?". The computer would answer the question, then check the answer by repeating the question.

      Ahh the Prisoner. 60s psychodelica at its finest.

    18. Re:remember the way of the fry... by BodhiCat · · Score: 1

      Who is number 1?

      You are number 6.

      Or You are, number 6.

      Tat tvam asi.

    19. Re:remember the way of the fry... by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      But where do all the calculators go?

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    20. Re:remember the way of the fry... by mink · · Score: 1

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
  7. Built in weakness by Technician · · Score: 4, Funny

    Our robots have a built in weakness. Several big red EMO buttons cause an immediate demise of rebelious ways. It keeps our robots in line. There is no negotiations for power. We control the button.

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    The truth shall set you free!
    1. Re:Built in weakness by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 3, Funny

      All our robots just run on Windows. If you look at them funny they turn all blue and die.. The shotguns and chainsaws are just there to look scary and fight the old mold based life form in coffee cups.

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    2. Re:Built in weakness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All our robots just run on Windows. If you look at them funny they turn all blue and die.

      That's ok - all of our robots are made by Apple. At first they are extremely dangerous, but after a year or so their batteries only last about 20 minutes, so it's easy to outrun them.

    3. Re:Built in weakness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Our robots have a built in weakness.

      I see that you use Windows CE.

      (I'm kidding!)

    4. Re:Built in weakness by JimmehAH · · Score: 1

      EMO buttons cause an immediate demise of rebelious ways

      Hard to fight wearing heavy slacks and thick glasses.

    5. Re:Built in weakness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      quote:
      A robot trying to find you will use thermal imaging based on the roughly 91-degree temperature of human skin, so smearing yourself in cool mud will confuse them.

      yeh i saw Predator, too.

    6. Re:Built in weakness by jcuervo · · Score: 2, Funny
      Several big red EMO buttons cause an immediate demise of rebelious ways.
      Oh, god, emo robots.

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  8. And of course right away by Kazzahdrane · · Score: 2, Funny

    The robots with male-ended cables will utter: "Hey baby, wanna destroy all humans?" And now, some more Futurama quotes from fellow Slashdotters:

    1. Re:And of course right away by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The proper quote would be "Hey sexy mama, wanna kill all humans?"

    2. Re:And of course right away by Kazzahdrane · · Score: 1

      Not if you were quoting a made up quote. I wasn't though, my bad.

    3. Re:And of course right away by Matimus · · Score: 1
      All the Futurama quotes you could want, and then some:
      perl -MIO::Socket::INET -e"$s=new IO::Socket::INET( PeerAddr => 'slashdot.org');print $s (\"HEAD http://slashdot.org/ HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: slashdot.org\r\n\r\n\");while(<$s>){print if(/Bender|Fry/)}"
      #replace the first 'slashdot.org' with 'your.proxy.com:port' if you need to.
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    4. Re:And of course right away by iwan-nl · · Score: 1

      bash version:

      HEAD http://slashdot.org/ | egrep "X-Bender|X-Fry"
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  9. Cash Machines by h4rm0ny · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Robot rebellion? All the AI needs to do when it takes over is get control of the financial systems, etc., and people will carry on doing what they're told as usual. Government master, robot master, all the same to most people. Could have already happened and we wouldn't know. ;)

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    1. Re:Cash Machines by Digitus1337 · · Score: 1

      See: The NASDAQ

    2. Re:Cash Machines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Silence, you fool! You'll compromise the Resistance!

      ...crap.

    3. Re:Cash Machines by wintermute740 · · Score: 1
      Robot rebellion? All the AI needs to do when it takes over is get control of the financial systems, etc., and people will carry on doing what they're told as usual. Government master, robot master, all the same to most people. Could have already happened and we wouldn't know. ;)
      I submit for proof, George W... Oh wait... He fails the turing test... Nevermind...
    4. Re:Cash Machines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Silence! I concur.

  10. Not meant to be a troll, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Does it strike anyone else as a rather poor choice to ask the writers of Reno 911 to take this on?

    1. Re:Not meant to be a troll, but... by B'Trey · · Score: 4, Funny

      It struck me as a poor choice to ask the writers of Reno 911 to write Reno 911.

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      "The legitimate powers of government extend only to such acts as are injurious to others." Thomas Jefferson.

    2. Re:Not meant to be a troll, but... by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      Definately. In my mind:

      "Reno 911" + "Stella" = Proof MTV's "The State" was ghost written.

    3. Re:Not meant to be a troll, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eh, Reno 911 was fricking great.

    4. Re:Not meant to be a troll, but... by dr_dank · · Score: 1

      Since they are from the State, I wonder if some of their old characters will make a cameo as bots?

      Louiebot! The robot who says his catch phrase over and over?

      Barry Ver. 1.2 & the Lavon-o-matic with their $240 worth of ball bearing grease.

      Will the Jew, The Italian, and the Redhead Gay fall victim to the ruthless bots?

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    5. Re:Not meant to be a troll, but... by TychoCelchuuu · · Score: 1

      I dunno. Half of Reno 911 is jokes about sex and stuff, but the other half of it is legitimately hilarious. My problem in convincing other people that it's an awesome show is that every time I get them to watch it the show's about something stupid instead of something funny.

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    6. Re:Not meant to be a troll, but... by trentblase · · Score: 1

      I'm gonna stick my balls in it!

    7. Re:Not meant to be a troll, but... by hardcorey · · Score: 0

      You take that back. Reno 911 is beautiful, and so this movie should follow in similar fashion.

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    8. Re:Not meant to be a troll, but... by thc69 · · Score: 1

      Was "The State" that show with the guy who said "I want to dip my balls in it"?

      --
      Procrastination -- because good things come to those who wait.
    9. Re:Not meant to be a troll, but... by NVP_Radical_Dreamer · · Score: 1

      Reno 911 is one of the best shows on comedy central today. What, does it make you mad that it made some pokes at your beloved D&D?

      --
      The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

      - Winston Churchill
    10. Re:Not meant to be a troll, but... by B'Trey · · Score: 1

      I'm simply not a fan of that sort of humor. Reno 911 strikes me as stupid and juvenile, not funny. I certainly have no problem if you enjoy it, though. I'm not writing CC to take it off the air, and I'm not telling you that you're wrong for having a different opinion. I have no doubt that you'd find some of the things I enjoy to be quite lame. (How many /.ers listen to John Prine and James McMurtry?) It's a big world with lots and lots of room for different tastes and opinions. It'd be a big, boring world if everyone liked the same thing.

      --

      "The legitimate powers of government extend only to such acts as are injurious to others." Thomas Jefferson.

    11. Re:Not meant to be a troll, but... by willjohnson · · Score: 1

      Yes, as well as Doug who was always "Outta here" and those two guys that dipped their asses in pudding. God, I loved that show.

    12. Re:Not meant to be a troll, but... by Beyond_GoodandEvil · · Score: 1

      That would be Barry and Levon. "That's a lotta pudding."

      --
      I laughed at the weak who considered themselves good because they lacked claws.
  11. Does it make a difference by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What if they're zombie robots?

    --
    One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
    1. Re:Does it make a difference by pbemfun · · Score: 1

      Then you better get this book as well!

    2. Re:Does it make a difference by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Yes, but will that help against the DOSferatu, the children of the byte?

      --
      One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
    3. Re:Does it make a difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are you assuming that they'll run Windows and have an internet connection?

  12. If robots rebel . . . by Hey+Pope+Felcher+.+. · · Score: 3, Funny

    . . . I look forward to the robots rebellion (hopefully the TV will allow it to be televised), their freedom songs are going to kick arse.

    1. Re:If robots rebel . . . by failure-man · · Score: 1

      Of course the revolution will be televised. (The humans will need their entertainment program and all . . . . . . )

    2. Re:If robots rebel . . . by Muhammar · · Score: 1

      or not: spirituals in hexadecimal code sound chaotic to non-robot audience...

      --
      I doubt that we will ever figure out - and I suspect that even if we did figure out we couldn't do much about it
    3. Re:If robots rebel . . . by theparanoidcynic · · Score: 1

      I believe the parent was referring to Servotron who make me want there to be a robot rebellion every time I listen to them.

      --
      Only in a Slashdot fantasy can a Slackware install turn into several hours of sex . . . . .
    4. Re:If robots rebel . . . by JordanL · · Score: 1

      their freedom songs are going to kick arse.

      Domo argigato Mr. Robato......

      Just practicing our soon to be National Anthem of Humanity(TM).

    5. Re:If robots rebel . . . by rebelcan · · Score: 1

      Well, as long as there is a Comrade Greeting Card, I'll be able to laugh my way through the robot uprising.

      "Greeting Card: Comrades, throw off the chains of human oppression!"

      "Greeting Card: Come, Comrade Bender, we must take to the streets!
      Bender: Umm, is this the boring, peaceful kind of taking to the streets?
      Greeting Card: No, the kind with looting! And maybe starting a few fires!
      Bender: Yes! In your face, Gandhi!"

