Maybe the poster's been doing too much regexp work and tried to anchor at the beginning of the line. Or maybe capital 6 just doesn't render properly in your browser...
Yeah, I mean, for years I've wondered if there was a way to make apps that run locally but can get data remotely, are deliverd over the web with updates being instantly available, and can take up little space.
Yes, I've written apps using AJAX before that was the buzzword (I called it using DHTML, CSS, JavaScript, and XML) and with Java Webstart - and the webstart apps are better in almost every way. Easier to test, easier to make look like local apps, faster, etc. Stick some XML-RPC or SOAP in there and you've even got faster access to remote data. But I guess AJAX is the current buzzword of choice, and people think it's a new thing. Sigh. I guess that some slow java apps back in 1997 runing on a 486 ruined anyones hopes of ever using Java for something significant...
Since we can make regional assesments based on one person's limited experience, this post has confirmed that all people from the East coast are conceited assholes.
I know it's a separate package, and I'm pretty sure that was done because it was a separate package in previous releases when perl 5.6 was used - and Time::HiRes wasn't in the core. Since it's in the core now, though, it *should* be installed whenever perl is installed (I don't see RH making IO::Handle, Storable, and POSIX separate packages) and the perl package should have the Time::HiRes provide. It's not a matter of it being difficult to rectify their error - it's a matter of there being an error in the first place.
WTF are you talking about? First of all, a properly set up mail server doesn't break in ways that someone totally unfamiliar with the system and network layout can waltz in and repair "ASAP" - esp. if no one else knows anything about how it's set up. Second, any company spending the money for RHEL is probably also going to be large enough to spend the money on more than one IT person - if I'm on vacation, Chris can fix it. Third, any systems that are so important that they simply must be up 24x7 with no exceptions are *also* set up with some redundency in mind.
On top of all that, if the vendor's seeing the same problems 10 times in the last month, maybe they should get off their dead asses and fix the problem. *That* is what they're paid for - not so they can take the place of the company IT department when all of the IT guys are on vacation.
So, I find your line of thinking increasingly common, and increasingly irritating. An IT person isn't just a plug-n-play proposition, where experience and skills are irrelevent, and where any random person with "some linux skillz" can just pop in, figure out what the problem is and where the problem is (does *your* manager know how to get a vendor access to the mail server?), and repair it. I dunno, it sounds like you've never been a sysadmin and you have a particular disdain for an IT person wherever you work - probably because something you didn't understand took longer than you mistakenly thought it should to get done.
I stand behind my claim. Manager-types choose RHEL for the same reason they choose Win32 - either because they feel like they can't live without an app that runs on windows/RHEL or because they think that paying a lot of money magically makes things higher quality. I'd like to hear from *one* person who's purchased RHEL because they actually need the support *and* has used it. Until then, I'm saying that you don't know what you're talking about in terms of operating system decisions.
No, it wasn't free to upgrade. I seem to recall there being some trivial discount, but it was still more than it cost to download the month-old SuSE, migrate things, and then pay for the next upgrade to SuSE. The discount also didn't cover the cost we paid for all of our systems, nor did it give us access to the distro we were using for a reason (I didn't *want* RHEL).
And yeah, lots of people still pay for RedHat. This is mostly because lots of management-types want "someone to blame". Heck, the place I now work for uses RHEL all over the place for legacy reasons, but it's still a piece of crap. Just today I tried to write a perl script which needed to time events with sub-second accuracy. Perl 5.8 is installed, but apparently Time::HiRes is not - even though Time::HiRes is part of the core 5.8 distribution and it should be safe to assume that it's present if perl 5.8 is. But no, RedHat assed that up. Call that my reason of the day, though, not the single reason to call RHEL crap.
I like the Polish too, but I'm not sure what they have to do with KDE in SuSE. Maybe if you were telling a lightbulb replacing joke it would be relevent that you like the Polish, but not here.
I'm gonna have to drive by the Weinerschnizel on the way home now, and get a Polish sandwich. Or maybe just some mini corn dogs. Yeah, I think I'll get mini corn dogs. I like the corn dogs *and* the Polish.
Except that Novell didn't say "Oh, by the way - you people who paid for support for your product? Screw you, your year of support ends in April even if you just paid for a year a couple of months earlier. Feel free to buy our overpriced piece of crap version if you want continued updates." RedHat did.
