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More Antarctic Dinosaurs
RockDoctor writes "The highly respected palaeontology journal Acta Palaeontologica Polonica has published its December number for free access on the Web, with the headline paper concerning new discoveries of dinosaurs from Antarctica. (Paper here, PDF.) The first major part of these discoveries was made in 1991, when isolated bones of a sauropod (a relative of the Apatosaurus, formerly known as Brontosaurus) were found associated with a theropod (ancestor or cousin of Tyrannosaurus rex). The sauropod has been named Glacialisaurus hammeri (the reason for the genus name is obvious, and Professor Hammer led the field expeditions under 'extremely difficult conditions'). The herbivore was some 25 ft. long and weighed 4 to 6 tons; at the time of life, the area was between 55 and 65 degrees south, suggesting a climate similar to the Falkland Islands or Tierra del Fuego."
So that's where Jesus hid them all!
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Why did they change the name of the brontosaurus? I liked that name better.
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When & why did we stop calling a brontosaurus a brontosaurus?
Next thing you'll tell me we only have 8 planets!
Nope, I wouldn't say that at all.
There is an image of the thing on this blog if you are interested. http://thedragonstales.blogspot.com/2007/12/hail-glacialisaurus-hammeri.html
watch for dino DNA in the bones. it's not that long ago
ahm, how so? The Antarctic used to be in a warmer region so it should have all sorts of remnants on it.
I'm not following. How do bones in the antarctic effect theories around climate change? If nothing else it is an example of (massive climate change) == (most stuff really dead)
Researchers have still to uncover this creature's habitat, but they did find the petrified parts of a corpse belonging to a rather large creature, which is referred to more commonly by its Latin name, Nix Quintis, as well as remains of another animal known as Distriae Berkeleyus; the latter was known to have been wiped out approximately sixteen million years ago due to the Netcraft epidemics, which gives us a rough idea as to how old Minix is.
A lean predator, Minix was known to be a vicious and somewhat egotistical creature, prone to fits of foaming anger and long diatribes, with which it used as a means to kill its prey.
While we do not yet know the full extent of Minix, it is well studied by previously found fragments, and today's discovery should present a far clearer picture in the years to come as it reveals its secrets.
Meanwhile, paradoxically, no trace has yet to be found of the species known as Bloatasaurus, or Vista Microsoftae. A large, slow-moving creature, this dinosaur was well known to have been a common victim of predatory attacks, and yet very few have been found. Archaeologist Steve Ballmer is heading the team searching for Bloatasaurus, though his peers still doubt his claims that "They're everywhere! It was the most popular friggin' beast alive!" Whether this creature actually existed still remains in doubt among some.
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Actually, the dinosaurs lived there before the continents moved to their current locations. It was quite a bit closer to the equator at that time, so whether or not the antarctic heating up is a good thing or a bad thing is still up in the air. Also, you seem to have switched your attacks from "global warming != bad" to "humans aren't causing it", which is somewhat confusing and makes your post harder to understand.
From the article...
"This was probably due to the fact that major connections between the continents still existed at that time, and because climates were more equitable across latitudes than they are today," Smith said.
Can we just go one discussion without bringing up global warming? While it's midly related, this is more about Pangaea and where Antarctica was 190 million years ago.
If i had mod point I'd have used funny not troll.
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Imagine 4 to 6 ton dinosaur on arctic ice...
I prefer the traditional name for that Dino, thanks.
The name Brontosaurus strikes an image of a colossal behemoth that would crush you to paste if you got in its way.
Apatosaurus sounds like it should be serving you tea cakes.
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so there were herbivores in the Antarctic.
did Al Gore predict this?
The earth surface was once molten rock and from the way you people talk, it would be just fine if it was again.
Call them sauropods and theropods, but we know Elder Things and shoggoths when we hear about them...
Hammeri Time
My, my, my, my dino hits me so hard
Makes me say oh my word
Thank you for proving me
With a mind to dig and two cold feet
Feels good when you know you're down
A superdope therapod from the oldtown
And I'm known
as such
And this is a beat uh you can touch
The sauropod has been named Glacialisaurus hammeri (the reason for the genus name is obvious, and Professor Hammer led the field expeditions under 'extremely difficult conditions')
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They had the name first for their Brontosaurus Burgers. They sent a guy named Barney around to rough up some professors till they changed it.
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Sure, it is easy to understand that Antarctica might have been closer to the equator and moved, but if the atmosphere etc was the same as todays (or similar) then surely the global climate would have been similar to todays and the polar bits (that have moved out of the way now) would have been frozen, as they are today.
So the big question: what is so different bad then that allows such sweeping statements to be made?
Engineering is the art of compromise.
How about... "if dinosaurs existed long enough ago that they're fossils now, then perhaps the planet warming up is merely a return to its original conditions, when our ancestors were food, rather than the apex predator"... who knows, maybe the dinosaurs should've burned more hydrocarbons so maybe the globe would've warmed and they would still be alive chomping on those poorly evolved mammals.
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If they think the earth is only 6000 years old becuase they have only read the first half of a book then they will think there is no time for continental drift. Ignore them, they don't believe in education in general and think dinosaurs are a hoax anyway.
Hear that, penguins?
Out!
How dare you be so modest!! You conceited bastard!!
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Which, of course, is why you no longer get mod points..