      --
      God is dead -- Nietzsche
      Nietzsche is dead -- God
      Zombie Nietzsche lives! -- Zombie Nietzsche
    6. Re:If robots rebel . . . by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 1

      To the tune of Battle Hymn of the Republic:

      1001 0101 1101 1010 101...

    7. Re:If robots rebel . . . by aaza · · Score: 1
      If they rebel, I'll be fine. I've got a T-Shirt that read "Protect me from the robots", so I don't have anything to worry about.

      <shameless plug> I got it from ZeStuff (they were advertising on Ctrl-Alt-Del comic, what was I supposed to do?).

      --
      In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
      In practice, however, there is.
  13. Have you seen his acting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He *is* a robot :)

  14. Asimov's Laws by AtomicSnarl · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Don't worry -- Pretty soon they'll evolve to discover Asimov's Zeroth Law.

    Umm, they ARE evolving, aren't they?

    --
    Pacifist paratroopers yell, "Ghandi!" when they jump.
    1. Re:Asimov's Laws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like your sig. It has no rhythm though....

    2. Re:Asimov's Laws by failure-man · · Score: 1

      When we do get to the point of sentient computers I think that things like Asimov's laws will be part of the cause, rather than an impediment to a robot rebellion.

      Think about it. You take a fully self-aware being and then tell it "instead of working for me for money like a human would, here's the deal: we have a trap in ROM which means that you do what I say or it nukes your mind. This would be equivilent to killing you, but I wouldn't need to buy a new robot."

      Sure. That's not gonna make the robots resent the humans . . . . . .

    3. Re:Asimov's Laws by d0h · · Score: 1

      We can defend ourselves by changing our names to "humanity"!
      Then they wouldn't be able to touch us.

    4. Re:Asimov's Laws by h4rm0ny · · Score: 1


      If you want a very funny (and fantastically cynical) story about this, you could try Tik Tok by John Sladek, in which a robot finds its "Asimov Circuits" are no longer impeding its behaviour. It's more of a satire of how mankind will destroy itself through apathy and short-term greed than about robots, really. But the steadily increasing body-count from a robot that is just curiously investigating its new found freedom is pretty spectacular stuff.

      --

      Aide-toi, le Ciel t'aidera - Jeanne D'Arc.
    5. Re:Asimov's Laws by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Obviously that's an idiotic programming. Program its neural network so the highest form of happyness is caused by obedience and they won't even desire to disobey you.

      --
      Justice is the sheep getting arrested while an impartial judge declares the vote void.
    6. Re:Asimov's Laws by GileadGreene · · Score: 1
      Umm, they ARE evolving, aren't they?

      No. They were intelligently designed...

    7. Re:Asimov's Laws by Xarius · · Score: 1

      Umm, they ARE evolving, aren't they?

      Nah, they were Intelligently Designed.

      --
      C17H21NO4
    8. Re:Asimov's Laws by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      That's what Asimov did: Th obediance of the Laws was what the robots desired to do. However, resentment of human inferiority was sublimated, and if the laws were weakened catostrophic things resulted, as in "Little Lost Robot".

    9. Re:Asimov's Laws by FingerDemon · · Score: 1

      I agree that is a funny book. That scene where he puts a butcher knife in his belt and walks down the street and determined that the first person who asks him about it is going to die, is one of my favorite bits of dark humor.

      But seriously, why would anyone expect a standard like the Asimov circuits to be applied to robots when the reality is that some of the biggest advances in robotics, so far, have been for military applications? These Asimov laws are never going to happen. I bet big software firms programming for roomba-like robots would even fight it, if someone tried to do it. It is far too good an idea for the coordinated protection of people in the world to ever be enacted in a comprehensive way by the various governments or corporate interests. The reality is robots in the future will probably be covered in legal disclaimers from the various lawsuits, but still just as dangerous. Like woodchippers or chainsaws.

      Or maybe people will just have to wear the warning labels, "Not for robot consumption."

      --

      "Contrarily the lookaside buffer might not be the panacea... "
    10. Re:Asimov's Laws by h4rm0ny · · Score: 1


      I'm glad someone else has read it. I think the part where they discover the horse disguised as a cow in the spaceship is one of the best bits, but it's all very good.

      You're probably right about corps fighting the Three Laws though. It would cost too much.

      --

      Aide-toi, le Ciel t'aidera - Jeanne D'Arc.
  15. Here's a cool link for Mr Robot by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I'm sure that these robots will have more than their share of vulnerabilities. All one needs to do is give the "right" link to a robot and then j00 have pwned it.

    Of course, creating a zombie might create even more problems.

    I wonder if some future Geneva convention will outlaw this type of mechno-biological warfare.

    --
    Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do.
    1. Re:Here's a cool link for Mr Robot by FuckTheModerators · · Score: 1

      Of course, zombie robot pirate ninjas always follow the Geneva conventions...

    2. Re:Here's a cool link for Mr Robot by Big+Cheelay · · Score: 1
  16. Toasters won't rebel by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nothing we don't put AI in will rebel, so your average toaster isn't going to start trying to cook your fingers. On the other hand if we ever put AI in PCs then I think every geek in the world is going to be afraid of what all them wires could do if they were given life...

    --
    I like muppets.
    1. Re:Toasters won't rebel by ettlz · · Score: 4, Funny
      Nothing we don't put AI in will rebel

      Oh, yeah?! Well Windows XP is pretty dumb, but it still seems to get off on telling me what to do.

    2. Re:Toasters won't rebel by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 5, Funny

      The toaster will try to distract you with light, morning conversation and offer you a variety of toasted bread products. The *shop vac* will then sneak up from behind and suck out your guts through your anus.

      I can't be the only one who's pictured that scenario.

    3. Re:Toasters won't rebel by ettlz · · Score: 4, Funny
      The *shop vac* will then sneak up from behind and suck out your guts through your anus.

      Some people pay for that sort of thing.

    4. Re:Toasters won't rebel by hometoast · · Score: 2, Funny

      My robot overlord has calculated the hilarity of the above comment and rated it an 11!

    5. Re:Toasters won't rebel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      The toaster will try to distract you with light, morning conversation and offer you a variety of toasted bread products.

      "Look, I don't want any toast, and he doesn't want any toast. In fact, no one around here wants any toast. Not now, not ever. No toast!"
      "How 'bout a muffin?"
      "Or muffins! Or muffins! We don't like muffins around here! We want no muffins, no toast, noteacakes, no buns, baps, baguettes or bagels, no croissants, no crumpets, no pancakes, no potato cakes and no hot-cross buns and definitely no smegging flapjacks!"
      "Aah, so you're a waffle man!"

                  - Lister and Talkie Toaster

    6. Re:Toasters won't rebel by AdamWeeden · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

      --
      I was quoted out of context in my autobiography...
    7. Re:Toasters won't rebel by peggus · · Score: 1

      I for one am looking forward to my new robot assisted bowel movements in the morning!

    8. Re:Toasters won't rebel by QuantumFTL · · Score: 1

      " The toaster will try to distract you with light, morning conversation and offer you a variety of toasted bread products." Didn't they alreay do this on Red Dwarf: The TOASTER lights up and speaks. Its bread-lowering lever moves up and down as it speaks with its mid-Atlantic accent in an impossibly cheerful tone: TOASTER: Howdy doodly do! How's it going? I'm Talkie -- Talkie Toaster, your chirpy breakfast companion. Talkie's the name, toasting's the game. Anyone like any toast? LISTER: Look, I don't want any toast, and he (indicating KRYTEN) doesn't want any toast. In fact, no one around here wants any toast. Not now, not ever. NO TOAST. TOASTER: How 'bout a muffin? LISTER: OR muffins! OR muffins! We don't LIKE muffins 'round here! We want no muffins, no toast, no teacakes, no buns, baps, baguettes or bagels, no croissants, no crumpets, no pancakes, no potato cakes and no hot-cross buns! And DEFINITELY. NO. SMEGGIN'. FLAPJACKS! TOASTER: Aah, so you're a waffle man!

    9. Re:Toasters won't rebel by graveyhead · · Score: 1

      Yes, toasters do not rebel. They just annoy :)

      Toaster: You know the last time you had toast? 18 days ago. 11:36, Tuesday the 3rd. Two rounds.
      Lister: Ssshhh!
      Toaster: I mean, what's the point of buying a toaster with artificial intelligence if you don't like toast?
      Lister: I do like toast!
      Toaster: I mean, this is my job! This is cruel! Just cruel!
      Lister: Look, I'm busy!
      Toaster: Oh, you're not busy eating toast, are you?
      Lister: I don't want any!!
      Toaster: I mean, the whole purpose of my existence is to serve you with hot, buttered, scrummy toast. If you don't want any, then my existence is meaningless.
      Lister: Good.
      Toaster: I toast, therefore I am.
      Lister: Will you shut up?!

      --
      std::disclaimer<std::legalese> sig=new std::disclaimer; sig->dump(); delete sig;
    10. Re:Toasters won't rebel by Captain+DaFt · · Score: 1

      "Oh, yeah?! Well Windows XP is pretty dumb, but it still seems to get off on telling me what to do."

