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13 Nominations to Rule Them All
PatSmarty was among the onslaught of people who noted that the Oscar Nominations have
been announced and that FotR has 13 of them. Beautiful Mind
and Moulin Rouge also in there too.
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I always stay on top of Slashdot so that not a single Oscar nomination passes me by. Does anyone know how Snow Dogs is doing in the Oscar race?
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On one hand, I really want FOTR to do well, but on the other, I'm afraid that the success of FOTR will change the editing/special effects process of TT and ROTK...
Still, it's a wonderful day indeed when *anything* by Tokein is nominated for an Academy Award.
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Cases in point: "I am Sam" and "A Beautiful Mind". I would have included "Moulin Rouge" but Kidman's character didn't last that long.
It's wonderful of course that LOTR has so many nods, but it was expected.. What I wasn't expecting is how many nominations Moulin Rouge received. I personally find that fantastic. It's definitely a love/hate movie, but dude, few movies achieve its level of artistry.
Though, I think A Beautiful Mind should have gotten an effects nomination, since it takes damn near wizardry to make *math* look cool.
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In 1982, E.T. was nominated for 9 Oscars, including Best Picture, but it won just one, for Best Visual Effects.
Being nominated is fine and such, but the real test will be on oscar night.
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What percentage of these films were released in the past 3-4 months? What percentage in the first 3-4 months?
"Besides Crowe, who stars as Nash in ``A Beautiful Mind,'' the best actor nominees were Sean Penn as a retarded father seeking custody of his daughter in ``I Am Sam''; Will Smith as boxer Muhammad Ali in ``Ali''; Denzel Washington as a rakish bad cop in ``Training Day''; and Tom Wilkinson as a vigilante father in ``In the Bedroom.''
A Beautiful Mind: released 13 December 2001
I am Sam: released: 28 December 2001
Ali: released 25 December 2001
Training Day: released 5 October 2001
In the Bedroom: released 19 January 2001
Moulin Rouge: released 16 May 2001
Proof that Americans can't remember what happened in the entertainment industry for very long.
Screw the oscars. I don't care what a bunch of people have to say about movies. I don't need their approval for a movie to touch me, make me laugh, angry, etc. I am quite capable of doing that myself. Besides, it's all about the Benjamins anyway. Make a ton of money at the box-office? Your in! Popularity contests is all they are. Ok, little flamebait rant for you this morning...
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What the heck has happened to /.
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Now we're getting stories on Oscar NOMINATIONS!
If I want this pap I can visit CNN or any other news outlet.
Meanwhile real news like Google's Linux based search engine appliance passes without even a mention.
It's time for
Forrest Gump
Rain Man
the list goes on and on
Im sorry but it doesnt take a genuis TO ACT RETARDED
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Why are most of the leading men portraying ... uh, dammaged characters. Besides Ali (who later in real life suffers problems) these seem to all be retarded/schitzo/rakish/problematic characters somehow.
Hollywood loves problematic characters, hates problematic people.
There is nothing so silly as other peoples traditions, and nothing so sacred as our own.
I guess I didn't pay enough attention to the previews when it came out. I thought it would be a musical with some original music. Most of it was just pop songs scored differently. bleh. Can't believe how long it was either. I had to stop myself from laughing because my finance was enjoying it and I knew if I wanted to have any hope of sex that night that I'd have to enjoy the movie too. ;)
They just had Jennifer Connelly on the Today show talking about her nomination. yum yum. She's been intelligent eye-candy in enough movies, it's about time she was nominated.
Of course you know LOTR won't win Best Picture. It doesn't have any mentally handicapped people or crazy people in it (unless you count Saruman? Maybe they should have promoted it as "Boromir: One mans journey through madness" or "The Dark Lord: He saw the world differently")
"HI THIS IS BOROMIR. GIVE ME THE RING"
"I think that's a little too enthusiastic Boromir"
"For a successful technology, honesty must take precedence over public relations for nature cannot be fooled." -Feynman
In Sean Penn's case, he wasn't even acting.
best picture never goes to the good versus evil movie.
Too many political agendas amongst the hollywood leftists.
Those bastards at the MPAA want to destroy your civil rights! If they have their way, we will all be living in an Orwellian nightmare! The Slashdot community should fight them! Boycott! Boycott!
2 seconds later....
OOHH! Academy Awards? Cool! LOTR RULEZ! I saw it 34 times and gladly gave the MPAA hundreds of dollars! HOORAY FOR THE MPAA!
On the contrary, It takes a very good actor to act retarded in a believable fashion
"We were half way to Rivendell when the drugs began to take hold."
-- Hunter S. Tolkien
This applies to everything, not just movies. As an engineering student I think this is really important...if nobody ever deviated from the norm, nothing would ever get accomplished.
*cough* Forrest Gump *cough*
Connelly in Beautiful Mind was just absolutely... well, beautiful!
Probably this gang of \. weenies wouldn't recognize a truly great film if they saw one but if they did they would realize that Moulin Rouge makes LotR look like Star Trek V effects-wise. The effects were cleaner and more natural and more impressive all-around, and the music was many times better. Hugo Weaving is likeable and all but the man can't act - he's simply no match for his fellow Aussie Nicole. Reviewers from Ebert to the NYT to the Washington Post have unanimously concurred that Moulin Rouge has singlehandedly revived the musical film while LotR is simply another tedious entry in a tedious genre. What kind of film drags on for three hours with no payoff at the end?
Fact: Moulin Rouge is better than LotR
how many nominations is this movie avalible for, total? 15? 20? Have any other movies ever done this before? I think "Titanic" had 7...
13 seems like alot, but it doesn't mean anything without somthing to compare it to.
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Come on, taking on the role of a mentally-retarded person has been the cheesy cliche thing to do for years in Hollywood. Actors pray for that role because it ALWAYS seems to bring critical acclaim. "A Beatiful Mind" I can deal with, even if it is sensationalized, at least it's about a real mathematician.
I'm the big fish in the big pond bitch.
I forget the exact numbers but something like 15 of the last 20 Best Actor winners have played characters with mental illness or physical handicap. Shine, As Good As it Gets, My Left Foot, on and on.
What is music when you despise all sound?
This year is the first year for the Animated Feature Oscar, and 3 films made the cut from the several that were put forward: Shrek, Monsters Inc, and Jimmy Neutron...surprisingly, all 3 are CG films, despite a few traditionally animated films that were still in the submission pool. Shrek also got a nod for Best Adapted Screenplay.
"Pinky, you've left the lens cap of your mind on again." - P&TB
"I can see my house from here!" - ST:
Not really. Most actors ARE retarded. Mental illness is Oscar worthy because Hollywood is comprised of people with psychological disorders.
IAAA (I am an actor), and I can tell you from experience that playing a character with a mental illness is a very challenging role to pull off convincingly. It is not just about "acting retarded" as another reply to this post stated, but rather it is about trying to understand a mental state that you have never experienced directly and then being able to convincingly portray it to an audience in such a way that they can really believe the character is real. I haven't yet had the chance to see "I am Sam" or "A Beautiful Mind" yet, but I don't doubt for a minute that Sean Penn and Russell Crowe deserve their nominations.
