I agree in principle, but why hasn't your proposal happened yet?
There are plenty of free anti-virus products around that require you to update with the latest signatures, so money is not the issue. (I know most "free" anti-virus products have a paid corporate version, but what about others such as Clam-AV?)
If people can write free and open office suites, development platforms, database applications, and even whole operating systems, why hasn't anyone written an anti-virus application such that you're proposing?
I'm not a programmer, but I'm guessing it's harder that it sounds.
I thought that was the point. Telling people how to behave is the successful way. Too many ridiculous options, too many unnecessary forks or competing projects (e.g. KDE vs Gnome) is the way to come last.
It's great for us geeky types, but it can't become dominant or mainstream. And who says it has to? If the majority of people use MS Messenger, and you use Pidgin (or it's fork), what's the problem? If the majority of Slashdot users have a Linux desktop, who cares what year it is?
How is this different to what Apple does? Because those of us that are happy to tinker, can. Those that use Apple (quite happily), can't.
Screw the Melbournians! Here in Canberra we're still under heavy water restrictions, and every time I have friends come to visit from the coast they're shocked at how dry things are inland. Goulburn's water supply was down to single digit percentages, while my parents in northern NSW were getting floods.
The dust blowing in from further inland is shocking. We aren't getting any significant rain, but we'll get a small drizzle every now and then, just enough to turn the dust in the air to mud.
The grandparent poster can go fuck himself, no doubt in the back of his SUV.
I had a similar experience. After all the hype I've been reading about Ubuntu, I finally thought I'd give it a try.
I tried installing Ubuntu 7.10. The display died part way into the initial boot. The CD kept spinning, and the system was obviously doing stuff in the background, but I couldn't see anything. The video drivers are crap, and keep dying (though without taking the rest of the system with it).
Bugger that. I'm sticking to Vista and PC-BSD. They actually work.
Some OS's *cough*Linux*cough*BSD*cough* let you choose among dozens of different UI's without messing with the kernel.
I keep hearing zealots say that. What are these "dozens of UI's" you speak of? There's KDE and Gnome, and...? And don't give some "windowmaker" bullshit - give me half a dozen viable options.
What UI's could I use at work that are comparable to Windows or OSX?
While my first instinct is to agree with you, I think the future involves systems that will learn what we want.
These early learning systems will piss us off, and I think the majority of hard-core geeks will turn them off, but they will get better with time. Given a few generations, they will ultimately be quite good and a much better way of doing things.
They will eventually solve issues, like when I jump on your machine and it behaves significantly different to mine, but just give it time.
Seriously, jump! I switched from Debian (2.something, I think) to FreeBSD 4.5 *years* ago. I haven't been happier.
I'm still running FreeBSD 6.3 on my server, and I will upgrade to 7 soon, but I found PC-BSD to be the better desktop system (DesktopBSD had strange quirks, and wasn't as polished).
PC-BSD uses the "stable" FreeBSD as it's base, so although it's currently FreeBSD 6.3 based, that'll no doubt change to 7.0 soon. PC-BSD also uses KDE as it's desktop environment, so you'll have no trouble with your apps.
In the OSS world, 6 months is a long time. If you haven't tried the recommended beginner linux distro at the version that has been released within the last 6 months, you shouldn't be asserting that modern linux distros are not mature.
Oh, grow up. Fuck-all happens in the OSS world in 6 months. I've been hearing about Ubuntu for just over 6 months now, so to me, Ubuntu sounds new and unproven (fanboi rants aside). Redhat (now Fedora) used to be the recommended distro for beginners, so he's perfectly justified in judging the generic Linux using that distro.
There are still people on this website judging Windows by what it did back in '98 (or even '95), are you're saying I'm not allowed to judge Linux by it's behaviour 6 months ago? Are you trolling?
Like? All the other OS email clients are even more stagnant.
I was gonna argue with you (I'm a Seamonkey user), but then I realised the majority of Seamonkey enhancements filter down from Firefox and Thunderbird.
It's amazing what difference money can make to "free" software. It just never occurred to me that it could cripple a related project. Now I'm worried about my choice of browser/mail client. Shit, eh?