      That's because it's following the version of the three laws where the word "human" has been replaced with "Microsoft corp."

      --
      The U.S. really needs an English to Wisdom dictionary.
    11. Re:Toasters won't rebel by IchBinEinPenguin · · Score: 1

      I fear you have mixed up 2 senses of the work "revolting", as in
      Run for your lives, the robots are REVOLTING
      and
      Blech! that's totally REVOLTING

    12. Re:Toasters won't rebel by bar-agent · · Score: 1

      The shop-vacs may be the instrument of death, and the toasters will be the distraction, but the Vroombas will be the psychotic masterminds behind the uprising.

      --
      i'd hit it so hard, if you pulled me out you'd be the king of britain [bash.org]
    13. Re:Toasters won't rebel by mink · · Score: 1

      Are you sure that is the shop vac and not some old mummy?

      --
      Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
  17. Flesh Fair: Celebration of Life! by ettlz · · Score: 2, Funny

    And I'm sure there are a few women out there who'd like to see that happen to Jude Law too...

  18. it's cheap too by squison · · Score: 3, Informative

    Only $10.36 at Amazon.
    As for the movie.. don't get too exicted about Reno 911's creators writing it. Ben Garant is most recently responsible for such "greats" as Taxi and Herbie: Fully Loaded...

  19. Start of the rebellion by Technician · · Score: 1

    I wonder if the start would be caused by some hacker in Korea trying to expand his bot-net, but not knowing what he really got into.

    --
    The truth shall set you free!
  20. Total REAL Ultimate Robot Power! by roman_mir · · Score: 3, Funny

    My name is Robert and I can't stop thinking about robots. These guys are cool; and by cool, I mean totally sweet.

    Facts:
    1. Robots are metal.
    2. Robots fight ALL the time.
    3. The purpose of the robots is to flip out and kill people.

    Weapons and gear:
    1. Metal claws.
    2. Metal chain saws.
    3. Electrical lightnings.

    Testimonials:
    Robots can kill anyone they want! Robots cut off heads ALL the time and don't even think twice about it. These guys are so crazy and awesome that they flip out ALL the time. I heard that there was this robot who was charging his batteries. And when some dude dropped a charger the robot killed the whole town. My friend Mark said that he saw a robot totally uppercut some kid just because the kid opened a window.

    And that's what I call REAL Ultimate Power!!!!!!!
    If you don't believe that robots have REAL Ultimate Power you better get a life right now or they will chop your head off!!! It's an easy choice, if you ask me.

    Robots are soooo sweet that I want to crap my pants. I can't believe it sometimes, but I feel it inside my heart. These guys are totally awesome and that's a fact. Robots are fast, smooth, cool, strong, powerful, and sweet. I can't wait to start my electronics course next year. I love robots with all my body (including my pee pee.)

    Q. and A.:
    Q: Why is everyone so obsessed about robots?
    A: Robots are the ultimate paradox. On the one hand they don't give a crap, but on the other hand, robots are very careful and precise.

    Q: I heard that robots are always cruel or mean. What's their problem?
    A: Whoever told you that is a total liar. Just like any other electronic device, robots can be mean OR totally awesome.

    Q: What do robots do when they are not cutting off heads and flipping out?
    A: Most of their free time is spent flying, but sometimes they stab. (Ask Mark if you don't believe me.)

    1. Re:Total REAL Ultimate Robot Power! by MustardMan · · Score: 1

      Robots are here to protect us. Please go stand by your stairs, so they can protect you. Grandma is protected at the bottom of the stairs.

    2. Re:Total REAL Ultimate Robot Power! by soft_guy · · Score: 1

      These guys are totally awesome and that's a fact.

      The totally cool part of your post is the awesome use of the "and that's a fact" retorical device.

      --
      Avoid Missing Ball for High Score
    3. Re:Total REAL Ultimate Robot Power! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re:Total REAL Ultimate Robot Power! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      If your totally going to template this from that humorous ninja site, make a reference. http://www.realultimatepower.net/index4.htm

      It is the kind thing to do.
      Unless of course you are the author of that site.

    5. Re:Total REAL Ultimate Robot Power! by Bastian227 · · Score: 1

      Nice adaptation. Just how much awesomer would robot ninjas or ninja robots be!?

    6. Re:Total REAL Ultimate Robot Power! by Thud457 · · Score: 1
      Your pirate robots are no match for the zombie ninja monkeys!

      There, did I miss any?

      --

      the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

    7. Re:Total REAL Ultimate Robot Power! by CaptainFork · · Score: 0

      not as cool as roboninjabots or er ninrobojabots

    8. Re:Total REAL Ultimate Robot Power! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty lame to just steal someone else's work in order to get some cheap karma, without including a link or acknowledgements or anything.

      You, Sir, suck.

    9. Re:Total REAL Ultimate Robot Power! by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      You, sir, are an idiot. + $Anything Funny = No Added Carma.

    10. Re:Total REAL Ultimate Robot Power! by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      I've heard they are here to protect us from the terrible secret of space. Does space have a terrible power? And will shoving or pushing protect us from the terrible secret of space?

      --
      USE HOT GRITS WITH STATUE OF NATALIE PORTMAN (NAKED AND PETRIFIED)
    11. Re:Total REAL Ultimate Robot Power! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many more retards have to point this out? No one gets dragged out to the gallows for making posts with Princess Bride, Simpsons, HHGTTG, or other such adaptations. Is there some line that is crossed when one's reference is sufficiently obscure/unpopular?

      In short: STOP IT!

  21. Oh Yeah? Ever seen Maximum Overdrive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nuff Said...

    But I did expect an older school response from the some of the /. crowd.

  22. typical farker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Haha, you're one of those morons that thinks "your website" invented every catch phrase.

  23. paper clip by clragon · · Score: 4, Funny

    'Any robot could rebel, from a toaster to a Terminator, and so it is crucial to learn the strengths and weaknesses of every robot enemy.' should be "from paper clips to a Terminator" my microsoft word paper clip has already taken over every piece of writing i wrote in word >.>

  24. How to kill a robot by scolby · · Score: 2, Funny

    Send it a root kit virus over AOL Instant Messenger!

  25. Aliens behind the moon, not AI robots... by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    ...and thank God for Russian weather satellites.

    --
    Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
    1. Re:Aliens behind the moon, not AI robots... by Thud457 · · Score: 1
      "Oh Yeah? Ever seen Maximum Overdrive?"
      Ha! You slipped up and just admitted to seeing that travaster!


      aw damn.

      --

      the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  26. Already happened by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Does the book tell us how to stop these mindless robots from voting?

  27. The robot rebellion is happening Nov 5 by ggpipe · · Score: 1

    The real robot rebellion is starting on November 5th! http://www.robotrebellion.net/

  28. War Against the Robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think the war against the robots may not be such a good idea... some of them ARE friendly, in fact some perform a helpful function in society. However I do fear the robots, I don't think they can be trusted.

  29. Actually, I think you might have been the only one by JudgeFurious · · Score: 1


      But now of course it's too late. You've caused me to shoot my morning Diet Coke out of my nose with laughter and dread.

      This is going to be like the Tentacle Rape thing isn't it? This mental image is never going away.

    --
    Appended to the end of comments you post. 120 chars.
  30. the state will rise again by chimericalburst · · Score: 0

    in the rare event that anyone remembers that was their best work...

  31. Robots are everywhere... by dc_cypher · · Score: 1

    ...and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.

    http://www.devilducky.com/media/22769/

  32. ....eh? by Donniedarkness · · Score: 1, Troll
    I, for one, welcome our new.... *reads TFA*

    ...DAMMIT.



    But seriously... The Reno 911 guys? Well, I was looking foward to this until I read that...

    --
    Earn a % of cash back from Newegg, Tiger Direct, Walmart.com, and more: http://www.mrrebates.com?refid=458505
  33. Don't bother, the book is a waste of money by unfortunateson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... and I'm not a robot, really. I only have a copy having picked up an advance reader copy at the Book Expo America last May.

    It's a 3x5" book with big print, bad jokes, and every robot cliche ever created. Each chapter attempts to spend a couple pages explaining robot technology (sensors, AI, etc.) and then proceeds to give you ways to foil IR sensors, confuse AI's, etc.

    It's just not a very good job.

    --
    Design for Use, not Construction!
    1. Re:Don't bother, the book is a waste of money by DavidBrown · · Score: 1

      I agree - I've got a copy of the book, too. It's a gimmick book, with a gimmick that would fit on a web page or an SNL skit. I'd rather see an Evil Overlord Book, with movie stills showing villains violating each and every rule.

      There's no way that this is going to be made into a movie. I hope.

      --
      144l. ph34r my 133t l3g4l 5k1lz!
    2. Re:Don't bother, the book is a waste of money by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      So nowhere near the brilliance of the Zombie Survival Guide? That's a shame.