BTW, Ubuntu's based on Debian, which was and remains community-developed. Shuttleworth just did it right (so far)...
Are there still IT people out there who don't have access to Laptops? Put your workstation on a cart, and have room for your toolbox on the shelf below, then.:)
100% of people think you pulled that '90%' out of your ass. I have a private office, and have had one at almost all of my prior IT jobs. You must just work for a crappy company.
Think maybe the reaming 'n flogging metaphor was carried a tad too far? What actually happened, perhaps he got spoken to by a superior who may have been frowning at the time?
Stop buying things from manufacturers who refuse to develop good drivers / release specs so someone else will? How long do peripherals with crappy Windows drivers stay around? Do you buy stuff for Win32 that has terrible or non-existant drivers?
I had to wait through two revisions of OS X for drivers to finally appear for the first DVD burner I bought (a Pioneer). By then, there were faster units available. I bought one, and it didn't work with Tiger. Argh. Same goes for lots of stuff - if Os X supports it, it works fine. Otherwise, good luck finding a driver. Wait, doesn't OS X provide a stable driver ABI? I thought that meant that everyone and their brother would be absolutely tripping over themselves to write drivers!
Instinctively, I want to agree with you. I really do. But then those making more than me see my comment and feel the same way *I* feel when someone living on the street comments about "all the money" I make. Well, maybe - something like that. I'd like to see a flat tax as much as the next guy, but there have to be loopholes explicitly delimiting any exceptions - and those loopholes are right there for the wealthiest to exploit - which is probably a big reason that the uberrich don't pay ubertaxes. It'd be difficult to ammass a huge fortune without knowing how to game the system, IMHO. Quite honestly, I don't see the problem with just bumping up the minimum income one needs to make to be subjected to taxes. It'd cost almost nothing and would help out a big chunk of the poor. Unfortunately, those people also don't get out and vote, and they dont' have much to make contributions with - so the elected officials only care in as much as they have to put on a little bit of a show for the "rest" of the population.
Oh, and for the record, those tax cuts are a crock of shit. I'm not big on slamming Bush for everything that goes wrong here and abroad - but that's just stupid. I know I'm personally gonna have to repay a chunk of that loan the gov't took out on the future (they sure didn't cut spending as much as income), and it pisses me off. But I guess "Horay for a few hundred dollars that was mine to begin with".:(
I should note that I didn't recognize you as the pizza guy until I looked at a couple of back posts, and recognized a response after reading it, BTW. It's purely coincidental that I happened to not believe the IAAL claim.
Wait, so the top 50% already shoulder 96% of the country's tax burden, and you think they should pay even more just because they have more than, presumably, you? What a load of jealous / selfish crap. I'm in that upper 50% myself, mostly because I've got a piece of crap contracting job where I get no benefits, but instead get paid enough to make a decent single-income family living and pay for all of my "benefits" (like health insurance, etc) out-of-pocket. Sure, the government puts me in the top 50% of wage earners, and I'm not living in the poor house, but I can guarantee you that it's not a life of luxery and servants, where there's money to burn. After bills are paid and gas 'n groceries are bought, I've got like $30. Party time! I'm sure that the poor of this country are thinking that it'd be great to have an extra $75 per month and to drive my three year old Grand Am (purchased used this year, not yet paid for) which gets parked outside of my 800 square foot house (if you include the basement as living area) which I rent right next door to a gas station, but you can kiss my ass if you think that the "rich folks" like me oughtta pay even more damned taxes to "pull my weight" based exclusively on my gross income level. Yeah, this is the life, driving a $15K used car and living in a rental house. Who could ask for anything more?
The government already takes from me more than a minimum wage worker would earn in a year - and you know what? I don't think the government is working at a quality level where they *deserve* that wage. The solution isn't to take even more from me, it's to get our asinine government to either take care of the people that it's crippling with excessive taxation (people that make <$20-$25K/year, IMHO) or to quit crippling those people because their contribution is so small as to be insignificant anyway. What, the government can't find a way to cut spending by the 1-2% they'd miss by giving the poor a tax cut?
Good, so I'm *not* the only one who hates seeing that extra "i" in there just because some pedantic ass / Frenchman wants to make sure that we know that MB when used in terms of bits/bytes means 2^20 and not 10^6 - despite decades of everyone somehow getting by just fine before that stupid new term which reduces readabiilty and doesn't convey any new information. "Oh, but hard drives..." Shut up - hard drive capacity is less than advertised either way once there's a filesystem on there, so it doesn't make a difference. The advertised size is, at best, an estimation of what you'll get out of it.