"becuase they have only read the first half of a book "
should be:
"becuase they have misunderstood the first half of a book "
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Sounds to me all the continents must have been at the equator.
Have they slowed down? One must be able to calculate exactly where they were and when. Does that coincide with the dinos?
Ok, if scientists are allowed to dig for dinosaurs, I'd like go set myself up with an oil well for, ummm, "research purposes"...
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Because I can not resolve in my own mind how anyone can claim to believe in global "warming", yet have no clue as to what represents a "normal" temperature. According to the article, Antarctica was once much warmer than it is today -- so why not establish that period of time as representative of earth's "normal" temperature? That would show we are in a period of global cooling and any rise in temperature would mean we were moving back towards normal. Who the hell is to say that the last 100 or 1000 years should represent the normal temperature of earth and totally ignore a couple billion years. Simply because someone likes the idea of keeping their beach house in the family doesn't mean this is the normal temperature of the earth. It wasn't so long ago that most of North America was completely underwater -- is that "normal" ? Why not?
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Global warming is not only not man made, it hasn't gotten warmer in the last 5 years. The only global warming anyone can actually point to is a bunch of erred NASA reports from the 80's and statistical analysis by computers of the errorous data. I'm sure everyone here on slashdot appreciates the inaccuracy of any analytical computer program predicticting the outcome of anything in the real world. These computer climate models, while entertaining, have absolutely nothing to do with reality, it's a kin to a gigantic magic 8 ball. The best proof that global warming is a crock of shit is how defencive proponents are of any skeptics : http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=c9554887-802a-23ad-4303-68f67ebd151c . This global warming farce and gone on long enough! It's time for the halfway intelligent people to say "Enough politics in science!"
Well that's why they found dinosaur *bones* and not living dinosaurs!
Duh...
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Ah! Thats where I left my Apato-burger (formerly known as Bronto-burger).
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It's called "Jurassic Park"
It has velociraptors
Eating lawyers in the dark
I'd like to watch it every day
And if you ask me why I'll say
"'cause Steven Spielberg has a way
With fossil dino D.N.A!"
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Don't forget to add, that the CO2 levels were also predicted to be higher as Pangea was breaking up and the resulting vulcanism released large amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. The climate in that region was more closer to tropical- something akin to the climate in Miami.
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You dingalings have everything wrong again. Evolutionists claim dinosaurs and man never existed together in the same time period. So if you do believe them then you have to disregard your own comments here.
The earth is what? Like hundreds of millions of years old? Only 10 million, okay, whatever...
The point is the same. Many upon many catastrophic events (HUGE earthquakes, volcanic events, great floods even, recorded by every civilization of the world) change lots of stuff. Plates in the earth move. Sometimes a lot. Antarctica is a moving target on a geological time scale.
~~~Sorry, no proof of that whatsoever. Also no proof that it did not happen, but science requires proof. There are fossils of very large palm fronds in the Canadian Arctic. The earth's atmosphere millenia ago was DRASTICALLY different from the one we have now and EVERYTHING in earth science points to that scientific fact.
I, for one, would like to welcome our new ancient ice-covered reptilian overlords. Probably a step up from the current administration....
at the time of life, the area was between 55 and 65 degrees south, suggesting a climate similar to the Falkland Islands or Tierra del Fuego.
At that time the climate in the area between 55 and 65 degrees south was not that of today's Falkland Islands. The world was several degrees warmer.
Penguins are dieing out, many Microsoft funded studies confirm it.
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Oh, go look it up already.
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... is that it was narrow at one end, big in the middle and narrow at the other end.
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Now we just need for the scientist to find the aliens that were stored down there in ancient times by the alien predators. Then we can harness them as a military weapon to defeat the terrorist.
Of course, they will get loose just as the predator aliens are returning for a hunting expedition. Then we will need Sigorny Weaver AND Arnold Schwarzennager to defeat them and stop them from turning the entire human population into baby food.
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I might be feeding a troll, but Antarctica has not always been at the South Pole. In fact, there have been times when it has been located (as best as I can remember) near or at the equator.
There where found rests of fossilized parachute pants over their bones... Ahh, I can imagine a rampage of dozens of parachute-pants-wearing dinosaurs singing: "Stop! Hammeri time!"
So, yes, this find does indicate that either these dinosaurs were able to thrive in much cooler climates that previously given credit for, or that the global climate was much warmer, for at least one extended period in the past, than Global Warming(TM) activists are willing to admit.
Gotta love those dino bones. First they kick the crap out of Creationism, now they do the same for Global Warming. What other anthropocentric delusion will be next?
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or that the global climate was much warmer, for at least one extended period in the past, than Global Warming(TM) activists are willing to admit.
WTF? Every idiot knows the earth was once much warmer. This has nothing to do with the global warming debate. Guess what? The earth didn't always support life. Does that make it "ok" with you if I sterilize the planet? Who give a flying stink if the earth was once warmer or colder. The question is, how will it effect humans?
But a less moderate (and I daresay more common) position would insist that you also care about how this affects all living things (or at least the cute and useful ones) and not just humans. Careful, you may not be a part of the universal GW "consensus" I keep hearing about.
Even if the angle was the same (eg end on), the same would still hold true.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
these days if I can't torrent it in audio or convert it to .pdb onto my treo for consumption on mass transit I don't read it. at least Open Office has that as a save-as option
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When will they grow dinosaurs on chips?