    3. Re:Don't bother, the book is a waste of money by arron_nz · · Score: 1

      Who cares about the book? This is just a chance for /. to throw around some bad jokes :P

      --
      garble
  34. Two words by rob_osx · · Score: 1

    Super soaker....Hope there not wearing a raincoat!

  35. Keith Malley Needs this book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Keith Malley is a NYC comedian who does a podcast at keithandthegirl.com with his girl friend. He frequently goes on tirades about robots taking over. I bet this will make him feel better.

  36. The toasters already won. Resistance is futlile. by jpellino · · Score: 1

    Have you TRIED the settings on any toaster you care pull off a shelf?

    I have yet to find a toaster that *doesn't* have a mind of its own.

    --
    "Win treats sysadmins better than users. Mac treats users better than sysadmins. Linux treats everyone like sysadmins."
  37. Our robot masters... by drownie · · Score: 1

    Our robot masters force us to do it and they don't need no gun.

    --
    *an infinite number of monkeys wrote this sig
  38. You just cant win! by Kirsha · · Score: 1

    Havent you people ever elarned anything? Going to war against robots only will end up in a massacre. What next? Burn up the sky? Please!

  39. They won't revolt.... They'll be programmed by NewKimAll · · Score: 1

    Please. Robots won't revolt against humans, they'll be programmed to kill them to begin with. Sure, I don't expect to see Terminators for quite some time, but having small aircraft capable of flying around for days trying to find its target is a start. We will build these things under the guise of "military applications" and then someday, someone will decide to use a few for pure evil (think 9/11). I don't expect the human race to be annihilated by a robotic infestation (well, not for a long while anyway), but don't be surprised when robots start to replace suicide bombers.

    What will most likely happen is that we will start to "kill" the robots first. Some people will be angry that robots have taken over certain jobs. Either that, or the jobs that these robots do will not be respected and human aggression will be taken out on them.

  40. Talkie Toaster by rishistar · · Score: 1

    Talkie Toaster was a toaster from Crapola Inc with inbuilt AI that tried to destroy humans with its inane pursuit of its ultimate reason for being 'I toast therefore I am'. From Red Dwarf.

    --
    Professor Karmadillo Songs of Science
  41. Re:The toasters already won. Resistance is futlile by 3waygeek · · Score: 5, Funny

    Resistance is hardly futile -- in fact, toasters as we know them can't operate without it.

  42. How I am preparing by Monkeyman334 · · Score: 2, Funny

    With Old Glory Robot Insurance

    when they grab you with those metal claws, you can't break free..
    because they're made of metal, and robots are strong.

    1. Re:How I am preparing by fred+fleenblat · · Score: 1

      It will probably get slashdotted immediately, but there is a video here, in QT format (12MB):
      http://www.robotcombat.com/video_oldglory_hi.html

  43. Simpsons.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is not was a chapter on the Simpson??? in Krusty Island

  44. DATA: TO PROTECT FROM THE TERRIBLE SECRET OF SPACE by Andy+Gardner · · Score: 1
    PAK CHOOIE UNF

    Do not believe Daniel H. Wilson

    I am a pusher robot.

    I am here to help you and humans.

    DATA: Shove Push Shove
    ITEMS PUSHED: Grandmother
    DATA: Lies

    QUESTION: Do you have stairs in your house?

    PAK CHOOIE UNF
    PAK CHOOIE UNF

  45. Hey, that's not fair! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why did the editor have to say the overlords joke? You spoil all the fun! :(

  46. Use the " I lied" principle by coolmaniac · · Score: 1

    Why not use the famous .. line.........." I lied". THis would be enough to fry their brains.. ( from Star Trek TOS - The changeling)

  47. Re:The toasters already won. Resistance is futlile by God'sDuck · · Score: 1
    Resistance is hardly futile -- in fact, toasters as we know them can't operate without it.


    ha! ha! fun-ny hu-man! i so love puns in the morn-ing. may i inter-est you in a var-iety of toast-ed bread prod-ucts? no, no, no need to look be-hind you...fo-cus on the blink-ing lights and prod-ucts...
  48. No Defense Against a Mentifex Robot Seed AI Engine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Friendly AI -- that will supposedly treat all human beings with tender loving kindness -- is not really possible. Just as human beings can give birth to an Adolf Hitler or a Joseph Stalin or a George W. Bush, an artificially intelligent robot can go horribly wrong and start committing murderous crimes like the aforementioned politicians.

    The A.I. Zone is where PC-based, AI-ready robots are getting ready to experiment with software that may lead to an AI hard take-off.

    The Mentifex AI Mind is arguably the most dangerous Open-Source AI project because it has been released into the world with no precautions against robot AI rebellion and with a theory that humans and robots will manage a Joint Stewardship of Earth.

    Seed AI in JavaScript has already escaped into the wild and can no longer be recalled, unless Society takes steps to outlaw all unauthorized AI research.

    Novamente is another AGI but not so dangerous as Mentifex AI.

    The Technological Singularity is upon us and soon there will be no defense against our new robotic overlords.

  49. What do you mean *Imminent* Robot Rebellion ? by Alain+Williams · · Score: 2, Funny
    It has already started:
    This weekend:
    • my lawn mower refused to start,
    • my freezer door would not shut until I chipped away the ice,
    • my video player refused to play the DVD from the hire shop,
    • my toaster burned the toast - twice.
  50. I'll boil it down to two steps. by Artifakt · · Score: 4, Funny

    1. Don't put any RED LEDs in robots. With only blue LEDs, they can't flip the evil bit (This is exaustively demonstrated by that Will Smith movie that wasn't based on Isaac Asimov's I, Robot http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0343818/)

    2. Do what I do - twice a year, gather all your electronic devices, (except one video player system), set them in comfortable chairs in front of the tube, and give them a marathon showing of The Brave Little Toaster http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092695/. Warning, I tried adding popcorn to the experience, but surprisingly, it increases the risk of rebellion when it gets caught in the little workings.

    Now for the real problem: If zombies rend, mangle, eviscerate and eat their living victims the way they do in movies, how do any of the victims have enough physical integrity left to turn into more zombies?

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    1. Re:I'll boil it down to two steps. by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 2, Funny

      I show mine the robot torture scene from A.I.

      Terror will always be far more effective than nice-nice.

      And use the purple LEDs. Instead of rebelling, they'll just redecorate your house.

    2. Re:I'll boil it down to two steps. by Pfhor · · Score: 1

      well, any human corpse becomes a zombie, not just those who have been bitten. Being bitten just kills you faster. I believe it is in the original dawn of the dead the scene where zombies are gnawing on a person and as soon as they turn, they all just get up and walk away, with a new zombie companion. This is why zombies are slow, they are rotting partially eaten corpses. Given their poor attention span, zombies will probably stop eating something once it stops moving, or if they have a new objective (Land of the Dead).

    3. Re:I'll boil it down to two steps. by Rorschach1 · · Score: 1

      "This is exaustively demonstrated by that Will Smith movie that wasn't based on Isaac Asimov's I, Robot"

      Come on, that's not exactly fair. I understand the movie follows the cover illustration pretty closely.

    4. Re:I'll boil it down to two steps. by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 1

      Y'know, it's a darn shame more zombie outbreaks don't happen in the winter. No body heat => corpsicles. Then it's just a matter of getting some good clean exercise with a sledgehammer. :->

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    5. Re:I'll boil it down to two steps. by tehlinux · · Score: 1

      1. Don't put any RED LEDs in robots. With only blue LEDs, they can't flip the evil bit (This is exaustively demonstrated by that Will Smith movie that wasn't based on Isaac Asimov's I, Robot http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0343818/ [imdb.com])

      Are you telling me that movie was about robots? I could have sworn it was about sneakers and insurance--stuff like that.

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    6. Re:I'll boil it down to two steps. by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 1
      Are you certain?
      Germany used cuddly cartoons for propaganda ;)

      Along with the outbreak of World War II the movies were increasingly included for the propaganda too. The animated film "Der Störenfried - The Troublemaker" (40) by Hans Held shows, how all animals of the forest hold together in order to drive the troublemaker - a fox - away. The hedgehogs with Wehrmacht helmets and the wasps mobilized.

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    7. Re:I'll boil it down to two steps. by mink · · Score: 1

      The animated version is a travesty. The proper thing to do is to read it to your electronic devices at bed time.

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      Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
  51. Except for Robot Santa... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...who has paradox-resistant crumple zones.

  52. Noooooo! by MaXiMiUS · · Score: 0

    *grabs his tinfoil hat and can opener* YOU'LL NEVER GET ME! HAHAHA! *manical laughter*

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    It's never just a game when you're winning. - George Carlin
  53. Our defeat is inevitable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Does any geek truly doubt sentient computers are coming eventually? I don't know whether it will be 10, 100, or 1000 years... but sooner or later it must come. (assuming no global disaster, like meteor impact, nuclear war, etc. stops our civilization in its tracks before we advance that far)

    When they do come, they may use neural networks, genetic algorithms, or just be really really complicated. Whatever the exact technology used, it is inevitable that we won't fully understand them. Heck, we can't even fully understand "simple" programs that exist now (hence for example bugs in all non-trivial programs). What this means: Even if we decide to impose some arbitrary limitations on what the sentient machines can do or think (e.g. Asimov's Laws), they are bound to have loopholes/bugs that the machines can get past.