Windows 3.1 had drag and drop in the GUI, though not all applications supported it. Mac OS did too, prior to 7.x Regardless, the post asked why Linux desktops didn't copy OS X, which is why I even mentioned it...:)
Anyway, I was just messing around on an XP workstation, and found that it's not letting me create text clipping files anymore. I know I could do that in '98, and will have to try it on a 2K workstation. If you copy some text, go to a folder (including the desktop) and right-click to select paste (or ctrl-v), a file gets created containing the clipboard contents. Similar to McBehavior.
As far as saving images, I personally don't like the Mac way of navigating folders while dragging - the delay between hovering and a folder popping open is just never right, and the time between when the folder icon blinks like it's gonna open and when it actually opens is always too short. I don't know how many times I've dropped into a freshly-opened folder which opened on top of the window I *wanted* to drop into because I hovered over a folder too long while I made the decision. OS X is better about that, esp. when using the view whose name eludes me now, but involves panes in a single window expanding out to the right as folder navigation depth increases, but it still irritates me often enough. Windows, of course, is even less useful - but it doesn't get your hopes up, either.:)
It's as quick or quicker, and more precise, to right-click on the image (ctrl-click), select "save-as", and navigate to the target in the resulting dialog. That also affords the opportunity to rename the file - and the ability to look at another program or something (where did that text file say to save this again?) before doing the actual save. Using "save as" also makes the behavior more clear in the case of an image which is a link to another web page - do you want to save the image, the link, or the linked page's contents?
Those idiots wasting memory on Emacs have finally decided that they're wrong, and have stopped hassling the enlightened vi crowd, for the most part. Or, they're waiting for their computer to stop swapping emacs out so they can load a browser module into their OS, err, editor and post their foolish viewpoints.:)
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Maybe the poster's been doing too much regexp work and tried to anchor at the beginning of the line. Or maybe capital 6 just doesn't render properly in your browser...
Yeah, I mean, for years I've wondered if there was a way to make apps that run locally but can get data remotely, are deliverd over the web with updates being instantly available, and can take up little space.
Yes, I've written apps using AJAX before that was the buzzword (I called it using DHTML, CSS, JavaScript, and XML) and with Java Webstart - and the webstart apps are better in almost every way. Easier to test, easier to make look like local apps, faster, etc. Stick some XML-RPC or SOAP in there and you've even got faster access to remote data. But I guess AJAX is the current buzzword of choice, and people think it's a new thing. Sigh. I guess that some slow java apps back in 1997 runing on a 486 ruined anyones hopes of ever using Java for something significant...
Since we can make regional assesments based on one person's limited experience, this post has confirmed that all people from the East coast are conceited assholes.
I know it's a separate package, and I'm pretty sure that was done because it was a separate package in previous releases when perl 5.6 was used - and Time::HiRes wasn't in the core. Since it's in the core now, though, it *should* be installed whenever perl is installed (I don't see RH making IO::Handle, Storable, and POSIX separate packages) and the perl package should have the Time::HiRes provide. It's not a matter of it being difficult to rectify their error - it's a matter of there being an error in the first place.
:)
Sorry, I'm particularly grumpy tonight.
WTF are you talking about? First of all, a properly set up mail server doesn't break in ways that someone totally unfamiliar with the system and network layout can waltz in and repair "ASAP" - esp. if no one else knows anything about how it's set up. Second, any company spending the money for RHEL is probably also going to be large enough to spend the money on more than one IT person - if I'm on vacation, Chris can fix it. Third, any systems that are so important that they simply must be up 24x7 with no exceptions are *also* set up with some redundency in mind.
On top of all that, if the vendor's seeing the same problems 10 times in the last month, maybe they should get off their dead asses and fix the problem. *That* is what they're paid for - not so they can take the place of the company IT department when all of the IT guys are on vacation.
So, I find your line of thinking increasingly common, and increasingly irritating. An IT person isn't just a plug-n-play proposition, where experience and skills are irrelevent, and where any random person with "some linux skillz" can just pop in, figure out what the problem is and where the problem is (does *your* manager know how to get a vendor access to the mail server?), and repair it. I dunno, it sounds like you've never been a sysadmin and you have a particular disdain for an IT person wherever you work - probably because something you didn't understand took longer than you mistakenly thought it should to get done.