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This is a movie that I didn't think I'd like. I rented it one day when I was bored and liked it so much that I drove out to the store as soon as I was done watching it and bought it.
I'd be surprised if this movie wins best picture but I hope that it wins for film editing and cinematography. If you you have ever been involved in filming and/or editing you can see how this movie is just a work of art.
All this talk about LOTR and no mention of Shrek.
Personally, I can't stand most Hollywood films, so I haven't seen A Beautiful Mind, but you might check out Pi, another film that makes math look cool. The direction is aggressive and extremely indie, but it's worth checking out.
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Okay:
1. Slashdot discusses new search appliance
2. Lord of the Rings has been nominated for 13 academy awards, tied for 2nd all time. Not only is it a movie, but a series of novels that's just a bit popular with the computer crowd.
A: None. The Universe spins the bulb, and the Zen master merely stays out of the way.
FotR? Ford of the Rings? :) (yes, I know what it really means).
At first I got a bit confused, since "Fotr" is how most ravers refer to one of the best DJs. Well, you should know which one!
Movie studios hold the releases of all of their "Oscar hopefuls" till late December releases. So it's no surprise that most of the movies that get nominated were released in the last month or two of the year.
(By the way, the dates you mentioned *must* be wrong or some of them wouldn't be eligible for Oscars. There must be some sort of release before Jan. 1 for them to be eligible.)
My it's because it has already been mentioned. It *is* news for nerds because a great many nerds obviously have read the books and seen the movie. Otherwise why would so many people submit the story. Don't wanna read this kind of story? You can filter it out on your user page.
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Why in the hell would Lord of the Rings get nominated for best picture???? If it wins, it will be up there with Schindler's List, Amadeus, and Gandhi. What the hell happened? Now we have drivel like Gladiator and Titanic getting best picture???? If the standards were this low before we would be seeing Encino Man and Hercules In New York up for best picture. So next year we can expect to see Crossroads nominated for best picture?
...it's about "Lord of the Rings" getting so many nominations. For a geek-favorite fantasy adventure to get so much attention from the Hollywood elite -- of course that's newsworthy.
This is slashdot, for Pete's sake; they haven't run an article on it TODAY, have they?
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I appreciate the movie & books being of interest, but this story is about the number of nominations for eligibility to win a little gold statue.
(nominated for best foreign language picture)
Elling is about a guy from an asylum who has just moved into his own apartement.
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Loved both LOTR and Moulin Rouge, but...
Gandalf( or however it's spelled) for best supporting actor? Enjoyed the performance, for sure, but fine acting? Maybe a bit of spell somewhere.
Nicole was a joy to watch in Moulin Rouge, but not because of her acting. She wasn't bad, but shouldn't it take more than that?
If you want to check out the movies that have had the most Oscar nominations, check out this list for summaries by film.
;)
The nominations record is held by Titanic and All About Eve (1950) at 14, and the most wins award is shared between Titanic and Ben Hur (1959, 12 nominations) at 11. Titanic is the only of these three to have won Best Picture. It's kindy funny that of 12 nominations for Ben Hur, the only it didn't win was Best Picture. Damn, what's it take?
I'm not sure, but I'd also imagine there are more categories now than in 1950, so those numbers might not be all *that* meaningful.
It's almost a law. Playing an ugly, retarded, disabled, or otherwise unattractive/marred character almost guarantees the actor/actress an Oscar nomination. Oh, look, she has dirt on her face, how brave, how innovative, how talented!
I had to stop myself from laughing because my finance was enjoying it and I knew if I wanted to have any hope of sex that night that I'd have to enjoy the movie too.
Tell your finace you're not watching that crap like a man. She might actually begin to respect you. BTW, I'm married & that's what I do.
From the artical:
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"the best actor nominees were Sean Penn as a retarded father " "nominated two blacks for best actor."
The writer will no doubt be picking up an award for being so very politically correct
BEST PICTURE:
Shouldn't. It's a good film but not the best of the year. It's not a complete, self-contained story, and that usually counts for a lot.
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR: Ian McKellen
Shouldn't. It's a token nomination: Ian McKellan practically did nothing that was worthy of winning an award. He brings the same class to LOTR that Guinness brought to Star Wars, but his largely-ignored work in other films is so far superior it's almost laughable. Plus, Gandalf's an easy character to play.
BEST DIRECTOR: Peter Jackson
Won't, but should. His work in showing characters of disproportionate size in the same shots is hugely underrated. It takes talent to fit that as seamlessly into a movie as Jackson did.
ART DIRECTION:
Would any other year, but might lose to Moulin Rouge.
CINEMATOGRAPHY:
Should. Had too much nice stuff to look at.
COSTUME DESIGN:
Shouldn't. Fantasy adventure is pretty easy to make neat-looking costumes for.
FILM EDITING:
Shouldn't. LOTR wasn't as clean in some areas as it could have been.
MAKEUP:
Should. The beasties were great.
MUSIC (SCORE):
Dunno. They all sound the same to me. There hasn't been a really fantastic score since The Thin Red Line.
MUSIC (SONG):
If this is for the Enya song, shouldn't. It contributed nothing to the movie except once the credits were rolling. This award is custom made to silly Disney or Pixar movies.
SOUND:
Should? Didn't see Black Hawk Down or Pearl Harbour in one of those arena theatres. Still bombs and machinery crashes are easy -- Jackson had to incorporate unusual sound effects (eg: the Balrog).
VISUAL EFFECTS:
Shouldn't, but probably will. For all the good stuff, there was some sloppy CGI work at times in that film.
WRITING (ADAPTED SCREENPLAY):
Shouldn't. Much of what made the book great was edited down, and the dialogue was run of the mill push-the-plot-forward stuff (except when it was oh-looky-we're-talking-about-THE-THEME stuff).
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First of all, the Google search appliance was mentioned yesterday right here.
Second, this is a story on Oscar nominations for a specific film that does interest many geeks. FOTR has been covered by Slashdot for quite awhile now.
Don't read it if you don't care about.
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I think that Peter Jackson is a shoe-in, first of all. It's been pointed out that LotR is one of the world's foremost genre-establishing tales, and its been mis adapted for screen/animation enough times that this attempt was viewed with great trepidation. Jackson is obviously the man with the vision that turned the epic into an excellent on-screen adaptation. Trying to envision ways to portray/convey all that he did is difficult.
With 13 nominations -- well, best picture is the one to bring them all, and in the Dorothy Chandler pavilion, bind them. I have to say, I'd have seen LotR regardless of what anyone said about it, but I had to go in hoping for the best but fearing the worst, because fantasy never has done well on the big screen. And of course, I was stunned by the quality. At some point, best picture might be awarded for the vision of bringing something with variety in. I'm a little concerned that with last year's gladiator win, they may want to award BP to something less 'epic' and more quirky, like 99's American Beauty. Still, popular movies clearly do better in the BP race, partially because the whole academy gets to vote on it, I'm sure, whereas only one's peers vote for related oscars (ie, directors vote for directors).
Anyhow, I think LotR may win simply because it may have the power to create an onscreen genre just as it did in print -- and what a marvelous accomplishment. But if the sequels perform as well, then they'll have essentially grossed $900M on a $300M budget -- that would basically be in line with Titanic ($600M back domestically on a >$200M movie), and hollywood loves a winner. Also, those kind of numbers are the sort that might bring other fantasy novels to the screen. That would be a paramount accomplishment.