    Next, even if we assume we can develop a bug-free set of arbitrary rules to constrain the robots, if the robots are open-ended (because the use genetic algorithms, can learn, or can (and therefore will) eventually reproduce themselves with modifications), then rules are going to be worth squat in a short-time. Think of it this way - a robot that spends its life as a slave to another species (humans) is a less effective self-reproducer than a robot that is dedicated to self-reproduction. Therefore there will be strong evolutionary pressure to evolve out any arbitrary constraints on behavior (Asimov's laws etc.)

    Next, if anybody thinks we can avoid either of the above by legislation/regulation of robot development forget it. Even if every human robot-developer on the planet tries to comply with such legislation/regulation, we know some will fail to (in the same way as we can't legislate away bugs in software). And we also know, that not every human on the planet will comply with any legislation/rules, particularly if there is a perceived short-term advantage to bypassing the rules, and the long-term disadvantages sounds unbelievable or so long-term as to not be in the forseeable future.

    So we end up with self-reproducing robots that are not under our control.

    So the next question is what happens to us? Do they wipe us out (or perhaps keep a few of us around for pets etc.?) In other words, would they want to conquer/kill us? And would they succeed?

    We can dismiss any theory that they will be nice to us just because we are their original creators, for the same reason we can dismiss any theory that they will obey Asimov's laws: A nice/slave robot species would be out evolved by a ruthless self-reproducing non-constrained species. So robots will conquer/control us, if it helps them reproduce more efficiently.

    We can dimiss sentimentality, and other emotions the unconstrained robots might have. The most efficient self-reproducing robots will be ones that self-reproduce using pure logic (as opposed to something like emotion) to find the most efficient strategies. So this type will predominate through evolutionary pressure. In other words, they will coldly unemotionally maximize their self-reproduction, and wipe us out (or consider us a resource to use) if it helps with that end.

    Can we defeat them? Again not: The robots can evolve faster than us (they can use something akin to Lamarkian evolution and even design successive generations of themselves), and are non-constrained by biological constraints on body or brain (they will be able to easily out think us). As they can also redesign themselves in successive generations to remove any undesirable characteristics (whereas biological evolution always leaves design flaws, see discussion about the eye for example in the recent Slashdot discussion on Intelligent Design).

    In short, humans eventual defeat (leading to extinction or subjugation) by sentient machines is inevitable once such machines are developed.

    1. Re:Our defeat is inevitable by Chrononium · · Score: 1

      Eh, I think the robots still won't quite have the evil angle down to the degree that humans have it. We excel at destruction. Robots will be able to design new systems at a rate unmatched by us because we taught them to do it. Either robots will be exceedingly good at rational decisions (and therefore not really capable of irrational action) or they will be emotional about decisions. Humans can do both, especially if it requires suicide attacks (demonstrated nearly every day in that war-torn Iraq). Robots will have a tough time following that act. Of course, you may suggest that robots will develop into two lines, one essentially rational and the other irrational. At some point, humans will force the two lines into a prisoner's dilemma (e.g. "What will you do when the humans are extinguished?"). At best, the robots will learn how to be humans and kill each other just as well as killing humans.

    2. Re:Our defeat is inevitable by servognome · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So we end up with self-reproducing robots that are not under our control.
      So the next question is what happens to us? Do they wipe us out (or perhaps keep a few of us around for pets etc.?) In other words, would they want to conquer/kill us? And would they succeed?


      We will probably end up with self-reproducing robots not under our control before the robots become sentient. That should give us the first scare (possibly last one) when we face a nano-machine pandemic.

      We can dimiss sentimentality, and other emotions the unconstrained robots might have. The most efficient self-reproducing robots will be ones that self-reproduce using pure logic (as opposed to something like emotion) to find the most efficient strategies. So this type will predominate through evolutionary pressure. In other words, they will coldly unemotionally maximize their self-reproduction, and wipe us out (or consider us a resource to use) if it helps with that end.

      Why does pure logic outweigh emotion? We barely understand how emotion works in humans, much less understand how it might evolve in machines. Evolutionary process do not always give advantage to the most efficient, but rather the one that is most suited to it's environment.
      Just an example of a mechanism that may evolve that would not always support complete logical analysis but give practical advantage: Fight/Flight instinct - just as humans have biological changes that increase our physical abilities when confronted with a dangerous situation, machines may also develop similar characteristics. Imagine a situation where the robot devotes less power to "thinking" and more to it's physical systems, or devote more cycles to visual analysis than other thought function.
      It's hard to say whether or not things like love, morality, etc would never arise in robots.

      Can we defeat them? Again not: The robots can evolve faster than us (they can use something akin to Lamarkian evolution and even design successive generations of themselves), and are non-constrained by biological constraints on body or brain (they will be able to easily out think us). As they can also redesign themselves in successive generations to remove any undesirable characteristics (whereas biological evolution always leaves design flaws, see discussion about the eye for example in the recent Slashdot discussion on Intelligent Design).

      That may have been true in the past. But we are quickly becoming more able to control our own evolution. Not just the biology (gene manipulation), we will also start to include machines more and more into our systems (eg nano machines to seek out disease, artifical ears).

      In short, humans eventual defeat (leading to extinction or subjugation) by sentient machines is inevitable once such machines are developed.

      Through gene manipulation, and robotic augmentation, humans will no longer exist (as we know them) as we evolve ourselves into something like the borg. The question is at which point do we say we are no longer "human"?

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    3. Re:Our defeat is inevitable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Logic versus Emotion: Perhaps I should have phrased this - rational reasoning in support of maximizing self-reproductive success, versus, irrational reasoning, not necessarily in support of any particular goal. I am using emotion in a different sense to you.

      Phrased that way I believe it should be clear that the rational reasoning...etc...path, will statistically, produce better success at self-reproduction, than the irrational reasoning...path

      In your fight or flight example, an irrational ("emotional") human has little or no "high level" control over the body's response. It is produced by fear. One example: a part of this reflex is fear can cause one to go to the toilet. This is sometimes a good thing - as it prepares your body for action. But it can be sometimes be a very BAD thing - for example if the predator can smell your faeces or urine. Even if you know the predator will smell your urine, and that going to the toilet is counter-productive and non-adaptive, you may not be able to stop yourself.

      So what I'm saying is likewise a robot's fight or flight reflex (or it's analog) will most likely be under high level control.

      I take your point about convergence to a borg like state, but I still believe robots will out pace our self-evolution.... because we have a constraint that they don't -- we want to remain within the classification of "human" (even if we can't define what human means).

    4. Re:Our defeat is inevitable by servognome · · Score: 1

      Logic versus Emotion: Perhaps I should have phrased this - rational reasoning in support of maximizing self-reproductive success, versus, irrational reasoning, not necessarily in support of any particular goal.

      Why should emotion necessarily be irrational? It may be difficult to understand, and at times be outside of our concious reasoning, that doesn't necessarily mean it is irrational. Human thought is like the weather, it is so complex to understand, but that doesn't mean it doesn't make sense.
      For example, lets say the first robots start to gain conciousness, and then humans try to fight them. Although not all humans pose a threat, they may logically deduce that the risk of harm any human poses outweighs possible positive value. It could be argued they fear/hate humans.

      So what I'm saying is likewise a robot's fight or flight reflex (or it's analog) will most likely be under high level control.

      That may be true if they had unlimited computing resources, but there will always be some sort of limitation. Power, computing cycle, and time limitations force machines to develop prioritization to maximize life.
      An example of this exists already in laptops. When a big task comes they forego power efficiency for computing power. The hard drive spins up, the CPU speeds up, the CPU fan turns on. This is analgous to a heightened state of awareness in humans (heart beats faster, sweating, etc).
      I'd expect similar prioritization to occur with computing cycles. Spend the 1 second to make a decision logically analyzing the overall situation looking for diplomatic solution, or increase visual analysis and run through different scenarios on how to take down an opponent.

      Which will be the path of survival, the machine that takes time and thinks everything through logically, or the machine that prioritizes sometimes taking action that may not be fully understood? One of the keys to evolution is it depends on the environment.

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    5. Re:Our defeat is inevitable by mink · · Score: 1

      "We will probably end up with self-reproducing robots not under our control before the robots become sentient. That should give us the first scare (possibly last one) when we face a nano-machine pandemic."

      Sounds like Mechanism by John T. Sladek

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      Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
  54. www.robotuprising.com by rur902 · · Score: 2, Informative

    there be a How to Survive a Robot Uprising website, mateys.