His declaration isn't irrelevant or immature. Judging by his signature, I'd say he's a Discordian. That makes his comment perfectly relevant.
We Discordians value constructiveness over destructiveness. Organised religions (particularly monotheistic religions) value order over disorder, even if that order is destructive. This need for order ultimately leads to the Curse of Greyface.
The Catholic Church has killed and imprisoned millions of people. Millions of fucken people! Once they stopped that, they started protecting paedophiles as a matter of church policy. The church won't even allow the use of condoms in areas where up to 40% of the population has HIV.
The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a "mouse". There is no evidence that people want to use these things.
- John C. Dvorak, SF Examiner, Feb. 1984
When I hit Ctrl-Alt-Delete, I see that the System Idle Process is hogging all the resources and chewing up 95 percent of the processor's cycles. Doing what? Doing nothing?
(http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1334678,00.asp)
- John C. Dvorak, PC mag, 29th Sept, 2003
Dude, I'm not trolling here, I swear, but what you've said just doesn't sound right.
I've been using Vista for a few months now, and I haven't found anything I can't do. I can still rip CDs and DVDs, and I haven't found any restrictions on anything. (My hardware is over two years old, Athlon64 3000+ on an Asus A8N.)
There's even a few things Vista lets me do that XP wouldn't. For example, if I was playing a movie in Media Player Classic on XP, and I took a screenshot, the movie being played would show up black in the screenshot. Vista lets me grab screenshots no problem.
Does your above examples only apply to HD content? (I don't have any HD hardware.)
While I think most of the changes made in the Director's Cut (and I assume this new version which I haven't seen) are for the better, I never liked the way it was implied Deckard could be a replicant.
In the seen where Roy saves Deckard, then dies, I always thought it was quite powerful how the replicant showed more humanity than the actual human. I *really* didn't like how that was taken from me in the updated versions.
No disrespect to eviloverlordx, but the brontosaurus didn't exist. It was a mistake (I must admit, I thought this was revealed years ago, I'm surprised so many people here didn't know).
My understanding was that the brontosaurus was the body of the apatosaurus, and the skull of a diplodocus. Not really a name change, more of an "oops".
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Karma Police, arrest this man.
I agree in principle, but why hasn't your proposal happened yet?
There are plenty of free anti-virus products around that require you to update with the latest signatures, so money is not the issue. (I know most "free" anti-virus products have a paid corporate version, but what about others such as Clam-AV?)
If people can write free and open office suites, development platforms, database applications, and even whole operating systems, why hasn't anyone written an anti-virus application such that you're proposing?
I'm not a programmer, but I'm guessing it's harder that it sounds.
I thought that was the point. Telling people how to behave is the successful way. Too many ridiculous options, too many unnecessary forks or competing projects (e.g. KDE vs Gnome) is the way to come last.
It's great for us geeky types, but it can't become dominant or mainstream. And who says it has to? If the majority of people use MS Messenger, and you use Pidgin (or it's fork), what's the problem? If the majority of Slashdot users have a Linux desktop, who cares what year it is?
How is this different to what Apple does? Because those of us that are happy to tinker, can. Those that use Apple (quite happily), can't.
And everyone is happy.
Kyle, my balls are so dry. So very, very dry.
Don't be a[b]surd.
Screw the Melbournians! Here in Canberra we're still under heavy water restrictions, and every time I have friends come to visit from the coast they're shocked at how dry things are inland. Goulburn's water supply was down to single digit percentages, while my parents in northern NSW were getting floods.
The dust blowing in from further inland is shocking. We aren't getting any significant rain, but we'll get a small drizzle every now and then, just enough to turn the dust in the air to mud.
The grandparent poster can go fuck himself, no doubt in the back of his SUV.
Burn her!!
I had a similar experience. After all the hype I've been reading about Ubuntu, I finally thought I'd give it a try.
I tried installing Ubuntu 7.10. The display died part way into the initial boot. The CD kept spinning, and the system was obviously doing stuff in the background, but I couldn't see anything. The video drivers are crap, and keep dying (though without taking the rest of the system with it).
Bugger that. I'm sticking to Vista and PC-BSD. They actually work.