Sorta makes me wonder whether too any people's sense of self-worth gets bolstered somehow if LOTR wins an Oscar or two - i.e. if you all like LOTR you must all like me....
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Sorry, to continue, it's just a way for Hollywood to pat itself on the back. See how enlightened we are, we're not just skin-deep bimbos, it's all about making a difference. Rich fucks always think they're better than everyone else, and look down on everyone, especially when it comes down to morality. Casting couch notwithstanding.
He should have had a nomination! It's just soo cool to see mr. Agent Smith himself as Elrond! I never knew Elrond was that mean! :-)
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You just expect him to break out at any time "I hate this place. This zoo, this
What? not varied acting?...? Hey, I like it so why shouldn't it deserve a nomination????
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I noticed that Richard Linkater's "Waking Life" didn't snag an animated feature nomination, even though as a film it kicks the snot out of the other nominees. But of course, as Oscar nominations and voting are entirely studio-driven, I'm not surprised. (An FYI for those who believe Oscar votes are somehow objective - thoe voters are members of the academy, most of whom are associated with a particular studio or other, and as a result large blocs of essentially "party-line" votes are controlled by the major studios/distribution houses. This is how a movie like "Gladiator" wins "Best Picture".
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Memento got nominated for best original screenplay ("written directly for the screen"), even though it's based on a short story.
Even though it wasn't a very popular movie, I am really surprised Jim Carrey didn't get nominated for his work in the Majestic. I thought this year the Academy would throw him a bone after the whole "Man on the Moon" controversy.
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Mental illness doesn't necessarily mean retarded.
Hello Clarice.
"I Am Sam" is embarassingly bad... it's a desperate plea for an Oscar that has inexplicably been heeded. Heaven help us if he wins because we can expect a boatload of crappy "I Am Retarded" flicks from aspiring "Actors" within a year.
hehe does it hurt my precious
Of those, I reckon it'll go like this:
1. Best Picture - No way. The Academy is a bunch of rich old farts that wouldn't know high fantasy if it leaped up and bit them in their collective white asses. It'll go to "A Beautiful Mind", because the Academy loves actors portraying mentally ill people.
2. Supporting Actor - McKellen takes it. Ben Kingsley's already got his Oscar (IIRC, for Gandhi), and c'mon, not even the Academy would be so twisted as to give it to Jon Voight.
3. Director - Toss up. Since Jackson's a semi-unknown who isn't American, they'll either give it to him by a landslide or ignore him totally. I reckon it'll go to Jackson, though.
4. Screenplay - They'll say "No originality in LoTR" or something and give it to A Beautiful Mind.
5. Art direction - Moulin Rouge. Deserves it, too.
6. Cinematography - A nice safe category that no-one gives a fuck about, so it'll go to LoTR.
7. Sound - Who cares? But it'll probably go to Pearl Harbor or other such dreck.
8. Original score - God knows, but I sure hope it ain't A.I.
9. Pearl Harbor or Vanilla Sky.
10. Costume - Moulin Rouge, again deservedly.
11. Film editing - Black Hawk Down, because it's Ridley Scott, and we can't be unpatriotic or anything, can we? Fuck Ridley Scott.
12. Makeup - LoTR, definitely, just for the Uruk-Hai.
13. Visual effects - LoTR, again because no-one cares about this category.
This review of "I am Sam" questions whether it is ethical to roll your eyes, laugh in a childlike way, slur your speech and call it a performance?. Another review notes that , the performance - showy and contrived - is all too obviously meant to get Oscar's attention.
I have avoided the film.
Just this morning on Bob and Tom, the guys, Chick and Christy all talked about how much they disliked it - especially Christy. The biggest beef most people have is that the period doesn't match the music that was chosen. This was obviously a deliberate choice, but it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
Many people have described the move as an embarrassing music video.
This all makes me wonder how it will fare with the Oscar judges. Will they represent the people, or an industry bias toward "something different". I guess we'll see.
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For the same reason Bush (i don't want to call him president) gets nominated for a Nobel ! And which one ?!? Well I leave that as an excersice to the reader ...
Why the hell is it nominated for best editing? I was annoyed at the sloppy editing throughout the whole film. This just seems like the hypemachine got to the academy. Sure, it was a good film, but not that great.
Stop including the words "to rule them all" in LOTR related stories CmdrTaco, you fat stupid fuck.
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13 nominations!! Wow can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of ... oh never mind.
I first heard about LOTR being made into a film about 2 years ago. I'd never read the books, but had always wanted to. I quickly bought the books, and read them even quicker. I fell in love with the story. I watched the film's developement very closely over those 2 years, reading Tolkien Online and TheOneRing.net almost daily. I bought the soundtrack (excellent!) and a couple books. I even bought some miniatures. I reread the books a few months before the film was released, and enjoyed them even more the second time. I caught a showing of the film on it's first day out, and have been back for a total of 7 times (so far!).
Now, if you had told me 2 years ago that LOTR would be nominated for 13 Oscars, I would have said you were nuts. This is truly an amazing accomplishment, and LOTR deserves every one of them.
What? No nominations for Mulholland Drive? That hot lesbian sex surely must deserve an oscar! :)
I'm not so sure I agree. I think there's serious problems with the Oscars, the short memory span of which is only one problem.
I'm actually surprised to see LOTR get so many nominations. I'm glad, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it lose best picture to something I consider to be an inferior movie, such as A Beautiful Mind.
And what happened to movies such as Momento or Mulholland Drive? They were critically acclaimed more so than many of the movies in the list (how many best picture awards did Mulholland Drive recieve from other societies?), and haven't got half the attention of them from the academy. Worse films? Nonsense. It's really more so that they were released earlier in the year.
I've been really disappointed in the best picture awards lately. Gladiator? PLEASE. Doesn't hold a candle to Crouching Tiger or many of the other films released that year. Shakespeare in love? Whatever.
There's other massive problems with the Oscars too. Consider, for example, this study reported in Salon. Basically, it argues that you can reliably predict best actress from younger age, best actor from older age. Try it this year! It works beautifully.
The bottom line is that the Oscars have become a popularity game of sorts, where you have to play by their rules. If you don't, even if you have the best movie in a decade, you'll get screwed. I've given up on them for the most part 'cause they're a joke. Try the Globes or NYFC awards or something of that sort. They make more sense to me.
OK, I know I'm in the minority, but I loved A.I.: Artificial Intelligence. If you hated anything about it, or hated the ending, or whatever, I encourage you to see it again once the DVD comes out and look past the obvious. A great site devoted to analysis of the film is Mysteries of AI. There's a ton of information on the site (although, he doesn't have it totally done at this point).
Re: if you hated the ending... ask yourself if Monica was real or not.
As for the Oscars, I was really disappointed with Osmont not getting a best actor nomination. I thought he was fantastic. I didn't really expect a best picture nomination, because it was so dark and so many people didn't get it ("what's with the aliens??" ARGH!)
I think this is one of those pictures that will only be appreciated in 20 years after people start taking it apart.
Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
I'm happy about FotR but I'm even more delighted that the most overrated film in recent history, Black Hawk Down, was shut out of best picture, even if Ridley Scott did get a nod.
Mods?? Why was this modded down?
For crying out loud, if *anything* was on-topic, it's this.
(And given the egregious amount of typos, spelling mistakes, and grammar errors the Editors make, I wondered as well...)
I understand that Moulin Rouge was a love/hate film, but how can something like that be nominated for best picture? I think everyone kind of agrees that LOTR was good. I did, and I am not a fan. (easy, easy, it's OK). But MR? What a stinker. My fiancee, who is a French teacher, and I were both looking forward to it. We were the only ones in the theatre, and we were laughing out loud at how utterly stupid the movie was. We only lasted a little over half way through it. We kept thinking - the stupidity will stop, and they will get to the movie - but it didn't. There were many things I didn't like about LOTR too (like the Titanic-esque 3 minute pans of the scenery with little CG people walking along) but overall it was a good movie. Too many people hated MR for it to be best picture. At best, it was a Barney show on acid.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
I as well was also an English major too in university additionally.
...I think I'll have second breakfast. Then a couple of lunches, supper, dinner, late night snack...
Why is there a copy of this posted on every LOTR article? I admit it was funny in 1995, but this is getting -1 redundant.
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Better article at here at zap2it.
Putting the fellows into fellowship, nudge, nudge
No no no...
Some people made some media fuss and said that Bush should get the peace prize IF AND ONLY IF he didn't bomb Afganisthan. I don't remember if those people really did have anything to say in the matter (like if anyone of them sat in the Nobel comittee) but that hardly matters now anyway as Bush did bomb Afganisthan and will never be within reach of the peace prize. (I don't think people would have liked bargaining with the peace prize anyway so I don't think he really ever had a chance)
what a fuckwit
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Wait a sec,.. and this is news for nerds how? Stuff that matters? To who?,.. certainly not me.
You're right, but the reason for this practice is the short memory span of the Oscar voters.
I have admittedly heard very little about this particular film, and will refrain from judgement until I've seen it. I know that Sean Penn is capable of a better performance, and hope that he hasn't sold out (either out of laziness or the desire for a quick profit or easy Oscar). I think these reviews, though, help to make my point that truly playing a mentally handicapped or disturbed character is very difficult to do convincingly. Simply acting stupid gives a performance like what is described by the above reviews (whether or not they are acurately describing Sean Penn's performance in "I am Sam").
"If English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for everyone else."
But Lynch is the "chosen loser," there just to make it look as though the Academy would--in theory, someday, maybe, but probably not--consder giving an award to one of the big-g Great Directors, rather than to a popular favorite/studio system whore--just like he was the "chosen loser" in the years he made Elephant Man and Blue Velvet (and, I think, Wild at Heart, but I don't remember).
Robert Altman is nominated for a similar reason. He should have won about thirty years ago for Nashville, but they blew it, like they blew it with Scorcese (and gave him the nod for Goodfellas, which is so much worse than Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Mean Streets, or King of Comedy, that it might as well have been made by George Lucas) and Kubrick and Hitchcock and
Your mouth is like Columbus Day.
We hate the MPAA,
except when we are discussing movies about
Hobbits, Jedi Knights, or Time-Traveling Robots.
Any time you have a movie where the main character tries to drill into his own head...ugh.
I don't remember much math from it, just some guy going crazy.
One film to rule them all;
One film to find them;
One film to bring them all;
And in the darkness bind them.
Kind of like "The Net" for math....
And then you threw them away and replaced them with much more pithy, accurate words. Thank you!
I saw the trailer for "The Majestic" and all I could do was turn to my friend and say "Ooh, look at me! I'm Jim Carrey, I want an Oscar!"
Darabont was trying to make a Capra movie, but forgot the soul.
It doesn't mean much now, it's built for the future.
I thought it was technically the best F/X movie of the year, even though its story was somewhat lame. A recent thread here said the FF animation house is now gone.
I would agree with Wateshay in that playing someone handicapped - even someone who is temporarily handicapped (by drunkeness say) is a difficult thing to do. You have to maintain consistency throughout AND (in the case of drunkeness of some mental afflictions where the sufferer would be considered "High Function") you have to play it as though you were trying to be "normal"/sober. Don't real life drunks spend most of their time trying to show how undrunk/sober they are? A badly acted drunk ignores that human tendancy and falls down and loudly hiccups alot. An individual human with some social awareness will try to minimize their differences (usually - unless they are an COBOL coder ;-) this ongoing attempt is what the actor has to capture.
IMO Dustin Hoffman did not do this (as the character did not call for it) in "Rainman" as the character was not afflicted with a condition that would/could allow him to care how he was percieved by others. He did have to be meticulously consistent throughout though, which I thought he did - though whether that merits an Oscar is another question.
For an interesting take on a handicapped person who is definitely "not nice" check out "Proof" from 1991. Hugo Weaving (Agent Smith from "The Matrix") plays a blind person who believes that no one is telling him the truth, he tries to document this belief with photographs. Russel Crowe plays a friend in one of his early film appearances. Hit the imdb for more info. ( www.imdb.com generally or specifically (for "Proof")):
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0102721 )
All that being said - Hollywood will continue to crank out manipulative junk because we will go and see it. The Oscars are set up to advertise the manipulative junk that Hollywood produces. No one wants to see movies about normal people in normal situations - so it should be no surprise that this sort of thing is getting and will continue to get nominations.
In this light I am more impressed by an actor who is willing to switch from Hero to Villain rather than "normal" to "non-normal"(Ben Kingsley from Ghandi to his role in "Sexy Beast" which incidentally has gotten him an Oscar nomination - though I have to agree that it is not a "normal" person he is playing!)
Some actors either refuse to play a villain, or their agents won't allow it (or they never get a good villain script... I'd like to see Tom Hanks play a villain, but I doubt that the "star machine" will let him now. If Ronald Regean had played the right villain (and done it well) he might never have made it to the oval office.
For an interesting take on the whole "Oscar" thing dig up a copy of Danny Peary's book "The Alternate Oscars" which details year by year from 1927 to 1992 or so (and is blessed somewhat with hindsight) the award winners and what didn't win or didn't even get nominated and should have (IHO). He manages to remove much of the hype and politics of the day (substituting his own of course - but still a fresh and interesting view). The book is OOP, but a good library can get you a copy on interlibrary loan.
In the end though the only Oscars really worth checking out are what I think of as the "foundation" ones for Cinematography, and best adapted, and original screenplays. Without those things every Oscar that follows would be much much more difficult. Those awards also tend to have a bit less hype, and thus a bit less political crap, attached to them.
Why does the Academy persist in having a "Foreign Language Film" category? In the earlier part of this century when filmmaking was almost exclusively being done by Americans (Hollywood), it made sense to honor a film made by "someone else." No longer does this hold. Lord of the Rings was filmed by an international cast in a foreign country. Harry Potter is a UK film by a UK author. This page says that "This is the thirty-second Academy Award nomination (including nine wins) for France." Why do we persist in having a category for films that aren't in English? Is it the subtitles?