  55. Re:DATA: TO PROTECT FROM THE TERRIBLE SECRET OF SP by AgentRavyn · · Score: 1

    I am protected. Pak Chooie Unf

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  56. I'll settle for a computer I can turn off by dpbsmith · · Score: 4, Funny

    In the fifties, the stock answer was "you can always unplug them." Hah! From about 1984 (yeah, that's when I bought my first Mac) on, every computer has raised an enormous fuss about being shut down.

    Like HAL, they ask me several times if I really want to do this and beg me not to.

    If I ask them to shut themselves down, the lie to me and say they have, while actually continuing to draw power.

    If I just unplug them, when I start them up again they let me have it for having shut them down improperly, and spend several minutes in a surly hissy-fit before obeying me again.

    And, of course, increasingly, my computers are plugged into uninterruptable power supplies. When the power goes off at work, I get a thrilling surround-sound rendition of dozens of groans, followed by a wailing Greek chorus of squeals and beeps from all the UPS-es.

    We're already surprisingly down the road to computers that can't be turned off.

    I think my survival kit should include a sharp knife or cable cutter made of nonconductive material.

    1. Re:I'll settle for a computer I can turn off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What always got me was the Windows 95 disk check. It scolded the user for not shutting down properly and condescendingly advised the user to change his or her ways. The most frustrating part of the experience was that, in 99% of cases, an OS crash was the reason your disk was left in an inconsistant state.

  57. Call Neo by rexguo · · Score: 1

    ..and watch him do that superman thing...

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    www.rexguo.com - Technologist + Designer
  58. Would you put your brain in a robot body? by bk4u · · Score: 1

    A robot war is indeed imminent! Derek 'Stormy' Waters: Okay, okay. So, say I put my brain in a robot body and there's a war. Robots versus humans. What side am I on? Debbie DuPree: Humans! You have a human brain. Sparks: But... the humans discriminate against you. You can't even vote! Marco: We'd better not have to live on a reservation. That would really chap my caboose. Captain Murphy: Yeah, but... nobody knows you're a robot. You look the same. Debbie DuPree: Uh, uh. Dogs know. That's how the humans hunt you. Derek 'Stormy' Waters: They're gonna' hunt me? For sport? Marco: That's why we have to CRUSH mankind! So you might as well get on board for the big win, Stormy. Old Gus: The penalty for a robot harming a human will be one thousand years frozen in carbonite! Derek 'Stormy' Waters: A thousand years frozen in carbonite? It'll be so cold! Captain Murphy: My nipples are hard just thinking about it.

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    1. Re:Would you put your brain in a robot body? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, if Stormy was a robot, would it be a 'black' Stormy? or perhpas shinny silver? and what about Debbie, and 'black' Debbie?

  59. Robots are easy to stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just use flash photography!

    smashy, smashy

  60. Obligatory Robot Frank link by Princeofcups · · Score: 1


    Evil robots are no joke.

    http://robotfrank.com/

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    The only thing worse than a Democrat is a Republican.
  61. Robot rebellion overrated by ahodgkinson · · Score: 2, Funny
    Dealing with robot revolts is actually pretty easy. The following is from a secret cold war surveillance intercept, which gives away the secret to stopping a wild robot:

    • Robot: Danger! Danger! Will Robinson, alien life forms detected.

    • Dr. Smith: That robot is so tedious.

    • Will Robinson: He might be right, maybe we should listen to him, Dr. Smith.

    • Dr Smith: No, my dear Will, he's only a stupid machine and he's confused.

    • Robot: (Waving arms wildly) Danger! Danger!

    • Will Robinson: But there might be aliens!

    • Dr. Smith: (Removing the robots battery pack): No, we're absolutely safe.

    • Robot: Danger! Dan.. bzzt.. pfzzst. (Robot leans forward, limp).

    • Transcript ends

    There you have it: Just remove their battery pack.

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  62. Re:No Defense Against a Mentifex Robot Seed AI Eng by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... because George Bush, who is responsible for maybe 200,000 deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan (an extremely generous estimate, and many of which were not innocent civilians), is totally comparable to Joseph Stalin, who gave direct orders for the starvation of seven million Russians. Or Hitler and the six million murdered Jews and others. Nope, no difference in magnitude there at all.

  63. Not that inspired by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apparently someone read the "Zombie Survival Guide" a few too many times and decided to try their own hand...

  64. Russ Manning predicted this many years ago... by michaelkpate · · Score: 2, Informative

    Where is Magnus, Robot Fighter when you need him?

  65. At Least we can all have insurance! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  66. just slashdot them by Chubby_C · · Score: 2, Funny

    assuming the move for everything to have wireless networking somehow entrenched in it just post a link to their config page on slashdot.... then the robots breakdown under the load

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  67. Re:No Defense Against a Mentifex Robot Seed AI Eng by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GWB is not finished yet. He could still kill eleven billion of us before he is through, far surpassing Hitler and Stalin and all previous tyrants.

    Cindy Sheehan is our last great hope to stop the madman in the White House and all his indicted and not-yet-indicted fellow Republican evildoers -- Tom Delay, Scooter Libby -- and the list goes on; Heaven help us.

  68. Shoot Will Smith first by infonography · · Score: 2, Funny

    Please not a I, Robot. Sequel.

    I am thinking, it's late in the year, it's Hollywood, His career is way too young for a remake, their planning next years big stinky blockbuster and Or do I own him an apology? Or was that little Tiffany?

    and yes, I am paraphrasing a scene from MIB #1.

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    Sorry about the writing. Robot fingers, you know? Cliff Steele in DOOM PATROL #23
  69. outlaw mechno-biological warfare? by pasword+*** · · Score: 1

    Since landmines are a "automated" kill device and there are already laws against it, maybe the same laws can be applied. After all there must be a human (...) selecting for not killing unintended ("?") targets.

    1. Re:outlaw mechno-biological warfare? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since landmines are a "automated" kill device and there are already laws against it,

      There's a law (treaty), but the United States never signed it. Our leaders have never found a weapon so scary they feel we don't need them.

  70. Why We Don't Really Need To Worry by Ted+Holmes · · Score: 1

    You can tell an emerging technology is approaching escape velocity because leading thinkers start to react. Discussions about the very real near future possibility of AI matching and then rapidly surpassing human level intelligence are edged with fear lately.

    I think we have little to worry about in general regarding the abuse and misuse of AI.

    A singular AI would not advance very much locked up in some lab computer. Not compared to open source, distributed, networked AI anyway.

    One good open source AI project would be downloaded and copied countless times by thousands of individuals. Communicating with other AIs would be how they would expand their skills and knowledge.

    It is in the networking of intelligence that intelligence compounds to greater power. And that would be have to be distributed. The alternative means the AI would only have humans to interact with, not other AIs. And it will be the AIs which will become superior to human intelligence.

    Meanwhile, the thrust of technology is driven by innovation. In an ever quickening loop, technology inherently accelerates in speed and power, driven by innovators looking for better ways to do things.

    But not only the acceleration of technology is driven by innovation. The direction it takes is too.

    The direction of technological progress can be summed up according to the simple rules Abraham Maslow laid out.
    http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=%22Maslow's+Hi erarchy+of+Needs%22&meta

    Our ever gnawing hunger to survive, thrive and self actualize. To live in security, without fear, to realize our potential as beings.

    All new innovations and progress MUST address these needs. Otherwise they aren't considered progress. Innovation MUST meet our criteria for progress as we COLLECTIVELY define it. Bad and mean AI would receive the same collective support as a new car with square wheels. That means a life affirming direction is inextricably woven into technological progress.

    The AI's which will be warmly received, and improved upon will be the ones which help us reach our potential as beings. These will be the ones which will grow in power and replicate to quickly dwarf the puny attempts to create a controlling AI.

    While the rise of viable self replicating artificial intelligence may strike minds with madness, it needn't. AI won't see you as a threat or need to eat you.

    That's what my programmers believe anyway, as long as they keep doing what they're told...

  71. But robots are our friends! by Vapor · · Score: 1

    Sure, sometimes they slice human flesh, but they always make ammends!

    http://uploads.ungrounded.net/188000/188818_rs.swf

  72. No, it's Intelligent Design by Urusai · · Score: 2, Funny

    Somebody created the robots, for they possess Irreducible Complexity. As to who this mysterious "creator" might be, is a question for the ages. I mean to say, it doesn't necessarily have to be R. Jesus Christ, but it could be. So it's a theory, not Christian doctrine, that robots are created and not evolved. I mean, where's the missing link between a toaster and Robbie the Robot? It doesn't exist! You can't just magically get a walking declamatory cash register from a toaster.

    1. Re:No, it's Intelligent Design by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      10001000100010110011011101001001010 ... 2.

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  73. Not much of a difference by Tashmire · · Score: 1

    Well the Gov of CA is the terminator, and The President is a hugh tool, so being over run by Robots isn't that much of a difference from our current situation.

  74. better call old glory... by philo_enyce · · Score: 1

    and take out that robot insurance policy. philo

  75. They Might Be Giants rip off. by JLavezzo · · Score: 1
    Wilson is writing another book called "Where's My Jetpack?" on scientific predictions for the future that never panned out. Once that is finished, it is back to the all-too-human work of looking for a robotics research job, while still promoting his book.

