Come on now, do we have to wade through the making fun of the beowulf clusters posts for the next sixth months now. It wasn't even funny the first time, yet there's still a couple modded up ones under every topic.
I buy an HP, HP techs (and I use the term loosely) agreed to the click thorough license, (legally binding in MD). I never agreed to it, I never saw it. So I now have a copy of Windows which I can do whatever I want with. Somehow I doubt I could get away with cpying it and re-distibuting it, but now legally even with UCITA, I can reverse engineer it or whatever.
Your first paragraph is dead on, up until your concluding sentence, this DOES have something do do with MS licensing. When you pay for a machine you are paying for that Windows license, not HP in fact they are probably making a profit off of brokering the license between you and MS, you have a right to that disc.
Must take a while to line up all those transistors in the IC packages. Not to mention producing the materials needed to make the trransistors. You did say from scratch didn't you?
The way I would probably demonstrate this would be by writing a VB program in front of a group of people, much like the seminars. As I add features, I would tally the number of patents I infringed on.
Hell, you don't even have to show any code
I certainly wouldn't show my code if I were writing programs in VB, in fact I'd carry that secret to my grave.
Not likely, even if such an attack were possible, number one there most likely isn't anyone with the wealth to pull it off, and two, the external entity would be SOL when the US repealed/amended the laws to retaliate. So not only did that money pour money into getting the patent, it's money is now gone forever.
Unfortunately, unless some serious changes are on the way I don't see PayPal sticking around. Anyways dotcoms were never dead, the wheat got separated from the chaff is all.
HEHE mod this guy up, that's a good argument ad absurdium, comparing murder to copying games. Hehe, not to mention that most people use the cable to write their own software for it or d/l other peoples free creations.... oh the parent wasn't kidding was he.
That's funny, I've owned a cable for months, never copied a single game, that's not why I bought it. Hacking the DC is why I bought it, because it's fun and my skills get that much better playing with various architectures.
Disclaimer: I have no idea what the article is about or whether the serial cable does indeed have a valid legal use or not. I just get annoyed by all the whiners on Slashdot who bitch and moan about their "rights" to other peoples creations
Then don't post bullshit rhetoric. The primary use for that cable is for people who want to use the DC as a medium for their own creations. Which they have EVERY right to do since it's their DC. Has Sega made the cable, or produced enough broadband adapters we'd be using those instead. There is a huge difference between reverse engineering and steeling mp3's, don't even try to lump them into the same category.
Interesting but completely impractical. With the wide variety of machines and architectures out there everyone would get a different "price". But still interesting.
I remember that bit from Plato, but we're talking about two different things here. It is the vocalization of displeasure (or interest in other topics) that is the lifeblood of a topic. If a topic got little or no posts or viewings the editors would probably not be as willing to post it. I probably worded my previous post to far to the extreme, silence can of course imply assent, but not, I feel, in this case. Silence in respose to a direct query is more likely to imply assent (or guilt) but here the silence is ignoring the worthless topics, hopefully killing them.
"Silence gives assent". In other words, by not challenging the nonsense that he writes it appears to the silent masses that he is correct
That's not always true, in fact that's so rarely true that it has no basis in reality whatsoever. Especially not in a discussion forum. Especially not on/. who's continued success and the ability to make money are hinged on lively discussions, i.e. a lot of posters, and readers hitting a lot of pages so a lot of banners get hits. Silence is the death sentence for a particular topic here. I'm not sure how that aphorism was ever regarded as true.
Come on, taking on the role of a mentally-retarded person has been the cheesy cliche thing to do for years in Hollywood. Actors pray for that role because it ALWAYS seems to bring critical acclaim. "A Beatiful Mind" I can deal with, even if it is sensationalized, at least it's about a real mathematician.
Nope, I'm sure the that the recipients of the cash for all those banner hits are thrilled that Katz inspires mini-Katz flames everytime he posts something.:) I definitley find it amusing, if the Katz haters didn't want him around, (ignoring the obvious filter him) they wouldn't post at all, if he wasn't drawing a single comment he'd probably get the ax. Personally I like to see his psuedo-intellectual, pompous, bullshit. It just reminds me how lucky I am to be intelligent.;)
See there's my problem with the whole thing, I'm pretty certain that they CANNOT get a warrant. So basically what I'm hearing they're basically using scare tactics. Does anyone know whether or not any legal action has resulted from threats from the BSA? Every once and awhile I hear the commercials on the radio I'm sure others have heard them. Thinly veiled threats as if their on a mission from God to root out piracy. My company doesn't use any pirated software, though I half wish I could start my own company, phone in a tip to the BSA and tell them to fuck off back to Salem when they threaten me.
...I've never quite understood why the BSA has any power, I'm not sure why companies don't tell them to go fuck off and take their McCarthy hunt elsewhere.
Heh, I got rid of my subscription about that time it started to really go downhill shortly after that. While we're speaking of Wired porn, there was also the naked angel on one of the opening pages of another issue around that time as well.
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I guess that depends on what you mean by hackers. I was exploring the internet when it was still young, learning programming from the more experienced and usenet, seeing what I could find out there. Granted my computer wasn't in my bedroom, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who was out there learning and exploring.
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If there's no login and password, and it's sitting on a publically available system, reachable from any phone, I'm not stealing shit.