Film is able to cross cultural and lingual boundaries. Why must the Academy persist in maintaing the separation of "English" and "Other" on awards night? Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, which had numerous nominations in 2001 started the trend of recognizing films as films, regardless of language and cast/crew nationality.
I think the Academy honors "Foreign Language Films" because of these false beliefs:
"One touch of Darwin makes the whole world kin." George Bernard Shaw
Also could you please explain why Bush would be such a bad nominee, but Yasser Arafat, leader of one of the largest terrorist organizations in the world is a good candidate?
Si vis pacem, para bellum
The only thing more annoying than a Libertarian is an (un|mis)informed Libertarian
(First of all, I remember only smatterings of the books, so I am not a true fanboy, so this si a uniquely outside approach from most /.ers.)
I know I risk my karma saying this, and it might offend a few fans, but IMHO there are a few categories that no one should have let LOTR into....
Editing- Editing is often a masterful way to knock out useless dialogue that doesn't work to propel the plot forward. It is also important for action sequences. The example of "The Strider Love scene" could have been put in another movie, and is useless to the current plot. It shows Jackson's flaws with the dailies. When the director knows when to throw somehting away to propel the film forward... LOTR had a lot of falling flat moments from a first-time viewers point of view, and a lot of confusion best left out. THIS WILL PROBABLY WIN IF NO ONE GOES TO SEE MEMENTO AT THE SCREENINGS. OR LIKES BIG SWORDS.
Cinematography- I subscribe to American Cinematographer, would love to be one. I work as a professional photographer. So I am a little biased in this one. Lighting is the real secret of a good DP. Good photography comes from good, motivated lighting designs. I didn't see that much artistry in the lighting... the scenery was excellent. However, getting a well composed, well exposed shot in a gorgeous, lush background hardly makes you an artist. Don't confuse the subject with the artist. That being said, Cinematography is really an art... and should be voted on by the all the DPs with Ridley Scott, David Fincher, The Steven, Sam Mendes, and Barry Sonnenfeld included. THIS WILL WIN THIS CATEGORY, BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE. Give it to Moulin. PLeeeease.
PICTURE AND DIRECTOR- They are often one in the same. But if he could have found a way around some of the dragging points with characters other than the Hobbits (personally I don't know how he could have done this, movies are designed almost exclusively around one hero/villain design), then it would definitely be his. BEAUTIFUL MIND OR PERHAPS BLACKHAWK BECAUSE OF THE STRONG STATEMENTS IT MAKES.
as I write this: +3 (funny).
It should be +5 (sad but true).
Stupid sexy Flanders.
Who does Billy Bob Thornton have to sleep with to get a Best Actor Nomination?
Don
I don't need their approval for a movie to touch me... I am quite capable of doing that myself.
Didn't your mother ever tell you you'll go blind if you keep doing that.
Amelie is up for Best Foreign Film, as well as Cinematography, Art Direction, and Original Screenplay.
I absolutely adored Amelie, and I wholeheartedly encourage everyone to go and see it if it is still playing in a theater near you. Like "Life Is Beautiful", it is thoroughly enchanting. If you are a confirmed cynic, without a skosh of whimsy in your heart, don't bother, but otherwise, this is a fabulouse flick.
In my opinion:
The Oscars were made for the sole purpose of Hollywood to award itself. Until recently, the
foreign film category has managed to keep foreign
films that were BETTER than all of the American films
nominated for "Best Picture" from getting proper
recognition.
"You spoony bard!" -Tellah
When possible they release films that they think will get Oscar nods so that they're still in theaters when the nominations are published (second best is to bring it out again for another crack). What kind of proof about national character is that?
I can see the wheels spinning in the minds of the voting members of the Academy. "Ian wasn't that great compared to Ashton Kutcher in Dude Where's My Car, but Gandalf is dead. He won't be back for the next two movies, so this is our only chance. Ashton will have to wait until the sequel, Dude, Where's My Career? to claim his long deserved title."
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Parent comment was knowingly making that joke. =)
The movie is gonna be released soon in France.
being a math/physics student, I don't mind having a mathematician featured in a movie :
but is this one better than "Will Hunting" : I hated the cliché of the mathematical genius that was above any other mathematician in the world, because that's simply not true, and that's not the way math research goes...
Thanks for letting me now if I should spend 8 euros on this.
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers." Bill Gates,
LoTR was a decent movie, and this isn't meant as an attack on it in any way, but I think the fact that it got 13 nominations is more indicative of the general crappiness of the movies that came out in the past year than LoTR being super-spectacular-wonderful-hooray. As someone who hasn't read any of the books on which the film is based, I found the movie engaging yet boring. Like X-Men, it seems to be just laying the groundwork for the second installment. This will probably make for a good series, but I don't think it makes for a great standalone film.
A more interesting competition this year will be the Razzies, highlighting some of the worst drivel imaginable, and reinforcing my theory that 2001 was a terrible year for movies (Pearl Harbor, Freddy got Fingered, Glitter...).
rooooar
If you've ever seen DeNiro in Awakenings, you'll know what I mean.
No, Thursday's out. How about never - is never good for you?
I have had the most interesting time with this one - Halle is apparently quite disliked in the African-American community (have talked with four different black women about her, and most dislike her acting and regard her as very uneven at best - and these are filmies, so they have seen her other roles).
That said, I thought she did a good job in the movie, and she make take the award, more for who she is than for this exact movie.
Billy Bob Thornton did an excellent job in this movie - but he got too many nominations and awards, so he'll get nothing for his work here.
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--- Will in Seattle - What are you doing to fight the War?
what a surprise. It's a movie folks, not a lifestyle.
Sorry, I couldn't resist. It's actually a great film, and not just for dorks.
Actually, out of all the performances in AI, it is the snubbing of Jude Law that surprises me. I thought surely this performance would have garnered a Best Supporting Actor for him.
I didn't like the film, but I definitely felt that his performance in the role of Jiggolo Joe was exceptional.
Now, I'm biased here, cause one of the lobster consultants in In The Bedroom is a family friend from my childhood, when we owned French House Island in Maine (near Jonesport).
But, of the two, In The Bedroom is far the best, and Sissy Spacek deserves the award for her role here. This is definitely an amazing movie, and highly deserving of every award it gets.
Gosford Park was quite nice, but not deserving of an award. A fine movie, with a great cast, but none truly worked for it, lest it be the lady's maid who is truly the detective in this movie. Sad, really, as it a visually beautiful film. So don't be surprised if it's shut out of the awards contention, except for some minor award for technical reasons.
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--- Will in Seattle - What are you doing to fight the War?
What the fuck is a FOTR?
"Stratigraphically the origin of agriculture and thermonuclear destruction will appear essentially simultaneous" -- Lee
Well being broadcasted on local tv gives it enough credebility (sp?). Anyway, it would be ironic to give Bush and his buddy Blair the peace prize ... and the end of humanity as we know it.
:)
Mind my spelling, since I am a foreign student
Now, I've seen neither, so I'm just going by the buzz in the film fest community, and some early reactions when I was at Cannes (mostly Antibbes, Cannes is so much of a freak show, and the parties are deathly dull).
But, I would think that Moulin Rouge MUST get at least two awards, for music and dance if nothing else.