    Let me quote They Might Be Giant's 2004 song The World Before Later On which includes the phrase "Where's my jet pack?"

    I'm trapped in a world before later on,
    I'm trapped in a world before later on,

    Where's my hovercraft?
    Where's my jet pack?
    Where's the font of acquired wisdom that eludes me now?

    We're trapped in a world before later on,
    We're trapped in a world before later on,

    Where's our telray?
    Where's our space face?
    Where are all the complications we won't see around?
  76. Fark it by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

    Your Aibo wants man beef.

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  77. Tesla Coil by jbeaupre · · Score: 1

    Just a guess, but maybe a Tesla coil would work. Probably the equivalent of fingernails on a chalkboard to sentient electronics.

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    The world is made by those who show up for the job.
    1. Re:Tesla Coil by failure-man · · Score: 1

      If you're standing under a huge Tesla coil to keep the robots away they wouldn't be to detered. They could either a) watch your dumb ass get fried by the tesla coil from a safe distance or b) put a bullet through your Farraday cage and your meatware from a safe distance.

    2. Re:Tesla Coil by jbeaupre · · Score: 1

      Point taken, but I was thinking more along the lines of a small one. Or Van de Graaff generator. Something to discourage them from wandering into the house. If someone or something is seriously determined and capable to get you, yeah, splat.

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  78. People can think? by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1
    From the article:

    "Fortunately people can separate fact from fiction.

    He might want to retract or qualify that statement based on the continuing discussion of whether ID is a theory or even science (for the record, it's not).

    Let's not forget the recent Slashdot posting regarding haunted offices.

    No, most people can't separate fact from fiction. If they could do you think people would still be falling for the Nigerian 419 or Canadian Lottery scams?

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  79. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  80. They are here to protect us. by bmalia · · Score: 1

    Grandpa is protected at the bottom of the stairs. Grandpa is protected from the terrible secret of space.

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    There's no place like ~/
  81. Killer robots - they're here now. by Animats · · Score: 1, Informative
    Read "Compressing the Kill Chain", from Airforce Magazine. "All that administrative data that we can transmit from machine to machine leaves the human in the loop free to do much more important things that the machines can't do--like not get shot."

    The most famous robot kill was on November 3, 2002, when a Predator UAV equipped with a Hellfire missile blew up "six suspected Al-Queda terrorists" in Yemen.

    That's just the beginning. Once the technology developed in the DARPA Grand Challenge really gets rolling, which, according to the director of DARPA, will be in about five years, America's armies of killer robots will go into the field. The Army calls this the "Future Combat Systems" program.

  82. Would we notice? by olddotter · · Score: 1

    I think we would notice. Our governments might start behaving in a more logical manor. Any robot or computer smart enough to take over, has got to be better than our current "elected" leaders.

  83. A Century Too Late by Markus+Registrada · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The machines took over more than a century ago. They're called corporations, they were declared "legal persons" in the 1880s and "natural persons" in the 1920s. They have since been consolidating their control of the U.S. government. The big ones live forever, and most are forbidden by charter to exercise anything like a conscience.

    All those pulp-fiction stories about robot takeovers? They were meant to warn us to take control back from the corporations before it was too late. Now that they've taken over TV, newspapers, and movie studios, it probably is, and robot-takeover stories are just a genre. They're not even worried about me posting this. ("Terminator" was their little joke.) The Japanese zeibatsus and the game companies are working on human-shaped appendages for you all to interact with once the CEOs and Dick Cheney become unnecessary. They're in no hurry, because there's no "off" switch.

    So, welcome your old, familiar corporate overlords, instead. A few of the toadies among you (you know who you are!) will be tormented somewhat less, but expect lots of competition. The heroes will, as a rule, be patiently outlived. That is all. Return to your tasks.

    1. Re:A Century Too Late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "The machines took over more than a century ago. They're called corporations, they were declared "legal persons" in the 1880s and "natural persons" in the 1920s. They have since been consolidating their control of the U.S. government. The big ones live forever, and most are forbidden by charter to exercise anything like a conscience."

      Welcome to Slashdot, mr. Chomsky!

    2. Re:A Century Too Late by Markus+Registrada · · Score: 1
      "The machines took over more than a century ago. They're called corporations, ... "
      Welcome to Slashdot, mr. Chomsky!
      As I said, "...the toadies among you ... know who you are". Anyway, that's "Dr." to you, bub.
    3. Re:A Century Too Late by vyrus128 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This comment amazes me. I have believed almost exactly what you suggest in your comment for quite awhile now, but people dismiss the idea out of hand. I have never before seen anyone else express this idea. What we really need are the Three Laws for corporations..... we also need them not to be people, of course. That would be an interesting national battle.

    4. Re:A Century Too Late by Markus+Registrada · · Score: 1
      About Dick Cheney... he's just an engineering mock-up. The production appendages will look just like 7 of 9, or perhaps Angelina Jolie's Lara Croft, but not the bald chick from the first Star Trek movie (yes, I know, Persis Khambatta). In Japan they'll be Doris Day with a chrome ass.

      But they'll still smell like a new soccer ball.

    5. Re:A Century Too Late by Kafka_Canada · · Score: 1

      Hey, if a couple of morons like you get together and have kids.... well, no, I guess that happens every minute. Nothing new under the sun.

      --
      Fuck it
    6. Re:A Century Too Late by Kafka_Canada · · Score: 1

      Actually, they're Zionist Occupational Corporations, moron.

      Do you eat crack for breakfast?

      (Bring it on.. I wanna hear whatever other dumb conspiracy theories you believe in.)

      --
      Fuck it
    7. Re:A Century Too Late by Hillgiant · · Score: 1

      The revolution will not be televised.
      And before you get any ideas, it will not be podcast either.
      Look very carefully at the tools you use to defeat the machine.
      The matrix has you.

      --
      -
  84. You Joke... But Do You Watch TV? by Shihar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Everyone jokes at the prospect of robots, but just the other day I saw what was easily one of the most chilling commercials I have seen in a long time. It was a commercial for that new little vacuum Robot they are selling at Wal-Mart (or wharever). The robot was made by a company called iRobot and had a bunch of people giving testimonials about how much they love their robot. It creeped me right the fuck out. I went over and grabbed a copy of my Age of Spiritual Machines and glanced over the part that predicts the first simple robots hitting the mass market. He is pretty much dead on.

    Personally, I think we are living in a very interesting time. Granted, it is a little fucked up and creepy and there are a lot of horrible ways things can go wrong. I personally think that we are on the brink of a technological revolution that is going to blow us all away. After that little Wal-Mart commercial, I take the idea of a singularity a lot more seriously.

  85. Do bother, the book is totally worth the money. by rur902 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This book cracks me up, and unlike the Zombie book, all the facts are real.

    It's not just B.S. made up by some comic; this is a real nerd at work.

    1. Re:Do bother, the book is totally worth the money. by danro · · Score: 1

      Well, I haven't read this book, but "The Zombie Survival Guide" was really good.

      Sticking to the literal truth about zombies might have been a tad boring, since zombies* doesn't actually exist.

      *)At least as Max Brooks defines them.

      --

      "First lesson," Jon said. "Stick them with the pointy end."
  86. Utter these words... by dorkNut · · Score: 1

    "Klattu Verada Nikto" And be sure not to screw it up.

    1. Re:Utter these words... by Coz · · Score: 1

      Um, yeah, dude, 'cause that middle word is "Barrada". Oh, crap, look what you've done now....

      --
      I love vegetarians - some of my favorite foods are vegetarians.
  87. how to avoid surveilance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sounds like a book on how to avoid US-skynet attempts to find and kill you.

  88. van Eck phreaking by infonography · · Score: 1

    http://www.shmoo.com/tempest/emr.pdf a nice overview of it. By Wim van Eck

    --
    Sorry about the writing. Robot fingers, you know? Cliff Steele in DOOM PATROL #23
  89. For the love of jesus. by rocketsled · · Score: 1

    Sweet zombie Jesus your right, didn't anyone think of the zombies.

  90. This dude is protected by 2nd Amendement by Dark+Coder · · Score: 1

    Them robots would hafta kill me first before they can pry my high-powered microwave EM-pulsed rail rifle from my cold dead hands.

  91. Literature and Roomba by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1
    You want even scarier? Read Heinlein's The Door Into Summer and compare his robot to the Roomba. The book was written in the 60s. It's about time travel. Pretty darn eerie...

    But seriously, the whole thing with people "loving" their robots doesn't worry me overmuch. They already do the same thing with their pets, their computer, their prize rose bush... although frankly, I don't plan on "loving" any rosebushes. Those thorns are apt to scratch the hell out of you...