I stand behind my claim. Manager-types choose RHEL for the same reason they choose Win32 - either because they feel like they can't live without an app that runs on windows/RHEL or because they think that paying a lot of money magically makes things higher quality. I'd like to hear from *one* person who's purchased RHEL because they actually need the support *and* has used it. Until then, I'm saying that you don't know what you're talking about in terms of operating system decisions.
No, it wasn't free to upgrade. I seem to recall there being some trivial discount, but it was still more than it cost to download the month-old SuSE, migrate things, and then pay for the next upgrade to SuSE. The discount also didn't cover the cost we paid for all of our systems, nor did it give us access to the distro we were using for a reason (I didn't *want* RHEL).
And yeah, lots of people still pay for RedHat. This is mostly because lots of management-types want "someone to blame". Heck, the place I now work for uses RHEL all over the place for legacy reasons, but it's still a piece of crap. Just today I tried to write a perl script which needed to time events with sub-second accuracy. Perl 5.8 is installed, but apparently Time::HiRes is not - even though Time::HiRes is part of the core 5.8 distribution and it should be safe to assume that it's present if perl 5.8 is. But no, RedHat assed that up. Call that my reason of the day, though, not the single reason to call RHEL crap.
I like the Polish too, but I'm not sure what they have to do with KDE in SuSE. Maybe if you were telling a lightbulb replacing joke it would be relevent that you like the Polish, but not here.
I'm gonna have to drive by the Weinerschnizel on the way home now, and get a Polish sandwich. Or maybe just some mini corn dogs. Yeah, I think I'll get mini corn dogs. I like the corn dogs *and* the Polish.
Except that Novell didn't say "Oh, by the way - you people who paid for support for your product? Screw you, your year of support ends in April even if you just paid for a year a couple of months earlier. Feel free to buy our overpriced piece of crap version if you want continued updates." RedHat did.
BTW, Ubuntu's based on Debian, which was and remains community-developed. Shuttleworth just did it right (so far)...
It's probably just a poorly-translated phrase which means something else in German than in literally-translated English.
Some of the worst programmers I've ever met *were* CS students, though. :)
Are there still IT people out there who don't have access to Laptops? Put your workstation on a cart, and have room for your toolbox on the shelf below, then. :)
100% of people think you pulled that '90%' out of your ass. I have a private office, and have had one at almost all of my prior IT jobs. You must just work for a crappy company.
Think maybe the reaming 'n flogging metaphor was carried a tad too far? What actually happened, perhaps he got spoken to by a superior who may have been frowning at the time?
Stop buying things from manufacturers who refuse to develop good drivers / release specs so someone else will? How long do peripherals with crappy Windows drivers stay around? Do you buy stuff for Win32 that has terrible or non-existant drivers?
I had to wait through two revisions of OS X for drivers to finally appear for the first DVD burner I bought (a Pioneer). By then, there were faster units available. I bought one, and it didn't work with Tiger. Argh. Same goes for lots of stuff - if Os X supports it, it works fine. Otherwise, good luck finding a driver. Wait, doesn't OS X provide a stable driver ABI? I thought that meant that everyone and their brother would be absolutely tripping over themselves to write drivers!
And more pirates!
Instinctively, I want to agree with you. I really do. But then those making more than me see my comment and feel the same way *I* feel when someone living on the street comments about "all the money" I make. Well, maybe - something like that. I'd like to see a flat tax as much as the next guy, but there have to be loopholes explicitly delimiting any exceptions - and those loopholes are right there for the wealthiest to exploit - which is probably a big reason that the uberrich don't pay ubertaxes. It'd be difficult to ammass a huge fortune without knowing how to game the system, IMHO. Quite honestly, I don't see the problem with just bumping up the minimum income one needs to make to be subjected to taxes. It'd cost almost nothing and would help out a big chunk of the poor. Unfortunately, those people also don't get out and vote, and they dont' have much to make contributions with - so the elected officials only care in as much as they have to put on a little bit of a show for the "rest" of the population.
:(
Oh, and for the record, those tax cuts are a crock of shit. I'm not big on slamming Bush for everything that goes wrong here and abroad - but that's just stupid. I know I'm personally gonna have to repay a chunk of that loan the gov't took out on the future (they sure didn't cut spending as much as income), and it pisses me off. But I guess "Horay for a few hundred dollars that was mine to begin with".