Vanilla Sky is sad - I saw the original Spanish movie it's based on, and Cruz did a better job there - my guess is that it will get one award, only because the Americanized remake sucked so bad, and it had SO much potential, but Americans won't see many subtitled films (except Amelie, which is by far the best movie of all of them).
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--- Will in Seattle - What are you doing to fight the War?
In the last 17-20 years (don't remember exact number), Every Best Picture But One Was Won By The Film With The Most Nominations.
In other words, FoTR is nearly a shoe-in for best picture.
Jack Valenti and the MPAA are to technology as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone
That's because it was laying the groundwork for the second and third installments... Sorry.
Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls ofstone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
He paused, and then said in a deep voice,
"This is the Master-Ring, the One Ring to rule them all.
This is the One Ring lost many years ago,
to the great weakening of its maker's power.
Now, he greatly desires to have it again,
- but he must NOT get it"
Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls ofstone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
He paused, and then said in a deep voice,
"This is the Master-Ring, the One Ring to rule them all.
This is the One Ring lost many years ago,
to the great weakening of its maker's power.
Now, he greatly desires to have it again,
- but he must NOT get it"
Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls ofstone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
He paused, and then said in a deep voice,
"This is the Master-Ring, the One Ring to rule them all.
This is the One Ring lost many years ago,
to the great weakening of its maker's power.
Now, he greatly desires to have it again,
- but he must NOT get it"
Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls ofstone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
He paused, and then said in a deep voice,
"This is the Master-Ring, the One Ring to rule them all.
This is the One Ring lost many years ago,
to the great weakening of its maker's power.
Now, he greatly desires to have it again,
- but he must NOT get it"
Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls ofstone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
He paused, and then said in a deep voice,
"This is the Master-Ring, the One Ring to rule them all.
This is the One Ring lost many years ago,
to the great weakening of its maker's power.
Now, he greatly desires to have it again,
- but he must NOT get it"
Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls ofstone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
He paused, and then said in a deep voice,
"This is the Master-Ring, the One Ring to rule them all.
This is the One Ring lost many years ago,
to the great weakening of its maker's power.
Now, he greatly desires to have it again,
- but he must NOT get it"
Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls ofstone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
He paused, and then said in a deep voice,
"This is the Master-Ring, the One Ring to rule them all.
This is the One Ring lost many years ago,
to the great weakening of its maker's power.
Now, he greatly desires to have it again,
- but he must NOT get it"
Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls ofstone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
He paused, and then said in a deep voice,
"This is the Master-Ring, the One Ring to rule them all.
This is the One Ring lost many years ago,
to the great weakening of its maker's power.
Now, he greatly desires to have it again,
- but he must NOT get it"
I sure as hell didn't...
All the people who wondered what the heck FotR was got modded down, probably by the editors to -1. That includes those that were more fearless and posted as a non AC.
Hey pinhead editors? Can't you take a joke? I don't know what FotR is, in fact, I haven't even seen LotR yet. Why is it OT to ask what FotR is, or at least funny to point out what we think is a typo?
Get Slashdot editors back to being editors. The modding of posts will take care of itself.
[Sheesh]!
I would give one oscar to the figure skating judge....and I would give them up in their ass for giving the gold to the Russians.
So fuckin stupid!
Three Rings for the Elven-gimps under the whip,
Seven for the Gaylords in their halls of fudge,
Nine for Mortal Puffs doomed to wank men,
One for the Dark GayLord on his dark boyfriend
In the Land of Shitstab where the Gayness lies.
One Ring to wank them all, One Ring to cum them,
One Ring to stab them all and in the darkness rape them
One Ring to wank them all, One Ring to cum them,
He paused, and then said in a deep voice,
"This is the Master-Knob, the One knob to wank them all.
This is the One knob lost many years ago,
to the great weakening of its master's power.
Now, he greatly desires to have it up the arse again,
- but he must NOT have it!"
Why recommend a book to a stranger just because you enjoyed it? You don't have a financial stake in the book, after all. Why tune into your local sports team when it is playing for the championship, especially if you haven't been doing so during the down times? For that matter, why post your pearls of social criticism to Slashdot? Surely by now you've given up on making the masses as enlightened as yourself.
The answer, I think, is that people are social animals. We like to share information, we like participate in a greater social whole, and we like having that greater whole validate our viewpoints. Fandom is just one facet of this.
Basing your self esteem entirely upon the the whim of the Academy, or upon the results of a game where surely chance plays a considerable part is clearly not a good idea. However, that's not what most people are doing. They're just participating in a pleasant diversion, a kind of heads-I-win-tails-you-lose bet. If "we" win, then I feel good for a few hours or days. If "we" lose, I have a few minutes of cathartic disappointment and move on to the rest of my daily life.
While I probably participate in fandom less than most people I know, I don't feel any contempt for it. I find it perfectly understandable and harmless. What I don't really have a good handle on is what the Germans call Schadenfreude -- the pleasure that comes from raining on somebody else's parade.
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While I'm happy to see that LOTR got so many nominations, the snub of Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within for Best Animated Film is disheartening. Square Pictures made a leap of faith and came up with one of the most interesting, visually stunning films of the last decade. While the fickle public avoided it and it seems critics had an axe to grind against the audacity of such compelling "synthespians", this was, in my opinion one of the finer films released last year. I am further upset by those films the Academy members chose instead. While those films are no doubt entertaining, FFTSW was a masterwork, a groundbreaking film. Square's Hawaii studio is folding, but I guess if you are going to go out, go out on top. For a studio that produced only one full length feature film, you would be hard pressed to create one as cool as the one they did. At least this film will live on in the fab 2-disc DVD set. Here's hoping history will be kinder to the film than the American movie going public, critics, and the Academy members were.
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I find it offensive that the rings thingy can even remotely be considered as the peer of A Beautiful Mind. The ring is just a long, boring tome of puerile fantasy, and minor one at that - there are thousands of fantasy works out there vastly better.
I hope it will only collect second-class awards.
doesn't mean that I'll stop breathing it...
-Built to Spill.
Is this a new category? I don't remember ever seeing it before.
Also, does anyone have any idea if this is a permanent category? I'm not sure if I like the idea - automatically takes animated films out of contention for best picture (hey, Beauty and the Beast COULD have won)
I am very disapointed not to see Amelie nominated for more of the big awards. It did get Art Direction, Cinematography, and Foreign Language (a fairly impresive list) but I felt like this was one of the best movies made in a long time, period.
Audrey Tautou was simply amazing, and I have yet to meet someone who didn't come out of the theater with a big smile on their face. This movie deserves the big nominations not only for being a beautiful film but for doing it without the usual trappings of a blockbuster.
While it seems that the AMC 14 in Century City was built for the sole purpose to show movies so they can make the Oscars (Black Hawk Down played there the middle of December) I think as long as it plays anywhere in a public theatre your ok. But, since most of the Academy lives in LA it might hurt your chances if you show your movie in Dayton, Ohio.
Hollow words will burn and hollow men will burn.
Anyway, both my girlfriend and I hated it, and she loves musicals (I'm more indifferent).
"The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than that of whether a submarine can swim" -EWD
"Memento" deserved much more than just editing and writing (original).
What a bunch of shortsighted gits.