Come on now, do we have to wade through the making fun of the beowulf clusters posts for the next sixth months now. It wasn't even funny the first time, yet there's still a couple modded up ones under every topic.
Not much... only YOUR SOUL Muhahahahahaha ;)
Yeah, for all that I use... wait for it.... a tv and a DVD player. Wow the technological advances in the new century.
I buy an HP, HP techs (and I use the term loosely) agreed to the click thorough license, (legally binding in MD). I never agreed to it, I never saw it. So I now have a copy of Windows which I can do whatever I want with. Somehow I doubt I could get away with cpying it and re-distibuting it, but now legally even with UCITA, I can reverse engineer it or whatever.
Your first paragraph is dead on, up until your concluding sentence, this DOES have something do do with MS licensing. When you pay for a machine you are paying for that Windows license, not HP in fact they are probably making a profit off of brokering the license between you and MS, you have a right to that disc.
Must take a while to line up all those transistors in the IC packages. Not to mention producing the materials needed to make the trransistors. You did say from scratch didn't you?
The way I would probably demonstrate this would be by writing a VB program in front of a group of people, much like the seminars. As I add features, I would tally the number of patents I infringed on.
Hell, you don't even have to show any code
I certainly wouldn't show my code if I were writing programs in VB, in fact I'd carry that secret to my grave.
Not likely, even if such an attack were possible, number one there most likely isn't anyone with the wealth to pull it off, and two, the external entity would be SOL when the US repealed/amended the laws to retaliate. So not only did that money pour money into getting the patent, it's money is now gone forever.
Unfortunately, unless some serious changes are on the way I don't see PayPal sticking around. Anyways dotcoms were never dead, the wheat got separated from the chaff is all.
It's the medium. I'm certainly glad it was a joke, believe me if I'd have heard it in person I'd have loved it.
HEHE mod this guy up, that's a good argument ad absurdium, comparing murder to copying games. Hehe, not to mention that most people use the cable to write their own software for it or d/l other peoples free creations.... oh the parent wasn't kidding was he.
That's funny, I've owned a cable for months, never copied a single game, that's not why I bought it. Hacking the DC is why I bought it, because it's fun and my skills get that much better playing with various architectures.
Disclaimer: I have no idea what the article is about or whether the serial cable does indeed have a valid legal use or not. I just get annoyed by all the whiners on Slashdot who bitch and moan about their "rights" to other peoples creations
Then don't post bullshit rhetoric. The primary use for that cable is for people who want to use the DC as a medium for their own creations. Which they have EVERY right to do since it's their DC. Has Sega made the cable, or produced enough broadband adapters we'd be using those instead. There is a huge difference between reverse engineering and steeling mp3's, don't even try to lump them into the same category.
Interesting but completely impractical. With the wide variety of machines and architectures out there everyone would get a different "price". But still interesting.
I remember that bit from Plato, but we're talking about two different things here. It is the vocalization of displeasure (or interest in other topics) that is the lifeblood of a topic. If a topic got little or no posts or viewings the editors would probably not be as willing to post it. I probably worded my previous post to far to the extreme, silence can of course imply assent, but not, I feel, in this case. Silence in respose to a direct query is more likely to imply assent (or guilt) but here the silence is ignoring the worthless topics, hopefully killing them.
That's not always true, in fact that's so rarely true that it has no basis in reality whatsoever. Especially not in a discussion forum. Especially not on
Come on, taking on the role of a mentally-retarded person has been the cheesy cliche thing to do for years in Hollywood. Actors pray for that role because it ALWAYS seems to bring critical acclaim. "A Beatiful Mind" I can deal with, even if it is sensationalized, at least it's about a real mathematician.
Nope, I'm sure the that the recipients of the cash for all those banner hits are thrilled that Katz inspires mini-Katz flames everytime he posts something. :) I definitley find it amusing, if the Katz haters didn't want him around, (ignoring the obvious filter him) they wouldn't post at all, if he wasn't drawing a single comment he'd probably get the ax. Personally I like to see his psuedo-intellectual, pompous, bullshit. It just reminds me how lucky I am to be intelligent. ;)
See there's my problem with the whole thing, I'm pretty certain that they CANNOT get a warrant. So basically what I'm hearing they're basically using scare tactics. Does anyone know whether or not any legal action has resulted from threats from the BSA? Every once and awhile I hear the commercials on the radio I'm sure others have heard them. Thinly veiled threats as if their on a mission from God to root out piracy. My company doesn't use any pirated software, though I half wish I could start my own company, phone in a tip to the BSA and tell them to fuck off back to Salem when they threaten me.
...I've never quite understood why the BSA has any power, I'm not sure why companies don't tell them to go fuck off and take their McCarthy hunt elsewhere.
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Don't mod me down cuz you don't get it, of course if you are not amused mod away.
Heh, I got rid of my subscription about that time it started to really go downhill shortly after that. While we're speaking of Wired porn, there was also the naked angel on one of the opening pages of another issue around that time as well.
I guess that depends on what you mean by hackers. I was exploring the internet when it was still young, learning programming from the more experienced and usenet, seeing what I could find out there. Granted my computer wasn't in my bedroom, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who was out there learning and exploring.
Actually early Wired was really good, that and Mondo2000 were great when they first came out.