Trust me, IAAL
And to think, just a couple of months ago you were working in the computer lab at a university and Arguing with me about how easy it is to get around Chicago - now you're a lawyer! Congratulations on the promotion.
I should note that I didn't recognize you as the pizza guy until I looked at a couple of back posts, and recognized a response after reading it, BTW. It's purely coincidental that I happened to not believe the IAAL claim.
They had a nifty array of subs, too, but none made out of a big fan. They clearly needed a big fan.
And I still think that expression is amusing in a juvenile way.
Wait, so the top 50% already shoulder 96% of the country's tax burden, and you think they should pay even more just because they have more than, presumably, you? What a load of jealous / selfish crap. I'm in that upper 50% myself, mostly because I've got a piece of crap contracting job where I get no benefits, but instead get paid enough to make a decent single-income family living and pay for all of my "benefits" (like health insurance, etc) out-of-pocket. Sure, the government puts me in the top 50% of wage earners, and I'm not living in the poor house, but I can guarantee you that it's not a life of luxery and servants, where there's money to burn. After bills are paid and gas 'n groceries are bought, I've got like $30. Party time! I'm sure that the poor of this country are thinking that it'd be great to have an extra $75 per month and to drive my three year old Grand Am (purchased used this year, not yet paid for) which gets parked outside of my 800 square foot house (if you include the basement as living area) which I rent right next door to a gas station, but you can kiss my ass if you think that the "rich folks" like me oughtta pay even more damned taxes to "pull my weight" based exclusively on my gross income level. Yeah, this is the life, driving a $15K used car and living in a rental house. Who could ask for anything more?
The government already takes from me more than a minimum wage worker would earn in a year - and you know what? I don't think the government is working at a quality level where they *deserve* that wage. The solution isn't to take even more from me, it's to get our asinine government to either take care of the people that it's crippling with excessive taxation (people that make <$20-$25K/year, IMHO) or to quit crippling those people because their contribution is so small as to be insignificant anyway. What, the government can't find a way to cut spending by the 1-2% they'd miss by giving the poor a tax cut?
Good, so I'm *not* the only one who hates seeing that extra "i" in there just because some pedantic ass / Frenchman wants to make sure that we know that MB when used in terms of bits/bytes means 2^20 and not 10^6 - despite decades of everyone somehow getting by just fine before that stupid new term which reduces readabiilty and doesn't convey any new information. "Oh, but hard drives..." Shut up - hard drive capacity is less than advertised either way once there's a filesystem on there, so it doesn't make a difference. The advertised size is, at best, an estimation of what you'll get out of it.
:)
There, I feel much better now.
Windows 3.1 had drag and drop in the GUI, though not all applications supported it. Mac OS did too, prior to 7.x Regardless, the post asked why Linux desktops didn't copy OS X, which is why I even mentioned it... :)
:)
Anyway, I was just messing around on an XP workstation, and found that it's not letting me create text clipping files anymore. I know I could do that in '98, and will have to try it on a 2K workstation. If you copy some text, go to a folder (including the desktop) and right-click to select paste (or ctrl-v), a file gets created containing the clipboard contents. Similar to McBehavior.
As far as saving images, I personally don't like the Mac way of navigating folders while dragging - the delay between hovering and a folder popping open is just never right, and the time between when the folder icon blinks like it's gonna open and when it actually opens is always too short. I don't know how many times I've dropped into a freshly-opened folder which opened on top of the window I *wanted* to drop into because I hovered over a folder too long while I made the decision. OS X is better about that, esp. when using the view whose name eludes me now, but involves panes in a single window expanding out to the right as folder navigation depth increases, but it still irritates me often enough. Windows, of course, is even less useful - but it doesn't get your hopes up, either.
It's as quick or quicker, and more precise, to right-click on the image (ctrl-click), select "save-as", and navigate to the target in the resulting dialog. That also affords the opportunity to rename the file - and the ability to look at another program or something (where did that text file say to save this again?) before doing the actual save. Using "save as" also makes the behavior more clear in the case of an image which is a link to another web page - do you want to save the image, the link, or the linked page's contents?
I'd be happy with just a Hummer.
Those idiots wasting memory on Emacs have finally decided that they're wrong, and have stopped hassling the enlightened vi crowd, for the most part. Or, they're waiting for their computer to stop swapping emacs out so they can load a browser module into their OS, err, editor and post their foolish viewpoints. :)