Anybody who got that movie will undoubtably say that it's one of the best movie of the year. Yet Memento has only 2 nominations!
One:
Best picture
Three:
Actor in a supporting role
Directing
Writing (adapted screenplay)
Nine:
Art direction
Cinematography
Costume design
Film editing
Makeup
Music (score)
Music (song)
Sound
Visual effects
The big one, three major ones, and nine techncal. I guess the dwarves get no respect, just as in the books.
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Do ya feel happy-go-lucky, punk?
(Flame on!)
And what's all this about watching "mostly foregin [sic] films"? Are you saying that you avoid masterpieces like "Memento", just because it's from the same country that gave us dreck like "Slackers"? Or are you just saying that you don't pay much attention to American movies so you can sound more cool and urban?
This may come as a shock to you, but a lot of American-made films do very well at Cannes, because even the French can see that the US makes most of the best movies. It wasn't always the case, and it might not be the case a few years down the road, but at the moment it's true. We suck at soccer, at least let us have this!
Information wants to be anthropomorphized.
ALL of the films on that list except Caberet won Best Picture.
Just been listening to Peter Jackson talk about the nominations.. A point mentioned by him was the additional 30mins of footage for the DVD.. However no delivery date on that DVD.
Don't you mean the right source?
I think it's really funny that AI only got two nominations .. and they were givens: Score and Special Effects.
It's interesting to see Moulin Rouge and AI -- both equally controversial -- go entirely separate ways.
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Animated Feature Film
Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius
Monsters, Inc.
Shrek
anyone see something wrong here? what about Final Fantasy? i know it wasn't the block-buster movie of the year, but wasn't it just a little bit better than Jimmy Neutron?
Another review of the movie for you. One of Sean Penn as well.
Constitutionally Correct
The truth is the oscar voters probably didn't see a lot of the movies, they saw excerpts on video tapes the studios sent to them.
It's all about what one is looking for. The awards show that most reflects what I consider to be good movies, is, perhaps sadly, the MTV movie awards. The oscars is a mutual masterbation party where the predominently uninteresting people give strokes to other uninteresting people in return for strokes of their own, and a few interesting people get stokes to either legitimize the whole affair, or by accident. I like to see the deserving rewarded for their skill. But I am so consistantly disapointed by the Acadamy choices, it's hard to be even interested, let alone excited.
--Jimmy has fancy plans; and pants to match.
Thats Odd.
/. moderators arent the only people with crack pipes. :0
I checked the netire list looking for Memento, a personal favorite, and I onyl see one mentnion. Under best original script. I fnd this odd, since its adapted from a shrot story. FotR is nominated as an adapted script, so shouldnt memento _also_ be in that category? Maybe hte
In Soviet Russia you dant have to put up with these crappy jokes
I'm glad Training Day saw best actor nods. Yes, the film had problems, but the acting was a treat. See this movie if you missed it.
Come on, taking on the role of a mentally-retarded person has been the cheesy cliche thing to do for years in Hollywood. I think that Sam I Am got the nod because it took the huge risk of casting an actually mentally retarded person to play the roll of Sam.
Well they obviously have not read the book....after reading the books, the movie sucked large balls.
That or i was expecting too much, or a combination of the two
I agree 100%.
I mean, look at two roles in the last two decades that won Oscars for Best Actor in a Leading Role: Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man and Tom Hanks in Forrest Gump. Both with truly superior performances, though I liked Forrest Gump way better because through Gump's simple-mindedness we see he's a man of more insightful wisdom than almost everyone else that is supposed more intelligent than him. It is truly one of the very best movies of the 1990's.
It is still (IMHO) Tom Hanks' finest performance as an actor.
Indeed. I just got finished with the actual biography. I got into a conversation with a co-worker yesterday. I started listing scnes from the movie that were blatently wrong.
1) The scene with him giving the baby a bath. The truth is that Nash actively avoided both sons that he had. He was in in a mental institution when his wife gave birth, and left for Europe shortly after that.
2) Nash's acceptance speech for his Nobel prize. The truth was that he was divorced at the time.
3) His roommate. The truth was that Nash never seemed to suffer from visual halucienation.
4) The Nazi bomb idea.
5) Nash teaching today. Apparently he is in residence at Princeton's Institute for Advanced Study, but only teaches an occasional seminar.
6) Nash's work for the Department of Defense. Nash worked for RAND for a while as a researcher, but was apparently more involved in pure mathematical research and game theory than active code-breaking.
7) Princeton. The truth is that Nash did quite a bit of work at MIT, but the movie leads you to believe that Princeton was the only place he ever did anything.
8) Nash's recovery. The movie would have you believe that it was entirely Nash repressing the illness. In truth, it would seem that Nash has actually been in remission. As he says it, it seems like the volume of the ideas have been turned down, allowing him to concentrate on reality instead.
9) His idea for his equilibrium theory. Nash has stated that the idea came from thinking about nations trying to acheive what they want, not from a hot chick in a bar.
10) The scene with the pens in the faculty louge. Nothing ever happened like that.
I did not like the movie, both as a math/psych student and as a movie buff. Crowe definitely deserves for Best Actor, but little other than that.
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All I have to say is its a travesty that Shaolin Soccor (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0286112) received no nominations, not even in the foreign film category.
The reason why E.T.: The Extraterrestrial didn't win the Best Movie Oscar was the fact late in 1982 a movie came out that did match the type of movie AMPAS members really like: Gandhi.
Gandhi was both an epic and socially-conscious movie (both of which AMPAS members really like), and Ben Kingsley's performance as Mahatma Gandhi was really good (he definitely looked the part).
Also, the total overkill of marketing for E.T. really turned off too many AMPAS members, too.
Cinematogrophers vote for best Cinematography, [...]
IIRC, everyone votes for cinematography (or any other category). It's just the nominations that get defined only by the people who work in that category. So the cinematographers came up with the nominations, and every AMPAS member - no matter how little clue (s)he has - can vote and decide who will get the statuette.
Screenplay - They'll say "No originality in LoTR" or something and give it to A Beautiful Mind.
Sure it's not original - it's an adapted screenplay. It was one of the most difficult adaptations of a book to movie form ever done and it was handled superbly. It is better than most people who love the book dared to hope.
Stop worrying about the risks of nuclear power and start worrying about the risks of not using nuclear power.
Score -1: Trying too hard and failing utterly
If Holy-wood is such the archvillain (MPAA, CSS, DMCA, Jack Valenti, judge Kaplan, et caetera), how come Slashdot is the first to jump on the people's opium bandwagon?
Even if FOTR misses out there are still two more movies on the way. I wonder how that will effect things? Considering that they were filmed together and were never really meant to be considered separately, it seems almost silly to award them individually. What if FOTR does get best picture (or if it doesn't)? How will that bias the attitudes towards The Two Towers and The Return of the King, when they come out? As it stands now I can predict that the same nominations and wins will be EXPECTED for these films when they come out due to the similarity. Otherwise it will just seem wierd.
Of course this is an exceptional situation - I can't think of any other film sagas that were so tightly integrated in production and story. If I were the academy, this is where I'd start considering some sort of special award for the saga as a whole in '04.