What UI's could I use at work that are comparable to Windows or OSX?
While I sympathise, I have you beat. I was raised listening to Evie.
Don't cry for me, I'm already dead.
While my first instinct is to agree with you, I think the future involves systems that will learn what we want.
These early learning systems will piss us off, and I think the majority of hard-core geeks will turn them off, but they will get better with time. Given a few generations, they will ultimately be quite good and a much better way of doing things.
They will eventually solve issues, like when I jump on your machine and it behaves significantly different to mine, but just give it time.
Patience, Grasshopper. Patience.
Seriously, jump! I switched from Debian (2.something, I think) to FreeBSD 4.5 *years* ago. I haven't been happier.
:-)
I'm still running FreeBSD 6.3 on my server, and I will upgrade to 7 soon, but I found PC-BSD to be the better desktop system (DesktopBSD had strange quirks, and wasn't as polished).
PC-BSD uses the "stable" FreeBSD as it's base, so although it's currently FreeBSD 6.3 based, that'll no doubt change to 7.0 soon. PC-BSD also uses KDE as it's desktop environment, so you'll have no trouble with your apps.
Good luck!
Oh, grow up. Fuck-all happens in the OSS world in 6 months. I've been hearing about Ubuntu for just over 6 months now, so to me, Ubuntu sounds new and unproven (fanboi rants aside). Redhat (now Fedora) used to be the recommended distro for beginners, so he's perfectly justified in judging the generic Linux using that distro.
There are still people on this website judging Windows by what it did back in '98 (or even '95), are you're saying I'm not allowed to judge Linux by it's behaviour 6 months ago? Are you trolling?
It's amazing what difference money can make to "free" software. It just never occurred to me that it could cripple a related project. Now I'm worried about my choice of browser/mail client. Shit, eh?
I wish I had mod points to vote you up.
Very well worded!
Oh, grow up.
His declaration isn't irrelevant or immature. Judging by his signature, I'd say he's a Discordian. That makes his comment perfectly relevant.
We Discordians value constructiveness over destructiveness. Organised religions (particularly monotheistic religions) value order over disorder, even if that order is destructive. This need for order ultimately leads to the Curse of Greyface.
The Catholic Church has killed and imprisoned millions of people. Millions of fucken people! Once they stopped that, they started protecting paedophiles as a matter of church policy. The church won't even allow the use of condoms in areas where up to 40% of the population has HIV.
How fucken long are you gonna take to build Rome?
Hey! You forgot the Ngunnawal here in the ACT!
They're only the traditional owners of the nation's friggan' capital!
Hey! I'm acronymically challenged, you insesitive clod!!
Dude, I'm not trolling here, I swear, but what you've said just doesn't sound right.
I've been using Vista for a few months now, and I haven't found anything I can't do. I can still rip CDs and DVDs, and I haven't found any restrictions on anything. (My hardware is over two years old, Athlon64 3000+ on an Asus A8N.)
There's even a few things Vista lets me do that XP wouldn't. For example, if I was playing a movie in Media Player Classic on XP, and I took a screenshot, the movie being played would show up black in the screenshot. Vista lets me grab screenshots no problem.
Does your above examples only apply to HD content? (I don't have any HD hardware.)
While I think most of the changes made in the Director's Cut (and I assume this new version which I haven't seen) are for the better, I never liked the way it was implied Deckard could be a replicant.
In the seen where Roy saves Deckard, then dies, I always thought it was quite powerful how the replicant showed more humanity than the actual human. I *really* didn't like how that was taken from me in the updated versions.
Meh. I'm hard to please.
No disrespect to eviloverlordx, but the brontosaurus didn't exist. It was a mistake (I must admit, I thought this was revealed years ago, I'm surprised so many people here didn't know).
My understanding was that the brontosaurus was the body of the apatosaurus, and the skull of a diplodocus. Not really a name change, more of an "oops".
Yes! A voice of reason!
What is so hard to get? Do you want to dine at a nice restaurant, or eat at McDonald's? Do you want Isis or Britney Spears?
You don't buy a chihuahua then complain it's not a Doberman.