No. If it weren't for people like me you wouldn't have OSS to begin with. Neither I nor anyone else is responsible for making sure the Red Hat or any other company's business model provides them with money. OSS will still exist without companies trying to make money from it. I don't begrudge anyone the attempt, but I don't really care about the outcome. OSS existed before companies tried to use it as a business model, it will exist after.
I have no problem with RH or anyone charging money for support. I never use it but if I needed it I would be fine with paying for it. However, sellign service IS NOT the concept behind OSS, it is a consequence of it. There is an important difference.
Yes, us "lifer deadbeats". God forbid we use tools that are by definition free and open. I'm not an OSS nazi but I do take offense at someone throwing the word deadbeat around at those who use the software the way it was intended.
I've paid for distros when it was more convenient for me to do so. Once I got broadband and a cd burner it was more convenient to d/l it. And that's the way it should be, each user deciding what's best for him/her.
Ack, I'm a *nix programmer. I've also decided that I want to know a little about programming Windows apps, especially with DirectX. I'm getting pissed at how difficult it is to get AWAY from the wizard crap. All I want is gcc and the proper libs. But I figured that I would use Visual C++, big mistake... big mistake.
Whatever, believe what you want. The facts are the game wasn't completely played out. The refs fucked up so badly that the NFL had to apologize. The rules weren't followed so the Giants WERE NOT allowed to protect their lead and get the win. Until the untimed last down is played, as I've said before, per NFL rules, the game hasn't ended. It's that simple. The 49ers backed their sorry asses into the the next round of the playoffs.
Because given enough time is enough of a qualifier to ruin the theory. You're neglecting competency, in order to be compentent at something you need to be able to do it in a reasonable amount of time.
But yes in theory, and ignoring the potential for mistakes a human could follow any code he wants.
Wrong. The computer is on it's own (for the most part, there have been times when a program was re coded during a match) once it plays. It's unlikely that the programmers could beat Kasparov, but they're creation can. The software makes the decisions, not the programmers.
As he has described it it is certainly an Urban Legend, however it is based on a true event. I don't have the time to dig it up now, but an enterprising karma whore could dig up the info through the Risks Forum.
Additionally, they didn't blow a 24 point lead, they weren't given the chance to protect that lead because the final play was taken away from them. The better team lost that day.
It doesn't matter whether they took a nap or not. They did what they had to to give themselves the win at the end and the chance was taken away from them by the officials. The NFL admitted the mistake, there should have been an untimed last play of the game per NFL rules. Post season officiating is a problem, as can ALREADY be seen in the Super Bowl. Tampa Bat has to waste a challenge because the official are a bunch of nitwits.
You got screwed! I'm a Giants fan. My team got the shaft and the NFL ADMITTED it the following day. Don't know if that makes me feel better or worse. But it certainly made me angry.
Hell it was... '91 Giants/Bills is considered the best super bowl ever. Thanks to Scott Norwood's nail biting wide right field goal miss to lose the game. I think the guys is a car salesman somewhere now. Second only to Ryan Leaf as NFL fuckup of all time.;)
I would say it gives new meaning to the word dumbass. Both you and the moderators who modded you up. Do some research, the cvs exploit was posted a few days ago.
Errr they're also a lot cheaper. If the PS2, XBox, and Gamecube were the price of the Game Boy you 'd probably see some different results in units sold.
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What exactly is there in Java that allows one to build "complex applications"? I hear that from Java and OO fans all the time
They also have Perl and shell scripts for scripting, Tk for tool interfaces, Expect for testing and automated interactions... and on down the line. Hiring someone to primarily code in C++, or Java or whatever is acceptable if the product is in a particular language, but if the potential employee sits in front of me with only that language to his credit he's not getting the job. The ability to use the right tool for the job is the most important aspect of being able to code.
Sorry to nitpick but "proportion of variance within a given phenotype" is not a unit. The argument is silly though, you obviously mean qualitative instead of quantitative in the original post;)
I guess DRM would come into play there. Or negligence, I'm sure the RIAA would sue over something... it's the only way for them to make their living. If HHGG was written today, I'm sure RIAA and MPAA members would have been among those on the ship that crash landed on earth.
Mentions that John Doe was accused of sharing over 600 files. I guess that would make a little more sense for them to go after him. I can't imagine that trying to go after everyone who has downloaded mp3's would be economically feasible. Especially since they would have to 1) prove that the downloader didn't own the cd, 2) prove that the mp3 was actually a copywritten song (it could easily be a homework assignment with an odd filename. Those are two hurdles off of the top of my head that would probably throw a wrench into any attempt to prosecute. Likely this is more of an RIAA bid to scare ISP's into trying to crack down on use of P2P apps over their networks.
Shit that's how I got started coding. My dad and I would get books out of the library full of programs which we would type in. they would invariably not work, and need to be fixed. It was a lot of fun for a kid. So while my friends would play their C64 games (remember how many pirated games you could get for it?) I would write code in GBASIC and later c on my PC XT with no hard disk;)
Uhhh how did this get modded to insightful?? The forums have been brought back as READ ONLY. Christ you can see that in just the story summary. How difficult is it to read the whole post before charging headlong into a comment to bash the editors?
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No. If it weren't for people like me you wouldn't have OSS to begin with. Neither I nor anyone else is responsible for making sure the Red Hat or any other company's business model provides them with money. OSS will still exist without companies trying to make money from it. I don't begrudge anyone the attempt, but I don't really care about the outcome. OSS existed before companies tried to use it as a business model, it will exist after.