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I'm glad that Memento got nominated for the best screenplay and film editing awards. It was the most thought-provoking film I saw last year. Brilliantly written and executed with a stunning performance from Guy Pearse, it was perhaps also the best film of the year, Lord of the Rings notwithstanding. It certainly has major geek appeal, dealing with identity, memory and personality and the role of time. Its also one of the truly great "puzzle" films. It takes most people several viewing to work out what is really happening. Take a look at this Salon article (with major spoilers, you have been warned) for some insight into the complexity of this film.
I predict Memento will get the Screenplay award and that Lord of the Rings will take best picture.
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You might be a geek if: :)
- Every combination of two, three, or four letters is a meaningful acronym for you
"Yeah, I think we all want FOTR to do well. I feel the same way about ABM, although RH's vision may differ substantially from what SN had in mind. IIRC, GL overcame similar obstacles in TPM... "
PUBLIC SPLIT ON WHETHER BUSH IS A DIVIDER -CNN scrolling banner, 10/15/2004
Both are valid.
Oscars.org is the official Academy site.
Oscar.com is the official ABC/Academy site.
If you'd bothered to do a whois, you'd see that both are registered to the Academy.
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Explain to me how the FIRST posting of a link to the OFFICIAL listing of the results is redundant. Too many spare mod points floating around?
Moron.
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One example is Russel Crowe, that didn't win for the Insider, but did win the following year for the Gladiator. I am not saying that he didn't deserve to win, but his previous nomination sure didn't hurt.
1) the Royal Tenenbaums
2) FotR
3) A Beautiful Mind
not a crappy year for movies, even discounting everything else that happens in the world.
:)
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IANAA, but both my parents were. I did, however, work in a mental hospital.
It's absolutely true that it is extremely difficult to play a mentally ill person. However, it does not therefore follow that actors who do a bad job of it automatically deserve awards. Writing an operating system is hard, too, but that doesn't mean XP is good.
The only reasonably accurate portrayal of the behavior of psychotics I have ever seen on film was Ophelia in Kenneth Branaugh's Hamlet. The character in Pi didn't act like a psychotic, but the film did evoke a reasonable image of mania.
Patch Adams was probably the worst offender in this regard. Absolutely none of the characters were even remotely right, with the possible exception of the catatonic guy in the wheelchair. Crazy People did get the concept of schizophrenic insight (which is real and very common), but that was in the writing, not the acting.
I run that site. You won't be slashdotting it any time soon.
I was sad to see that anime was shut out of the nominations, even in the "Best Animated Feature" category. I think "Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust" was the only film eligible, but I think it was clearly better than "Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius" (one of the three films nominated in that category). However, I think the best animated films of the year weren't even declared eligible: "Jin Roh" and "Metropolis". I guess there's always next year...
"Now gluttony and exploitation serves eight!" - TV's Frank
Well, I haven't seen the other two, but I think in general, 2001 sucked in terms of movies.
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HTH. HAND.
Don't people get sick of every article ending with 'to Rule Them All'? I mean, 1st time it might be cool, the 2nd time may be
funny, but many months on and a dozen articles later...
Are we all a bunch of juveniles with no originality?
Also What's eating Gilbert Grape -- Leonardo DiCaprio nominated for best supporting actor.
Quis metamoderunt ipses metamoderatores?
Ronald Reagan played a villain or at least a cad in Dark victory. Probably didn't play it well enough or was overlooked next to Bette Davis and Humphrey Bogart.
Quis metamoderunt ipses metamoderatores?
And of course no nomination for best leading actress either, as this film has no leading actress.
Quis metamoderunt ipses metamoderatores?
As the Oscars are generally determined by other than aesthetic criteria (read: who fucked whom, who made piles of filthy lucre), it's not surprising LOTR gets a stack of nominations as tall as an Ent. But let's not get carried away here. The movie, at best, is a CGI romp with some nice older British actors thrown in to keep the thing respectable. It's OK, even good, hardly great.
For those of you suffering from John Travolta withdrawal after reading that article, check out this year's Razzies Nominations list. Hungry for awards that Keanu Reeves, Tom Green AND Charlton Heston can compete for? Check it out!
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What started me thinking about that: A few years ago I heard an interview and the subject spoke about a specific role that Reagan had turned down near the end of his film career - in that role he would have played some sort of heavy (for the time) bad guy - a communist or a fascist spy or something. I can't remember what the role or film were though.
It was speculated that if he had taken it his public image would never have recovered sufficiently for him to make it to the white house... but the speaker could be wrong - it survived Bonzo.
"Luke Skywalker was a terrorist"
That's one of the most low-key, insightful commentaries on current events I've seen.
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Disclaimer: IAAA (I am an American) and I love my country as such, and LOTR was my favorite movie of the year.
But if Luke Skywalker was a terrorist, then you could argue the same about America's founding fathers. (Revolutionary War, anyone?) And for that matter, the FOTR's attempts to end Sauron's rule should be regarded as terrorism as well.
Oxford's English Dictionary defines a terrorist as "A member of a clandestine or expatriate organization aiming to coerce an established government by acts of violence against it or its subjects."
But that's not quite what true. Luke Skywalker, the Americans, and the Fellowship did not want to coerce anyone's rule, they wanted to destroy it and replace it.
Oxford defines a revolution as "a complete overthrow of the established government in any country or state by those who were previously subject to it; a forcible substitution of a new ruler or form of government."
Luke Skywalker wasn't a terrorist. He was a revolutionary.
Reality Master 101, Congratulations. You have posted to Slashdot 1700 times. If you had created your account the day Slashdot opened (you didn't) and posted one comment every single day of your life since then, you wouldn't even be close to 1700 posts. Truly, you've been a busy boy. If you spent five minutes apiece writing whatever it is you write, that would mean you've spent over 140 hours composing Slashdot comments. I'll assume you're a young man, and offer you a question:
When you're lying in your deathbed, dying of cancer, are you going to look back on those 140 man-hours of staring into a computer monitor shooting off your mouth like a complete asshole as time well spent?
That's some Reality I'd actually be interested in.
Thank You.
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showbiz sucks, Shrek sucks, Russell Crowe sucks, just about everything about the entertainment industry SUCKS, SUCKS, SUCKS!!!!! The Oscars are nothing more than a popularity contest to begin with, and the only purpose of showing the Oscars on television, and all awards shows in general, is so the industry can tell the rest of the world what they SHOULD be watching, not to mention showering the viewing audience in the glory that is the celebrity snob elite.
Ah forget it, no one's going to read this damn message anyway.
Actually, he's right. Gandalf the Grey never again appears in The Lord of the Rings after his fall into darkness. He is dead.
I hereby crown you "King of the Losers".
Who is this Oscar guy, anyway?
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Has to compete against Star Wars II and Rings II.
That movie was a right-wing piece of trash.
If you like silly time montages, watch Zelig.
Wow. So Amelie, a foreign movie (not bad at all, BTW, saw it tonight myself and I think it deserves it's place on the IMDB's 'best movies ever' list), is nominated a fair number of times, and not just as best foreign movie. I never realized the Oscars nominated the best 'whatever' worldwide. And yet, a huge majority of nominated movies are American. Hmm. :)
(Oh wait, what did the 'A' in MPAA stand for already...)
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