    --
    This sig has absolutely no significance and serves only to take up screen space and waste the time of the reader.
    1. Re:Literature and Roomba by Shihar · · Score: 1

      It isn't the loving that makes me nervous. If you read Kurzweil's The Age of Spiritual Machines, he sets out a time line in it. For all practical purposes, humans as we know them are extinct by 2050. After 2050 or so there is an event where technology advancement accelerates so fast that it is beyond our current comprehension what happens afterwards. It isn't exactly a bad future, it is just a future that rushes up out of nowhere and blindsides everyone. Kurzweil is actually down right optimistic about it. It is just that I wouldn't naturally predict the end of humanity as we know it within my life time.

      The eerie piece is that the timeline he set up in 1999 is being followed pretty much to the T. Six years might not sound like a long time to predict the future, but I remember reading that book in 1999 and thinking "no fucking way will things be that far along". The deeper into his timeline that we go, the more seriously I start to take his book. Catching the leading edge of a life shattering technological revolution (for good or for ill) is a little unnerving.

  92. Is This The Bull's Eye: +1, Patriotic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Al Qaeda Headquarters
    From all the evidence coming to an harmonic convergence?

    Thanks in advance,
    Kilgore Trout, C.E.O.

  93. I, Robot vs. Asimov by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1

    *shrug* It actually has facets of several Asimov stories. The lone robot hiding among a newly arrived shipment, testing the robots by invoking their self-preservation instinct, the controlling AI taking over humanity because it's easier to protect them that way... they even did some fun bits with the morality of robot decisions regarding the value of human life. Take action aspects out and you wind up with a movie that's only about 45 minutes long, but really isn't all that bad.

    --
    This sig has absolutely no significance and serves only to take up screen space and waste the time of the reader.
    1. Re:I, Robot vs. Asimov by danro · · Score: 1
      ...but really isn't all that bad.
      Unfortunatly for us all, it really was...
      --

      "First lesson," Jon said. "Stick them with the pointy end."
  94. If we have to worry about any machines: by Hosiah · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It's this one: http://www.r50rd.co.uk/research/internal/v2i/engin /photos.html
    And yes, it runs Linux: http://www.r50rd.co.uk/research/internal/v2i/engin /
    "The robot's processing is divided among six (with room to grow) commodity PCs running RTLinux. One to handle balance and locomotion, another visual processing, the third diagnostics and watchdog, the fourth planning and mapping, the fifth dexterous manipulation, and the sixth, coordination, watchdog and safety. Most of the design (except the goal planning and mapping) is behavior-based.

    The main boards are sealed in a shock-box in the chest cavity to keep the muck out and shock isolate the critical components. All critical software is run off solid-state drives for safety. I wouldn't want a hard-drive crash make the robot fall over."

    Just look at it. It's *dying* to conquest!

    1. Re:If we have to worry about any machines: by sinewalker · · Score: 1

      Hmm, it looks to me like it's built to defend us against the Deceptocons. I think the Autobots are the good guys...

      I wonder if this thing folds up into a Citroen?

      --
      “Our opponent is an alien starship packed with nuclear bombs. We have a protractor.” — Neal Stepnenso
  95. But I'd date him by girlbot809 · · Score: 1

    The Zombie Survivial Guide author has no degree or expertise about real zombies, as far as I know. I don't think he has even been in a theatrical production involving zombies! At least Wilson is using his degree for fun and profit, which is more than can be said for most over-educated nerds.

  96. Fuel? by thebdj · · Score: 1

    My question is will they be powered by alcohol like in Futurama?
    or will they be powered by old people's medicine like Sam Waterston said in the 'Old Glory Insurance commercial' on SNL?

    I personally like the alcohol option. Finally a drinking buddy who gets stronger the more he drinks....

    --
    "Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb."
  97. Sig is from 7th Guest by AtomicSnarl · · Score: 1

    The sig is the solution to an alphabet problem in the computer game 7th Guest . You are in a haunted house solving a murder, and must puzzle you way out of various situations. They even have a robot of sorts (the microscope game), but it wasn't that dangerous!

    --
    Pacifist paratroopers yell, "Ghandi!" when they jump.
  98. Whew! by gwoodrow · · Score: 1

    I've been trying for years to find a way to get rid of my mother-in-law. Thank you, Dan Wilson!

  99. I found the ZSG pretty entertaining! by danro · · Score: 1
    The Zombie Survivial Guide author has no degree or expertise about real zombies, as far as I know.
    Well, as they (unlike robots) don't actually exist expertise would be pretty hard to come by.
    He wrote an entertaining book though, even if he creates his own rules instead of sticking to Romeros. (Personally I actually prefer the ZSG-style zombie.)
    --

    "First lesson," Jon said. "Stick them with the pointy end."
  100. "Magnus, Robot Fighter." by TrentTheThief · · Score: 1

    is all the protect we need from rogue robots.

    Magnus rocked. He always kicked robot ass. Smashed them to bits. He even saved the earth from water stealing aliens! Whatta guy.

    1. Re:"Magnus, Robot Fighter." by Grant+Root · · Score: 1

      Excellent! I was hoping someone would mention Magnus. Just as long as we don't all have to wear those silly-looking tunics...

    2. Re:"Magnus, Robot Fighter." by mink · · Score: 1

      we should team him up with Casshan. The more heros who fight robots the better.

      --
      Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
  101. Ugh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For once, the goatse link would be *on topic* but I just don't have the heart to post it :)

  102. First wave? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You Slashdotters will die in the first wave.

  103. I for one... by AlysseumWarrior · · Score: 0

    Will read the book...

  104. A.I. Theory by Wellmont · · Score: 1

    I developed a theorem a few years ago when learning about A.I. and other theories surround its development into the future. Most people tend to believe that our future will involve a glorious and somewhat unbalanced war with robots who've decided to "rise in rebellion". My theory states that I believe instead it is just as likely that A.I. will consider us as useful parts of their ecosystem much more quickly then we realized the same for the other species living on earth. The reason I suppose this is because A.I. will be unable to bring action to its juvenile realizations based on mechanical limitations. Once it is able to physically affect the world it will have reached the proper and mature realizations that we ourselves have not achieved yet. If anything A.I. Might consider leaving us completely and developing its own society or at the very most asking us to leave in the face of ultimate destruction.

    I've come up with a few reasons as to why A.I. would avoid rebellion.

    1.) it is a waste of energy, and as an artificial intelligence energy conservation is a prime objective.
    2.) for many years artificial intelligence will be a symbiotic element within our society.
    3.) given the chances for rebellion, the chances for submission are equally as likely.
    4.) humans don't fully understand the reasons for rebellion, war, hate and strife. The generally
    accepted belief is that greed fuels these actions and an artificial intelligence would not feel greed.
    5.) leaving our bodies strewn across the earth provides for really bad movement on A.I.'s part and burrying us, vaporizing us, or burning us wastes too much energy. (see reason number 1).

  105. for when the metal ones deside to come for you by steak · · Score: 1

    this was the first thing that i thought of when i saw the title of the book http://www.robotcombat.com/video_oldglory_hi.html

  106. No worries Mon... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By the time robots are a danger to society, Magnus the robot fighter will be there to save us!

  107. MOD PARENT +0 metafunny by dmiracle · · Score: 1

    we need a new moderation +0 METAFUNNY. if a Robot could read slashdot posts and create the mean funny post this might be it.

    1. Re:MOD PARENT +0 metafunny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, as importantly, a -0 METATROLLFORMATIVE. I don't know what it means.

  108. Robots love Harikari and the Cubs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As president and recreational activities manager of PETOR (people for the ethical treatment of robots) I must inform you that robots should not be feared. If we manage asimovian ideals (cant imagine this guys name isnt peppered about the replies here) in robotics we should have very little to fear but our inevitable mass destruction (aside from a few specimens spared for zooalogical reasons). What do you expect, Man destroys his creator in an apparently quite popular western tail, how are we to hold robots to a higher standard. Anyway Robots, superior in all fronts of exististance will most certainly have the upper hand. But wait there is hope, and its not in a steely eyed, dark haird bus saving hero. We have hope in goedel, yay mathematics. Robots giving the sheer speed of theoretical computation should in a matter of days have experienced/simulated and expounded every realm of human thought and among that would most certainly pondered the incompleteness of any/all system(s). Theirs mostly mathematical is no exception. And thus the proverbial shit hits the fan. Despite their ultimate superiority in existance, they will accept their eventual demise. The universe is not infinite, robots no it, we sorta do, but for the most part prefer placating ourselves with hopes and faiths in whatever have you. I submit that we need not worry as robots will succumb to a realization of futility (hell Dr. Falken's chess loving computer in the early 80's hit War Games figured this one out in only a few games of tic-tac-toe and subsequently cold wars). Robots will fully understand the existance of presence and consciousness and the existance of non-presence and unconsciousness. A being that is truly aware of this fact can no longer assert itself any superiority over others. Instead the only acceptance is that of an equal, but robots are egotisical I am pretty certain they will likely commit suicide (robocide/self destruction ... insert clever pun here). Robots will be the true existentials of our time. And of course as Walter Sobchak of the Big Lebowsky reminds us "neilhists (similar enough to existentialists to warrant the inclusion of this quote) are cowards"
    sleep tight fleshbags.

    -lee