(3) testing that involves user interaction and
That's what Excpect is for.
(2) testing with databases,
Make sure there's static data that is used for regression testing changes
(1) existing code that wasn't designed for unit testing,
No such thing. IF it can't be unit tested, then it's really, really bad code. The like of which no one has seen before
Unit Testing isn't the be all and end all, but these complaints don't make sense.
I have no problem with RH or anyone charging money for support. I never use it but if I needed it I would be fine with paying for it. However, sellign service IS NOT the concept behind OSS, it is a consequence of it. There is an important difference.
Thank you for abusing that fool of the freeloader notion. It's GPL for god's sake, that's the reason the license is like that... and thank God.
I've paid for distros when it was more convenient for me to do so. Once I got broadband and a cd burner it was more convenient to d/l it. And that's the way it should be, each user deciding what's best for him/her.
Ack, I'm a *nix programmer. I've also decided that I want to know a little about programming Windows apps, especially with DirectX. I'm getting pissed at how difficult it is to get AWAY from the wizard crap. All I want is gcc and the proper libs. But I figured that I would use Visual C++, big mistake... big mistake.
Whatever, believe what you want. The facts are the game wasn't completely played out. The refs fucked up so badly that the NFL had to apologize. The rules weren't followed so the Giants WERE NOT allowed to protect their lead and get the win. Until the untimed last down is played, as I've said before, per NFL rules, the game hasn't ended. It's that simple. The 49ers backed their sorry asses into the the next round of the playoffs.
But yes in theory, and ignoring the potential for mistakes a human could follow any code he wants.
Err, therefore... computers are better at chess.
Wrong. The computer is on it's own (for the most part, there have been times when a program was re coded during a match) once it plays. It's unlikely that the programmers could beat Kasparov, but they're creation can. The software makes the decisions, not the programmers.
As he has described it it is certainly an Urban Legend, however it is based on a true event. I don't have the time to dig it up now, but an enterprising karma whore could dig up the info through the Risks Forum.
Additionally, they didn't blow a 24 point lead, they weren't given the chance to protect that lead because the final play was taken away from them. The better team lost that day.
It doesn't matter whether they took a nap or not. They did what they had to to give themselves the win at the end and the chance was taken away from them by the officials. The NFL admitted the mistake, there should have been an untimed last play of the game per NFL rules. Post season officiating is a problem, as can ALREADY be seen in the Super Bowl. Tampa Bat has to waste a challenge because the official are a bunch of nitwits.
You got screwed! I'm a Giants fan. My team got the shaft and the NFL ADMITTED it the following day. Don't know if that makes me feel better or worse. But it certainly made me angry.
Hell it was... '91 Giants/Bills is considered the best super bowl ever. Thanks to Scott Norwood's nail biting wide right field goal miss to lose the game. I think the guys is a car salesman somewhere now. Second only to Ryan Leaf as NFL fuckup of all time. ;)
I would say it gives new meaning to the word dumbass. Both you and the moderators who modded you up. Do some research, the cvs exploit was posted a few days ago.
Errr they're also a lot cheaper. If the PS2, XBox, and Gamecube were the price of the Game Boy you 'd probably see some different results in units sold.
What exactly is there in Java that allows one to build "complex applications"? I hear that from Java and OO fans all the time
They also have Perl and shell scripts for scripting, Tk for tool interfaces, Expect for testing and automated interactions... and on down the line. Hiring someone to primarily code in C++, or Java or whatever is acceptable if the product is in a particular language, but if the potential employee sits in front of me with only that language to his credit he's not getting the job. The ability to use the right tool for the job is the most important aspect of being able to code.
then you probably should not be throwing around terms you don't understand such as quantitative and qualitative
Hope that was directed at the original comment that attacked you, I was just pointing out the mis-choice of words
Sorry to nitpick but "proportion of variance within a given phenotype" is not a unit. The argument is silly though, you obviously mean qualitative instead of quantitative in the original post ;)
I guess DRM would come into play there. Or negligence, I'm sure the RIAA would sue over something... it's the only way for them to make their living. If HHGG was written today, I'm sure RIAA and MPAA members would have been among those on the ship that crash landed on earth.
Mentions that John Doe was accused of sharing over 600 files. I guess that would make a little more sense for them to go after him. I can't imagine that trying to go after everyone who has downloaded mp3's would be economically feasible. Especially since they would have to 1) prove that the downloader didn't own the cd, 2) prove that the mp3 was actually a copywritten song (it could easily be a homework assignment with an odd filename. Those are two hurdles off of the top of my head that would probably throw a wrench into any attempt to prosecute. Likely this is more of an RIAA bid to scare ISP's into trying to crack down on use of P2P apps over their networks.
That's probably why it's unheard of ;)
Shit that's how I got started coding. My dad and I would get books out of the library full of programs which we would type in. they would invariably not work, and need to be fixed. It was a lot of fun for a kid. So while my friends would play their C64 games (remember how many pirated games you could get for it?) I would write code in GBASIC and later c on my PC XT with no hard disk ;)
Uhhh how did this get modded to insightful?? The forums have been brought back as READ ONLY. Christ you can see that in just the story summary. How difficult is it to read the whole post before charging headlong into a comment to bash the editors?